Region I GotW (Week 4): Clyde (3-1) @ Vernon (4-0)

[KTA]

whos going to win?

[Cameron Crazy]

the winner.

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by Cameron Crazy
the winner. i thought it was the person who scores more:D

[KTA]

Im going to say Clyde in a close game

[grmfan93]

i agree

[PlayaJBiehl20]

i have to agree i have clyde

[Cameron Crazy]

Clyde has to play some smash mouth football to win this one.

[KTA]

they played pretty well against Graham...and Vernon almost lost to a not so good Decatur team. I expect this one to be a great game to watch.

[Keith7]

Should be a good one

[Cameron Crazy]

Yes, I want Clyde to win, but Vernon will not be stopped

[PlayaJBiehl20]

CLYDE IN THE UPSET!! They'll be playin in "The JUNGLE" as lion 75 put it.

[KTA]

im not trying to step on anybodys toes, but

1 I thought if we made a suggestion on a game, if it was choosen yall would select it and make it the choice

well http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70793

and 2 if your just trying to spite me, atleast I made mine a poll

have a good evening

[KTA]

just bringing it back up top

[burnet44]

Originally posted by KTA
Im going to say Clyde in a close game

considering the history of the schools
Id sau Vernon by a lot
but my man KTA said Clyde
it would be a big win for them

[KTA]

Everybody keeps knocking Clyde for there schedule, but what has Vernon done that is impressive?

They beat Altus OK (which they usually do every year)

they BARELY beat Midland Christian in OT (could of lost the game but the extra point attempt was muffed, and they threw it in the end zone for 2 points...kind of lucky if anything)

They beat a sorry Mineral Wells team (1-2)

And they won a squeaker in Decatur (1-3)

Now please tell me which one of these games is against a hard opponent

[wildstangs]

Vernon beat tougher teams. Clyde's wins are against weak, smaller competition. Not saying Clyde isn't good - but they have done this several years in a row. They go 5-2 or 6-1 in non district, then fold up. The next two weeks will tell us a lot about Clyde.

[KTA]

Vernon beat tougher teams.

Yeah but atleast Clyde dominated the weaker teams (as they should)...there only loss being to Graham (by 12)

You dont think Clyde could beat Decatur, especially the way SW beat them down...please

[burnet44]

Clyde beat us when I was at Hamlin
they didnt make the playoffs
we went 2 rounds
go figure

[wildstangs]

Originally posted by KTA
Yeah but atleast Clyde dominated the weaker teams (as they should)...there only loss being to Graham (by 12)

You dont think Clyde could beat Decatur, especially the way SW beat them down...please

I would pick Decatur over Clyde...Again, I just can't believe in Clyde until they beat some better competition. Like I said, they have whipped up on 2A schools for years, and then stumbled in district. They might prove me wrong, but until they beat some tougher teams I will pick against them.

[Keith7]

oops I forgot to put a poll on here

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Keith7
oops I forgot to put a poll on here

I merged the two threads since KTA's poll needed to be included!!

[KTA]

appreciate it RM ;)

[KTA]

Like I said, they have whipped up on 2A schools for years

Fooled me

2005

Date Opponent Site Score
08/26/2005 Ballinger (3-2A) lost: 7-21 2A team beat them
09/02/2005 @ Breckenridge (5-3A) lost: 13-34
09/09/2005 @ Bangs (3-2A) lost: 21-34 see ballenger
09/16/2005 Brady (27-3A) won: 35-6
09/23/2005 Coahoma (4-2A) won: 31-7
09/30/2005 @ Vernon (5-3A) lost: 21-27OT barely lost to a playoff Vernon team
10/07/2005 Snyder (4-3A) lost: 6-42
10/21/2005 @ Sweetwater (4-3A) lost: 13-20 not bad considering SW lost only 2 games (13-2)
10/28/2005 Merkel (4-3A) won: 36-14
11/04/2005 @ Abilene Wylie (4-3A) lost: 7-38

2006

Date Opponent Site Score
09/01/2006 Ballinger (6-2A) won: 31-6
09/08/2006 @ Graham (6-3A) won: 18-14 Graham went 3 rds deep
09/15/2006 @ Early (6-2A) lost: 6-23 they sure crushed Early
09/22/2006 Bangs (6-2A) won: 34-20
09/29/2006 Vernon (6-3A) lost: 25-36 not bad considering Vernon went 5 rounds deep
10/06/2006 @ Burkburnett (6-3A) lost: 6-30
10/13/2006 Abilene Wylie (7-3A) lost: 7-43
10/20/2006 @ Sweetwater (7-3A) lost: 20-48
10/27/2006 Breckenridge (7-3A) won: 32-31
11/03/2006 @ Comanche (7-3A) won: 23-21
11/18/2006 @ Sanger (8-3A) lost: 22-49 atleast they made the playoffs

Yeah they have just walloped the 2A's, and been DESTROYED by the 3A's :rolleyes:

[lakers]

Yeah i am expecting a very good game this week. Clyde always manages to play Vernon very tough. In '05 it was a marathon game that finally ended after midnight due to lightening delays. And in '06 it came down to the wire, Vernon had one heck of a team last year.
And the thing about 2a teams, Clyde really is just playing schools that are actually their size. There current #'s are barely over the 3a mark. So they might not remain 3a long, after all there is only 3000 people that live in the town.

I think they can beat Vernon in a shoot-out...

[KingRob]

I'm going to go with Vernon.

Vernon - 31
Clyde - 27

[PlayaJBiehl20]

Originally posted by lakers
Yeah i am expecting a very good game this week. Clyde always manages to play Vernon very tough. In '05 it was a marathon game that finally ended after midnight due to lightening delays. And in '06 it came down to the wire, Vernon had one heck of a team last year.
And the thing about 2a teams, Clyde really is just playing schools that are actually their size. There current #'s are barely over the 3a mark. So they might not remain 3a long, after all there is only 3000 people that live in the town.

I think they can beat Vernon in a shoot-out...
Its not going to be a shoot-out, both teams play smash mouth football. at most they'll have 60 between them.

[Sweetwater Red]

10/21/2005 @ Sweetwater (4-3A) lost: 13-20 not bad considering SW lost only 2 games (13-2)

If we would have lost this game we would have missed the
play-offs altogether. Wylie and Snyder would have one district
loss and Clyde and Sweetwater would have two. Clyde would
have had the head to head tie breaker obviously. Clyde had the
ball with a few minutes left at our 40. We held them on fourth
down and ran out the clock. That's how close this game was.

[Dominicfrank]

Vernon did NOT look good against Decatur's spread offense. If Clyde has a spread offense then Clyde can win this game. I don't think they even call pass plays so I think Vernon rolls 34-14.

[lakers]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
10/21/2005 @ Sweetwater (4-3A) lost: 13-20 not bad considering SW lost only 2 games (13-2)

If we would have lost this game we would have missed the
play-offs altogether. Wylie and Snyder would have one district
loss and Clyde and Sweetwater would have two. Clyde would
have had the head to head tie breaker obviously. Clyde had the
ball with a few minutes left at our 40. We held them on fourth
down and ran out the clock. That's how close this game was. I remember that game...Sweetwater scored all their points in the first half, then got shut down in the second half...It was one hell of a game...The players earned a lot of respect for each other. Clyde got one of those "inspirational" speeches from coach Kent Jackson and Sweetwater's former coach Tom Ritchey, who is one of our coaches dad's.

[Johnny Moxen]

I say (along with others in this thread) that Vernon will will this game. Clyde has some talent however to me they have too many things to over come and until they do so will continue to get beat by most 3A teams.

Lack of winning tradition (especially in the big games)
Offense is too one dimensional
Lack of depth
Lack of over-all talent

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by lakers
I remember that game...Sweetwater scored all their points in the first half, then got shut down in the second half...It was one hell of a game...The players earned a lot of respect for each other. Clyde got one of those "inspirational" speeches from coach Kent Jackson and Sweetwater's former coach Tom Ritchey, who is one of our coaches dad's.

Is David Ritchey still the OC?

[Z motion 10 out on 2]

Like one poster said, Clyde has played Vernon tough in the past several meetings. I remember Cylde having some sucess in the air agsinst Vernon in previous games. I'm sure that the Lions although favored to win this game will not take it lightly. Clyde has build respect with the Lions due to their never quit play. Some of these meetings have gone right down to the wire. This should be a good game and we will see exactly where Clyde is on the 3A map.

Now all the action will be at half time though when Z Motion 10 out on 2 will escort his senior cheerleader daughter as a homecoming queen nominee!!! Congrats Whitney I wish you luck and I'm so excited to walk you out on the field!!!!

Go Whitney & Go Lions!

Z~

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Z motion 10 out on 2


Now all the action will be at half time though when Z Motion 10 out on 2 will escort his senior cheerleader daughter as a homecoming queen nominee!!! Congrats Whitney I wish you luck and I'm so excited to walk you out on the field!!!!

Go Whitney & Go Lions!

Z~

Awwwww!!

Best of luck to Whitney!!!

[KTA]

Now all the action will be at half time though when Z Motion 10 out on 2 will escort his senior cheerleader daughter as a homecoming queen nominee!!!

Congrats Z :thumbsup:








Now on to another topic......Yall think Clyde is going to come in hyped since Vernon decided to schedule them for homecoming?

[lakers]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Is David Ritchey still the OC?
Yeah he is still the oc...
Gotta luv that guy, he is so cool, I would love to have played for his dad... He might even have little Ritchey's on the way. haha

[lakers]

Originally posted by Z motion 10 out on 2
Like one poster said, Clyde has played Vernon tough in the past several meetings. I remember Cylde having some sucess in the air agsinst Vernon in previous games. I'm sure that the Lions although favored to win this game will not take it lightly. Clyde has build respect with the Lions due to their never quit play. Some of these meetings have gone right down to the wire. This should be a good game and we will see exactly where Clyde is on the 3A map.

Now all the action will be at half time though when Z Motion 10 out on 2 will escort his senior cheerleader daughter as a homecoming queen nominee!!! Congrats Whitney I wish you luck and I'm so excited to walk you out on the field!!!!

Go Whitney & Go Lions!

Z~
I agree...well put Z motion 10 out on 2, I all noticed that it is always a homecoming game between the 2 teams...huh

[lakers]

Originally posted by KTA
Congrats Z :thumbsup:








Now on to another topic......Yall think Clyde is going to come in hyped since Vernon decided to schedule them for homecoming?
Yeah i think they will. 2 years ago it was Vernon's homecoming and last year it was Clyde's homecoming between these 2 teams. So their is always a little more motivation in this game.

[VWG]

I just want to know how this got to be game of the week.
Glen Rose - Decatur, Abilene Wylie - Frenship, Graham - Monahans
and the downlow picks Clyde - Vernon?
And.... I am not downplaying Vernon. They should roll Clyde.

[wildstangs]

So since 2005, Clyde is 5-11 against 3A competition, and 6-3 against 2A schools.

In 3A they have beaten Brady, Merkel, Graham, Comanche, and Breckenridge. Not great teams.

Against 2A schools, they are only batting about 66%, and that is due to the fact that three of their six wins came this year.

Like I said, Clyde might do fine this year, but I wont be impressed until they beat Wylie and/or Sweetwater and win a playoff game.

Just curious - Do you know their results from 2001 - 2004?

[lakers]

Originally posted by wildstangs
So since 2005, Clyde is 5-11 against 3A competition, and 6-3 against 2A schools.

In 3A they have beaten Brady, Merkel, Graham, Comanche, and Breckenridge. Not great teams.

Against 2A schools, they are only batting about 66%, and that is due to the fact that three of their six wins came this year.

Like I said, Clyde might do fine this year, but I wont be impressed until they beat Wylie and/or Sweetwater and win a playoff game.

Just curious - Do you know their results from 2001 - 2004?
In '03 they were decent but all the others years they were pretty bad...

[KTA]

In 3A they have beaten Brady, Merkel, Graham, Comanche, and Breckenridge. Not great teams.

Graham went 3 rds deep, how can you say there were not a good team?

Im trying to find the scores from 01-04......give me a few

[KTA]

can somebody go down to Clyde's link and get it to open, it wont open for me

http://www.3adownlow.com/historyregI.php

[westcoast54]

All I'm going to say is Vernon is GOOD. Don't know much about Clyde.

[wildstangs]

Originally posted by KTA
Graham went 3 rds deep, how can you say there were not a good team?

Im trying to find the scores from 01-04......give me a few

Uhmmm....whats the old saying, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then? :)

Actually, I meant to say that MOST of those teams werent that good, i.e. Merkel, Comanche, and Brady. I would also argue that Graham would have rolled Clyde near the end of the year when McCoy was clicking.

[KTA]

im just going to say if Clyde does indeed lose, it will be suprising to me

[lakers]

Originally posted by KTA
can somebody go down to Clyde's link and get it to open, it wont open for me

http://www.3adownlow.com/historyregI.php
'01~ 1-9
'02~ 5-5
'03~ 5-5
'04~ 3-7
'05~ 3-7
'06~ 5-6
Well there u go, clyde's record since '01

[KTA]

appreciate it ;), but I would like to see who they won and lost to....ya know. Reguardless this has nothing to do with THIS team

[snydertiger2010]

im pullin on vernon for this one, because clyde really isnt that good, but vernon hasnt played any good teams this year, or not really, and clyde has just been lokkin good playin 2a teams. maybe i dont know, hopefully it will be a good game.


Snyder Tigers

[lakers]

Originally posted by KTA
appreciate it ;), but I would like to see who they won and lost to....ya know. Reguardless this has nothing to do with THIS team
http://members.aol.com/cboehme/thsf/clyde87-06.gif

[lakers]

there u have it, i didnt want to write it all out...

[KTA]

hey thats coming in BIG, appreciate it man :D :clap:

I tried opening it up earlier, but it wouldnt do it for me for some odd reason

[KTA]

well they beat Wylie in 03 if that counts for anything :p

[lakers]

Originally posted by KTA
hey thats coming in BIG, appreciate it man :D :clap:

I tried opening it up earlier, but it wouldnt do it for me for some odd reason
no problem man, i went way out on the limb and got results from 1987. lol :)

[KTA]

hey in 89 they were pretty decent lol

[lakers]

Originally posted by KTA
hey in 89 they were pretty decent lol
No kiddin, but that was the year that i was born. :D
Maybe in the next decade they will have a winning season...

[PlayaJBiehl20]

Originally posted by lakers
No kiddin, but that was the year that i was born. :D
Maybe in the next decade they will have a winning season...

Next decade huh

[lakers]

Originally posted by PlayaJBiehl20
Next decade huh
Yeah it means from 2007-2017. duh. jk
Hopefully it will be this year :)

[PlayaJBiehl20]

Where are you from?

[lakers]

Originally posted by PlayaJBiehl20
Where are you from?
the same place u r from.

[lion75]

Originally posted by KTA
Everybody keeps knocking Clyde for there schedule, but what has Vernon done that is impressive?

They beat Altus OK (which they usually do every year)

they BARELY beat Midland Christian in OT (could of lost the game but the extra point attempt was muffed, and they threw it in the end zone for 2 points...kind of lucky if anything)

They beat a sorry Mineral Wells team (1-2)

And they won a squeaker in Decatur (1-3)

Now please tell me which one of these games is against a hard opponent Vernon was 1-3 last year vs. that schedule and still made the semifinals. To some degree you are right. As a Vernon fan that undestands that we have more size, speed, and overall talent than last years semifinal team, it has been a little bit less than they could have shown. But if you have been to any of their games, you would see an extremely talented team that has made a ton of mistakes, such as turnovers and penalties, which Vernon does every year early. As the season moves forward, Vernon will continue to improve and possibly make a deep run in the playoffs and Graham will probably fade down the stretch like they always have.

[lakers]

ouch somebody get the steers a band-aid...

[KTA]

Graham will probably fade down the stretch like they always have.

Excuse me? Did you not see how Graham turned things around towards the end of the year?

Also didnt we beat yall last year?

11/03/2006 Graham (6-3A) lost: 7-14

Ok then, we couldnt of been TOO horrible towards the end of the season

[Z motion 10 out on 2]

Originally posted by KTA
Excuse me? Did you not see how Graham turned things around towards the end of the year?

Also didnt we beat yall last year?

11/03/2006 Graham (6-3A) lost: 7-14

Ok then, we couldnt of been TOO horrible towards the end of the season

Graham has a history of losing 1st round games. Maybe that is what they meant. The Steers had a great run last year -- no doubt and Vernon will have a heck of a game with the Steers this year. I can't wait.

[lakers]

true true, but i am ready to see the clyde vernon game.

[KTA]

Graham has a history of losing 1st round games

*Under David Bourquin




New Coach, New attitude

[lion75]

Originally posted by KTA
Excuse me? Did you not see how Graham turned things around towards the end of the year?

Also didnt we beat yall last year?

11/03/2006 Graham (6-3A) lost: 7-14

Ok then, we couldnt of been TOO horrible towards the end of the season In Vernon, "down the stretch" means games 11-16. Since 87', Grahams playoff record is 7-11 and they have missed the playoffs 10 times. Furthermore, they have never even been to the quarterfinals. For them to win area, is tying a school record. Vernon,however has a playoff record since 87' of 32-16. They have also been to the semifinals six times, the state championship twice, and had a 16-0 State Championship. So we don't get too excited about all of this regular season rhetoric.

[lakers]

well u should get excited, cause IT IS WEST TEXAS FOOTBALL BABY!!! nothin is better. :)

[KTA]

wow a 2 point win over Decatur sure does get yalls grease hot huh? So do all those victorys over the years count for this years team? Ok then!

[lion75]

Originally posted by lakers
true true, but i am ready to see the clyde vernon game. Vernon may even lose to Clyde. If they do, so what. We drop in the rankings? Big Deal. Vernon entered the post season ranked 53rd last year and thrashed their way through Region 1, going farther than Graham has ever gone in the history of their school. Vernon's coaches take the regular season seriously. They're serious about putting as little on film as possible while trying to win. They know these game films will be used for preparation in the playoffs. Graham or Clyde will pull out all the stops to beat a team like Vernon. Honestly, we want to beat you too, but Clyde's just a non district game and Graham is more important, but the real season is later.

[lion75]

Originally posted by KTA
So do all those victorys over the years count for this years team? I'm not just talking about over the years. In the last 11 months we have advanced farther in the playoffs than Graham EVER has.

[KTA]

what has THIS TEAM done, compaired to Graham THIS YEAR?

Midland Greenwood went further into the playoffs then we did, but we all seen how that turned out.

Lets see how the strength of schedule has worked out so far

Vernon

Altus (ok) 0-4
Midland Christian 1-2
Mineral Wells 1-2
Decatur 1-3

Overall 3-11

Graham

Midland Greenwood 3-1
Clyde 3-1
Abilene Wylie 2-2
Glen Rose 2-2

Overall 10-6

Im ready to see how yall fair against Clyde, and how the Glen Rose/Decatur game turns out.

Oh yeah, you need to be worried about THIS years team, and not last years. Oh yeah FYI the last 8 times we have played yall, you guys have came away with ONE victory....but like I said the PAST does NOT matter.

[Roll'em up]

I have seen vernon play this season as well as some of the other teams mentioned here. However, I have not seen Clyde, so I can't comment on them. Vernon is much better this year than they were a year ago. They did lose a great talent in Whiteside, but the 4 in the backfield this year may be one of the best groups I have seen from Vernon in many years. QB, TB, FB, and WB can really run.
I have seen Burk, IP, Vernon, and Graham this season and Vernon's speed and physical play impressed me more than that of the others. I expect them to beat Clyde and to go on and play in a district that should be decided by the Graham/Vernon game.

[KTA]

what games did you go watch?

[lion75]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by KTA
[B]what has THIS TEAM done, compaired to Graham THIS YEAR?

Nothing. They're both 4-0. I didn't say they had done more. They've both done what they needed to do. But don't just compare opposing teams records. Also mention the fact that Vernon has played a 5A, a 4A, and a defending state champ.

[lion75]

Originally posted by KTA
[

Oh yeah, you need to be worried about THIS years team[/B] No, I don't need to be worried about anything.

[KTA]

Also mention the fact that Vernon has played a 5A, a 4A, and a defending state champ.

Are you serious?

5A? who.....Oh wait you mean in OKLAHOMA, yeah we all know what kinda powerhouse they are in football. They are 0-4 at that!!!

4A, oh you mean 1-2 Mineral Wells, are you REALLY braging about beating Mineral Wells?.....seriously?

Defending state Champion? OOOOOHH yeah, you mean Division 2 PRIVATE SCHOOL champion. Yeah they play REAL Texas football in the private schools rankings dont they? How have they faired against class 3A so far 1-2. They are ranked #10 in private school rankings with a 1-2 record....I wouldnt be braging about this win either http://www.txprivatesports.com/footballrankings.html

Lets see what Graham has done (since you want to play this game)

We beat a Midland Greenwood team who went 4 rds deep in TEXAS class 3A playoffs, who also has beat 2 TEXAS 4A teams.

We beat Clyde who has been beating up 2A teams, and made the playoffs last year in class 3A.

We beat Abilene Wylie who has been playing good football with a 2-2 record barely losing to a undefeated class 4A Brownwood (by 7), and losing to state ranked Graham by six. They also thumped Class 4A Big Springs 61-14........oh yeah they murdered IP but that really dont count for anything. (oh yeah they went 2 rds deep last year in class 3A playoffs)

We have also beat Glen Rose who is sitting at 2-2 in class 3A with there only losses coming from undefeated Graham, and undefeated China Springs. Glen Rose is also coming off a playoff apperance themselves.

So please do NOT try to compare schedules, because obviously you have left some things out (hmmm I wonder why).

[mudcat]

http://www.tsrnsports.com/Broadcast/Broad-clyde.htm

[lion75]

Originally posted by KTA
Also mention the fact that Vernon has played a 5A, a 4A, and a defending state champ.

Are you serious?

5A? who.....Oh wait you mean in OKLAHOMA, yeah we all know what kinda powerhouse they are in football. They are 0-4 at that!!!

4A, oh you mean 1-2 Mineral Wells, are you REALLY braging about beating Mineral Wells?.....seriously?

Defending state Champion? OOOOOHH yeah, you mean Division 2 PRIVATE SCHOOL champion. Yeah they play REAL Texas football in the private schools rankings dont they? How have they faired against class 3A so far 1-2. They are ranked #10 in private school rankings with a 1-2 record....I wouldnt be braging about this win either http://www.txprivatesports.com/footballrankings.html

Lets see what Graham has done (since you want to play this game)

We beat a Midland Greenwood team who went 4 rds deep in TEXAS class 3A playoffs, who also has beat 2 TEXAS 4A teams.

We beat Clyde who has been beating up 2A teams, and made the playoffs last year in class 3A.

We beat Abilene Wylie who has been playing good football with a 2-2 record barely losing to a undefeated class 4A Brownwood (by 7), and losing to state ranked Graham by six. They also thumped Class 4A Big Springs 61-14........oh yeah they murdered IP but that really dont count for anything. (oh yeah they went 2 rds deep last year in class 3A playoffs)

We have also beat Glen Rose who is sitting at 2-2 in class 3A with there only losses coming from undefeated Graham, and undefeated China Springs. Glen Rose is also coming off a playoff apperance themselves.

So please do NOT try to compare schedules, because obviously you have left some things out (hmmm I wonder why). You said that I want to play this game. How ridiculous. To say that I'm the one that is trying to use a comparison of schedules to measure each team at this point in the season. You are the one that has been trying to play this little game of schedule comparison and are the one that started it several posts ago. Frankly, I don't care who Graham has played and beaten or Vernon either. At this point it just doesn't matter. Only the playoffs matter. But, oh, we're not allowed to talk about past playoff successes, The only reason you revert to that argument is because Graham doesn't have any past playoff success to speak of. If we can't be proud of our teams past accomplishments then why should they even bother to play?

[KTA]

You said that I want to play this game. How ridiculous. To say that I'm the one that is trying to use a comparison of schedules to measure each team at this point in the season. You are the one that has been trying to play this little game of schedule comparison and are the one that started it several posts ago. Frankly, I don't care who Graham has played and beaten or Vernon either. At this point it just doesn't matter. Only the playoffs matter. But, oh, we're not allowed to talk about past playoff successes, The only reason you revert to that argument is because Graham doesn't have any past playoff success to speak of. If we can't be proud of our teams past accomplishments then why should they even bother to play?

HOW REDICULAS?? PLEASE!!!! Seems that you keep on coming up with excuse after excuse after excuse. First Vernon is going to win this game because Clyde hasnt played anybody besides 2a teams, then they are going to win it off the past kazillion years of playoff history Vernon has, then it was look who they played "5A" "MW" and a "State Champ".......YOUR PATHETIC! Everytime I shot you down, you have some other raggedy excuse, and then try to cover it up with a "we only care about playoffs" or "look at last year". So let me get this right, Graham's 3rd round exit isnt something to be proud of?.....I'd like you to tell those kids from graham who exited the playoffs in the 1st rd that it wasnt that big of a deal. So what's this crock of bullcrap your trying to feed us about "if we cant be proud of our teams past accomplishments then why should they even bother to play?" TO WIN GAMES THIS YEAR, THATS WHY THEY PLAY. You dont think teams sit around after a loss and talk about the state championship that was won back in 1991 do you? If Celina dont win another state title, do you think they are going to celebrate it 20 years later? NO...why you ask, because they are going to go back out there every year to try to regain another title. Just because you have past playoff history, that doesnt guarentee anything for the following season. You talk about "I dont care who vernon has played" then why in the H E double hockey stick did you have to mention they played "a 5A, 4A and a state champion". Your pathetic and not even worth my time anymore...im done next thread please

[VERNONLION#1]

Originally posted by KTA
HOW REDICULAS?? PLEASE!!!! Seems that you keep on coming up with excuse after excuse after excuse. First Vernon is going to win this game because Clyde hasnt played anybody besides 2a teams, then they are going to win it off the past kazillion years of playoff history Vernon has, then it was look who they played "5A" "MW" and a "State Champ".......YOUR PATHETIC! Everytime I shot you down, you have some other raggedy excuse, and then try to cover it up with a "we only care about playoffs" or "look at last year". So let me get this right, Graham's 3rd round exit isnt something to be proud of?.....I'd like you to tell those kids from graham who exited the playoffs in the 1st rd that it wasnt that big of a deal. So what's this crock of bullcrap your trying to feed us about "if we cant be proud of our teams past accomplishments then why should they even bother to play?" TO WIN GAMES THIS YEAR, THATS WHY THEY PLAY. You dont think teams sit around after a loss and talk about the state championship that was won back in 1991 do you? If Celina dont win another state title, do you think they are going to celebrate it 20 years later? NO...why you ask, because they are going to go back out there every year to try to regain another title. Just because you have past playoff history, that doesnt guarentee anything for the following season. You talk about "I dont care who vernon has played" then why in the H E double hockey stick did you have to mention they played "a 5A, 4A and a state champion". Your pathetic and not even worth my time anymore...im done next thread please

GRAHAM IS GOOD! WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE.

[Snyder_TigerFan]

You'd think Vernon and Graham were playing this week. What's wrong with you people, hijacking a thread. I thought only Snyder and Sweetwater were suppose to do that.;)

BTW, Vernon beats Clyde.

[Z motion 10 out on 2]

Glad to see the Graham - Vernon rivalry back up to speed!

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
You'd think Vernon and Graham were playing this week. What's wrong with you people, hijacking a thread. I thought only Snyder and Sweetwater were suppose to do that.;)

BTW, Vernon beats Clyde.

Unfortunately no one screams HI-JACK ALERT unless it is Sweetwater
and Snyder.:rolleyes:

I want Clyde to win but I think Vernon will.

[Dominicfrank]

Vernon and Graham have a good rivalery that is given. I personally hate the former coach and glad to see he is out of there. Vernon has not really proven itself against Graham over the past years when a win would have got them out of last game must wins to even get in the playoffs. I think any who reads these two go back and forth need to realize that once the playoffs start everyone from the district becomes fans of all three playoff teams. Graham made a great run last year with a Freshman QB and I think they get at least two rounds deep thsi year. Vernon is a little different. For some reason, I will call it tradition, Vernon shines in the playoffs. I think it is our past that makes us win and focus in the playoffs. Graham might just win it all in two years when McCoy is a senior or even next year but Vernon's time is now. Vernon has the toughest district schedule going to Graham and Burk, two games that Vernon can lose making the playoffs not something that is guarenteed. Saying that I think we win everygame this year. Undefeated and going DEEP in the playoffs. Passing teams can beat us but it will be a close game whoever it is.

[lion75]

Originally posted by KTA
HOW REDICULAS?? PLEASE!!!! Seems that you keep on coming up with excuse after excuse after excuse. First Vernon is going to win this game because Clyde hasnt played anybody besides 2a teams, then they are going to win it off the past kazillion years of playoff history Vernon has, then it was look who they played "5A" "MW" and a "State Champ".......YOUR PATHETIC! Everytime I shot you down, you have some other raggedy excuse, and then try to cover it up with a "we only care about playoffs" or "look at last year". So let me get this right, Graham's 3rd round exit isnt something to be proud of?.....I'd like you to tell those kids from graham who exited the playoffs in the 1st rd that it wasnt that big of a deal. So what's this crock of bullcrap your trying to feed us about "if we cant be proud of our teams past accomplishments then why should they even bother to play?" TO WIN GAMES THIS YEAR, THATS WHY THEY PLAY. You dont think teams sit around after a loss and talk about the state championship that was won back in 1991 do you? If Celina dont win another state title, do you think they are going to celebrate it 20 years later? NO...why you ask, because they are going to go back out there every year to try to regain another title. Just because you have past playoff history, that doesnt guarentee anything for the following season. You talk about "I dont care who vernon has played" then why in the H E double hockey stick did you have to mention they played "a 5A, 4A and a state champion". Your pathetic and not even worth my time anymore...im done next thread please Your babbling is comical. I never even said Vernon would beat Clyde. I haven't mentioned anything about any 2a teams played by anybody. You've got the wrong person there. I don't know who you think you "shot down" but it wasn't me. I just mention a little playoff futility and you turn in to a "PATHETIC" babbler. too bad your gone from this post and aren't going to respond anymore. Oh' and by the way , excuse for what? Why does Vernon need an excuse for being 4-0? Explain that.

[lion75]

Originally posted by KTA
Fooled me

2005

Date Opponent Site Score
08/26/2005 Ballinger (3-2A) lost: 7-21 2A team beat them
09/02/2005 @ Breckenridge (5-3A) lost: 13-34
09/09/2005 @ Bangs (3-2A) lost: 21-34 see ballenger
09/16/2005 Brady (27-3A) won: 35-6
09/23/2005 Coahoma (4-2A) won: 31-7
09/30/2005 @ Vernon (5-3A) lost: 21-27OT barely lost to a playoff Vernon team
10/07/2005 Snyder (4-3A) lost: 6-42
10/21/2005 @ Sweetwater (4-3A) lost: 13-20 not bad considering SW lost only 2 games (13-2)
10/28/2005 Merkel (4-3A) won: 36-14
11/04/2005 @ Abilene Wylie (4-3A) lost: 7-38

2006

Date Opponent Site Score
09/01/2006 Ballinger (6-2A) won: 31-6
09/08/2006 @ Graham (6-3A) won: 18-14 Graham went 3 rds deep
09/15/2006 @ Early (6-2A) lost: 6-23 they sure crushed Early
09/22/2006 Bangs (6-2A) won: 34-20
09/29/2006 Vernon (6-3A) lost: 25-36 not bad considering Vernon went 5 rounds deep
10/06/2006 @ Burkburnett (6-3A) lost: 6-30
10/13/2006 Abilene Wylie (7-3A) lost: 7-43
10/20/2006 @ Sweetwater (7-3A) lost: 20-48
10/27/2006 Breckenridge (7-3A) won: 32-31
11/03/2006 @ Comanche (7-3A) won: 23-21
11/18/2006 @ Sanger (8-3A) lost: 22-49 atleast they made the playoffs

Yeah they have just walloped the 2A's, and been DESTROYED by the 3A's :rolleyes: This is your response to wildstangs quote about Clyde playing 2A teams. I have never fallen back on that. I have never even mention ed Clydes schedule at all. In fact, I think this game with Clyde will be very difficult and even said it would be "a battle".This is also where you started your little schedule comparison game which you later said that I wanted to play. Can you even keep up with all the people you are angry with and why? I respect Graham a LOT. But your constant arguing with multiple people IS ridiculous.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
You'd think Vernon and Graham were playing this week. What's wrong with you people, hijacking a thread. I thought only Snyder and Sweetwater were suppose to do that.;)

No joke!!!!!

[Texasfootball2]

I will say this about Clyde. The schedule that they are playing was made two years ago. I can't blame the coach for putting together a schedule that would give them a chance to win some games and try to change the culture and attitude about football. Last year you would have to say to some extent that it work, seeing as they made the playoffs for the first time in a long time even though they were ousted in the first round. I think Clyde has a quality team this year but they can't do anything about their schedule. Who knows what will happen Friday night. Vernon seems to have beaten better teams so far. But this game on Friday gives Clyde a chance to prove they belong for a change. This alone will highly motivate them. Unless Vernon jumps out to a big lead early, I could see this game being very competive. But because Clyde is still trying to take that next step forward, a bad start would probably be to much to overcome and could result in an easy victory for Vernon. Regardless of what happens I think Clyde has a good chance of making the playoffs again and their coach has done their kids a great service and something to build on for the future.

If I was a betting man I would say Vernon in this. But????

I know some of you people are going to be surprised that all this came from a Wylie Fan!

[lion75]

Clyde is solid. Vernon has a ton of talent but, a tendency to make numerous mistakes early in the season. If they do that in this game, it could haunt them.

[RedWhiteBlue]

I'm gonna throw my 2 cents in like anyone cares...... but it is getting a little tense....
I would like to say Clyde, because we beat them and then that would make our chances against Vernon look better, but then I always like for our other teams in our district to do well because that makes the district play more fun, baby!!!
Come November 2nd we will be rockin'!!! Which is what it is all about- right????
So I don't know- I think I will just hang out and see what happens and may the best team win! And I don't want to see a bunch of whining and crying on here afterwards from the losers.....
GO STEERS!!!!

[sweetwater07]

Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
I'm gonna throw my 2 cents in like anyone cares...... but it is getting a little tense....
I would like to say Clyde, because we beat them and then that would make our chances against Vernon look better, but then I always like for our other teams in our district to do well because that makes the district play more fun, baby!!!
Come November 2nd we will be rockin'!!! Which is what it is all about- right????
So I don't know- I think I will just hang out and see what happens and may the best team win! And I don't want to see a bunch of whining and crying on here afterwards from the losers.....
GO STEERS!!!!


Vernon's only D is against the run..Graham will beat them in district with minimal effort IMO.

[VERNONLION#1]

You are right RedWhite&Blue We will be Rockin on November 2nd, Rockin right over Graham Steers, if anyone goes home whinning it will be You! Go Vernon Lions!!!!!!!!!!!:p

[RedWhiteBlue]

Originally posted by VERNONLION#1
You are right RedWhite&Blue We will be Rockin on November 2nd, Rockin right over Graham Steers, if anyone goes home whinning it will be You! Go Vernon Lions!!!!!!!!!!!:p
I think you mispelled 'whinning'- it is spelled 'winning'.

[RedWhiteBlue]

By the way- why you have to be such a jerk? I thought my post was pretty fair.........

[VERNONLION#1]

Sorry you think im a jerk. Back to Football! Come on November 2nd! Vernon vs. Graham will be an nail biting exciting game as always. Both teams have alot of Talent on the field it will be a Battle to the end!! I guess we will just have to see who goes home "whining" and who goes home "Winning"

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by VERNONLION#1
Sorry you think im a jerk. Back to Football! Come on November 2nd! Vernon vs. Graham will be an nail biting exciting game as always. Both teams have alot of Talent on the field it will be a Battle to the end!! I guess we will just have to see who goes home "whining" and who goes home "Winning" Gee, you post alot like Frankie, kin maybe?:thinking:

[VERNONLION#1]

Sorry I don't know who Frankie is.

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
I think you mispelled 'whinning'- it is spelled 'winning'.

This may be the greatest comback of the year!

[RedWhiteBlue]

Thanks, I thought it was pretty good. As far as November 2nd goes VernonLion#1- I don't bite my nails, but I do take a great deal of medication! Ha! Also, you will get to see our pretty new turf.... it's nice, isn't it Texasfootball2?

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
Thanks, I thought it was pretty good. As far as November 2nd goes VernonLion#1- I don't bite my nails, but I do take a great deal of medication! Ha! Also, you will get to see our pretty new turf.... it's nice, isn't it Texasfootball2?

I would have say that your new field turf is nice. Red,White, and Blue make for some pretty colors.

[TripleH]

I pick Vernon over Clyde by 13.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by RedWhiteBlue
I'm gonna throw my 2 cents in like anyone cares...... but it is getting a little tense....
I would like to say Clyde, because we beat them and then that would make our chances against Vernon look better, but then I always like for our other teams in our district to do well because that makes the district play more fun, baby!!!
Come November 2nd we will be rockin'!!! Which is what it is all about- right????
So I don't know- I think I will just hang out and see what happens and may the best team win! And I don't want to see a bunch of whining and crying on here afterwards from the losers.....
GO STEERS!!!!

Hehehe!!!!

Are we getting some spunky women on here, or WHAT?!?!?!?!:D :D :D

[VERNONLION#1]

Hey RedWhite& Blue Im sure your new turf is really nice! As for you taking lots of medication if any of it is for your Heart maybe you should take a Double dose on Nov 2nd. So when we hand you a Heart Breakin Loss U will be OK. All Trash Talking aside it will really be a Great Game as always!! Exciting games are what Texas H.S. Football is all about. May the Best Team Win!!

As for this week Im sure we can take Clyde 24-17 is my bet.

[snydertiger2010]

GO CLYDE BEAT VERNON DOWN!!!!!!!!

[RedWhiteBlue]

Originally posted by VERNONLION#1
Hey RedWhite& Blue Im sure your new turf is really nice! As for you taking lots of medication if any of it is for your Heart maybe you should take a Double dose on Nov 2nd. So when we hand you a Heart Breakin Loss U will be OK. All Trash Talking aside it will really be a Great Game as always!! Exciting games are what Texas H.S. Football is all about. May the Best Team Win!!

As for this week Im sure we can take Clyde 24-17 is my bet.

Nope, no heart conditions here. I do take some pills that are supposed to keep me from going psycho on others. Apparently, they are working today.
Good luck to you and yours!
GO STEERS!!!!!

[KTA]

I would have say that your new field turf is nice. Red,White, and Blue make for some pretty colors.

Grahams field doesnt have red anywhere on it????? Are you sure you have seen it?

GO CLYDE!!!

[lakers]

KTA, nice to see ya back. lol. I thought u had left this tread for good because of "'ol grumpy gus" Lion75. :D

[Snydertigersrul]

Originally posted by snydertiger2010
GO CLYDE BEAT VERNON DOWN!!!!!!!!


I agree with you. Clyde will win this one as the continue to progress under coach Slaughter in his second season. Kevil also will run for 200.

[lakers]

For once I am actually agreeing with someone from Snyder... ;)
What is this world coming too...

[KTA]

KTA, nice to see ya back. lol. I thought u had left this tread for good because of "'ol grumpy gus" Lion75

Nope been at work all day, like I said in a earlier post im done discussing and rebuttling with him.

GO CLYDE

[LH Panther Mom]

Vernon takes this one. :)

[lakers]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Vernon takes this one. :)
Nah, Clyde is gonna win...

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by KTA
Grahams field doesnt have red anywhere on it????? Are you sure you have seen it?

GO CLYDE!!!

Just used the school colors as a reference. It's not like they used anybody else's school colors when painting. The field looks great. Sorry for not detailing down to the excact shade of every color for you.

[PlayaJBiehl20]

Originally posted by lion75
Vernon may even lose to Clyde. If they do, so what. We drop in the rankings? Big Deal. Vernon entered the post season ranked 53rd last year and thrashed their way through Region 1, going farther than Graham has ever gone in the history of their school. Vernon's coaches take the regular season seriously. They're serious about putting as little on film as possible while trying to win. They know these game films will be used for preparation in the playoffs. Graham or Clyde will pull out all the stops to beat a team like Vernon. Honestly, we want to beat you too, but Clyde's just a non district game and Graham is more important, but the real season is later.

You can't sit there and say that Vernon doesn't put everything into the games, to win them. They might hold a couple plays, but you're acting like they don't even try or care till playoffs. "The Jungle" why did you say the jungle in refrence to Lions, Lions are from the plains of africa. Tigers are from jungles, but you're real smart.

[BIG T 79]

Originally posted by PlayaJBiehl20
You can't sit there and say that Vernon doesn't put everything into the games, to win them. They might hold a couple plays, but you're acting like they don't even try or care till playoffs. "The Jungle" why did you say the jungle in refrence to Lions, Lions are from the plains of africa. Tigers are from jungles, but you're real smart.
Wow, way to take the jungel comment way to seriously. That was overly intelligent by you. I cant believe the only good comeback you had was from watching the "Lion King". COngrats buddy.

[BIG T 79]

Originally posted by PlayaJBiehl20
You can't sit there and say that Vernon doesn't put everything into the games, to win them. They might hold a couple plays, but you're acting like they don't even try or care till playoffs. "The Jungle" why did you say the jungle in refrence to Lions, Lions are from the plains of africa. Tigers are from jungles, but you're real smart.
Wow, way to take the jungle comment way to seriously. That was overly intelligent by you. I cant believe the only good comeback you had was from watching the "Lion King". COngrats buddy.

[TigerPride]

Originally posted by lion75
. As a Vernon fan that undestands that we have more size, speed, and overall talent than last years semifinal team LOL good win clyde GO TIGERS!!!(the best 4-1 team in the state)

[Sweetwater Red]

Somebody's got some splaining to do.......:doh: :D :doh:

[RedWhiteBlue]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Somebody's got some splaining to do.......:doh: :D :doh:
And it will probably be something to do with refs, injuries, cheating, etc...........

[slpybear the bullfan]

I cannot wait to see all the Crow that will be served up on this one!!!!:clap:

[Dominicfrank]

you have a big mouth Vernon wont blame any of those unless the QB left in the first quater or all 7 TO's were bad calls. I dont think either happened. I hate graham people like you, all talk until Graham gets beat several rounds before Vernon. Win something then talk big, punk.

[VERNONLION#1]

Originally posted by slpybear the bullfan
I cannot wait to see all the Crow that will be served up on this one!!!!:clap:
Myself and Z Motion just left the game agreeing that we have lots of CROW coming our way. So bring it on!!!!

[slpybear the bullfan]

Originally posted by VERNONLION#1
Myself and Z Motion just left the game agreeing that we have lots of CROW coming our way. So bring it on!!!!

Don't feel all alone... the crow is pretty tasty down in Bridgeport tonight!

[mrescape43]

Originally posted by Dominicfrank
you have a big mouth Vernon wont blame any of those unless the QB left in the first quater or all 7 TO's were bad calls. I dont think either happened. I hate graham people like you, all talk until Graham gets beat several rounds before Vernon. Win something then talk big, punk.

He's Baaaack!

[VERNONLION#1]

Originally posted by slpybear the bullfan
Don't feel all alone... the crow is pretty tasty down in Bridgeport tonight!
Dont tell me IP beat the Bulls.

[KTA]

ok I wont....Ill type it to you.....hey IP beat B-port;)