WOS87 Statewide Power Rankings Week 10

[WOS87]

There is still one game being played today (Burkburnett vs. WF Hirschi) and I will add the results of that game in as soon as it is over, but I doubt there will be any major changes just from that one game.

For some reason I have yet to figure out, almost all of the top Region IV teams moved up quite a few notches in the rankings.

I've color-coded teams by region to make it easier to see the distribution:

Region I is Red
Region II is Orange
Region III is Blue
Region IV is Green

http://idisk.mac.com/cboehme69-Public/scores/3arankweek10.gif

For this week's example teams I'll use Gilmer and Rockdale:

Gilmer has played six 3A opponents so far

beat Center by 57 pts: Center's rating of -0.53 + 57 = 56.47
beat Atlanta by 28 pts: 4.10 + 28 = 32.10
beat Sabine by 52 pts: -25.19 + 52 = 26.81
beat White Oak by 56 pts: -9.78 + 56 = 46.22
beat Mineola by 52 pts: -11.82 + 52 = 40.18
beat Spring Hill by 58 pts: 15.84 + 58 = 73.84!!

The average of the six is: 45.94 - Gilmer's rating exactly



Rockdale has played ten 3A opponents so far

lost to Gonzales by 6: 14.40 - 6 = 8.40
lost to Caldwell by 11: 33.42 - 11 = 22.42
lost to Madisonville by 32: 31.03 - 32 = -0.97
beat Mexia by 29: 7.10 + 29 = 36.10
lost to China Spring by 25: 29.04 - 25 = 4.04
lost to Robinson by 21: 25.41 - 21 = 4.41
lost to Liberty Hill by 12: 45.24 - 12 = 33.24
beat Hutto by 20: 10.36 + 20 = 30.36
beat Taylor by 14: -1.79 + 14 = 12.21
beat Cameron by 22: 8.94 + 22 = 30.94

The average of the 10 individual game ratings comes out to be: 18.12 - Rockdale's rating exactly

The same should be true if similar calculations are determined for the remaining 172 teams. Let me know if any errors are found and I will correct them.

[DDBooger]

i know this is a 3a site, but have one for 4a:cool:

[Gobbla2001]

formula almost got China Spring and Waco Connally right ha...

Waco Connally dropped 5 spots... China Spring moved up 9 after beating the crap outta Connally... Connally is only a spot ahead now... that seems about right for power ratings...

Good Job, WOS...

[piratebg]

154. Sinton (1-8)
159. Aransas pass (3-6)


Does this look odd to anyone else?

[3ABirdMan]

WOW!

I've been chasing the softball with my daughter sooooo much this fall I failed to notice SINTON'S RECORD!

I only mention this because of my Bridge City's record!

And these 2 teams met in the Region III final HOW MANY YEARS AGO?

I know how you guys and gals feel............ ALL TOO WELL! :(

[WOS87]

The Burkburnett - WF Hirschi game results are now factored in. Since the ratings had predicted Burk to win by 47 points, and they ended up winning by 46... very little changed.

[FormerBellvilleBrahma]

District 23

Giddings----7
Caldwell----10
Navasota---26
Bellville------36


District 24

Needville-----42
Sealy----------50
Columbus-----68

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by FormerBellvilleBrahma
District 23

Giddings----7
Caldwell----10
Navasota---26
Bellville------36


District 24

Needville-----42
Sealy----------50
Columbus-----68

Waco Connally - 15
China Spring - 16

China Spring 33 Waco Connally - 7

[WOS87]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
Waco Connally - 15
China Spring - 16

China Spring 33 Waco Connally - 7

The reason for that is Connally's better showing against 3 common opponents...


China Spring 14
Fairfield 0

Waco Connally 56
Fairfield 0



China Spring 34
Mexia 7

Waco Connally 41
Mexia 7



China Spring 23
Lorena 6

Waco Connally 52
Lorena 12


From those four games alone Connally would have a higher rating:

China Spring +14 +27,+17 +30 = 88
Connally +56 +34 +40 -30 = 100

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by WOS87
The reason for that is Connally's better showing against 3 common opponents...


China Spring 14
Fairfield 0

Waco Connally 56
Fairfield 0



China Spring 34
Mexia 7

Waco Connally 41
Mexia 7



China Spring 23
Lorena 6

Waco Connally 52
Lorena 12


From those four games alone Connally would have a higher rating:

China Spring +14 +27,+17 +30 = 88
Connally +56 +34 +40 -30 = 100

oh I know why it's like that... they're 'power' ratings, I was just showing fbb that these can be wrong... with a #10 gettin' creamed by a team rated 15 sports below them...

head to head is where it's at...

but these are accurate 'power' ratings and do show how tough 3A is this year below the top 5 or so...

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by FormerBellvilleBrahma
District 23

Giddings----7
Caldwell----10
Navasota---26
Bellville------36


District 24

Needville-----42
Sealy----------50
Columbus-----68 your point? power ratings are pretty much useless. They do not always equal wins. That is all.

[FormerBellvilleBrahma]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
your point? power ratings are pretty much useless. They do not always equal wins. That is all.

Useless? kinda like the BCS, tell that to the people that make it up. Looks to me there are 4 teams higher in district 23, the team that will stay at home in district 23 could win the district in 24, but we will see how this poll plays out the 1st week of the play-offs.

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by FormerBellvilleBrahma
Looks to me there are 4 teams higher in district 23, the team that will stay at home in district 23 could win the district in 24,

you may be right, but like I've been saying, last week Waco Connally was ranked 10 in the poll, China Spring was 25... China Spring beat Waco Connally this week 33-7...... and are still ranked one spot below Waco Connally...

[buff4ever]

FBB has been trying to prove D23 is deeper than D24 all year. They are crazy enough to argue with him, so he as enjoying the support by these power rankins. Just another back-up to FBB's theory.

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by buff4ever
FBB has been trying to prove D23 is deeper than D24 all year. They are crazy enough to argue with him, so he as enjoying the support by these power rankins. Just another back-up to FBB's theory.

fbb is probably right... tough teams in 23...

[State_In_08]

That's right... 23-3A is the deepest. Also, I think these rankings show Region III is by far the best... 18 out of the Top 30 teams are from Region III.

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by State_In_08
That's right... 23-3A is the deepest. Also, I think these rankings show Region III is by far the best... 18 out of the Top 30 teams are from Region III.

you don't wanna go to state in '07???

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by State_In_08
Also, I think these rankings show Region III is by far the best...

Beating a dead horse lives here...

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by 3ABirdMan
WOW!

I've been chasing the softball with my daughter sooooo much this fall I failed to notice SINTON'S RECORD!

I only mention this because of my Bridge City's record!

And these 2 teams met in the Region III final HOW MANY YEARS AGO?

I know how you guys and gals feel............ ALL TOO WELL! :(

yep 2001

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by pirate4state
yep 2001

NO... y'all met in the semi-finals though...

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
NO... y'all met in the semi-finals though...

Yes. We played at Kyle Field. The year was 2001 and no one gave us a shot and we beat them 38-0.

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by pirate4state
Yes. We played at Kyle Field. The year was 2001 and no one gave us a shot and we beat them 38-0.

yah... I was there for that one... I think Bridge City was the better team that night, just couldn't get it in the endzone...

[State_In_08]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
you don't wanna go to state in '07???

It really refers to the Class of '08 and the baseball and basketball teams.

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by FormerBellvilleBrahma
Useless? kinda like the BCS, tell that to the people that make it up. Looks to me there are 4 teams higher in district 23, the team that will stay at home in district 23 could win the district in 24, but we will see how this poll plays out the 1st week of the play-offs. LOL...you said it all right there...."its like the BCS".....so thank you for solidifying my point...its useless. As far as your take on the teams staying home winning D24....if that's the case why is it that the "inferior" D24 teams have a pretty good track record as of late for sending the "vastly superior" D23 teams home early to start basketball season? I am trying to figure out why all of you people up that way seem to think yall are all invincible this season. LOL.....ESPECIALLY Bellville.

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
yah... I was there for that one... I think Bridge City was the better team that night, just couldn't get it in the endzone... LOL so did Art Mack!!!!! LOL :D

[State_In_08]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
LOL...you said it all right there...."its like the BCS".....so thank you for solidifying my point...its useless. As far as your take on the teams staying home winning D24....if that's the case why is it that the "inferior" D24 teams have a pretty good track record as of late for sending the "vastly superior" D23 teams home early to start basketball season? I am trying to figure out why all of you people up that way seem to think yall are all invincible this season. LOL.....ESPECIALLY Bellville.

I wouldn't say we think were invincible... just superior. Still though, not like the players are going to go into the playoffs thinking everything is already set for them to win... they know anything can happen.

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by State_In_08
I wouldn't say we think were invincible... just superior. Still though, not like the players are going to go into the playoffs thinking everything is already set for them to win... they know anything can happen. as I recall....ya'll were "superior" last year as well and we all know how that turned out. :clap:

[State_In_08]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
as I recall....ya'll were "superior" last year as well and we all know how that turned out. :clap:

I can't speak for anyone but Navasota, and we definitely didn't get to show if we were superior or not seeing as how we went 3-7 and didn't make the playoffs.

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by State_In_08
I can't speak for anyone but Navasota, and we definitely didn't get to show if we were superior or not seeing as how we went 3-7 and didn't make the playoffs. some districts are just stacked alot closer than some others. Needville was 7-3 last year and sat home as well. I don't think D24 will be a cakewalk as most from D23 think we will be. Do I think we're superior...absolutely not, but do I think we can possibly hang....definitely. I think we'll see some good games in the playoffs. Maybe we'll see yall in the 1st round. If we DO in fact see ya'll, my only worry is that we can contain your speed. If Navasota is able to pound the ball, Needville will have their hands full, if Navasota tries to go to the air, Needville will make it hard on them. Can't wait! :) Best of luck to you guys.

[State_In_08]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
some districts are just stacked alot closer than some others. Needville was 7-3 last year and sat home as well. I don't think D24 will be a cakewalk as most from D23 think we will be. Do I think we're superior...absolutely not, but do I think we can possibly hang....definitely. I think we'll see some good games in the playoffs. Maybe we'll see yall in the 1st round. If we DO in fact see ya'll, my only worry is that we can contain your speed. If Navasota is able to pound the ball, Needville will have their hands full, if Navasota tries to go to the air, Needville will make it hard on them. Can't wait! :) Best of luck to you guys.

I think the way its shaping up, as long as we beat La Grange, we'll be the match-up in Round 1. I'm not saying anyone from that district is going to be a cakewalk by any means... if you were you wouldn't be a playoff team. As far as our offensive attack goes, we really can go either way. Pratt, our big running back, is a force, and we'll definitely pound it if we need to. The problem is whether or not Fedora will realize we need to pound it. Defensively I think both teams are pretty much the same... the air is covered and the ground is iffy. Good luck to you guys too. If we can beat La Grange, this'll be a rematch of that Round 1 baseball matchup that went so horribly wrong for us last year... :mad: I'm still mad about that.

[Panther One]

One other thing that these rankings don't account for is "calling off the dogs." We could have easily scored 70+ points each of the last two weeks and had two shutouts if we had left our first teams in. Instead, we take it easy and drop points this week.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by Panther One
We could have easily scored 70+ points each of the last two weeks and had two shutouts if we had left our first teams in

But you didn't....

The same thing could be said for the games that all of the top 9 played this past week. 49-13, 65-7, 62-13, 55-6, 61-0, 35-7, 34-6, 36-15

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by Panther One
One other thing that these rankings don't account for is "calling off the dogs." We could have easily scored 70+ points each of the last two weeks and had two shutouts if we had left our first teams in. Instead, we take it easy and drop points this week.

Hey Panther don't sweat it. The fact that your coach calls of the dogs shows class. Don't let the rankings get to you. When it's all said an done everyone gets their chance to prove who's the best. Ab. Wylie had Breckenridge down 35-0 at one point in the first quater and could have probably beat them 100-0, but the coach took out most of the starters early in the second quater allowing Breckenrigde to score 21 second quater points, the final was 63-35. Breckenridge score more points on Wylie than anybody this year but it doesn't mean anything. In the long run it makes run team better by playing your reserves and getting them some quality playing time.

[Panther One]

I'm not sweating it. Just showing how this thing could be skewed. Were these rankings around last year? I would have loved to have seen how our 84-10 win over state ranked Gatesville at the time would have affected the rankings. It's hard to account for a team having 9 turnovers.

[buff4life]

23 teams from region 3

3 teams from region 4 :doh: :doh:

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by buff4life
23 teams from region 3

3 teams from region 4 :doh: :doh:

The only team from region 3 or any other region that matters is the one playing in the finals.

The sad thing is that region 3 teams usually look like this while there handing out the trophy.

:doh: :confused: :weeping: :weeping: :mad: :flaming: :foul: :crying:

[lakers]

I am ready for these ranking to be useless, as in the playoffs starting up...

anybody else agree???

Only 2 more weeks...:thinking:

And that is redicilous that there are so many teams from region III. somethin smells a little fishy to me...:p

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by lakers
And that is redicilous that there are so many teams from region III. somethin smells a little fishy to me...:p
Well of course it smells fishy. Lots of those towns are close to lakes and the Gulf.....something West Texas knows nothing of. :p

[STANG RED]

Originally posted by Panther One
I'm not sweating it. Just showing how this thing could be skewed. Were these rankings around last year? I would have loved to have seen how our 84-10 win over state ranked Gatesville at the time would have affected the rankings. It's hard to account for a team having 9 turnovers.

You should have been here to defend your team. LH did catch a lot of flack on here for putting up 84 last year. Poor LH Panther Mom had to defend that one for a while.:D

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by Panther One
One other thing that these rankings don't account for is "calling off the dogs." We could have easily scored 70+ points each of the last two weeks and had two shutouts if we had left our first teams in. Instead, we take it easy and drop points this week.

This is one that I agree about. Some teams will call off the dogs. Celina looks at it as an opportunity to build for next year and let second teamers come in and compete. Celina will play it's full second team d and o perhaps as much as 2/5's of a season in game conditions. Some years as much as half like in 05. That is why I prefer Massey's because his system downplays point spread in favor of Strength of schedule and wins vs losses. That is not to say that he does not factor it in at all but that he allows other factors to count more than most ranking systems and point spread less. Several factors such as slow moving ball control teams and environmental conditions can dictate scores much lower in spread but no less dominant in performance.

[BILLYFRED0000]

This is Masseys top 60. The first column
indicates change in position then team,
wins. losses, 0(idk what it's for),Rating, position this week,
Power rating, Offensive rating, Defensive rating, and Strength of Schedule, then league region and district.

---- Gilmer 9 0 0 2.456 (1) 59.94 (1) 60.26 (1) 22.02 (5) 21.02 (32) 3A II-15
---- Celina 9 0 0 2.333 (2) 56.71 (2) 53.45 (2) 25.59 (1) 21.22 (29) 3A II-9
-- Giddings 8 0 0 2.048 (3) 47.42 (3) 45.05 (13) 24.71 (2) 26.24 (8) 3A III-23
-- La Vega 9 0 0 2.007 (4) 47.17 (4) 48.25 (6) 21.26 (6) 20.78 (36) 3A III-17
Liberty Hill 8 0 0 1.964 (5) 45.95 (5) 51.18 (3) 17.11 (14) 23.95 (14) 3A III-18
2 Royse C 9 0 0 1.798 (6) 42.50 (7) 48.14 (7) 16.70 (17) 16.83 (72) 3A II-10
Abilene W 7 2 0 1.787 (7) 43.47 (6) 47.63 (9) 18.18 (11) 30.97 (2) 3A I-7
2 Caldwell 7 1 0 1.741 (8) 41.22 (8) 49.30 (5) 14.25 (25) 26.71 (7) 3A III-23
W O Stark 8 1 0 1.730 (9) 40.90 (9) 39.62 (25) 23.62 (4) 24.63 (12) 3A III-21
1 China Sp 8 1 0 1.683 (10) 38.99 (10) 42.37 (16) 18.96 (9) 23.51 (16) 3A III-17
-5 Graham 8 1 0 1.643 (11) 38.20 (11) 36.85 (41) 23.69 (3) 27.05 (5) 3A I-6
7 -Vernon 8 1 0 1.562 (12) 34.31 (16) 38.10 (31) 18.55 (10) 23.52 (15) 3A I-6
1 --Cuero 7 2 0 1.495 (13) 37.58 (12) 49.98 (4) 9.94 (51) 19.99 (42) 3A IV-29
-2 Carthag 7 2 0 1.465 (14) 35.72 (13) 41.95 (17) 16.11 (19) 21.97 (25) 3A III-20
-2 Wakelan 7 1 0 1.447 (15) 32.35 (20) 39.68 (24) 15.01 (24) 20.93 (33) 3A II-9
-----Clyde 7 3 0 1.431 (16) 34.83 (14) 39.73 (23) 17.44 (13) 26.00 (10) 3A I-7
1 -Canyon 8 1 0 1.420 (17) 31.92 (21) 42.47 (15) 11.80 (37) 19.91 (44) 3A I-5
2 Burkburn 6 2 0 1.403 (18) 34.30 (17) 35.74 (46) 20.90 (7) 23.25 (17) 3A I-6
6 Rio Hond 9 0 0 1.397 (19) 32.43 (19) 37.72 (34) 17.05 (15) 3.91 (147) 3A IV-32
1 Robinson 5 4 0 1.386 (20) 34.55 (15) 36.69 (42) 20.21 (8) 31.32 (1) 3A III-17
-6 --Snyder 7 2 0 1.363 (21) 33.05 (18) 45.80 (11) 9.60 (54) 21.31 (28) 3A I-3
-5 Madisonv 8 1 0 1.352 (22) 31.83 (22) 43.43 (14) 10.74 (42) 15.61 (85) 3A III-19
-1 Andrews 8 1 0 1.342 (23) 29.86 (26) 35.19 (52) 17.01 (16) 18.73 (54) 3A I-3
10 ---Diboll 9 0 0 1.305 (24) 28.73 (28) 47.78 (8) 3.29 (107) 7.93 (129) 3A III-20
-1 Ft Stock 8 1 0 1.246 (25) 28.64 (29) 39.32 (27) 11.66 (38) 11.52 (108) 3A I-1
5 ---Argyle 7 2 0 1.236 (26) 29.54 (27) 46.18 (10) 5.70 (86) 19.49 (48) 3A I-8
2 Needville 7 2 0 1.227 (27) 31.31 (23) 37.45 (36) 16.20 (18) 16.97 (71) 3A III-24
-2 Kirbyvill 8 1 0 1.224 (28) 25.54 (37) 40.74 (21) 7.14 (75) 16.00 (80) 3A III-21
-2 Sweetw 5 4 0 1.223 (29) 30.34 (25) 37.26 (39) 15.42 (22) 27.02 (6) 3A I-7
-2 -Prosper 6 3 0 1.216 (30) 30.60 (24) 40.95 (20) 11.99 (34) 22.70 (20) 3A II-9
7 Spring Hill 6 3 0 1.186 (31) 27.89 (31) 34.22 (58) 16.02 (21) 22.60 (21) 3A II-15
-2 Navasota 6 3 0 1.136 (32) 26.87 (34) 38.77 (29) 10.44 (46) 21.86 (26) 3A III-23
-10 Crockett 6 3 0 1.132 (33) 26.95 (33) 34.15 (60) 15.14 (23) 22.26 (24) 3A III-20
2 -Gonzales 8 2 0 1.084 (34) 23.40 (45) 37.73 (33) 8.01 (67) 17.01 (70) 3A IV-29
6 Brownfield 7 1 0 1.078 (35) 23.77 (44) 37.48 (35) 8.63 (58) 12.68 (102) 3A I-4
3 Bridgeport 6 3 0 1.075 (36) 25.81 (36) 37.10 (40) 11.05 (41) 20.01 (41) 3A I-8
-4 ConnallyW 5 4 0 1.071 (37) 28.09 (30) 39.12 (28) 11.31 (39) 22.46 (22) 3A III-17
11 Chapel Hill 6 3 0 1.059 (38) 27.17 (32) 41.01 (19) 8.50 (59) 18.63 (57) 3A II-14
7 Pleasant G 7 2 0 1.051 (39) 21.44 (56) 30.69 (83) 13.09 (28) 17.61 (65) 3A II-16
3 -Columbus 8 1 0 1.050 (40) 21.61 (54) 35.78 (45) 8.17 (66) 13.11 (97) 3A III-24
3 -----Sealy 6 3 0 1.049 (41) 24.52 (41) 34.57 (57) 12.29 (33) 19.44 (51) 3A III-24
-7 Greenwoo 5 4 0 1.042 (42) 25.05 (39) 29.65 (93) 17.74 (12) 25.24 (11) 3A I-3
-6 -Decatur 5 4 0 1.035 (43) 25.45 (38) 41.94 (18) 5.85 (82) 23.00 (18) 3A I-8
4 -Rockdale 4 6 0 1.033 (44) 26.53 (35) 35.81 (44) 13.06 (29) 28.29 (3) 3A III-18
-5 Pittsburg 6 3 0 1.029 (45) 24.75 (40) 39.39 (26) 7.71 (70) 19.47 (49) 3A II-16
12 Glen Rose 6 3 0 1.010 (46) 22.38 (52) 32.86 (67) 11.86 (36) 18.51 (58) 3A II-12
-15 Kennedal 6 3 0 0.983 (47) 23.12 (48) 38.71 (30) 6.75 (78) 17.80 (63) 3A II-12
-6 ----Llano 7 2 0 0.981 (48) 23.28 (47) 37.39 (37) 8.23 (64) 12.37 (104) 3A IV-25
3 --Seminole 5 4 0 0.946 (49) 23.34 (46) 33.17 (66) 12.52 (32) 19.96 (43) 3A I-4
4 --Kaufman 7 2 0 0.944 (50) 19.92 (62) 33.27 (65) 8.99 (56) 14.16 (92) 3A II-13
-4 ---Jasper 5 4 0 0.940 (51) 23.02 (49) 32.55 (70) 12.80 (30) 20.38 (39) 3A III-21
9 Dal Roosev 8 1 0 0.905 (52) 20.33 (58) 35.41 (49) 7.26 (74) 6.32 (137) 3A II-11
11 --Wills Pt 6 3 0 0.890 (53) 19.93 (61) 26.21 (113) 16.06 (20) 17.40 (66) 3A II-10
2 ---Pilot Pt 6 3 0 0.881 (54) 19.10 (67) 31.65 (75) 9.79 (52) 12.86 (100) 3A II-9
2 Whitesbor 7 2 0 0.877 (55) 19.47 (65) 35.33 (51) 6.48 (80) 10.93 (115) 3A II-9
4 Westwood 5 4 0 0.876 (56) 22.96 (50) 45.25 (12) 0.05 (129) 18.31 (60) 3A III-19
9 -----West 5 4 0 0.870 (57) 23.82 (42) 35.55 (47) 10.61 (44) 16.64 (74) 3A II-12
-3 Liberty Ey 4 5 0 0.869 (58) 23.81 (43) 32.54 (71) 13.61 (27) 20.89 (34) 3A II-16
-9 Monahans 5 4 0 0.868 (59) 22.74 (51) 33.98 (61) 11.10 (40) 16.48 (78) 3A I-1
-7 ----Hutto 3 5 0 0.862 (60) 22.37 (53) 36.48 (43) 8.23 (63) 27.61 (4) 3A III-18

I stopped in the top 60 because most of the playoff teams will come out of this group. District 9 3A has 5 teams in the top 60 out of an 8 team district. 9 3a ranks out as one of the top 3 or 4 toughest districts.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
That is why I prefer Massey's because his system downplays point spread in favor of Strength of schedule and wins vs losses.
Sheesh......I doubt WOS87 is trying to compete with Massey's. It's not like any ranking or poll system really means a hill of beans in the end, anyway. I like them both and I think that once WOS87's has gone through an entire season, it will be even better. Still, when you get right down to it, it's all "on paper" and paper might beat rock but it doesn't beat scissors. :p

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Sheesh......I doubt WOS87 is trying to compete with Massey's. It's not like any ranking or poll system really means a hill of beans in the end, anyway. I like them both and I think that once WOS87's has gone through an entire season, it will be even better. Still, when you get right down to it, it's all "on paper" and paper might beat rock but it doesn't beat scissors. :p


Nice analogy LHPM. That was funny.

To everyone knocking these rankings:

I think anyone that dedicates the time to try to make something like this for everyone this board doesnt deserve to be hassled about the way it works out. You may not agree with it, but it is simple math, and not an opinion. If you dont like it, come up with a better one

....or is it easier and less time consuming to sit in your cush computer chair and knock someone's effort to do something nice for everyone on the board?


Thanks WOS87. I appreciate you, and all that you contribute to this board. I think side by side your method is very comparable to Massey. Keep up the good work.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Do not misinterpret my use of Massey's. WOS is always one of my personal favorites just for the amount of work he puts in. I was pointing out differences and similarities in the way WOS and Massey's or any other system works. It takes a lot of work to set a system up that comes out somewhat close to reality and the system WOS is using is quite sound using any linearization methods for approximate values.

[rockdale80]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Do not misinterpret my use of Massey's. WOS is always one of my personal favorites just for the amount of work he puts in. I was pointing out differences and similarities in the way WOS and Massey's or any other system works. It takes a lot of work to set a system up that comes out somewhat close to reality and the system WOS is using is quite sound using any linearization methods for approximate values.


I was not referring to you, but others have slammed him enough for no reason....

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by rockdale80
Nice analogy LHPM. That was funny.

To everyone knocking these rankings:

I think anyone that dedicates the time to try to make something like this for everyone this board doesnt deserve to be hassled about the way it works out. You may not agree with it, but it is simple math, and not an opinion. If you dont like it, come up with a better one

....or is it easier and less time consuming to sit in your cush computer chair and knock someone's effort to do something nice for everyone on the board?


Thanks WOS87. I appreciate you, and all that you contribute to this board. I think side by side your method is very comparable to Massey. Keep up the good work.

I agree with that 100%.

[3ABirdMan]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
I agree with that 100%.

:mad: I DISAGREE 100% !

There's nothing easy about that math ! :nerd:

[OldNavy]

Originally posted by 3ABirdMan
:mad: I DISAGREE 100% !

Does that make you 100% disagreeable??????

[WOS87]

This is just for those interested in the mathematics... I thought it was interesting to see how other teams were affected by the results of a couple of games....

After adding in the two Thursday night games..

Canyon 40
Dalhart 28

and

Dallas Roosevelt 27
Carrollton Ranchview 7

..here's the teams that were most affected (both positively and negatively) from the results of those two games. Even though Canyon and Roosevelt both won, since they both won by less than the predicted margin, both of their ratings dropped.

158 out of the 174 teams statewide were affected by less than a tenth of a point. Here are the 16 teams who's rating changed more than that due to the results of these two games.

Largest Increase in Rating
(teams with an increase > 0.10)

1. Dalhart - Old Rating (-9.70) - New Rating (-6.20) - Difference: +3.50464
2. Perryton - Old Rating (-11.47) - New Rating (-10.24) - Difference: +1.22980
3. Brownfield - Old Rating (-1.44) - New Rating (-0.60) - Difference: +0.84345
4. Carrollton Ranchview - Old Rating (-2.90) - New Rating (-2.27) - Difference: +0.63452
5. Borger - Old Rating (-28.19) - New Rating (-27.65) - Difference: +0.53363
6. Lubbock Cooper - Old Rating (-8.77) - New Rating (-8.46) - Difference: +0.30938
7. Lamesa - Old Rating (-46.20) - New Rating (-46.00) - Difference: +0.20762
8. Midland Greenwood - Old Rating (1.35) - New Rating (1.50) - Difference: +0.15013


Largest Decrease in Rating
(teams with a decrease >0.10)

167. Sweetwater - Old Rating (15.10) - New Rating (14.97) - Difference: -0.1343
168. Wichita Falls Hirschi - Old Rating (-27.60) - New Rating (-27.77) - Difference: -0.1724
169. FW Castleberry - Old Rating (-20.30 - New Rating (-20.66) - Difference: -0.3535
170. Lake Worth - Old Rating (-0.81) - New Rating (-1.20) - Difference: -0.3861
171. FW Diamond Hill - Old Rating (-39.84) - New Rating (-40.31) - Difference: -0.4731
172. Dallas Madison - Old Rating (1.60) - New Rating (1.05) - Difference: -0.5482
173. Canyon - Old Rating (14.76) - New Rating (13.71) - Difference: -1.0450
174. Dallas Roosevelt - Old Rating (26.41) - New Rating (24.32) - Difference: -2.0878

[duke55]

im sorry but this doesnt say anything...

[IHStangFan]

Gonzales 44....Ingleside 115. Guess Gonzales should destroy Ingleside in the 1st round. ;) :p

[Ranger Mom]

How is it that Sweetwater is ranked above Snyder and there is no one screaming about it????:eek: :eek: :thinking:

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
How is it that Sweetwater is ranked above Snyder and there is no one screaming about it????:eek: :eek: :thinking:
:smoker: :smoker: :smoker:

[Technoredneck]

Because rating really mean nothing, it all comes down to what happens on the field

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
:smoker: :smoker: :smoker:

I must be smoking something...I could have sworn that the little excel chart was there when I looked earlier!!:confused: :confused:

MUST GET SLEEP!!:doh:

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
I must be smoking something...I could have sworn that the little excel chart was there when I looked earlier!!:confused: :confused:

MUST GET SLEEP!!:doh:
LMAO! Not YOU......I was saying that's why no one is :weeping: :weeping: . ;)