Officials work to earn their stripes [Archive]

kepdawg

11-07-2007, 01:04 PM

LINK (http://www.hsgametime.com/dfw/sharedcontent/dws/content/topstories/stories/110707dnsporefs.360f450.html)

I thought this was a pretty good article

Would be interested in the officials comments on it

lakers

11-07-2007, 01:19 PM

that was pretty neat. i have always wondered how refs prep for a game.

whtfbplaya

11-07-2007, 01:21 PM

Fairly good outline of the process.

Txbroadcaster

11-07-2007, 01:24 PM

UIL is in some trouble if they dont do something..Younger Offiicals are NOT coming into the system like they used to and their could be a SEVERE shortage soon, already a shortage now, but it could get to an extreme level in the next couple of years

buff4life

11-07-2007, 01:49 PM

that is really good stuff...

almost convinced me to be a referee...

Johnny 5

11-07-2007, 02:46 PM

How do you become a ref?

zebrablue2

11-07-2007, 02:51 PM

great article. that is how it is done. thanks. and we do need more young blood in the ranks. some of you guy's and gal's-- step up. young could be 18-50. if you have some time, join a chapter.

CenTexSports

11-07-2007, 03:26 PM

Biggest problem is that the pay for subvarsity is being cut next year (90% done deal) and some of the current young guys are going to quit. It will also hamper the recruitment on other new officials.

CenTexSports

11-07-2007, 04:12 PM

The only thing the article did not cover is the more diverse areas covered by the none metro chapters. Last week we left town at 1:00 pm for a game and got home at 3:00 am. Total driving was 380+ miles. But we got to see the #2 ranked team in 4A beat a pretty decent team.

Old Tiger

11-07-2007, 04:13 PM

I'm not a fan of the Waco chapter.

buff4life

11-07-2007, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by Go Blue
I'm not a fan of the Waco chapter.

Casey you and me should become referees...

Old Tiger

11-07-2007, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by buff4life
Casey you and me should become referees... I've wanted to. It'd be a good job to have being as we are college kids. What chapter do you want to sign up for or how do we sign up?

buff4life

11-07-2007, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by Go Blue
I've wanted to. It'd be a good job to have being as we are college kids. What chapter do you want to sign up for or how do we sign up?

that would be hilarious, you and me young guys working with these old guys and i would start laughing when a coach starts chewing me out...

i have no clue lol...

eagles_victory

11-07-2007, 04:30 PM

i would consider signing up i know almost all the rules already. I wonder if Nacogdoches has a chapter... probably Lufkin

Old Tiger

11-07-2007, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by buff4life
that would be hilarious, you and me young guys working with these old guys and i would start laughing when a coach starts chewing me out...

i have no clue lol... Yea I couldn't be a side judge I'd get fired for cursing back at the coach. :(

buff4life

11-07-2007, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by Go Blue
Yea I couldn't be a side judge I'd get fired for cursing back at the coach. :(

LOL...is there a central texas chapter, or just big city ones...

whtfbplaya

11-07-2007, 04:42 PM

Old Tiger

11-07-2007, 04:43 PM

I think there is a waco chapter, temple chapter, and austin chapter

buff4life

11-07-2007, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by Go Blue
I think there is a waco chapter, temple chapter, and austin chapter

and a cs chapter...

Old Tiger

11-07-2007, 04:46 PM

eh CS....not so much. Temple Chapter or Austin chapter for me

buff4life

11-07-2007, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by Go Blue
eh CS....not so much. Temple Chapter or Austin chapter for me

Austing chapter would work for me since i live here now lol...

zebrablue2

11-07-2007, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by Go Blue
eh CS....not so much. Temple Chapter or Austin chapter for me

whats wrong with CS. I work out of that chapter. my crew is rock solid. we have 95 members. 33 % are d-5's-- first or second year. every chapter is complained about. close call goes the wrong way, and they all complain, at least 50 %. it is a tough but rewarding experience to do football. many rules to learn. good way to make extra gas money, which we know is well needed. go to www.taso.org for all the chapter info.

Johnny 5

11-07-2007, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by zebrablue2
whats wrong with CS. I work out of that chapter. my crew is rock solid. we have 95 members. 33 % are d-5's-- first or second year. every chapter is complained about. close call goes the wrong way, and they all complain, at least 50 %. it is a tough but rewarding experience to do football. many rules to learn. good way to make extra gas money, which we know is well needed. go to www.taso.org for all the chapter info.

how do we sign up for the test next year?

and is the test hard?

Old Tiger

11-07-2007, 05:44 PM

Only thing I like about CS is the mall.

buff4life

11-07-2007, 05:49 PM

there is a central texas chapter...

buff4life

11-07-2007, 05:49 PM

Old Tiger

11-07-2007, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by buff4life
there is a central texas chapter... pick us one out or something

buff4life

11-07-2007, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by Go Blue
pick us one out or something

alright the amarillo chapter...

bigron15

11-07-2007, 05:57 PM

my dad is a head linesman out of the abilene chapter. he has had a few 5A contract games, one last year with abilene high and Lubbock Monterey and this year with cooper and temple (pretty good since there is only 2 5A's in our area). he says that the test isnt hard at all. he is in his 6th year and he is a Division 3

Old Tiger

11-07-2007, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by buff4life
alright the amarillo chapter... you're driving

VAMike

11-07-2007, 06:33 PM

We can use all the help we can get in most parts of the state. Be aware that your first year will generally be on subvaristy fields unless you are in the smaller chapters.

The test is not hard and you get tremendous assistance getting through it. There may be a slight pay decrease next year in some subvarsity but for those of you who are just starting it will not be a decrease as it will be all you have ever known.

Old Tiger

11-07-2007, 06:35 PM

What is the pay range that we could expect if we did sub-varsity officiating?

bigron15

11-07-2007, 06:36 PM

my dad has been trying to get me into it but i decided to wait till next year

VAMike

11-07-2007, 06:39 PM

12 Minute Quarters----------$40.00
10 Minute Quarters----------$35.00
8 Minute Quarters-----------$30.00
Cont. Clock/6 Min. Qtr-------$25.00

This is what we are hearing will be used next year. Most subvarsity are 8 - 10 min qtrs.

Most sites have 2 - 3 games a night so it could be about $100 total for the night

bigron15

11-07-2007, 06:42 PM

it varies wherever you go

Old Tiger

11-07-2007, 06:42 PM

That's pretty neat and easy money for the most part.

VAMike

11-07-2007, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by bigron15
it varies wherever you go

Allegedly next year there will be no variation but I will believe it when I see it.

bigron15

11-07-2007, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by VAMike
Allegedly next year there will be no variation but I will believe it when I see it.

my dad said that the everyone was supposed to pay the same thing for subvarsity this year.

Johnny 5

11-07-2007, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by VAMike
We can use all the help we can get in most parts of the state. Be aware that your first year will generally be on subvaristy fields unless you are in the smaller chapters.

The test is not hard and you get tremendous assistance getting through it. There may be a slight pay decrease next year in some subvarsity but for those of you who are just starting it will not be a decrease as it will be all you have ever known.

I would rather be on sub varsity to start with ;)

Where do I sign up?

VAMike

11-07-2007, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by Johnny 5
I would rather be on sub varsity to start with ;)

Where do I sign up?

Assuming you are in Rio Hondo, you would go to the Rio Grande Valley Chapter:

Ernesto Lopez
ernlopez@cs.com

Tom Weekley
tandcweekley@tiagris.com

bigron15

11-07-2007, 07:05 PM

my dads crew was short a man and my dad called me and i helped out. it was only 7 and 8 grade but it got me hooked.

buff4life

11-07-2007, 07:29 PM

casey, sub varsity would be laughable, we should do it next year lol...

there's no age requirement thing is there?

Old Tiger

11-07-2007, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by buff4life
casey, sub varsity would be laughable, we should do it next year lol...

there's no age requirement thing is there? Is there a height or weight requirement?

buff4life

11-07-2007, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Go Blue
Is there a height or weight requirement?

casey you might not meet either...

Old Tiger

11-07-2007, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by buff4life
casey you might not meet either... I know... :(

VAMike

11-07-2007, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by Go Blue
Is there a height or weight requirement?

I can't believe you have been to a game lateky if you are asking this qiuestion.;)

Old Tiger

11-07-2007, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by VAMike
I can't believe you have been to a game lateky if you are asking this qiuestion.;) :D They were always bigger than me so I figured :p

whtfbplaya

11-07-2007, 07:34 PM

Johnny 5

11-07-2007, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by VAMike
Assuming you are in Rio Hondo, you would go to the Rio Grande Valley Chapter:

Ernesto Lopez
ernlopez@cs.com

Tom Weekley
tandcweekley@tiagris.com

Okay, well I emailed Tom as soon as I read the first page of this thread.

SO I will wait ;)

bigron15

11-07-2007, 07:58 PM

dad always says "we better look good out there tonight...we are the only ones dressed like this."

LH Panther Mom

11-07-2007, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by Go Blue
Is there a height or weight requirement?
Get prepared to be run over. :D

A couple of seasons ago, one of our kids was running back a punt. The official was going across the field....our kid was running full blast. He kind of turned to run around a defender, ran smack dab into the ref......bounced off and landed on his butt. It was hilarious! :D

Butkus

11-07-2007, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by Go Blue
I'm not a fan of the Waco chapter. And we care because.....:rolleyes:

zebrablue2

11-07-2007, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by buff4life
this seems weird, but what position are you?

umpire.

zebrablue2

11-07-2007, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by whtfbplaya
You have a crew in CS?

4 of us live 60 miles from CS. we work together every friday, they send us a fifth for BJ. talking about going to crews next year. wish they would. knowing everyone around you makes life easier on the field, but as I said, the 4 of us are almost always working together.

zebrablue2

11-07-2007, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by VAMike
12 Minute Quarters----------$40.00
10 Minute Quarters----------$35.00
8 Minute Quarters-----------$30.00
Cont. Clock/6 Min. Qtr-------$25.00

This is what we are hearing will be used next year. Most subvarsity are 8 - 10 min qtrs.

Most sites have 2 - 3 games a night so it could be about $100 total for the night

the 10 minute quarters we do on thursday nights are with 3 officials. they will cut us 5 dollars, and we run more than on friday nights. don't agree with that. they also need to look at gate then. there are a lot of people there on thurs. night. wish they would do a survey of officials on this new format. JMO.

buff4life

11-07-2007, 10:35 PM

couldn't agree more...sounds like a job to keep me in shape..

Casey sign us up lol...

Old Tiger

11-07-2007, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by Butkus
And we care because.....:rolleyes: Because you took the time to quote my post ;)

whtfbplaya

11-07-2007, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by zebrablue2
4 of us live 60 miles from CS. we work together every friday, they send us a fifth for BJ. talking about going to crews next year. wish they would. knowing everyone around you makes life easier on the field, but as I said, the 4 of us are almost always working together.

Do you live near Huntsville?