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kaorder1999
09-26-2007, 10:11 PM
that the clock only stops when the ball carrier runs out of bounds on his own. He swore up and down to me that the clock is not to stop when the ball carrier is pushed or tackled out of bounds....

kaorder1999
09-26-2007, 10:11 PM
JV game by the way

mwynn05
09-26-2007, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by kaorder1999
that the clock only stops when the ball carrier runs out of bounds on his own. He swore up and down to me that the clock is not to stop when the ball carrier is pushed or tackled out of bounds.... I think thats right unless its in like the last 2 minutes of the half

kaorder1999
09-26-2007, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by mwynn05
I think thats right unless its in like the last 2 minutes of the half

huh?

Txbroadcaster
09-26-2007, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by mwynn05
I think thats right unless its in like the last 2 minutes of the half

no..only time it does not stop is if the players forward motion is stopped and he is ruled down in the field...if a guy is running and pushed out of bounds, clock stops

BILLYFRED0000
09-26-2007, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by mwynn05
I think thats right unless its in like the last 2 minutes of the half

It comes down to forward progress. If the back is tackled on the sideline and knocked backwards and out of bounds, forward progress is still on the field. If he is hit out of bounds moving forward the clock stops. Or if he runs out of bounds.

kaorder1999
09-26-2007, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
no..only time it does not stop is if the players forward motion is stopped and he is ruled down in the field...if a guy is running and pushed out of bounds, clock stops

yes.....i just said what? Had to have another official correct him. Same crew tonight penalized and charged us a timeout because one of our players jersey's was untucked....

kaorder1999
09-26-2007, 10:17 PM
no...wait....had that backwards....kid ran out of bounds to stop the clock and he told us the clock was to remain running because he was not knocked or pushed out of bounds....

kaorder1999
09-26-2007, 10:17 PM
had no timeouts and needed to stop the clock right before the half

zebrablue2
09-26-2007, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
It comes down to forward progress. If the back is tackled on the sideline and knocked backwards and out of bounds, forward progress is still on the field. If he is hit out of bounds moving forward the clock stops. Or if he runs out of bounds.

that would be correct. judgement by the offical.

JR2004
09-26-2007, 10:22 PM
Gotta love the DFW chapter of officials. :rolleyes:

sinton66
09-26-2007, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by kaorder1999
no...wait....had that backwards....kid ran out of bounds to stop the clock and he told us the clock was to remain running because he was not knocked or pushed out of bounds....

Don't believe that is accurate. PM VAMike and ask him.

burnet44
09-26-2007, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by kaorder1999
that the clock only stops when the ball carrier runs out of bounds on his own. He swore up and down to me that the clock is not to stop when the ball carrier is pushed or tackled out of bounds....

another reason

and they WONDER why people are on their back?

hang in there son
your fighting a lot

mwynn05
09-26-2007, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by kaorder1999
no...wait....had that backwards....kid ran out of bounds to stop the clock and he told us the clock was to remain running because he was not knocked or pushed out of bounds.... thats not right and i might be thinking about the nfl rule

kaorder1999
09-26-2007, 10:28 PM
it doesnt matter how he gets out of bounds...the clock is supposed to stop.

eagles_victory
09-26-2007, 11:04 PM
NFL the clock runs if someone goes out of bounds except for in the last 5 minutes of each half

kaorder1999
09-26-2007, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by eagles_victory
NFL the clock runs if someone goes out of bounds except for in the last 5 minutes of each half

thats not right is it?

eagles_victory
09-26-2007, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by kaorder1999
thats not right is it? yea im about 90% sure well actually its the last 2 minutes of the first half and last 5 minutes of the second half.

mwynn05
09-26-2007, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by eagles_victory
yea im about 90% sure well actually its the last 2 minutes of the first half and last 5 minutes of the second half. thats what i was thinking of

Johnny 5
09-27-2007, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by kaorder1999
it doesnt matter how he gets out of bounds...the clock is supposed to stop. +1.

As long as the ball crosses the big bold out of bounds line before the refs blow the whistle, the clock stops

BILLYFRED0000
09-27-2007, 12:42 AM
By rule the out of bounds stops the clock. Watch any game and you will see the ref wind the clock in bounds and stop the clock out of bounds. Particularly on out routes you will see. They will signal the catch and then cross their arms stopping the clock.

whtfbplaya
09-27-2007, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by kaorder1999
that the clock only stops when the ball carrier runs out of bounds on his own. He swore up and down to me that the clock is not to stop when the ball carrier is pushed or tackled out of bounds....

Kaorder1999 the clock stops when a runner goes out of bounds on his own or is tackled/pushed out of bounds and his forward progress was not deemed to be stoped in the field of play. This is a very touchy call with coaches and many times that a player goes out of bounds the forward progress is deemed to have stoped inbounds and thus the clock running.

CenTexSports
09-27-2007, 07:15 AM
In sub varsity it will depend on if the home team needs extra time, if the game is out of hand, if the coach on that sideline has been giving you grief all night, what kind of mood the official is in, and does the official have plans after the game. (j/k)

The unofficial job for sub varsity officials is:
1) Don't let anybody get hurt.
2) Keep the clock running
3) Be fair

Crow22
09-27-2007, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by eagles_victory
yea im about 90% sure well actually its the last 2 minutes of the first half and last 5 minutes of the second half.

You couldn't be more wrong or confused.

coach
09-27-2007, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by mwynn05
I think thats right unless its in like the last 2 minutes of the half

i think that must be nfl bc i thought the same thing

VAMike
09-27-2007, 09:43 AM
As others have correctly stated, it comes down to forward progress in the case of a player who is contacted by a defender. If the runner goes out on his own accord the clock MUST stop. That interp given in this thread taht it will not stop if he goes out on his own is VERY wrong.

And the NFL does have some very very different timing rules

Txbroadcaster
09-27-2007, 09:46 AM
The NFL does not run the game clock..but the PLAY clock...used to be the player went out of bounds and the ref did not start the play clock until everyone was in the huddle

Now with the 45 second play clock, they start as soon as ball is set
at least that is how i understand it

whtfbplaya
09-27-2007, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
The NFL does not run the game clock..but the PLAY clock...used to be the player went out of bounds and the ref did not start the play clock until everyone was in the huddle

Now with the 45 second play clock, they start as soon as ball is set
at least that is how i understand it

It starts in the nfl when the previous play is dead on normal plays.

eagles_victory
09-27-2007, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by Crow22
You couldn't be more wrong or confused. im talking about the nfl

eagles_victory
09-27-2007, 12:14 PM
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/timing

check out rule 8 i think thats what its saying but im not sure its kind of worded confusingly

VAMike
09-29-2007, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster


Now with the 45 second play clock, they start as soon as ball is set
at least that is how i understand it

NFL is using a 40 second play clock now. Allegedly the NCAA will start using the same next year. (That is why you see so many college conferences with refs now raising an open hand in the air when the ball becomes dead. That is the signal to start the 40 sec clock)

I suspect there will be a UIL exception if it would mean schools being required to buy new clocks in order to accomodate the change.