oldest rivalry?

[sotex]

The Hondo Owls defeated the 4A Uvalde Coyotes on Friday night 21-7 in the 92nd meeting between the two teams. Hondo now holds a 48-41-3 edge in the series. Is there another rivalry between a 3A school and an opponent that has lasted longer? The Hondo vs Uvalde rivalry dates back to 1912.

[charlesrixey]

it's nowhere near as long, but celina and pilot point have had a fairly storied rivalry (9 state titles between them)

23-23-1

[WOS87]

I believe Cuero and Yoakum will be meeting for the 98th time this year...

Cuero vs. Yoakum (63-28-6)
0 - 1911 - 7
37 - 1912 - 13
71 - 1914 - 0
39 - 1914 - 0
6 - 1915 - 0
10 - 1916 - 0
9 - 1917 - 0
12 - 1919 - 3
39 - 1920 - 7
7 - 1921 - 6
19 - 1922 - 0
0 - 1923 - 7
17 - 1923 - 7
0 - 1924 - 0
7 - 1924 - 2
3 - 1925 - 7
8 - 1925 - 0
20 - 1926 - 6
19 - 1927 - 0
19 - 1928 - 6
14 - 1929 - 6
18 - 1929 - 25
0 - 1930 - 39
0 - 1931 - 19
0 - 1932 - 12
14 - 1933 - 0
0 - 1934 - 60
0 - 1935 - 54
0 - 1939 - 32
0 - 1940 - 20
32 - 1941 - 0
13 - 1942 - 0
18 - 1942 - 0
0 - 1943 - 7
6 - 1944 - 7
6 - 1945 - 21
0 - 1946 - 6
13 - 1947 - 6
27 - 1948 - 7
12 - 1949 - 13
19 - 1950 - 7
20 - 1951 - 0
14 - 1952 - 41
14 - 1953 - 27
13 - 1954 - 20
13 - 1955 - 6
6 - 1956 - 13
28 - 1957 - 6
28 - 1958 - 6
6 - 1959 - 12
0 - 1960 - 0
6 - 1961 - 12
6 - 1962 - 6
20 - 1963 - 20
27 - 1964 - 0
19 - 1965 - 6
27 - 1966 - 6
18 - 1967 - 15
19 - 1968 - 0
32 - 1969 - 0
26 - 1970 - 18
0 - 1971 - 0
33 - 1972 - 7
43 - 1973 - 7
35 - 1974 - 0
28 - 1975 - 7
14 - 1976 - 7
19 - 1977 - 21
14 - 1978 - 14
27 - 1979 - 0
29 - 1980 - 0
22 - 1981 - 0
27 - 1982 - 20
34 - 1983 - 0
14 - 1984 - 6
43 - 1985 - 6
42 - 1986 - 6
48 - 1987 - 20
16 - 1988 - 0
6 - 1989 - 39
35 - 1990 - 0
32 - 1991 - 0
0 - 1992 - 9
42 - 1993 - 6
20 - 1994 - 14
42 - 1995 - 7
20 - 1996 - 23
42 - 1997 - 0
33 - 1998 - 0
31 - 1999 - 13
7 - 2000 - 17
3 - 2001 - 10
10 - 2002 - 3
28 - 2003 - 21
21 - 2004 - 14
41 - 2005 - 14
33 - 2006 - 7

[burnet44]

Sherman-Denison is more I think
or something like That

[turbostud]

Originally posted by burnet44
Sherman-Denison is more I think
or something like That
Sherman-Denison began in 1906 but some games were not played because of WW's and such.

[big daddy russ]

I wanna say El Campo/Bay City is the state's longest in any classification, but I forget. I know it was one of EC's rivals, but that's not 3A.

[AP Panther Fan]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
I wanna say El Campo/Bay City is the state's longest in any classification, but I forget. I know it was one of EC's rivals, but that's not 3A.


You know AP/Ingleside go way back, but not as far as Cuero/Yoakum... (the 30's maybe).... I will still try to post it, if I can get it.

[sotex]

ttt

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Sinton vs Taft goes back to the dark ages

[tigerpride_08]

this year's EC/Wharton game was the 98th meeting...

[CHSfan]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by WOS87
I believe Cuero and Yoakum will be meeting for the 98th time this year...

Cuero vs. Yoakum (63-28-6)
0 - 1911 - 7
37 - 1912 - 13
71 - 1914 - 0
39 - 1914 - 0
6 - 1915 - 0
10 - 1916 - 0
9 - 1917 - 0
12 - 1919 - 3
39 - 1920 - 7
7 - 1921 - 6
19 - 1922 - 0
0 - 1923 - 7
17 - 1923 - 7
0 - 1924 - 0
7 - 1924 - 2
3 - 1925 - 7
8 - 1925 - 0
20 - 1926 - 6
19 - 1927 - 0
19 - 1928 - 6
14 - 1929 - 6
18 - 1929 - 25
0 - 1930 - 39
0 - 1931 - 19
0 - 1932 - 12
14 - 1933 - 0
0 - 1934 - 60
0 - 1935 - 54
0 - 1939 - 32
0 - 1940 - 20
32 - 1941 - 0
13 - 1942 - 0
18 - 1942 - 0
0 - 1943 - 7
6 - 1944 - 7
6 - 1945 - 21
0 - 1946 - 6
13 - 1947 - 6
27 - 1948 - 7
12 - 1949 - 13
19 - 1950 - 7
20 - 1951 - 0
14 - 1952 - 41
14 - 1953 - 27
13 - 1954 - 20
13 - 1955 - 6
6 - 1956 - 13
28 - 1957 - 6
28 - 1958 - 6
6 - 1959 - 12
0 - 1960 - 0
6 - 1961 - 12
6 - 1962 - 6
20 - 1963 - 20
27 - 1964 - 0
19 - 1965 - 6
27 - 1966 - 6
18 - 1967 - 15
19 - 1968 - 0
32 - 1969 - 0
26 - 1970 - 18
0 - 1971 - 0
33 - 1972 - 7
43 - 1973 - 7
35 - 1974 - 0
28 - 1975 - 7
14 - 1976 - 7
19 - 1977 - 21
14 - 1978 - 14
27 - 1979 - 0
29 - 1980 - 0
22 - 1981 - 0
27 - 1982 - 20
34 - 1983 - 0
14 - 1984 - 6
43 - 1985 - 6
42 - 1986 - 6
48 - 1987 - 20
16 - 1988 - 0
6 - 1989 - 39
35 - 1990 - 0
32 - 1991 - 0
0 - 1992 - 9
42 - 1993 - 6
20 - 1994 - 14
42 - 1995 - 7
20 - 1996 - 23
42 - 1997 - 0
33 - 1998 - 0
31 - 1999 - 13
7 - 2000 - 17
3 - 2001 - 10
10 - 2002 - 3
28 - 2003 - 21
21 - 2004 - 14
41 - 2005 - 14
33 - 2006 - 7 [/Q

yoakum is our oldest rivaly but deff. not our worst//that would have to be GONZALES!!

[CHSfan]

this is our last year to play yoakum too!!...:(...well at least last time to play them in a district game

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by AP Panther Fan
You know AP/Ingleside go way back, but not as far as Cuero/Yoakum... (the 30's maybe).... I will still try to post it, if I can get it.
I used to have the entire series saved to my computer, along with a bunch of the write-ups from the Caller-Times and Progress dating back to the 30's. Virus wiped it out, though. :(

The series actually goes back to the 20's (exact date unknown... I couldn't find info before the late-20's), but there was such a huge size difference in the schools that they didn't play every year. Back then, AP's primary similar-sized rivals were Sinton and Rockport while Ingleside's was Woodsboro. But according to the papers, the games were still very heated even though AP was much larger than Ingleside.

If I remember correctly, Ingleside first fielded a football team in '21 (I could be very off on that info, though). We were tiny back then, though, just basically a fishing town with three huge ranches and a couple of big wineries all operated by just a handful of families. Some refineries moved into town sometime early in the century, though, and the school grew enough to where they could field an 11-man football team. Those refineries moved out during the depression, though, and Ingleside began to decline.

When the Humble Refinery moved into Ingleside in the 40's, the town got a shot in the arm as far as the economy and population, and really started growing. The AP/Ingleside rivalry kind of went the way the growth of Ingleside went. We played a few times early on, then when Ingleside fell on hard times and the population dried up the games became less-common, then when the refinery showed up the series became more consistent. After Ingleside grew to a 1A school (it used to be a Class B school), the series with AP pretty much became an every-year thing. It's been played continuously every year since the early 50's. (And I may be wrong on some of these facts... haven't seen this info in three or four years.)

Ingleside and AP were finally put into the same classification and same district sometime in the mid- to late-70's. The intensity that was already there before they were paired up in district only grew. I'm sure you have some stories from high school. My freshman year, IHStangFan's senior year, was the year of that huge pasture fight. That was a melee.

I might still have something laying around. I have a ton of random papers filed away with some obscure HS football facts on them. I'll see if I can't find anything about the rivalry.

[Bull19]

america and british columbia

[KingRob]

Originally posted by CHSfan
this is our last year to play yoakum too!!...:(...well at least last time to play them in a district game

Really? I didn't know about this. Why?

[AP Panther Fan]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
I'm sure you have some stories from high school. My freshman year, IHStangFan's senior year, was the year of that huge pasture fight. That was a melee.



LOL...tons of stories. For those that don't know, I went to school in Ingleside, but have lived in Aransas Pass for many years now and have/had 3 kids in the APISD.

Anyway, one of the best things I personally remember contributing to was a huge sign that said "Panthers eat (horse) $h*#"... which was then put across the entire length of their press box. It unfortunately backfired when AP's coach hung it in the boys lockerroom for inspiration.

Then there was always the blue dye and bubbles in the fountain on the AP Boulevard.;) That was a yearly event.

I will try to post some of those old games/scores. I know they recently came out in the fall sports guide.

[AP Panther Fan]

Wow, I have a brand new appreciation for WOS87 and what he does.:D You are correct Russ, in that there are many years (primarily 50's and 60's) that the two teams did not play each other.

Aransas Pass leads series, 28-19-1

Aransas Year Ingleside
Pass

12 2006 38
29 2005 27
07 2004 33
22 2003 19
62 2002 00
28 2001 27
28 2000 00
34 1999 00
26 1998 00
29 1997 31
00 1996 06
19 1995 37
19 1994 34
26 1993 28
14 1992 06
17 1991 15
22 1990 10
14 1989 10
35 1988 00
12 1987 14
00 1986 09
00 1985 20
31 1984 00
42 1983 07
00 1982 14
06 1981 21
20 1980 00
30 1979 21
33 1978 00
07 1977 08
20 1976 14
42 1975 10
27 1974 00
08 1973 12
27 1972 00
13 1971 07
13 1970 00
06 1967 06
13 1966 06
47 1965 06
12 1964 37
12 1949 00
00 1948 25
07 1947 00
06 1946 13
00 1945 06
00 1944 13
13 1938 00

[BILLYFRED0000]

Well Celina and Pilot Point have been at it for a while. We are only 12 miles apart. GA Moore was a PP graduate(how would you like PP on your letter jacket) and so is current coach Butch Ford. The games began in 1935 and it has always been a good matchup. Pilot Point is the last team to beat Celina at home in week 7 of 98 which coincidentally was the last loss for 68 games.
Great rivalry with both schools having titles. Pilot Point racked up two in the early 80's and Celina had our run as well. One of the top rivalries in the state as both schools have grown and we have been the same classifications most of the time.

[WOS87]

Ingleside and AP is a longstanding rivalry but the rivalries AP has had with both Sinton and Taft go back even further.

Sinton and AP have met 76 times (will be #77 when they play this year).

Taft and AP faced each other 75 times up through their last matchup in '03. From 1953-2003 they met every single year for 51 consecutive seasons.

Aransas Pass vs. Sinton
(Sinton leads 54-21-1)

0 - 1925 - 19
0 - 1927 - 19
6 - 1928 - 14
13 - 1928 - 0
0 - 1929 - 7
20 - 1930 - 0
32 - 1930 - 0
12 - 1931 - 0
0 - 1932 - 25
13 - 1933 - 7
26 - 1934 - 6
33 - 1935 - 0
7 - 1936 - 0
6 - 1937 - 0
13 - 1938 - 7
6 - 1939 - 38
7 - 1940 - 0
6 - 1941 - 0
18 - 1942 - 6
7 - 1944 - 52
0 - 1945 - 32
0 - 1946 - 28
0 - 1947 - 26
0 - 1948 - 27
0 - 1949 - 12
0 - 1950 - 33
26 - 1951 - 0
0 - 1956 - 26
6 - 1957 - 6
15 - 1958 - 0
14 - 1959 - 36
18 - 1960 - 26
0 - 1961 - 7
0 - 1962 - 15
0 - 1962 - 27
14 - 1963 - 22
6 - 1964 - 26
22 - 1965 - 15
0 - 1966 - 28
0 - 1967 - 28
6 - 1968 - 47
14 - 1969 - 19
0 - 1970 - 30
6 - 1971 - 23
6 - 1972 - 34
7 - 1973 - 6
8 - 1974 - 50
51 - 1975 - 10
6 - 1976 - 37
15 - 1977 - 12
2 - 1978 - 13
0 - 1979 - 14
27 - 1984 - 29
6 - 1985 - 28
6 - 1986 - 29
0 - 1987 - 29
0 - 1987 - 34
21 - 1988 - 26
12 - 1989 - 49
7 - 1990 - 35
12 - 1991 - 65
0 - 1992 - 61
14 - 1993 - 39
7 - 1994 - 22
0 - 1995 - 28
6 - 1996 - 28
31 - 1997 - 24
24 - 1998 - 25
21 - 1999 - 14
14 - 2000 - 42
0 - 2001 - 49
14 - 2002 - 41
7 - 2003 - 44
9 - 2004 - 54
14 - 2005 - 33
21 - 2006 - 26


Aransas Pass vs. Taft
(AP leads 39-30-6)

0 - 1920 - 49
0 - 1921 - 64
0 - 1922 - 24
0 - 1927 - 44
19 - 1931 - 0
0 - 1933 - 20
0 - 1934 - 0
32 - 1934 - 6
12 - 1935 - 12
12 - 1936 - 12
13 - 1937 - 0
20 - 1938 - 6
7 - 1939 - 0
0 - 1940 - 0
0 - 1941 - 0
34 - 1942 - 7
19 - 1943 - 0
13 - 1944 - 26
32 - 1945 - 0
6 - 1946 - 32
0 - 1947 - 32
20 - 1948 - 6
6 - 1949 - 0
0 - 1950 - 14
19 - 1953 - 6
7 - 1954 - 20
6 - 1955 - 15
12 - 1956 - 18
12 - 1957 - 6
16 - 1958 - 26
13 - 1959 - 6
34 - 1960 - 0
6 - 1961 - 0
15 - 1962 - 12
14 - 1963 - 6
2 - 1964 - 7
6 - 1965 - 7
0 - 1966 - 32
13 - 1967 - 6
8 - 1968 - 14
42 - 1969 - 15
26 - 1970 - 37
21 - 1971 - 0
7 - 1972 - 0
0 - 1973 - 14
24 - 1974 - 0
26 - 1975 - 14
20 - 1976 - 0
0 - 1977 - 0
15 - 1978 - 20
13 - 1979 - 14
7 - 1980 - 6
21 - 1981 - 19
0 - 1982 - 17
15 - 1983 - 16
31 - 1984 - 7
6 - 1985 - 28
6 - 1986 - 17
3 - 1987 - 0
7 - 1988 - 3
7 - 1989 - 16
16 - 1990 - 20
0 - 1991 - 41
7 - 1992 - 41
7 - 1993 - 13
28 - 1994 - 9
28 - 1995 - 20
25 - 1996 - 20
27 - 1997 - 21
20 - 1998 - 6
56 - 1999 - 0
48 - 2000 - 13
35 - 2001 - 26
45 - 2002 - 15
30 - 2003 - 22

[CHSfan]

Originally posted by KingRob
Really? I didn't know about this. Why?

we r prolly joining a different district...with more competition!! ours just isnt cuttin it!!

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by CHSfan
we r prolly joining a different district...with more competition!! ours just isnt cuttin it!!
You don't get to "pick" who is in your district. :doh: :doh:

[CHSfan]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
You don't get to "pick" who is in your district. :doh: :doh:

lol...i may be blonde but i am deff. not STUPID...i kno that...we are leaving our district and going to a diff one!! well that is what the coaches have benn telling us

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by CHSfan
lol...i may be blonde but i am deff. not STUPID...i kno that...we are leaving our district and going to a diff one!! well that is what the coaches have benn telling us
You go where the UIL says you go. :p

[CHSfan]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
You go where the UIL says you go. :p

I KNOW....ur not comprehending/////UIL is moving us!! we r changing districts!! i am not just making this up...ppl from yoakum have been askin me if it is true...because their coaches are telling them too!!

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by CHSfan
I KNOW....ur not comprehending/////UIL is moving us!! we r changing districts!! i am not just making this up...ppl from yoakum have been askin me if it is true...because their coaches are telling them too!!


The coaches are just speculating..NO ONE has a real inside track on who goes where

[CHSfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
The coaches are just speculating..NO ONE has a real inside track on who goes where

then y are all the coaches in our district saying that this is our last year in district 29?

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by CHSfan
then y are all the coaches in our district saying that this is our last year in district 29?

A..because it is likely the number will change as far as what district it is

B. There is a good chance SOME movement will happen

BUT anyone talking now about moving districts are only speculating, non one knows anything until the day it is released.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
A..because it is likely the number will change as far as what district it is

B. There is a good chance SOME movement will happen

BUT anyone talking now about moving districts are only speculating, non one knows anything until the day it is released.

You are right there. I mean come on. The UIL does not know what it is doing so how could anybody else?

[AP Panther Fan]

Originally posted by WOS87


Aransas Pass vs. Sinton
(Sinton leads 54-21-1)





No wonder we have such a darn mental block when it comes to playing Sinton....we haven't beat them since 1999!
:mad:

Time to change that!

Thanks again WOS87, interesting stuff. I knew Sinton went way back, but really had no idea that we played Taft on such a regular basis.

[Antec]

Wharton and El Campo played for 98th R iver Battle last Friday

Some missing scores before 1910 and a year or two they didnt play for one reason or another