Possible realignment

[wedo]

Possible realignment for 2008-2010


DIST 25-3A
PALACIOS 476.5
SWEENY 636
WHARTON 688
HITCHCOCK 343
VAN VLECK 338

DIST 24-4A
LA MARQUE 1142
SANTE FE 1320.5
NEEDVILLE 729
WEST COLUMBIA 844
BAY CITY 1258
EL CAMPO 1080
FREEPORT BRAZOSPORT 1117
PORT LAVACA CALHOUN 1123

Needvill and West Columbia in 4a with BC and LM wow!!


http://www.fridaynighthistory.com/mockalign3.html

[3afan]

interesting ...... this has ben out there for a while ... still as Wilmer-Hutchins !!!

6A - or some more radical realignment idea - will happen some day ... but not soon

[LH Panther Mom]

Am I missing something or clicking on the wrong thing? This looks like it's hypothetical from a while back. 535.5 for LH? That's what was turned in 4 years ago. :confused:

[3afan]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
....from a while back. 535.5 for LH? ...


you're OK, calm down ....

[themsu97]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by wedo
[B]Possible realignment for 2008-2010


DIST 25-3A
PALACIOS 476.5
SWEENY 636
WHARTON 688
HITCHCOCK 343
VAN VLECK 338

DIST 24-4A
LA MARQUE 1142
SANTE FE 1320.5
NEEDVILLE 729
WEST COLUMBIA 844
BAY CITY 1258
EL CAMPO 1080
FREEPORT BRAZOSPORT 1117
PORT LAVACA CALHOUN 1123

Needvill and West Columbia in 4a with BC and LM wow!!


sorry wedo... that is never going to happen... whoever put this out is an idiot... there will be no 6A....one they are leaving out Manvel.... which will have smaller #'s that Bay City and Santa Fe... Needville will stay 3a...
this does not account for the new schools that will start in UIL competition next year... hope this is not a pay website

[burnet44]

NEEDVILLE 729
WEST COLUMBIA 844

those are not 4A numbers now
the numbers never go down
needville and WC will stay 3A
if their numbers are below 950?
Last times cutoff number

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by 3afan
you're OK, calm down ....
I just wanted to make sure I was clicking the right thing since it said "2004-2006 possible". It's Friday...long week...I'm easily confused. :D

[Sweetwater Red]

DIST 4-3A
CLYDE 510
MERKEL 417
SWEETWATER 640
TUSCOLA JIM NED 362
SAN ANGELO GRAPE CRK 376


Not in this life time.

[Texasfootball2]

Has anyone heard whether or not they are going to make the districts according to the Div 1 and Div 2 enrollments. I thought they were suppose to vote on this in October.

[Dogman_1969]

DIST 19-3A
CALDWELL 583
CAMERON YOE 486
GIDDINGS 595
ROCKDALE 531
SMITHVILLE 519
ROSEBUT-LOTT 336

District 20-3A
LA GRANGE 637

4A
HUTTO 517 (now over 1200)

I can see this happening with a couple of changes. La Grange will go to the same district 20 making it a 6 team district and Hutto will go 4A leaving the other teams in a 6 team district. The numbers are not correct for enrollments but I can see it happening.

I hear Hutto is over 1200 and Cameron is 408 or so. Rockdale is down a few as well.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Texasfootball2
Has anyone heard whether or not they are going to make the districts according to the Div 1 and Div 2 enrollments. I thought they were suppose to vote on this in October.
From coaches' feedback to the UIL about travel, it's unlikely to happen, at least for all classifications.

[Johnny Utah]

3a districts will be larger in my opinion.

[3afan]

so you are saying there will be more total schools in 3A? or that there will be less districts and more BYE's? or something else? or really nothing? eh?

[Johnny Utah]

More teams in 3a, same number of districts. No more 4 team districts. I bet most will be 6, 7 or 8 team districts. The numbers will have to move somewhat to make it happen, but the UIL changes every 2 years, so it is really no shock to anyone that works at a public school I am sure.

[3afan]

its not that easy - just throwing more teams in 3A will increase the difference in size between the largest and smallest 3A school .... the disparity of which 3A has the biggest among all the classes. thats a bigger problem that small districts ...

[burnet44]

look boys and girls
the numbers wont go down
you are putting people in districts with 2A numbers
and 4A numbers

Rosebud Lott aint going 3A with 336
the cutoff was 415 last time and it aint going down


Grape Ceek and Jim Ned aint going 3A with 362 and 376
Merkel might drop at 417

HITCHCOCK 343 and VAN VLECK 338 aint going 3A with those numbers

NEEDVILLE 729 aint going 4A with that

the numbers WONT GO DOWN
AND IF THEY DID IT WOULDNT BE THAT MUCH
THE CUT OFF FOR 3A LAST TIME WAS 415 TO ABOVE 900

THANK YOU

[Johnny Utah]

3a has always been the toughest to realign. In my opinion, their will be more 3a teams, the same number of districts therefore larger districts. Now, if the UIL goes with D1 and D2 for football, basketball districts will be different than the football districts. Football districts that are D1 may have 5 to 6 schools that have to travel farther. Your basketball districts will have teams that are closer together, no D1 or D2 format. AGain, JMO.

[old warrior]

if the # of 3As increases it will be minimal
the numbers have to stay close for the regions to balance out

look for the bottom to rise from 415 to about 425

[Gobbla2001]

that's from way back in the day, some of those numbers are down, some are up...

[3afan]

Originally posted by old warrior
...the numbers have to stay close for the regions to balance out
...

huh? please elaborate ...

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by 3afan
huh? please elaborate ...

I think he means that the district numbers need to be well balanced across the board so that you don't have unbalanced region (like 60 in region 1, 20 in region 2, 80 in region 3 and 1 in region 4 :D )

[burnet44]

nope
he regions are divided up by 8
8 dist in a reg
4 regions in the state 32 dist

(a while back class A went 16 dist for a bit)

there will be 4 regions
with 8 dist
how many teams in each dist or region the UIL decides
it doesnt have a lot to do with the number of teams in a region
but 8 dist

but 32 and 4 is the frame work

its tough in West Texas where enrollment has dropped so much
realignment is only a population survey anyway

ask Presido all alone

[old warrior]

4 regions
8 districts in each region
32 total districts
those numbers can not change



two years ago they said they are trying to keep as close to 6 teams per district as they can, considering mileage and such

you are not going to see a big influx in 3A teams or any other classification because that may cause some regions to have a signifigant number more schools and they do not want that.
right now region 1 and 4 are the smallest regions in total number of schools that play football
I would think that they are going to try to balance that out a little more
they can easily play with the cutoff numbers, they can't with the number of districts or regions

all just my interpretation of how I read things and my opinion
the only thing I know for sure is that once it all comes out, some people will not be happy
I just hope I'm not one of the unhappy ones

[lostaussie]

i heard we were going 2A.

[3afan]

no way to know that yet

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by burnet44

Merkel might drop at 417


Merkel dropped after the last re-alignment. They aren't very
good in 2A either.

[Ingleside Fan]

Originally posted by lostaussie
i heard we were going 2A.

District 15 Enr.
Gilmer 668.5

You would have to loose alot of kids.
:thinking:

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by Ingleside Fan
District 15 Enr.
Gilmer 668.5

You would have to loose alot of kids.
:thinking: kicked out all females and any males who don't play football:D

[Ingleside Fan]

Originally posted by lostaussie
kicked out all females and any males who don't play football:D

Now thats a Football Program!!!:devil:

[3afan]

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[lostaussie]

Originally posted by Ingleside Fan
Now thats a Football Program!!!:devil: i met a man from ingleside last night up here for a wedding. says he has 300 acres about 50 miles away full of deer. invited me down and i will probably take him up on it>

[Ingleside Fan]

Thats cool! My Mom lives at Holly Lake Ranch. Right down the road from you guys. We will have to get together if you come down.

[87 TIGER]

Originally posted by Dogman_1969
DIST 19-3A
CALDWELL 583
CAMERON YOE 486
GIDDINGS 595
ROCKDALE 531
SMITHVILLE 519
ROSEBUT-LOTT 336

District 20-3A
LA GRANGE 637

4A
HUTTO 517 (now over 1200)

I can see this happening with a couple of changes. La Grange will go to the same district 20 making it a 6 team district and Hutto will go 4A leaving the other teams in a 6 team district. The numbers are not correct for enrollments but I can see it happening.

I hear Hutto is over 1200 and Cameron is 408 or so. Rockdale is down a few as well. Salado is at about 400 with lots moving in from Temple and Belton they could move up to 3A and into our dist.
Hutto is for sure 4A maybe even a big 4A

[Antec]

Im pretty sure Edna will be moving back up to 3A

They have a pretty big freshman class this year

[Snydertigersrul]

Originally posted by Texasfootball2
Has anyone heard whether or not they are going to make the districts according to the Div 1 and Div 2 enrollments. I thought they were suppose to vote on this in October.


It is on the agenda for discussion and probably come to a vote. One of the latest rumoris is that the matter could be tabled for two years.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Originally posted by 3afan
its not that easy - just throwing more teams in 3A will increase the difference in size between the largest and smallest 3A school .... the disparity of which 3A has the biggest among all the classes. thats a bigger problem that small districts ...

You can only put 11 on the field at one time, no matter the disparity.

If you lack depth, you can just shorten the game to 10-minute quarters the way Gilmer's opponent did last week.

[old warrior]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
You can only put 11 on the field at one time, no matter the disparity.

If you lack depth, you can just shorten the game to 10-minute quarters the way Gilmer's opponent did last week.

just the type of comment you would expect from someone in a big 3A school:D

[87 TIGER]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
You can only put 11 on the field at one time, no matter the disparity.

If you lack depth, you can just shorten the game to 10-minute quarters the way Gilmer's opponent did last week. True you can only put 11 on the field, but if you get to choose your 11 from 900 or even over 1000 like Hutto there is a huge difference from selecting your 11 from a school with 475.

We have around 100 kids going out for football, Hutto had 90 go out for freshman alone. We counted 45 on the 7th B and 48 on the 7th A.

Yes you only have 11 on the field, but so does South Lake Carroll.

[Old Tiger]

Rockdale, Cameron, Giddings, Caldwell, Liberty Hill, Taylor

[necks_c/09]

Columbia is below 900 and Needville is below 800 i think so how does that put us in 4a?

[87 TIGER]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Rockdale, Cameron, Giddings, Caldwell, Liberty Hill, Taylor LH to giddings and Caldwell is a pretty good stretch, but it could happen. I think LH will go back to region 4.

Rockdale
Cameron
Caldwell
Giddings

either Taylor, LaGrange, Smithville, Lorena, or Salado

Who knows ?

[Aesculus gilmus]

Originally posted by 87 TIGER
True you can only put 11 on the field, but if you get to choose your 11 from 900 or even over 1000 like Hutto there is a huge difference from selecting your 11 from a school with 475.

We have around 100 kids going out for football, Hutto had 90 go out for freshman alone. We counted 45 on the 7th B and 48 on the 7th A.

Yes you only have 11 on the field, but so does South Lake Carroll.

Gilmer's enrollment right now is around 700, I think. So it's not significantly above average in size for 3A.

The big difference since Traylor has been here has been the participation rate.

When I was a player back in the stone ages, Gilmer was in the second largest class (4A by today's standards; 3A back then), but hardly anyone came out for football. My senior year, we ended the season with 19 players left on the team.

[87 TIGER]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
Gilmer's enrollment right now is around 700, I think. So it's not significantly above average in size for 3A.

The big difference since Traylor has been here has been the participation rate.

When I was a player back in the stone ages, Gilmer was in the second largest class (4A by today's standards; 3A back then), but hardly anyone came out for football. My senior year, we ended the season with 19 players left on the team. 700 is fine, any school should not have to compete with another that is more than double it's size.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by 87 TIGER
LH to giddings and Caldwell is a pretty good stretch, but it could happen. I think LH will go back to region 4.

Rockdale
Cameron
Caldwell
Giddings

either Taylor, LaGrange, Smithville, Lorena, or Salado

Who knows ?

80.64 Miles from LH to Giddings
89.90 miles from LH to Caldwell

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Go Blue
80.64 Miles from LH to Giddings
89.90 miles from LH to Caldwell
Both are closer than several of the Region IV teams in the district with us before the last alignment.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Both are closer than several of the Region IV teams in the district with us before the last alignment. Easy driving dirrections to Giddings also....