Was David Carr the Texans main problem??

[Darren]

It may be too early to discuss this.

But with the Texans off to a 2-0 start do you think that David Carr was the main problem with their performance in the past?

I have always defended Carr but I am starting to wonder.

[pirate4state]

I have not watched a Texan game, so I don't know, BUT for now it looks like it. :eek:

Maybe the line just wants to protect this guy more? :thinking:

[GoStafford]

i think the franchise made him look like a leader when in fact he wasn't in the locker room

[JasperDog94]

This is the same offensive line that Carr had. Schaub (sp?) just knows how to make a quick read and get rid of the football.

[crzyjournalist03]

Don't discout Ahman Green from the equation...the Texans had their best year when Domanick Davis was healthy. Other than that, they've had a bunch of run-of-the-mill backs who aren't a big time threat. Green may be getting up in age, but he's still a force to be reckoned with. I think he was the best free agent signing in the NFL this offseason.

If you have the ability to establish a running game, all sorts of options open up for your offense, regardless of how much you actually run it. Also, the defense is young and maturing, and they're getting better as they should...these are the primary reasons that I think the Texans are better.

However, I still believe they're playing above their means so far...Indy will be a real litmus test.

[Sweetwater Red]

We'll find out what Shaub is made off this weekend. It looks like
his #1 target(Andre Johnson) is doubtful for the next game.

[burnet44]

D is better
OL is better but not great
QB's get all the cred when you win
and most of the blame when you lose
NO ONE Player is that important

its just what goes with being a QB
anyone think that the LT guard was the problem?
No as a group maybe
but alone no

[Bull19]

carr was too big of a pretty boy.....i think he proved that on sunday when they kept showing him on the sidelines with his hair all greased up, not to mention his michael jackson white gloves he was wearing while doing the books


http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/3565/davidcarrpanthersss3.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=davidcarrpanthersss3.jpg)

[Maroon87]

It helps when the defense is forcing turnovers and getting off the field quickly. More offensive possessions=more scoring opportunities.

[Bull19]

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1443/pjussdavidcarrbh8.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pjussdavidcarrbh8.jpg)

[Old Tiger]

yes

[Bull19]

Originally posted by Bull19
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1443/pjussdavidcarrbh8.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pjussdavidcarrbh8.jpg)

seriously just look at that picture,,,,you cant honestly think somebody who looks like that can compete in the nfl, much less win a super bowl

[Bull's-eye]

IMO, David Carr had too many negative plays. He has the physical abilities to make the great plays, but this is what gets him in trouble. There are times when you should throw the ball away or not force a low percentage pass. Trying to make the great play usually ends up with him getting sacked or being intercepted. These are definately plays that will kill a drive. Schaub has shown that he will do the little things to help his team win. It wouldn't bother him one bit if he had 50 yds passing, as long as that was the best thing for the Texans. He has avoided the negative plays, and that is what sets him apart from Carr. He is a far better leader and more of a team player.

[Old Tiger]

He was antsy in the pocket when there was no pressure, couldn't read the blitz's, and made bad decisions like holding the ball too long or not hitting the right reciever.

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by burnet44

OL is better but not great
How is the OL better? It's the same people as last year.

[carter08]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
How is the OL better? It's the same people as last year.

Salaam is the reason for the improvement.

[burnet44]

Originally posted by Bull19
seriously just look at that picture,,,,you cant honestly think somebody who looks like that can compete in the nfl, much less win a super bowl

Maybe


http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs8/300W/i/2005/298/f/b/Tom_Brady_by_shad0wz0ne.jpg

[bulldogman06]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
How is the OL better? It's the same people as last year.

you dont think a year together wouldnt make them better? the line is better, no changes. the d is better. carr wasnt the problem, IMO i think he is better than schaub. he was just destroyed early in his career, and was gunshy. put him behind a reliable line and give him a few games, he can still wreck

[bulldogman06]

Originally posted by burnet44
Maybe


http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs8/300W/i/2005/298/f/b/Tom_Brady_by_shad0wz0ne.jpg

haha, exactly, im not sure why the way you look should have anything to do with how good a player you are. so you have to be ugly as hell to win a super bowl. sorry brady, but no more super bowls for you, thats the rule....

[Bull19]

Originally posted by Bull19
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1443/pjussdavidcarrbh8.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pjussdavidcarrbh8.jpg)

james dean wannabe plain and simple, esp with the flipped up collar

[sinton66]

Let's not forget they have Kubiak now too, big difference.

[Bull's-eye]

Originally posted by sinton66
Let's not forget they have Kubiak now too, big difference.

Carr played under Kubiak, then Kubiak and the Texans decided Carr wasn't woth keeping.

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by bulldogman06
you dont think a year together wouldnt make them better? the line is better, no changes. the d is better. carr wasnt the problem, IMO i think he is better than schaub. he was just destroyed early in his career, and was gunshy. put him behind a reliable line and give him a few games, he can still wreck But the line took the blame for FIVE YEARS and now all of a sudden with a new QB they're better? Come on, you guys are smarter than that.

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
But the line took the blame for FIVE YEARS and now all of a sudden with a new QB they're better? Come on, you guys are smarter than that. okay, i think we can agree that the line did suck....

and that carr sucked at avoiding the sack..... so in turn that just made for a crap load of sacks.....

the o line is better..... no doubt

eric winston is good and didnt play much last season if im correct....

and nobody is saying that theyre a great o line..... just said they are improved from last year....

and a year in this offense for flangan and a qb who can make quick reads and get rid of the ball rather than take sacks also helps....

not as many sacks= everybody saying the o line is better......

also i do think that the o line was kinda a scapegoat for the texans when it was really alot of differnet factors put together that made them suck..... they were just easy to blame