USA Today Poll

[KTA]

1. USC (44) 3-0 1,481
2. LSU (8) 4-0 1,438
3. Florida (4) 4-0 1,347
4. Oklahoma (4) 4-0 1,336
5. West Virginia 4-0 1,260
6. California 4-0 1,137
7. Texas 4-0 1,103
8. Ohio State 4-0 1,092
9. Wisconsin 4-0 1,026
10. Rutgers 3-0 901
11. Boston College 4-0 881
12. Oregon 4-0 878
13. Clemson 4-0 767
14. Virginia Tech 3-1 585
15. Kentucky 4-0 545
16. Georgia 3-1 516
17. Hawaii 4-0 479
18. South Florida 3-0 451
19. Penn State 3-1 397
20. Missouri 4-0 369
21. South Carolina 3-1 335
22. Nebraska 3-1 209
23. Michigan State 4-0 167
24. Alabama 3-1 154
25. Arizona State 4-0 151
25. Purdue 4-0 151

Others Receiving Votes
Cincinnati 84, UCLA 69, Miami (FL) 52, Texas A&M 20, Kansas 20, Louisville 18, Boise State 18, Michigan 17, Georgia Tech 10, Florida State 8, Virginia 7, TCU 6, UCF 5, Tennessee 4, Iowa 3, Air Force 2, Mississippi State 1.
Dropped From Rankings
Texas A&M 16, Louisville 19.

[burnet44]

this is how wack polls are
texas starts the year 4
wins all 4 games
but DROPS to 7
its just bs perception
I agree texas aint that high
but there should be a rule if you win you cant drop
thats just wack
all that does it tell people
beat anyone as bad as u can

polls are crap
and its not just texas its others too
thats why the bcs is wack
and it costs you money
you drop from 4 you aint gonna be in the BCS championship
they didnt want Boise State last year because of money

ND will be ranked somewhere
no matter how bad they are

SC will be too

polls are wack
at least hs has a playoff
polls dont matter
playing in December does

[KTA]

sooooo my conclusion from your post is that polls are "wack", glad you dont teach english :p

[Emerson1]

That's a stupid assessment.

[KTA]

from the grand daddy of footballology 101
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc164/KTA_KTA_KTA/sarcasm.gif

[Emerson1]

Still conjoined?

[KTA]

not like your umbilical cord

[sahen]

no, waht they should do is do away w/ preseason polls and not put one out until 4 weeks in or so...that way they wouldnt put teams at an unfair advantage starting in the top 10 versus those who are not in the top 10....

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by sahen
no, waht they should do is do away w/ preseason polls and not put one out until 4 weeks in or so...that way they wouldnt put teams at an unfair advantage starting in the top 10 versus those who are not in the top 10....

sounds good

[PlayaJBiehl20]

No BCS. Top 16 play playoff, the rest should be bowl games.

[KTA]

No BCS. Top 16 play playoff, the rest should be bowl games.

I agree to an extent, but how can you tell if your a top 16 team or not? Other peoples opinions? What heppens when your the #17 team based on peoples opinions....that would suck. I do think how ever there has got to be a better system, D2 has a playoff system, why cant D1 schools.....its all about the $$$

[PlayaJBiehl20]

Originally posted by KTA
I agree to an extent, but how can you tell if your a top 16 team or not? Other peoples opinions? What heppens when your the #17 team based on peoples opinions....that would suck. I do think how ever there has got to be a better system, D2 has a playoff system, why cant D1 schools.....its all about the $$$

Ya but if your 17 then it means you have lost, take care of business and you stay top 16, and then the rest are bowl games so you wouldn't be losin any money that you would have been getting in this system, and make the first and second round games in the playoffs at different places therefore you take care of those bowls, then have the semi finals and finals at the four bcs bowls, orange, sugar, fiesta and rose

[KTA]

Ya but if your 17 then it means you have lost, take care of business and you stay top 16

Are you sure about that?

look at this right now

AP Top 25

15. Georgia 3-1 631
16. South Carolina 3-1 586
17. Virginia Tech 3-1 568
18. South Florida 3-0 539
19. Hawaii 4-0 471
20. Missouri 4-0 401

USA Today Poll

14. Virginia Tech 3-1 585
15. Kentucky 4-0 545
16. Georgia 3-1 516
17. Hawaii 4-0 479
18. South Florida 3-0 451
19. Penn State 3-1 397
20. Missouri 4-0 369

how is that far to the teams who have not lost?

look at the polls last year before the bowl games

AP Top 25
1. Ohio State (65) 12-0 1,625
2. Florida 12-1 1,529
3. Michigan 11-1 1,526
4. LSU 10-2 1,365
5. Louisville 11-1 1,333
6. Wisconsin 11-1 1,255
7. Oklahoma 11-2 1,232
8. USC 10-2 1,182
9. Boise State 12-0 1,097
10. Auburn 10-2 1,020
11. Notre Dame 10-2 939
12. Arkansas 10-3 867
13. West Virginia 10-2 865
14. Virginia Tech 10-2 798
15. Wake Forest 11-2 766
16. Rutgers 10-2 631
17. Tennessee 9-3 576
18. Texas 9-3 564
19. Brigham Young 10-2 436
20. California 9-3 390
21. Texas A&M 9-3 379
22. Nebraska 9-4 193
23. Boston College 9-3 179
24. Oregon State 9-4 112
25. TCU 10-2 80

USA Today Poll

1. Ohio State (62) 12-0 1,550
2. Florida 12-1 1,470
3. Michigan 11-1 1,444
4. LSU 10-2 1,299
5. Wisconsin 11-1 1,263
6. Louisville 11-1 1,223
7. USC 10-2 1,173
8. Oklahoma 11-2 1,115
9. Boise State 12-0 1,053
10. Auburn 10-2 1,000
11. Notre Dame 10-2 923
12. West Virginia 10-2 800
13. Arkansas 10-3 798
14. Virginia Tech 10-2 781
15. Wake Forest 11-2 745
16. Texas 9-3 582
17. Rutgers 10-2 567
18. Tennessee 9-3 500
19. California 9-3 436
20. Brigham Young 10-2 369
21. Texas A&M 9-3 303
22. Nebraska 9-4 242
23. Boston College 9-3 175
24. TCU 10-2 95
25. Oregon State 9-4 72
25. Georgia Tech 9-4 72

Your statement saying
Ya but if your 17 then it means you have lost, take care of business and you stay top 16 has no merit.

I do how ever like this idea though


then have the semi finals and finals at the four bcs bowls, orange, sugar, fiesta and rose

[PlayaJBiehl20]

Originally posted by KTA
Are you sure about that?

look at this right now

AP Top 25

15. Georgia 3-1 631
16. South Carolina 3-1 586
17. Virginia Tech 3-1 568
18. South Florida 3-0 539
19. Hawaii 4-0 471
20. Missouri 4-0 401

USA Today Poll

14. Virginia Tech 3-1 585
15. Kentucky 4-0 545
16. Georgia 3-1 516
17. Hawaii 4-0 479
18. South Florida 3-0 451
19. Penn State 3-1 397
20. Missouri 4-0 369

how is that far to the teams who have not lost?

look at the polls last year before the bowl games

AP Top 25
1. Ohio State (65) 12-0 1,625
2. Florida 12-1 1,529
3. Michigan 11-1 1,526
4. LSU 10-2 1,365
5. Louisville 11-1 1,333
6. Wisconsin 11-1 1,255
7. Oklahoma 11-2 1,232
8. USC 10-2 1,182
9. Boise State 12-0 1,097
10. Auburn 10-2 1,020
11. Notre Dame 10-2 939
12. Arkansas 10-3 867
13. West Virginia 10-2 865
14. Virginia Tech 10-2 798
15. Wake Forest 11-2 766
16. Rutgers 10-2 631
17. Tennessee 9-3 576
18. Texas 9-3 564
19. Brigham Young 10-2 436
20. California 9-3 390
21. Texas A&M 9-3 379
22. Nebraska 9-4 193
23. Boston College 9-3 179
24. Oregon State 9-4 112
25. TCU 10-2 80

USA Today Poll

1. Ohio State (62) 12-0 1,550
2. Florida 12-1 1,470
3. Michigan 11-1 1,444
4. LSU 10-2 1,299
5. Wisconsin 11-1 1,263
6. Louisville 11-1 1,223
7. USC 10-2 1,173
8. Oklahoma 11-2 1,115
9. Boise State 12-0 1,053
10. Auburn 10-2 1,000
11. Notre Dame 10-2 923
12. West Virginia 10-2 800
13. Arkansas 10-3 798
14. Virginia Tech 10-2 781
15. Wake Forest 11-2 745
16. Texas 9-3 582
17. Rutgers 10-2 567
18. Tennessee 9-3 500
19. California 9-3 436
20. Brigham Young 10-2 369
21. Texas A&M 9-3 303
22. Nebraska 9-4 242
23. Boston College 9-3 175
24. TCU 10-2 95
25. Oregon State 9-4 72
25. Georgia Tech 9-4 72

Your statement saying has no merit.

I do how ever like this idea though

Ya i know, im not saying there isn't loopholes. But granted it would be at the end of the year, i have a hard time beleiving Mizzou will be undefeated at the end of the year, and Hawaii might but they schedule idaho state tech a and m.

[KTA]

Yeah, but lets just say Mizzou loses in the big 12 championship, and Hawaii finishes undefeated, how fair is that to say they are not top 16 material?

I think they should redo all the conferences, I don't care if you have to get rid of some conferences, as long as it gets things settled in the bigger scheme of things....just combine everybody by regions and let them fight it out until they win there conferences championship game then they get there bid to the tourney

[PlayaJBiehl20]

Originally posted by KTA
Yeah, but lets just say Mizzou loses in the big 12 championship, and Hawaii finishes undefeated, how fair is that to say they are not top 16 material?

I think they should redo all the conferences, I don't care if you have to get rid of some conferences, as long as it gets things settled in the bigger scheme of things....just combine everybody by regions and let them fight it out until they win there conferences championship game then they get there bid to the tourney

That would work, Hawaii will be top 16 if they finish undefeated, but if they want to compete at the top, they have to schedule the top. And you wouldn't have to reschedule conferences just work the better non bcs confrence schools into the bcs conferences.

[PlayaJBiehl20]

Originally posted by PlayaJBiehl20
That would work, Hawaii will be top 16 if they finish undefeated, but if they want to compete at the top, they have to schedule the top. And you wouldn't have to reschedule conferences just work the better non bcs confrence schools into the bcs conferences.

And for the ones that feel left out of those conferences, every ncaa div 1 school has the option to change conferences.

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by KTA
Are you sure about that?

look at this right now

AP Top 25

15. Georgia 3-1 631
16. South Carolina 3-1 586
17. Virginia Tech 3-1 568
18. South Florida 3-0 539
19. Hawaii 4-0 471
20. Missouri 4-0 401

USA Today Poll

14. Virginia Tech 3-1 585
15. Kentucky 4-0 545
16. Georgia 3-1 516
17. Hawaii 4-0 479
18. South Florida 3-0 451
19. Penn State 3-1 397
20. Missouri 4-0 369

how is that far to the teams who have not lost?





that wouldn't be fair at all... but it's a lot closer to being fair than what we've got now...

I say we could pick at ideas... I like the deal about not having rankings until the 4th week of the season...

I'd also use 17 teams... kinda like college basketball and the 65 team format... I don't think they're ready to adopt a 32 team format, so 17 would get as many teams in as possible...

nothings gunna be fair in this I don't believe... but it'd be a lot more fair if we TRIED to make this better...

[KTA]

but it'd be a lot more fair if we TRIED to make this better...

Agreed

[crabman]

A&M was overrated at 20. Now they are overrated at 29. I am an Aggie but I am also a realist. Top 40 maybe, but not top 30. I would hate to play Appalachian State.

[burnet44]

Originally posted by crabman
A&M was overrated at 20. Now they are overrated at 29. I am an Aggie but I am also a realist. Top 40 maybe, but not top 30. I would hate to play Appalachian State.

you mean Wofford huh

[raider red 2000]

Originally posted by burnet44
you mean Wofford huh

maybe TECH and atm should be affriad to play barnet.....because someone apparently knows it all