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Panther One
10-23-2007, 04:26 PM
...are up if anyone is interested.

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=hsf&sub=TX&mid=

3afan
10-23-2007, 04:27 PM
oh well ... it is what it is

eagles_victory
10-23-2007, 04:30 PM
Fairfield is 143 and Sinton is 144 where u at now rita? :D

buff4ever
10-23-2007, 04:34 PM
maybe some of the caldwell people who thought their schedule was so tough will review closely these ratings. Massey is the closest thing to legit that I have come accross, it just takes so much work to get done right.

BobcatBenny
10-23-2007, 04:34 PM
:D :D :D :D

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

lostaussie
10-23-2007, 04:43 PM
nope, don't like these at all.

crzyjournalist03
10-23-2007, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by lostaussie
nope, don't like these at all.

you don't like your team having a target on it??? :D

kaorder1999
10-23-2007, 05:12 PM
weird how those ratings work. Their are teams WELL ahead of teams they got beat by this year head to head.

3afan
10-23-2007, 05:14 PM
toughest schedule per Massey:

Ch Team W L T Rating Power Offense Defense Sched
-10 Robinson 4 3 0 1.538 (11) 37.41 (12) 39.76 (23) 19.78 (7) 34.68 (1) 3A III-17
-7 Abilene Wylie 5 2 0 1.834 (8) 44.94 (7) 46.48 (10) 20.58 (6) 34.41 (2) 3A I-7
-119 Center 0 7 0 0.144 (120) 4.78 (116) 22.49 (133) 4.41 (101) 33.96 (3) 3A III-20
-51 Rockdale 2 6 0 0.934 (52) 25.19 (39) 33.19 (59) 14.12 (28) 31.28 (4) 3A III-18
-12 Clyde 5 3 0 1.492 (13) 37.50 (11) 40.62 (18) 19.00 (11) 30.51 (5) 3A I-7
-11 Wakeland 5 1 0 1.505 (12) 33.85 (15) 40.07 (21) 15.90 (16) 28.96 (6) 3A II-9
-2 Graham 7 0 0 2.095 (3) 48.85 (3) 43.07 (14) 27.91 (1) 28.41 (7) 3A I-6
-83 Wimberley 1 5 0 0.580 (84) 16.51 (75) 34.92 (47) 3.71 (109) 27.67 (8) 3A IV-25
-44 Hutto 3 4 0 0.957 (45) 24.77 (41) 37.98 (30) 8.92 (57) 27.24 (9) 3A III-18
-72 Atlanta 2 5 0 0.667 (73) 17.15 (72) 27.21 (100) 12.06 (34) 26.59 (10) 3A II-16

firstdown
10-23-2007, 05:56 PM
I think they are the closest thing to being right out there.
Beats all the homer rankings flying around;)

3afan
10-23-2007, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by kaorder1999
weird how those ratings work. Their are teams WELL ahead of teams they got beat by this year head to head.

yeah with these type rankings sometimes the numbers work, sometimes they dont

lakers
10-23-2007, 07:08 PM
I like that, that is a pretty neat ranking system.

:clap:

lostaussie
10-23-2007, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
you don't like your team having a target on it??? :D nothing to do with a target..........i'm just kinda shy:D

BILLYFRED0000
10-23-2007, 08:10 PM
For the record, Massey's has been very accurate over the last few years and I have used his stats almost like bible. I am a little surprised how strongly Gilmer is rated but otherwise falls out close to what I suspected. For example, LH is not playing D quite as well as last year and last year they were ranked in the top 5 in both at the end of the year.



Gilmer 7 0 0 2.284 (1) 55.45 (1) 58.47 (1) 19.10 (10) 20.06 (39) 3A II-15
-1 Celina 7 0 0 2.279 (2) 55.23 (2) 49.61 (5) 27.75 (2) 23.62 (18) 3A II-9
-2 Graham 7 0 0 2.095 (3) 48.85 (3) 43.07 (14) 27.91 (1) 28.41 (7) 3A I-6
-3 La Vega 7 0 0 2.014 (4) 47.26 (4) 47.02 (9) 22.36 (5) 22.87 (23) 3A III-17
-4 Giddings 6 0 0 1.951 (5) 45.38 (5) 47.98 (8) 19.52 (8) 24.08 (16) 3A III-23
-5 Liberty Hill 6 0 0 1.933 (6) 45.00 (6) 50.97 (3) 16.15 (14) 25.88 (12) 3A III-18
-6 Caldwell 6 0 0 1.880 (7) 44.07 (8) 51.43 (2) 14.76 (22) 22.06 (28) 3A III-23
-7 Abilene Wylie 5 2 0 1.834 (8) 44.94 (7) 46.48 (10) 20.58 (6) 34.41 (2) 3A I-7
-8 Royse City 7 0 0 1.827 (9) 43.63 (9) 50.35 (4) 15.40 (17) 16.59 (74) 3A II-10
-9 W Orange Stark 6 1 0 1.689 (10) 40.13 (10) 36.76 (37) 25.49 (3) 25.98 (11) 3A III-21
-10 Robinson 4 3 0 1.538 (11) 37.41 (12) 39.76 (23) 19.78 (7) 34.68 (1) 3A III-17
-11 Wakeland 5 1 0 1.505 (12) 33.85 (15) 40.07 (21) 15.90 (16) 28.96 (6) 3A II-9
-12 Clyde 5 3 0 1.492 (13) 37.50 (11) 40.62 (18) 19.00 (11) 30.51 (5) 3A I-7
-13 Cuero 6 2 0 1.455 (14) 37.22 (13) 48.15 (7) 11.19 (38) 20.16 (37) 3A IV-29
-14 Madisonville 6 1 0 1.455 (15) 34.71 (14) 42.09 (16) 14.74 (23) 19.14 (48) 3A III-19
-15 Crockett 6 1 0 1.445 (16) 33.41 (17) 36.07 (42) 19.46 (9) 19.88 (41) 3A III-20
-16 Argyle 6 1 0 1.397 (17) 33.29 (18) 48.22 (6) 7.19 (75) 18.66 (57) 3A I-8
-17 China Spring 6 1 0 1.394 (18) 32.84 (20) 40.16 (20) 14.80 (21) 18.25 (62) 3A III-17
-18 Vernon 6 1 0 1.384 (19) 30.34 (25) 38.29 (27) 14.17 (27) 22.77 (25) 3A I-6
-19 Burkburnett 5 2 0 1.378 (20) 33.54 (16) 33.22 (57) 22.45 (4) 25.52 (13) 3A I-6
-20 Carthage 5 2 0 1.351 (21) 32.92 (19) 37.66 (33) 17.38 (12) 23.01 (21) 3A III-20
-21 Diboll 7 0 0 1.333 (22) 31.19 (23) 46.27 (11) 7.04 (77) 4.70 (136) 3A III-20
-22 Snyder 5 2 0 1.320 (23) 32.00 (21) 44.49 (12) 9.63 (49) 24.84 (15) 3A I-3
-23 Sweetwater 5 3 0 1.283 (24) 31.53 (22) 39.33 (24) 14.32 (26) 25.22 (14) 3A I-7
-24 Canyon 6 1 0 1.274 (25) 28.20 (30) 42.54 (15) 7.78 (71) 18.74 (54) 3A I-5
-25 Navasota 5 2 0 1.233 (26) 28.46 (28) 37.41 (35) 13.16 (32) 22.98 (22) 3A III-23

lion75
10-23-2007, 08:26 PM
I'd like to see last years rankings about this time to see how effective this system is. It is definitely intriguing.

BILLYFRED0000
10-23-2007, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by lion75
I'd like to see last years rankings about this time to see how effective this system is. It is definitely intriguing.

For some reason I am not able to get to the archive stuff at Massey's. Might be my box. I will try to get that stuff later.

Here is the top 25 all classifications TX.

Permian 7 0 0 2.932 (1) 70.53 (1) 62.99 (1) 29.66 (5) 42.53 (50) 5A
-1 Katy 7 0 0 2.787 (2) 67.07 (2) 56.39 (9) 32.81 (3) 41.48 (64) 5A
-2 Arl Bowie 7 0 0 2.734 (3) 64.71 (4) 57.10 (7) 29.74 (4) 41.59 (63) 5A
-3 Euless Trinity 6 1 0 2.706 (4) 65.53 (3) 52.11 (23) 35.54 (1) 49.51 (3) 5A
-4 North Shore 7 0 0 2.551 (5) 60.72 (7) 56.99 (8) 25.86 (37) 34.76 (146) 5A
-5 Allen 7 0 0 2.536 (6) 56.61 (16) 59.10 (4) 19.64 (128) 47.43 (14) 5A
-6 Pflugerville 6 1 0 2.523 (7) 60.31 (9) 56.22 (10) 26.22 (31) 48.57 (7) 5A
-7 Stephenville 7 0 0 2.515 (8) 59.18 (11) 55.83 (11) 25.47 (45) 35.27 (133) 4A
-8 Longview 6 1 0 2.507 (9) 58.99 (12) 52.38 (22) 28.74 (12) 48.41 (8) 5A
-9 Abilene 7 0 0 2.505 (10) 57.96 (15) 52.75 (20) 27.33 (27) 42.77 (46) 5A
-10 Plano 6 1 0 2.501 (11) 61.40 (5) 49.17 (46) 34.35 (2) 45.02 (26) 5A
-11 Southlake Carroll 6 1 0 2.480 (12) 60.77 (6) 59.91 (3) 22.98 (68) 42.42 (53) 5A
-12 Lufkin 6 1 0 2.474 (13) 58.69 (13) 54.61 (15) 26.20 (33) 48.13 (9) 5A
-13 SA Madison 7 1 0 2.456 (14) 60.35 (8) 53.25 (17) 29.22 (7) 41.85 (60) 5A
-14 Klein Oak 7 0 0 2.452 (15) 58.47 (14) 52.92 (19) 27.67 (22) 32.90 (180) 5A
-15 Cypress Ridge 6 1 0 2.428 (16) 59.28 (10) 54.39 (16) 27.01 (28) 41.72 (62) 5A
-16 Martin 7 0 0 2.424 (17) 55.73 (17) 50.33 (36) 27.53 (25) 38.97 (90) 5A
-17 Waco 6 1 0 2.350 (18) 55.71 (18) 48.85 (50) 28.98 (9) 43.77 (35) 4A
-18 Smithson Val 6 1 0 2.300 (19) 55.68 (19) 54.82 (14) 22.99 (67) 40.48 (74) 5A
-19 Gilmer 7 0 0 2.284 (20) 55.45 (21) 58.47 (5) 19.10 (136) 20.06 (361) 3A
-20 Celina 7 0 0 2.279 (21) 55.23 (22) 49.61 (40) 27.75 (21) 23.62 (311) 3A
-21 Cedar Park 5 2 0 2.258 (22) 55.55 (20) 48.99 (49) 28.69 (14) 46.02 (23) 5A
-22 Leander 5 2 0 2.255 (23) 53.97 (24) 49.25 (44) 26.84 (30) 49.27 (4) 5A
-23 Highland Park-Dal 7 0 0 2.233 (24) 52.23 (33) 52.93 (18) 21.43 (94) 34.45 (155) 4A
-24 Everman 7 0 0 2.222 (25) 51.86 (34) 50.45 (34) 23.53 (60) 30.94 (215) 4A
-25 DeSoto 5 2 0 2.210 (26) 54.80 (23) 58.00 (6) 18.92 (141) 44.84 (27) 5A

3afan
10-23-2007, 08:35 PM
no way Gilmer/Celina in top 20 in TX ..... yes maybe some 3A in some years, but not this year

BILLYFRED0000
10-23-2007, 08:39 PM
Lots of interesting things that you can find at masseys.

Celina (7-0) 0 62.21 (100)
@
Bonham (0-7) 0 0.51 (0)

This format is the percentage chance of each team in it's next game.

2007 Celina Bobcats (7-0)
Celina, TX (Map)

Massey: 70
Offense: 141
Defense: 58
Schedule: 1059
PF-PA: 299-62
Per Game: 42.7-8.9




Remaining Schedule:
E[W] = 2.96
E[L] = 0.04
P[undefeated] = 95.71


Date Opponent Rk W L Result PF PA Note
Fri 10/19/07 Van Alstyne 6092 2 5 W 62 0
Fri 10/12/07 at Pilot Pt 3131 4 3 W 56 6
Fri 10/05/07 Wakeland 708 5 1 W 36 0
Fri 09/28/07 at Princeton 7027 1 6 W 35 6
Fri 09/14/07 at Prestonwood Chr -- 0 0 W 50 17
Fri 09/07/07 Liberty Chr -- 0 0 W 41 27
Fri 08/31/07 vs Robinson 658 4 3 W 19 6
Date Opponent Rk W L Result PF PA Note PWin PPF PPA
Fri 10/26/07 at Bonham 10116 0 7 -- 0 0 100 62.2 0.5
Fri 11/02/07 at Prosper 1489 5 2 -- 0 0 96 35.8 11.5
Fri 11/09/07 Whitesboro 2161 6 1 -- 0 0 100 41.9 6.9
Generated: Oct 23 21:37:41

This is the record to date with predictions for each game remaining on the schedule. These rankings are based on a national scale.

BILLYFRED0000
10-23-2007, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by 3afan
no way Gilmer/Celina in top 20 in TX ..... yes maybe some 3A in some years, but not this year

This is a power ranking system that indicates the relative strength of the teams. It does not factor in such things as depth which makes a difference at the big school level. What it suggests is that Celina would be competitive Not necessarily how it would play out in a playoff system. I do think that Celina and Gilmer would be tops in 4a. Reason being that the coach from Highland Park that won in 05 has good friends in Celina. He followed our team and said that Frankly in 4a we would have had a shot at everybody they played and probably would have made the semi's at least.

JR2004
10-23-2007, 09:16 PM
I agree with where they have La Vega at.

Panther One
10-23-2007, 10:01 PM
Here's the last one from last year. If you click on the individual team pages, it is updated for the DII title games, but the main page isn't.

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=hsf&sub=TX&mid=1&yr=2006#3A

Whoever said LH's defense isn't as good as last year is mistaken. Our defensive ranking improved throughout the playoffs. It moved up to 14 just before the Celina game, which is the ranking we currently have this year. I want to say that we were in the 40's at one point during the season last year. I remember people bringing that up almost weekly as a reason we wouldn't win. We also weren't a top five team in the rankings until later in the playoffs when the teams above us started losing. Overall, they're pretty good, though.

LH Panther Mom
10-24-2007, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by Panther One
Whoever said LH's defense isn't as good as last year is mistaken.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Last year, at this point, our average scores were 46-24, with two losses on the books to very good Cuero and Wimberley teams. This year, the average score is 43-18.

BobcatBenny
10-24-2007, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Last year, at this point, our average scores were 46-24, with two losses on the books to very good Cuero and Wimberley teams. This year, the average score is 43-18.
This is my assessment on Liberty Hill's situation if Rockdale does not make the play-offs. :eek:
http://www.paddlenround.com/img/shark-kayak.jpg

VWG
10-24-2007, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
This is a power ranking system that indicates the relative strength of the teams. It does not factor in such things as depth which makes a difference at the big school level. What it suggests is that Celina would be competitive Not necessarily how it would play out in a playoff system. I do think that Celina and Gilmer would be tops in 4a. Reason being that the coach from Highland Park that won in 05 has good friends in Celina. He followed our team and said that Frankly in 4a we would have had a shot at everybody they played and probably would have made the semi's at least.

I gotta disagree. I think Celina, Gilmer, Liberty Hill, WOS, etc... would be good 4A teams but not "tops in 4A".
Stephenville, Everman, Highland Park, WF Rider, Cove, they have too much depth and too many weapons. They could handle a top notch 3A team with ease.
The step from 3A to 4A is a big step. Even going 4A to 5A is a big step. The speed of the game is something you don't notice until you actually watch a good 4A or 5A team. Look at the rosters also... on a good 4A or 5A team you usually don't see the 155lb to 170lb scrappy kids. I remember watching Keller vs. Grapevine last year. Every kid on Keller's defense was at least 180lbs in the secondary... and Keller was a bad 5A team.

Texasfootball2
10-24-2007, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by VWG
I gotta disagree. I think Celina, Gilmer, Liberty Hill, WOS, etc... would be good 4A teams but not "tops in 4A".
Stephenville, Everman, Highland Park, WF Rider, Cove, they have too much depth and too many weapons. They could handle a top notch 3A team with ease.
The step from 3A to 4A is a big step. Even going 4A to 5A is a big step. The speed of the game is something you don't notice until you actually watch a good 4A or 5A team. Look at the rosters also... on a good 4A or 5A team you usually don't see the 155lb to 170lb scrappy kids. I remember watching Keller vs. Grapevine last year. Every kid on Keller's defense was at least 180lbs in the secondary... and Keller was a bad 5A team.

None of the top five corners in the NFL are over 180 lbs. and Bob Sanders from Indianapolis is only 5'8 190 at saftey.

What matters is speed and heart. Back when MOJO was dominating ever year they were one of the smallest 5A teams in the state.

WOS87
10-24-2007, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by lion75
I'd like to see last years rankings about this time to see how effective this system is. It is definitely intriguing.

They're posted in previous posts right here on the 3adownlow as I used them last year when I was posting playoff bracket predictions...


here's the link to the Week 8 rankings from 2006

Massey Ratings 2006 Week 8 (http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53373)

WOS87
10-24-2007, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by VWG
I gotta disagree. I think Celina, Gilmer, Liberty Hill, WOS, etc... would be good 4A teams but not "tops in 4A".
Stephenville, Everman, Highland Park, WF Rider, Cove, they have too much depth and too many weapons. They could handle a top notch 3A team with ease.
The step from 3A to 4A is a big step. Even going 4A to 5A is a big step. The speed of the game is something you don't notice until you actually watch a good 4A or 5A team. Look at the rosters also... on a good 4A or 5A team you usually don't see the 155lb to 170lb scrappy kids. I remember watching Keller vs. Grapevine last year. Every kid on Keller's defense was at least 180lbs in the secondary... and Keller was a bad 5A team.

I don't know.. I bet some teams would surprise you... WO-S has either been the 4A district champ or beaten the eventual 4A district champ in Southeast Texas 10 out of the past 11 years... if Dayton can win district this year, the streak will continue

old warrior
10-24-2007, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by BobcatBenny
This is my assessment on Liberty Hill's situation if Rockdale does not make the play-offs. :eek:
http://www.paddlenround.com/img/shark-kayak.jpg


why would LH be in trouble if the Rock doesn't make the playoffs?
I don't understand what you're getting at:doh:

WOS87
10-24-2007, 12:33 PM
Liberty Hill will go Division II unless Rockdale or Taylor keep Hutto out of the playoffs... the implication being there will be tougher teams in the Division II playoff bracket.. (i.e. Giddings, La Vega, Caldwell, WO-S, Celina, Cuero, etc.)

LH Panther Mom
10-24-2007, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by old warrior
why would LH be in trouble if the Rock doesn't make the playoffs?
I don't understand what you're getting at:doh:
I can only guess here, but I think he's saying that some DII team will eat us alive. :confused: :confused: Much like they did last season, I think is what he means. :D

old warrior
10-24-2007, 12:49 PM
aaaahhhhh
now I get it

Panther One
10-24-2007, 01:44 PM
Believe me, I know there are plenty in LH who would have enjoyed a potential rematch with a certain team, but all we can do is win games and go where the UIL sends us. We didn't shy away from anyone last year. Why would we this year?

LH Panther Mom
10-24-2007, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Panther One
Believe me, I know there are plenty in LH who would have enjoyed a potential rematch with a certain team, but all we can do is win games and go where the UIL sends us. We didn't shy away from anyone last year. Why would we this year?
:clap: :clap: :kiss: :kiss: Exactly!

lion75
10-24-2007, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000


Here is the top 25 all classifications TX.

Vernon 6 1 0 2.932 (1) 70.53 (1) 62.99 (1) 29.66 (5) 42.53 (50) 5A
-1 Katy 7 0 0 2.787 (2) 67.07 (2) 56.39 (9) 32.81 (3) 41.48 (64) 5A
-2 Arl Bowie 7 0 0 2.734 (3) 64.71 (4) 57.10 (7) 29.74 (4) 41.59 (63) 5A
-3 Euless Trinity 6 1 0 2.706 (4) 65.53 (3) 52.11 (23) 35.54 (1) 49.51 (3) 5A
-4 North Shore 7 0 0 2.551 (5) 60.72 (7) 56.99 (8) 25.86 (37) 34.76 (146) 5A
-5 Allen 7 0 0 2.536 (6) 56.61 (16) 59.10 (4) 19.64 (128) 47.43 (14) 5A
-6 Pflugerville 6 1 0 2.523 (7) 60.31 (9) 56.22 (10) 26.22 (31) 48.57 (7) 5A
-7 Stephenville 7 0 0 2.515 (8) 59.18 (11) 55.83 (11) 25.47 (45) 35.27 (133) 4A
-8 Longview 6 1 0 2.507 (9) 58.99 (12) 52.38 (22) 28.74 (12) 48.41 (8) 5A
-9 Abilene 7 0 0 2.505 (10) 57.96 (15) 52.75 (20) 27.33 (27) 42.77 (46) 5A
-10 Plano 6 1 0 2.501 (11) 61.40 (5) 49.17 (46) 34.35 (2) 45.02 (26) 5A
-11 Southlake Carroll 6 1 0 2.480 (12) 60.77 (6) 59.91 (3) 22.98 (68) 42.42 (53) 5A
-12 Lufkin 6 1 0 2.474 (13) 58.69 (13) 54.61 (15) 26.20 (33) 48.13 (9) 5A
-13 SA Madison 7 1 0 2.456 (14) 60.35 (8) 53.25 (17) 29.22 (7) 41.85 (60) 5A
-14 Klein Oak 7 0 0 2.452 (15) 58.47 (14) 52.92 (19) 27.67 (22) 32.90 (180) 5A
-15 Cypress Ridge 6 1 0 2.428 (16) 59.28 (10) 54.39 (16) 27.01 (28) 41.72 (62) 5A
-16 Martin 7 0 0 2.424 (17) 55.73 (17) 50.33 (36) 27.53 (25) 38.97 (90) 5A
-17 Waco 6 1 0 2.350 (18) 55.71 (18) 48.85 (50) 28.98 (9) 43.77 (35) 4A
-18 Smithson Val 6 1 0 2.300 (19) 55.68 (19) 54.82 (14) 22.99 (67) 40.48 (74) 5A
-19 Gilmer 7 0 0 2.284 (20) 55.45 (21) 58.47 (5) 19.10 (136) 20.06 (361) 3A
-20 Celina 7 0 0 2.279 (21) 55.23 (22) 49.61 (40) 27.75 (21) 23.62 (311) 3A
-21 Cedar Park 5 2 0 2.258 (22) 55.55 (20) 48.99 (49) 28.69 (14) 46.02 (23) 5A
-22 Leander 5 2 0 2.255 (23) 53.97 (24) 49.25 (44) 26.84 (30) 49.27 (4) 5A
-23 Highland Park-Dal 7 0 0 2.233 (24) 52.23 (33) 52.93 (18) 21.43 (94) 34.45 (155) 4A
-24 Everman 7 0 0 2.222 (25) 51.86 (34) 50.45 (34) 23.53 (60) 30.94 (215) 4A
-25 DeSoto 5 2 0 2.210 (26) 54.80 (23) 58.00 (6) 18.92 (141) 44.84 (27) 5A Better

BobcatBenny
10-24-2007, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
:clap: :clap: :kiss: :kiss: Exactly!
You guys just needed to do a little less recruiting and keeping of your enrollment down! :D

Panther One
10-24-2007, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by BobcatBenny
You guys just needed to do a little less recruiting and keeping of your enrollment down! :D
We tried. We had 599 last realignment. We might be the smallest school in DI if it indeed turns out that way. I think the blame has to fall squarely on Hutto and Taylor. I never would have thought that we'd go DI.

BILLYFRED0000
10-24-2007, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by VWG
I gotta disagree. I think Celina, Gilmer, Liberty Hill, WOS, etc... would be good 4A teams but not "tops in 4A".
Stephenville, Everman, Highland Park, WF Rider, Cove, they have too much depth and too many weapons. They could handle a top notch 3A team with ease.
The step from 3A to 4A is a big step. Even going 4A to 5A is a big step. The speed of the game is something you don't notice until you actually watch a good 4A or 5A team. Look at the rosters also... on a good 4A or 5A team you usually don't see the 155lb to 170lb scrappy kids. I remember watching Keller vs. Grapevine last year. Every kid on Keller's defense was at least 180lbs in the secondary... and Keller was a bad 5A team.

I am just repeating what the head coach of the Scots told our guys in 05. You are entitled to your opinion I just value a coaches more that had seen the
teams and knows the situation.

BILLYFRED0000
10-24-2007, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Panther One
We tried. We had 599 last realignment. We might be the smallest school in DI if it indeed turns out that way. I think the blame has to fall squarely on Hutto and Taylor. I never would have thought that we'd go DI.

Isn't that the truth. I would never have thought that Hutto would not be in. But it ain't lookin good right now.

bobcat1
10-24-2007, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
I can only guess here, but I think he's saying that some DII team will eat us alive. :confused: :confused: Much like they did last season, I think is what he means. :D Same but much different this year.:D

bobcat1
10-24-2007, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by Panther One
Believe me, I know there are plenty in LH who would have enjoyed a potential rematch with a certain team, but all we can do is win games and go where the UIL sends us. We didn't shy away from anyone last year. Why would we this year?

Is there anyway anyone knows to play one extra game after the championships?