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luvhoops34
10-10-2007, 09:07 PM
Bush case break?

By Charles Robinson and Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports
October 9, 2007

The NCAA appears to be on the verge of a major breakthrough in its investigation of Heisman Trophy-winning running back Reggie Bush.

Two sources have told Yahoo! Sports that Lloyd Lake, one of the financiers of failed marketing company New Era Sports & Entertainment, has agreed to meet with NCAA investigators and turn over financial records and other evidence that would tie Bush and his family to nearly $280,000 in extra benefits allegedly taken during Bush's days at USC. Lake – one of two New Era financiers who allegedly delivered cash payments and other benefits to Bush and his family – is preparing to file suit against Bush and his family later this month.

Sources said that Lake's meeting with the NCAA could include discussion of Bush's relationship with New Era Sports – from financial records and receipts to how and when payments were made – and information about other parties who might have had financial involvement with the running back and his family. Such revelations would likely allow the NCAA's slowed investigation to move forward.

Yahoo! Sports has acquired confidential emails from officers of New Era Sports & Entertainment, soliciting marketing and memorabilia deals on the running back's behalf. The emails and other internal memorandums purport ties between Bush, his family and New Era officers Lake and Michael Michaels. Bush settled out of court with Michaels in April for a sum that sources placed between $200,000 and $300,000. The settlement included a confidentiality agreement that barred Michaels from speaking to the NCAA, sources said.

Lake and Bush sat before a mediator in June and attempted to hammer out a settlement, sources said, but that effort apparently was unsuccessful. Lake's legal representation declined to confirm that meeting and also refused to discuss the potential for their client to appear before the NCAA.

"We do not want to discuss the matter," Lake's attorney, Brian Watkins, said.

Calls to Bush's attorney, David Cornwell, were not immediately returned.

Cornwell said in January that he and his clients no longer would be taking part in the "media frenzy" surrounding the running back.

NCAA officials declined to comment on the matter but encouraged anyone with knowledge of the situation to come forward.

Taped conversations between Lake, Bush, Bush's stepfather LaMar Griffin and others starting in December 2005 now could be examined as evidence by the NCAA. Sources have told Yahoo! Sports that those tapes provide proof of a financial relationship between the New Era financiers and Bush's family during his days at USC. The tapes could pave the way for significant penalties for USC and ultimately could lead to Bush losing the Heisman Trophy he won in 2005 when he led USC to the national championship game against Texas.

The conversations also could prove Bush's family started taking money from Michaels and Lake during the 2004 season, when USC went undefeated and won the national championship in a rout of Oklahoma.

Pressure has been growing on the NCAA for months and came to a head recently when the organization struck Oklahoma with multiple penalties stemming from a scandal uncovered before the 2006 season. Oklahoma President David Boren recently praised his school's efforts to clean up its issues and compared it favorably with the lack of fact-finding in the USC case.

Two sources told Yahoo! Sports that attorneys for Lake and Bush have not spoken since the failed settlement attempt in June. However, according to four sources, Bush angered both Lake and Michaels by accusing them of extortion in a recent interview aired Sept. 13 on ESPN's "Outside The Lines."

In that interview, Bush said of the NCAA investigation and his family's alleged impropriety: "For me, I look at it as – and my family looks at it as – extortion. Because these were guys we'd known our whole lives … when I was a freshman in high school, they weren't asking for money. When I was getting older, and then all of the sudden my year with the possibility of me coming out, all this stuff comes out."

According to a source at ESPN, that segment aired despite a threat from Bush's camp that the running back would halt future cooperation with the network if the interview was not pulled.

Sources told Yahoo! Sports following the segment that Bush might have violated his confidentiality clause with Michaels by directing claims of extortion at the New Era financiers. The FBI briefly investigated claims of extortion from Bush's attorney, including interviewing several of Lake's family members and acquaintances before a federal grand jury. After the depositions, a federal source told Yahoo! Sports that the FBI would not be pursuing the extortion claims.

Bush's family allegedly received rent-free living for a year in a home in Spring Valley, Calif. Both Michaels and Lake have claimed the family owes approximately $50,000 in rent on the $757,000 home. Sources also detailed for Yahoo! Sports a litany of cash payments and other benefits allegedly given to the family. Such payments eventually are expected to be revealed during the course of Lake's lawsuit.

Bush, whose family had lived in an apartment before moving into the Spring Valley home, claimed his parents simply "got behind" on rent during his interview with "Outside The Lines."

"It was basically, you know, just my parents, you know, renting a house from a friend of ours, and they got behind on some rent, you know, a couple of months on some rent," Bush said on the segment. "And all of the sudden it's like the media blew up this whole thing – 'Oh, they were living in this house rent free' – which wasn't the case. We rented a house and just like any other family, you know, you get behind on bills. You don't have money; my family isn't rich. We didn't have a lot of money.

"So my parents struggled to pay bills here and there, one of those being rent. I think just like any normal average family, you struggle to pay bills sometimes, and that's all it was. And the media kind of blew it out to kind of make it seem like we were living in this nice gorgeous house – which I never lived there – living in this nice gorgeous house rent free, and it wasn't anything like that."

Watkins and Michaels' attorney, Jordan Cohen, told Yahoo! Sports the family never paid any rent and subsequently was evicted from the home in April 2006.

Updated on Tuesday, Oct 9, 2007 10:47 pm, EDT

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ys-bush100907&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

JJ7997
10-10-2007, 09:18 PM
I hope they take everything from Bush and USC !

burnet44
10-10-2007, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by JJ7997
I hope they take everything from Bush and USC !

me too but I dont see it
water under the bridge
he aint marion Jones
plus USC is a ncaa cash cow
kill the cow
no more cash

probie maybe
a few skins
nutting big

sotxrat
10-10-2007, 09:39 PM
sad but true burnett

bullfrog_alumni_02
10-10-2007, 09:45 PM
atleast strip bush of what is rightfully VY's hardware...

JJ7997
10-10-2007, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by bullfrog_alumni_02
atleast strip bush of what is rightfully VY's hardware...

+1

BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
10-10-2007, 10:00 PM
I for one think it's stupid to take away from an athlete what he did on the field for something that he did off the field that is totally unrelated to what happened on the field of play. None of that other stuff takes away from how many carries, catches, yards, and touchdowns Bush scored on the field, it just makes him out to look like he has poor character and judgment.

Old Tiger
10-10-2007, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
I for one think it's stupid to take away from an athlete what he did on the field for something that he did off the field that is totally unrelated to what happened on the field of play. None of that other stuff takes away from how many carries, catches, yards, and touchdowns Bush scored on the field, it just makes him out to look like he has poor character and judgment. So should athletes be penalized if they smoke a J? By that theory, no.

bullfrog_alumni_02
10-10-2007, 10:04 PM
im not negating bush being and exceptional athlete. but come on...VY was the hottest thing smokin' in that race.passed for over 3k and ran for another 1k...he had a 500 yd offensive game of his own too against okie lite. a much better team than fresno st was that year.

JJ7997
10-10-2007, 10:08 PM
Bush got the Heisman simply because he was at media darling USC. Not because he was even close to the player that Vince was.

Txbroadcaster
10-10-2007, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
I for one think it's stupid to take away from an athlete what he did on the field for something that he did off the field that is totally unrelated to what happened on the field of play. None of that other stuff takes away from how many carries, catches, yards, and touchdowns Bush scored on the field, it just makes him out to look like he has poor character and judgment.


But one of the biggest requirments to win a heisman is the character of the player, so his off field actions are as big as on field

Old Tiger
10-10-2007, 10:11 PM
OJ was stripped of his Heisman because of off the field problems.

JR2004
10-10-2007, 10:12 PM
Read it earlier and here's the thing. If you give Young the Heisman trophy then you'd also have to take away USC's 2004 title against Jokelahoma because allegedly he took money that year as well.

Not only would you give Vince the Heisman, but you'd have to give ZeroU a national title and I sure don't want to see that happen.

Old Tiger
10-10-2007, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by JR2004
Read it earlier and here's the thing. If you give Young the Heisman trophy then you'd also have to take away USC's 2004 title against Jokelahoma because allegedly he took money that year as well.

Not only would you give Vince the Heisman, but you'd have to give ZeroU a national title and I sure don't want to see that happen. But the heralded USC dynasty would be no more ;)


catch22

Txbroadcaster
10-10-2007, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by Go Blue
OJ was stripped of his Heisman because of off the field problems.

no he was not

JJ7997
10-10-2007, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Go Blue
But the heralded USC dynasty would be no more ;)


catch22

Wouldnt disappoint me at all, they were never that impressive anyway if you ask me.

Old Tiger
10-10-2007, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
no he was not well he shoulda been! :mad: :p

LH Panther Mom
10-10-2007, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by Go Blue
well he shoulda been! :mad: :p
Where in the crap did you get that quote in your sig????? :crazy1: :crazy: :crazy1: :crazy: :crazy1:


From the "Things you'll never read on the Downlow" thread?

Old Tiger
10-10-2007, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Where in the crap did you get that quote in your sig????? :crazy1: :crazy: :crazy1: :crazy: :crazy1:


From the "Things you'll never read on the Downlow" thread? i saw it on some post

3afan
10-11-2007, 06:54 AM
uhhmmm, who cares about Reggie Bush? went to school in CA, plays pro in LA, blah

Old Tiger
10-11-2007, 06:55 AM
one of the most overrated players in the league 3afan

3afan
10-11-2007, 07:21 AM
i dont know about that simply 'cause I'm not hearing much about him in any of the shows .... who is overrating him any more?

right now he's an average to above avg NFL back, but great potential obviously ... personally i like watching him, and players with skills like his, play

themsu97
10-11-2007, 08:45 AM
the league ain't talking much about VY either... we just hear alot about him and talk about since he is from here... Bush won the Heisman because he was electric and did things that most people can only imagine doing... he also did not touch the ball on every down like VY, or share the backfield with LinDale White and Matt Leinart and was oh so close to winning 3 titles in a row...
just because some agent gave his parents money has nothing to do with his greatness in college...
other Heisman winners... Ricky Williams? Ron Dayne? Charlie Ward? Gino Toretta?
speaking of though... in ESPN's and whoever greatest players in NCAA history... how is the only two time winner of the Heisman, and back when it actually meant something, only #21? definitely Archie Griffin should be at least in the top 5...