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lostaussie

11-10-2007, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by Go Blue
If Kansas wins tonight I expect them to leap Oregon to #2 won't happen until at least the big 12 championship game, assuming lsu and oregon state don't lose. the preseason schedule makes the computers hate kansas but they will pick up if they win out. if they are undefeated and don't go to the NCG there will be a huge outcry. might be the best thing that could happen for a playoff.

DDBooger

11-10-2007, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by lostaussie
won't happen until at least the big 12 championship game, assuming lsu and oregon state don't lose. the preseason schedule makes the computers hate kansas but they will pick up if they win out. if they are undefeated and don't go to the NCG there will be a huge outcry. might be the best thing that could happen for a playoff. anyone else think LSU is gonna lose 1
more game? I think so

3afan

11-10-2007, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by Go Blue
If Kansas wins tonight I expect them to leap Oregon to #2

no they wont

Gsquared

11-10-2007, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by DDBooger
anyone else think LSU is gonna lose 1
more game? I think so Cant tell, its the SEC and there is soooo much parity in that confrence. I think its very possible they lose in the SEC Champ game. I hate Conf. Champ Games.

Boosty_Hondo

11-10-2007, 08:22 PM

the way the BCS is going this year they might as well make Texas A&M number 1

lostaussie

11-10-2007, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by Boosty_Hondo
the way the BCS is going this year they might as well make Texas A&M number 1 below the belt:(

DDBooger

11-10-2007, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Gsquared
Cant tell, its the SEC and there is soooo much parity in that confrence. I think its very possible they lose in the SEC Champ game. I hate Conf. Champ Games. they r having trouble with La Tech right now

SNYDER325TIGERS

11-10-2007, 09:29 PM

LSU baby

SNYDER325TIGERS

11-10-2007, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by kepdawg
Unless LSU or Oregon lose Kansas should be 3

I don't see why they would jump either if both win

........

Boosty_Hondo

11-11-2007, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by lostaussie
below the belt:(

lol well u know its the truth haha

Old Tiger

11-11-2007, 09:30 AM

Kansas will be in the top 2.

gobbler grad

11-11-2007, 10:39 AM

#1---Oregon
#2---LSU
#3---Kansas

HM33

11-11-2007, 12:07 PM

I would have to say the Oregon is #1 and I'm going out on a limb here BUTTT...

#1 Oregon
#2 Kansas
#3 ???? LSU will lose again

I'm hoping Mizzou moves up. I like em' and their uniforms are nice :)

District303aPastPlayer

11-11-2007, 12:16 PM

LSU should not be ranked higher than Oregon or an udefeated Kansas, IMO.

ASUFrisbeeStud

11-11-2007, 02:14 PM

Here is the AP Top 25

1. LSU (40) 9-1 1,590
2. Oregon (22) 8-1 1,574
3. Oklahoma (1) 9-1 1,471
4. Kansas (1) 10-0 1,439
5. West Virginia (1) 8-1 1,340
6. Missouri 9-1 1,336
7. Ohio State 10-1 1,184
8. Georgia 8-2 1,130
9. Arizona State 9-1 1,122
10. Virginia Tech 8-2 1,013
11. USC 8-2 924
12. Texas 9-2 859
13. Hawaii 9-0 827
14. Florida 7-3 814
15. Clemson 8-2 613
16. Virginia 9-2 539
17. Boise State 9-1 533
18. Boston College 8-2 527
19. Tennessee 7-3 488
20. Illinois 8-3 390
21. Cincinnati 8-2 305
22. Kentucky 7-3 283
23. Michigan 8-3 237
24. Wisconsin 8-3 182
25. Connecticut 8-2 127
Others Receiving Votes
Penn State 98, Auburn 72, Brigham Young 56, SOUTHFLORIDA 21, California 18, Mississippi State 6, Arkansas 4, AIRFORCE 2, Alabama 1.
Dropped From Rankings
Auburn 18, Alabama 21, California 24.

DDBooger

11-11-2007, 02:23 PM

so, can hawaii be this years boise st?

gobbler grad

11-11-2007, 04:02 PM

somebody likes Oklahoma more than Kansas...:thinking:

ASUFrisbeeStud

11-11-2007, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by gobbler grad
somebody likes Oklahoma more than Kansas...:thinking:

Yeah we'll see who is better in a few weeks.

State_In_08

11-11-2007, 05:28 PM

No way should Oklahoma jump Kansas for #3.

rockdale80

11-11-2007, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by State_In_08
No way should Oklahoma jump Kansas for #3.

Agreed. And who had USF played when they were #2? So why after a 10-0 start can a team not get any love. I like Kansas. They play well as a TEAM, and that makes them fun to watch. That and the fact that no one expected this. After the way this year has played out so far, why not give them a little respect...

Mustangpride09

11-11-2007, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by rockdale80
Agreed. And who had USF played when they were #2

Oh I don't know maybe West Virginia and Auburn?

Old Tiger

11-11-2007, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by DDBooger
so, can hawaii be this years boise st? No cause Boise St. will go Boise St. on em when they play.

rockdale80

11-11-2007, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by Mustangpride09
Oh I don't know maybe West Virginia and Auburn?

I am not convinced WV is a quality team, and neither is Auburn this year.

Mustangpride09

11-11-2007, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by rockdale80
I am not convinced WV is a quality team, and neither is Auburn this year.

Well you don't make the polls either.

Old Tiger

11-11-2007, 08:29 PM

OU jumped Kansas because Kansas isn't "sexy" enough for the NC and that in the end is what they are setting OU up for. Best way for Kansas to get in is to win.

Gobbla2001

11-11-2007, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by Mustangpride09
Well you don't make the polls either.

uhhh yes he does... :rolleyes:

rockdale80

11-11-2007, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Mustangpride09
Well you don't make the polls either.

WV is like Cal a few years ago.....they havent played anyone, and when they do, it will get ugly. Just my opinion. And no I dont make the polls, but they are nothing more than someone else's opinion....

Gobbla2001

11-11-2007, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by rockdale80
And no I dont make the polls,

YES YOU DO :mad:

rockdale80

11-11-2007, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
YES YOU DO :mad:

HAHAHA....well.

OK I DO MAKE THE POLLS!

Gobbla2001

11-11-2007, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by rockdale80
HAHAHA....well.

OK I DO MAKE THE POLLS!

'bout time you told the truth down there...

Mustangpride09

11-11-2007, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by rockdale80
WV is like Cal a few years ago.....they havent played anyone, and when they do, it will get ugly. Just my opinion. And no I dont make the polls, but they are nothing more than someone else's opinion....

Well you asked why they were #2 at one point, and the answer was pretty simple, they beat Auburn and then Auburn went on to beat Florida thus helping they're cause. Then they beat WV when they were a top 5 team, and on top of that they were undefeated. That is why they were #2.

rockdale80

11-11-2007, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by Mustangpride09
Well you asked why they were #2 at one point, and the answer was pretty simple, they beat Auburn and then Auburn went on to beat Florida thus helping they're cause. Then they beat WV when they were a top 5 team, and on top of that they were undefeated. That is why they were #2.

WV was the only quality win they had, and I dont think it was that quality. After Week 1 should App. State been ranked in the top 5? I mean they beat a top 5 team.

Old Tiger

11-11-2007, 08:40 PM

Mustangpride09

11-11-2007, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by rockdale80
WV was the only quality win they had, and I dont think it was that quality. After Week 1 should App. State been ranked in the top 5? I mean they beat a top 5 team.

Are you serious? They began the season in the top 25, they kept winning, so they kept moving up. Whether you think beating a team that goes on to beat the defending national champs and then beating a top 5 team while remaining undefeated doesnt warrant it doesnt mean it wasn't earned or deserved.

rockdale80

11-11-2007, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by Mustangpride09
Are you serious? They began the season in the top 25, they kept winning, so they kept moving up. Whether you think beating a team that goes on to beat the defending national champs and then beating a top 5 team while remaining undefeated doesnt warrant it doesnt mean it wasn't earned or deserved.

It wasnt, because they werent the SECOND best team in the country. That was proven in the several losses they have suffered since. The fact that WV lost to them and is still in the top 10 baffles me. Especially seeing their record since they were ranked.

Mustangpride09

11-11-2007, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by rockdale80
It wasnt, because they werent the SECOND best team in the country. That was proven in the several losses they have suffered since. The fact that WV lost to them and is still in the top 10 baffles me. Especially seeing their record since they were ranked.

So? Noone can predict the future or predict who is going to win every week. At the end of last year, they finished strong and made enough noise to be the preseason #21. They went undefeated took out Auburn who went on to defeat Florida, they they knocked off WV. They beat two very high ranked teams. That is why they were #2, their current record doesn't matter. All that mattered was the record they had when they were #2. Now they certainly aren't deserving of that now, but at the time they were.

rockdale80

11-11-2007, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by Mustangpride09
So? Noone can predict the future or predict who is going to win every week. At the end of last year, they finished strong and made enough noise to be the preseason #21. They went undefeated took out Auburn who went on to defeat Florida, they they knocked off WV. They beat two very high ranked teams. That is why they were #2, their current record doesn't matter. All that mattered was the record they had when they were #2. Now they certainly aren't deserving of that now, but at the time they were.

read below. I will even make it in all caps so maybe you can understand.

THEY DIDNT DESERVE IT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT/WERE NOT THE SECOND BEST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY.

This has been proven over and over since they were ranked. The #2 ranking (by my calculation) is for the SECOND best team in the country which USF clearly is/was not.

Mustangpride09

11-11-2007, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by rockdale80
read below. I will even make it in all caps so maybe you can understand.

THEY DIDNT DESERVE IT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT/WERE NOT THE SECOND BEST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY.

This has been proven over and over since they were ranked. The #2 ranking (by my calculation) is for the SECOND best team in the country which USF clearly is/was not.

And once again, it is all logical. I will put the reasons in numeric form.

1. They were undefeated when not many highly ranked unbeatens remained.
2. They beat a team that went on to knock of the #6 ranked(perhaps 7?) national champs.
3. They beat the #5 team in the country.

When you beat highly ranked teams, you move up in polls. It isn't very hard to comprehend. Is USC the #2 team in the country? NO. What about BC or Cal? At the time they all had a very deserving resume. Polls aren't an exact science.

Gobbla2001

11-11-2007, 09:05 PM

I really don't have a problem with the poll itself... they missed a few, got most of it right, BUT I have a problem with the poll decided the national championship game... that is all, goodnight...

rockdale80

11-11-2007, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by Mustangpride09
And once again, it is all logical. I will put the reasons in numeric form.

1. They were undefeated when not many highly ranked unbeatens remained.
2. They beat a team that went on to knock of the #6 ranked(perhaps 7?) national champs.
3. They beat the #5 team in the country.

When you beat highly ranked teams, you move up in polls. It isn't very hard to comprehend. Is USC the #2 team in the country? NO. What about BC or Cal? At the time they all had a very deserving resume. Polls aren't an exact science.

Finally some logic. I think you finally got the point. They are opinions made by people that are not always accurate...and at the end of the day they are still opinions. I am so proud you finally caught on. Keep up the good work. :clap: :clap:

Mustangpride09

11-11-2007, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by rockdale80
Finally some logic. I think you finally got the point. They are opinions made by people that are not always accurate...and at the end of the day they are still opinions. I am so proud you finally caught on. Keep up the good work. :clap: :clap:

You still aren't making any sense. The reason all those teams were #2 was because of the teams they beat and they're preseason positioning. Just because you are #1, #2, #3, etc. in the nation doesnt make you the #1, #2, #3 team in the nation. You said, you didn't understand how USF ever got the #2 spot in the nation because they didn't play anyone. I then explained 2 or 3 times why they got that high and who they played. If you still can't understand why, you might want to consider furthering your education.

Gobbla2001

11-11-2007, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by Mustangpride09
You still aren't making any sense. The reason all those teams were #2 was because of the teams they beat and they're preseason positioning. Just because you are #1, #2, #3, etc. in the nation doesnt make you the #1, #2, #3 team in the nation. You said, you didn't understand how USF ever got the #2 spot in the nation because they didn't play anyone. I then explained 2 or 3 times why they got that high and who they played. If you still can't understand why, you might want to consider furthering your education.

bull

Hawaii was ranked in the preseason top 25... South Florida was about 12/13 spots back (around number 35)... neither team really beat anyone tough this year yet South Florida got all of the way to #2? while Hawaii wasn't even top 15 yet...

Mustangpride09

11-11-2007, 09:28 PM

I definately remember seeing USF at #21 in at least 1 preseason poll. And the reason Hawaii hasn't moved up is because the only quality team on that joke of a schedule they have is Boise State and they aren't even that great this year. Not to mention that game against San Jose State.

rockdale80

11-11-2007, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by Mustangpride09
Just because you are #1, #2, #3, etc. in the nation doesnt make you the #1, #2, #3 team in the nation.

Its official....you are useless. Just when I thought you grasped logic momentarily, reality set in, and you were rushed back to ignorance. If you are ranked #2 then you are allegedly the SECOND best team in the country....which USF clearly was not. Dont care about Auburn(mediocre)or WV(overrated and will be exposed like USF), because they are not that good. Their is no logical reason for them to have been #2. THEY WERE NOT THE SECOND BEST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY. They arent even #2 in a weak conference. They are fifth.

Gobbla2001

11-11-2007, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by Mustangpride09
I definately remember seeing USF at #21 in at least 1 preseason poll. And the reason Hawaii hasn't moved up is because the only quality team on that joke of a schedule they have is Boise State and they aren't even that great this year. Not to mention that game against San Jose State.

Out of 8 preseason polls I just obvserved, South Florida was ranked three times, 21, 23 and then 24

out of those same polls Hawaii was ranked ahead of them twice, not ranked in the poll that had SF 21...

Hawaii was ranked in 6 of those polls... 12, 18, 19, 19, 23 and 24...

South Florida was unranked in the top 25 of the Coaches, AP and ESPN polls, which are the ones most go by, while Hawaii was ranked in all of them...

Gobbla2001

11-11-2007, 09:41 PM

and don't give me the "south florida played better teams" deal... did they really? THIS YEAR? a year where teams are losing left and right to "lesser" teams? THIS YEAR where Mississippi State is bowl eligible, ALREADY? This year where Kansas is undefeated?

don't give me names, because names don't matter (mich losing to 1 double A)... names are just that, NAMES from seasons past...

SF hasn't played anyone either... they lose to Uconn who loses to Cincy etc...