The Polls Say - Region III Is Toughest Region

[Milk That Cow]

Five of the Top Ten Schools Are In Region III...

Giddings
Liberty Hill
Waco LaVega
West Orange-Stark
Caldwell

And There is a Good Chance all Five of those Schools are going Division 2...

Class 3A

Team Rec Pts Pvs
1. Giddings (11) 6-0 187 1
2. Liberty Hill (4) 6-0 173 2
3. Celina (3) 6-0 164 3
4. Gilmer (1) 6-0 143 4
5. Royse City (1) 6-0 128 5
6. Graham 7-0 101 6
7. Waco LaVega 6-0 75 7
8. West Orange-Stark 5-1 46 9
9. Abilene Wylie 5-2 30 10
10. Caldwell 6-0 21 -

[Old Tiger]

obviously

[burnet44]

dont be hating lol

[JR2004]

Region III is by far the deepest. After that I'd say Region II (The DII bracket is pretty weak, but the D1 bracket is ridiculous.) and then it's a toss-up between the other two regions.

[Old Tiger]

My regional rankings

1. Region III
2. Region II
3. Region IV
4. Region I

[sweetwater07]

Originally posted by Go Blue
My regional rankings

1. Region III
2. Region II
3. Region IV
4. Region I

thats garbage, everyone knows region I is the toughest by far..:D

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by sweetwater07
thats garbage, everyone knows region I is the toughest by far..:D Ya prior to the '90s :D

[sweetwater07]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Ya prior to the '90s :D


yeah right fool, region I will be the toughest......:D :D

[Stownhorse]

Yea but..."a country boy can survive!"

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by Go Blue
My regional rankings

1. Region III
2. Region II
3. Region IV
4. Region I

Breakdown for Dave Campbell's Tx fb top 25 as of 10/15/2007

Texas Football/State Farm
Class 3A Top 25 Rankings
Rank School Prv Last Week This Week
1 Giddings (6-0) 1 d. La Grange 35-7 at Navasota
2 Celina (6-0) 2 d. Pilot Point 56-6 Van Alstyne
3 Royse City (6-0) 3 d. Community 48-13 Commerce
4 Liberty Hill (6-0) 4 d. Rockdale 37-25 Open
5 Graham (7-0) 5 d. WF Hirschi 52-7 Open
6 Gilmer (6-0) 6 d. Sabine 59-7 at White Oak
7 West Orange-Stark (5-1) 7 d, Hardin-Jefferson 62-0 Silsbee
8 Caldwell (5-0) 9 d. Smithville 49-14 La Grange
9 Abilene Wylie (5-2) 10 d. Clyde 28-27 Open
10 Ingleside (5-1) 11 d. Aransas Pass 24-0 at Mathis
11 Waco La Vega (6-0) 12 d. China Spring 42-13 No. 20 Robinson
12 Cuero (5-2) 15 d. Palacios 51-20 Yoakum
13 Sweetwater (5-2) 14 d. Comanche 35-7 at Clyde
14 Rio Hondo (7-0) 17 d. Progreso 28-0 No. 23 Hidalgo
15 Andrews (6-1) 8 l. to 4A Estacado 30-25 Open
16 Pleasanton (5-2) 19 d. Somerset 40-6 Castroville Medina Valley
17 Burkburnett (6-1) 21 d. Iowa Park 27-3 No. 22 Vernon
18 Kirbyville (5-1) 18 d. Orangefield 49-42 at Hardin-Jefferson
19 Canyon (6-1) NR d. Snyder 24-21 open
20 Robinson (4-2) 20 d. Connally 21-14 at No. 11 Waco La Vega
21 Carthage (4-2) 24 d. Center 34-8 Rusk
22 Vernon (5-1) 22 open at No. 17 Burkburnett
23 Hidalgo (5-1) 23 open at No. 14 Rio Hondo
24 Snyder (5-2) 13 l. to Canyon 24-21 open
25 Dallas Roosevelt (5-1) 25 d. Lake Worth 42-35 at Fort Worth Castleberry

Dropped Out: Prosper

Region- # of teams- Predicted Playoff Brackett

1- 8- 4 Div 1- 4 Div 2

2- 4- 3 Div 1 - 1 Div 2

3- 8- 3 Div 1- 5 Div 2

4- 5- 3 Div 1- 2 Div 2

I know polls are very opinionated but since these people @ Dave Campbells Tx football magazine do this for a living I thing it has some validaty. Region 1 seems have twice as many representatives in the top 25 than Region 2. Can't see this being the weakest region.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Texasfootball2

I know polls are very opinionated but since these people @ Dave Campbells Tx football magazine do this for a living I thing it has some validaty. Region 1 seems have twice as many representatives in the top 25 than Region 2. Can't see this being the weakest region. Even though they do it for a living it's one of the weakest polls in the state IMO. When was the last time Region I had a rep. at the state game?

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Even though they do it for a living it's one of the weakest polls in the state IMO. When was the last time Region I had a rep. at the state game?

I believe Wylie won state in '04. That only three seasons ago and Midland Greenwood was not to long ago either.

[burnet44]

no different than the BCS
just remain unbeaten
but when you start dist people lose
move down in the poll
at least the playoffs decide it
unlike the BCS
someone from each region will win the region
thats the way it is

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by Texasfootball2
Breakdown for Dave Campbell's Tx fb top 25 as of 10/15/2007

Texas Football/State Farm
Class 3A Top 25 Rankings
Rank School Prv Last Week This Week
1 Giddings (6-0) 1 d. La Grange 35-7 at Navasota
2 Celina (6-0) 2 d. Pilot Point 56-6 Van Alstyne
3 Royse City (6-0) 3 d. Community 48-13 Commerce
4 Liberty Hill (6-0) 4 d. Rockdale 37-25 Open
5 Graham (7-0) 5 d. WF Hirschi 52-7 Open
6 Gilmer (6-0) 6 d. Sabine 59-7 at White Oak
7 West Orange-Stark (5-1) 7 d, Hardin-Jefferson 62-0 Silsbee
8 Caldwell (5-0) 9 d. Smithville 49-14 La Grange
9 Abilene Wylie (5-2) 10 d. Clyde 28-27 Open
10 Ingleside (5-1) 11 d. Aransas Pass 24-0 at Mathis
11 Waco La Vega (6-0) 12 d. China Spring 42-13 No. 20 Robinson
12 Cuero (5-2) 15 d. Palacios 51-20 Yoakum
13 Sweetwater (5-2) 14 d. Comanche 35-7 at Clyde
14 Rio Hondo (7-0) 17 d. Progreso 28-0 No. 23 Hidalgo
15 Andrews (6-1) 8 l. to 4A Estacado 30-25 Open
16 Pleasanton (5-2) 19 d. Somerset 40-6 Castroville Medina Valley
17 Burkburnett (6-1) 21 d. Iowa Park 27-3 No. 22 Vernon
18 Kirbyville (5-1) 18 d. Orangefield 49-42 at Hardin-Jefferson
19 Canyon (6-1) NR d. Snyder 24-21 open
20 Robinson (4-2) 20 d. Connally 21-14 at No. 11 Waco La Vega
21 Carthage (4-2) 24 d. Center 34-8 Rusk
22 Vernon (5-1) 22 open at No. 17 Burkburnett
23 Hidalgo (5-1) 23 open at No. 14 Rio Hondo
24 Snyder (5-2) 13 l. to Canyon 24-21 open
25 Dallas Roosevelt (5-1) 25 d. Lake Worth 42-35 at Fort Worth Castleberry

Dropped Out: Prosper

Region- # of teams- Predicted Playoff Brackett

1- 8- 4 Div 1- 4 Div 2

2- 4- 3 Div 1 - 1 Div 2

3- 8- 3 Div 1- 5 Div 2

4- 5- 3 Div 1- 2 Div 2

I know polls are very opinionated but since these people @ Dave Campbells Tx football magazine do this for a living I thing it has some validaty. Region 1 seems have twice as many representatives in the top 25 than Region 2. Can't see this being the weakest region.


Sure is nice to be ranked #13 in the state during a rebuilding
year.:D

[3afan]

Originally posted by Milk That Cow
Five of the Top Ten Schools Are In Region III...

Giddings
Liberty Hill
Waco LaVega
West Orange-Stark
Caldwell

And There is a Good Chance all Five of those Schools are going Division 2...

Class 3A

Team Rec Pts Pvs
1. Giddings (11) 6-0 187 1
2. Liberty Hill (4) 6-0 173 2
3. Celina (3) 6-0 164 3
4. Gilmer (1) 6-0 143 4
5. Royse City (1) 6-0 128 5
6. Graham 7-0 101 6
7. Waco LaVega 6-0 75 7
8. West Orange-Stark 5-1 46 9
9. Abilene Wylie 5-2 30 10
10. Caldwell 6-0 21 -

disagree -- all this says is that five of the top ten schools are in Region III ........... says nothing about which region is the toughest. in order to do that you need to look at the entire region, not the best 1-2-3-4-5 teams

i'm not saying R-III is not the toughest, but basing that solely on the state top 10 is, uh, haphazard

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Even though they do it for a living it's one of the weakest polls in the state IMO. When was the last time Region I had a rep. at the state game?

Why are you even asking that Casey??
You were involved in the same exact discussion not 2 weeks ago!! :rolleyes:

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Why are you even asking that Casey??
You were involved in the same exact discussion not 2 weeks ago!! :rolleyes: Short term memory plus I'm to lazy to look it up

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Short term memory plus I'm to lazy to look it up

If you want to make yourself look dumb....who am I to stop you??


Carry on!!

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
If you want to make yourself look dumb....who am I to stop you??


Carry on!! I wasn't asking to be a smartass though ;). I was asking to find out for personal knowledge

[3afan]

Originally posted by Go Blue
Even though they do it for a living it's one of the weakest polls in the state IMO. When was the last time Region I had a rep. at the state game?

also, whether or not a region is represented in the state title game does little to determine the best region .... all that shows is that they were better than their semifinal opponent

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
If you want to make yourself look dumb....who am I to stop you??


Carry on!!
LMAO! That cracked me up! :D

[necks_c/09]

I take offense to Columbia not bein a rep for Region III

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by necks_c/09
I take offense to Columbia not bein a rep for Region III
Then you should take it up with DCTF or www.texasfootball.com, since WC isn't listed in their top 25. :)

[buff4ever]

Here, I am seldom wrong:

Region 3 is the toughest end of story. Region 1 is not all that tough at all, now this is not to say that the stated contender can't come out of region 1 or even somewhere other than region 3. What it says is that the road to state is tougher in region 3. It is very possible to fight all the way through region 3 and have had 3 extremely competitive football games bang you up and lose to a lesser team and not make it to the state game. I am not saying this has or will happen, I am just helping to explain the definition of tougher region in this discussion.

ANY QUESTIONS?

[GWOOD]

Wouldn't argue against Reg III being the toughest journey to get to the State semifinals. Some of that has to do with sheer #'s:

Reg I - 35 teams
Reg II - 49 teams
Reg III - 51 teams
Reg IV - 39 teams

Throw 12 more teams into Reg IV or 16 more teams into Reg I and it's a lot tougher journey than it is now.

Nevertheless, those are 5 good teams ranked in the top 10.

I guess you could argue that Reg 2 is the toughest since 3 of the Top 5 schools in AP poll are from that region?

[3afan]

yes you can spin the #s any way you want .....

[mistanice]

throw in Diboll who is in III, they are knocking on the door in the polls behind Caldwell. True test for them will come against Crockett and Carthage.

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by Milk That Cow
Five of the Top Ten Schools Are In Region III...

Giddings
Liberty Hill
Waco LaVega
West Orange-Stark
Caldwell

And There is a Good Chance all Five of those Schools are going Division 2...

Class 3A

Team Rec Pts Pvs
1. Giddings (11) 6-0 187 1
2. Liberty Hill (4) 6-0 173 2
3. Celina (3) 6-0 164 3
4. Gilmer (1) 6-0 143 4
5. Royse City (1) 6-0 128 5
6. Graham 7-0 101 6
7. Waco LaVega 6-0 75 7
8. West Orange-Stark 5-1 46 9
9. Abilene Wylie 5-2 30 10
10. Caldwell 6-0 21 - i agree regionIII is by far at this time the toughest all around.......................but i bet, and I'm just guessing that regionII has the most championships in the modern day:D. (I don't know where I came up with that term:thinking:since 1980

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by lostaussie
i agree regionIII is by far at this time the toughest all around.......................but i bet, and I'm just guessing that regionII has the most championships in the modern day:D. (I don't know where I came up with that term:thinking:since 1980 i also must say, that last statement was off the cuff...............and under the influence:D

[buff4ever]

I told you guys/gals that I am seldom wrong, yet you keep arguing.

To the point that said something about 2 teams int he top five making that region tough vs. the 5 in the top 10. Think about it people, with 2 teams in the top five, there is only a chance of you playing that other team in one game on the way to the semi-finals(may or may not happen). When there are 5 in the top ten then you are almost guaranteed or atleast at much more likely chance you will run into 2 or 3 of them on your way to the semi-finals. IS THIS REALLY THIS HARD.

Honestly, I wouldn't complain about it if I were ya'll other region guys/gals. Honestly I know on some level even while you type on this thread, you are telling yourself, "man I am glad we are in this region instead of region 3". I can't blame you, quite frankly I wish giddings were in a different region sometimes, then I remember how much more fun it is to say we are in the toughest region, and it makes it seem more gratifying along the way. SORRY!

[buff4life]

Originally posted by buff4ever
I told you guys/gals that I am seldom wrong, yet you keep arguing.

To the point that said something about 2 teams int he top five making that region tough vs. the 5 in the top 10. Think about it people, with 2 teams in the top five, there is only a chance of you playing that other team in one game on the way to the semi-finals(may or may not happen). When there are 5 in the top ten then you are almost guaranteed or atleast at much more likely chance you will run into 2 or 3 of them on your way to the semi-finals. IS THIS REALLY THIS HARD.

Honestly, I wouldn't complain about it if I were ya'll other region guys/gals. Honestly I know on some level even while you type on this thread, you are telling yourself, "man I am glad we are in this region instead of region 3". I can't blame you, quite frankly I wish giddings were in a different region sometimes, then I remember how much more fun it is to say we are in the toughest region, and it makes it seem more gratifying along the way. SORRY!

your posts are always filled with such knowledge and insight...i love it :D :D :clap: :clap:

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by buff4ever
I told you guys/gals that I am seldom wrong, yet you keep arguing.

To the point that said something about 2 teams int he top five making that region tough vs. the 5 in the top 10. Think about it people, with 2 teams in the top five, there is only a chance of you playing that other team in one game on the way to the semi-finals(may or may not happen). When there are 5 in the top ten then you are almost guaranteed or atleast at much more likely chance you will run into 2 or 3 of them on your way to the semi-finals. IS THIS REALLY THIS HARD.

Honestly, I wouldn't complain about it if I were ya'll other region guys/gals. Honestly I know on some level even while you type on this thread, you are telling yourself, "man I am glad we are in this region instead of region 3". I can't blame you, quite frankly I wish giddings were in a different region sometimes, then I remember how much more fun it is to say we are in the toughest region, and it makes it seem more gratifying along the way. SORRY! True dat....


If WC makes the playoffs.....

region 3 is a meat grinder