Miami 29 SLC 21 (final)

[29-3aFAN]

SLC coming out strong against the dream team.

[Phantom Stang]

SLC-7
MNW-0

9:24 left in 1st Q

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TD Northwestern

7-7

[mistanice]

is there a link for web radio?

[29-3aFAN]

Looks like a shootout in the making.

[Phantom Stang]

Originally posted by mistanice
is there a link for web radio?
www.kkgmam.com/final/index2.html

[Phantom Stang]

SL quick kicks . NW ball on own 31

[VAMike]

Defensiove scores may determine the outcome as both offenses seem near unstoppable

[TheDOCTORdre]

TD DRAGONS

[29-3aFAN]

14-7 DRAGONS

[Phantom Stang]

NW fumbles. Tomlin of SLC picks it up and scores.
SLC 14
NW 7

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MNW punts from own 24
Southlake ball on own 34 I think.

End of 1st Q

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NW intercepts! takes over on Dragon 19

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TD NW

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SLC 14
NW14

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TD Bulls

[CelinaCatFan]

Miami NW 21
SLC 14

2nd Quarter

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NW 21
SLC 14

4:48 left in 2nd Q

[Phantom Stang]

Dragons punt out of endzone, NW fumbles return SLC takes over on 45

[CelinaCatFan]

TD SLC!

[VAMike]

Lack of discipline on the NW team. Gonna kill them if they keep it up

[DDBooger]

these guys are acting like animals! trying to intimidate! as they get more and more frustrated watch the penalties mount!

[29-3aFAN]

Did yall hear commentors say that was a bad call on the sack? MNW had Dodge by the face mask. Good call refs!

[29-3aFAN]

Not catchable there.

[VAMike]

Originally posted by 29-3aFAN
Did yall hear commentors say that was a bad call on the sack? MNW had Dodge by the face mask. Good call refs!

They seemed all wrapped up over the whistle. Everyone in the place knew he was stopped, no need to throw him to the ground (with the facemask no less)

[CelinaCatFan]

Fumble...SLC ball!

[Phantom Stang]

Tied 21-21 at the half

[29-3aFAN]

I hope that fumble doesn't haunt us not getting more points on the board ending the half.

[Phantom Stang]

ID BULLS
NW 27
SLC21

[RdaleBoi08]

Is There A Web Cam Or Audio Link To The Game??

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Kick no good!

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NW 27
SLC 21

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Snap goes over Dragon punters head into the end zone for safety.
29-21 MNW

[Phantom Stang]

Failed Southlake field coal attempt.
About 9 min. left in game.
Still 29-21.MNW

[Phantom Stang]

Bulls go three and out.
Dragon ball at own 43.

[29-3aFAN]

I wonder if all these cramps are in the game plan for resting the big guys?

[DDBooger]

another fumble by SLC!:rolleyes: :dispntd:

[Phantom Stang]

Originally posted by DDBooger
another fumble by SLC!:rolleyes: :dispntd:
NW intercepts......again

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Phantom Stang
NW intercepts......again 5 SLC turnovers! these guys are hitting hard! causing the fumbles, too many athletes!:dispntd:

[Phantom Stang]

The Southlake D is doing their part.

[mistanice]

score and how much left in game?

[VAMike]

29-21 1:41

[TheDOCTORdre]

damn there goes our state bragging rights
come on SLC u can still pull it out

[DDBooger]

what was that magazine with the Dodge on the cover and a cheerleader as well as student prez! ?

[Phantom Stang]

Originally posted by DDBooger
what was that magazine with the Dodge on the cover and a cheerleader as well as student prez! ?
"D" Magazine

[Phantom Stang]

Game over
Miami Northwestern defeats Southlake Carroll 29-21

[VanKampen]

thank you SLC for embarrassing the state of texas. as if UT wasnt good enough...

[KennedaleFaN]

link not allowed.....lhpm
check out the documentary over the Miami Northwestern Highschool

..tell me what u guys think.

Caution Vulgar Language

[DDBooger]

"D" magazine article
http://www.dmagazine.com/ME2/Sites/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=MultiPublishing&mod=PublishingTitles&mid=7155F7796F354F21B1183937D847D6DF&tier=4&id=2E4662E89091450EA6D4A0FF01296094

[Emerson1]

Riley Dodge was off most of the night, kept sailing the ball high. Should of had a TD when his WR was wide open but he had to jump for it.

MNW could of won by more, in the 3rd they had a WR 40 yards downfield without a man within 30 yards of him, the QB never saw him and got sacked.

During the national anthem the MNW crowd held up their gang signs, and one was blowing his air horn. Why am I not surprised though?

[Emerson1]

Attendance 31,896

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by Emerson1


During the national anthem the MNW crowd held up their gang signs, and one was blowing his air horn. Why am I not surprised though?

How did you like that story about the player who was arrested 2 days before the State Championship and still played in the game - when all the indictments and the investigation was complete - I believe 20 school officials and coaches were "reassigned" Seems there was an assault of a 14 year old girl and the previously mentioned 20 officials "keep it under raps" until someone finally spilled the beans. The current coach was hired in July - just a few days before practice began. He has won a State Championships with 2 different schools. He seemed like the real deal and was trying really hard to get the team headed in the right direction - not just on the field, but academically (sp) as well. They also mentioned that 2 of the players (lineman I think) didn't wanna fly and they said they made a human chain to keep them from leaving the plane lol........

[JR2004]

Originally posted by 44INAROW
How did you like that story about the player who was arrested 2 days before the State Championship and still played in the game - when all the indictments and the investigation was complete - I believe 20 school officials and coaches were "reassigned" Seems there was an assault of a 14 year old girl and the previously mentioned 20 officials "keep it under raps" until someone finally spilled the beans. The current coach was hired in July - just a few daus before practicebegan. He has won a State Championships with 2 different schools. He seemed like the real deal and was trying really hard to get the team headed in the right way - not just on the field, but academically (sp) as well.

Billy Rolle had won a state title there before. He then left and led another Florida school to a state title before returning this summer after the entire staff was fired.

[44INAROW]

hey, you quoted me before I was through making my typo corrections lol........... ;)

I think it was during the SLC game that I saw a story about a player from South Carolina (I think) that has been All State his Freshman, Sophomore and Junior year..... now that is amazing!

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by 44INAROW
How did you like that story about the player who was arrested 2 days before the State Championship and still played in the game - when all the indictments and the investigation was complete - I believe 20 school officials and coaches were "reassigned" Seems there was an assault of a 14 year old girl and the previously mentioned 20 officials "keep it under raps" until someone finally spilled the beans. The current coach was hired in July - just a few days before practice began. He has won a State Championships with 2 different schools. He seemed like the real deal and was trying really hard to get the team headed in the right direction - not just on the field, but academically (sp) as well. They also mentioned that 2 of the players (lineman I think) didn't wanna fly and they said they made a human chain to keep them from leaving the plane lol........
That is old news.

The team almost ran through SLC's blow up dragon, looks like a coach got in the way though and made them go straight to their sidelines(they came out of the same tunnel as SLC and it was right there)

[Emerson1]

The mnw band spelled out 'HOOD' during halftime lol

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by Emerson1
That is old news.



well sorry, I was just trying to interject some real football talk.. :rolleyes: :p :p :p :D

did you notice the "mommas" on the sidelines??? I couldn't believe that.. and the guys with "wifebeaters" and baggy plaid pants on:rolleyes: not sure what they were doing on the sidelines anyway :doh: :confused:

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by 44INAROW
well sorry, I was just trying to interject some real football talk.. :rolleyes: :p :p :p :D

did you notice the "mommas" on the sidelines??? I couldn't believe that.. and the guys with "wifebeaters" and baggy plaid pants on:rolleyes: not sure what they were doing on the sidelines anyway :doh: :confused:
I didn't see the "mommas".

The ones with jerseys on were either ballboys or hurt players, I didn't see the wifebeaters though.

[Emerson1]

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/8863/695sportsfbhmiamisouthlti0.jpg

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Emerson1
The mnw band spelled out 'HOOD' during halftime lol
:doh: :doh: :doh:

[JR2004]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
:doh: :doh: :doh:

I found that to be pretty humorous to be honest. The guy sitting next to us said "Well heck SLC should come out and spell Suburban to even things out..." lol...

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by JR2004
I found that to be pretty humorous to be honest. The guy sitting next to us said "Well heck SLC should come out and spell Suburban to even things out..." lol...
I thought it was funny, too. :D One of those "oh I can't believe they just did that" kind of things.

[KTA]

My opinion on the game

SLC played SLOPPY. They had a chance to take the lead at half time, but fumbled the ball on the 6 yardline. That one drive Dodge was out if the back up QB throws the ball a lil bit infront of the WR thats 7 points. Dodge threw another TD strike only to have the WR drop the ball as he was coming down in the endzone. They fumbled once after halftime as they were marching down. The missed FG. In my opinion Miami didnt beat them, they beat themselves!!! Miami scored 3 times from 60 yards plus. The 2nd half SLC's D played good all but one play. If there Offense wouldnt of self imploded this game should of easly went SL's way.

On a side note, I really honestly think the majority of Miamis cramps were BS, I think that was their way of slowing down SL's offense...Ive NEVER seen that many cramps in a game....kinda funny they walked fine after they got over to the sidelines....sounds crazy I know, but I really do believe it. And what was up with Miami's head coach walking all the way out on the field and wouldnt listen to the refs trying to get him to go back to the sidelines?

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Emerson1
Attendance 31,896 guess Matthew was a little off with his prediction of being able to find a seat ;) :p

I'm hoping ESPNU re-airs this game later in the week.

[3afan]

that had to be a record crowd for Ford Stadium - it was amazing

[olddawggreen]

Originally posted by KTA
My opinion on the game

SLC played SLOPPY. They had a chance to take the lead at half time, but fumbled the ball on the 6 yardline. That one drive Dodge was out if the back up QB throws the ball a lil bit infront of the WR thats 7 points. Dodge threw another TD strike only to have the WR drop the ball as he was coming down in the endzone. They fumbled once after halftime as they were marching down. The missed FG. In my opinion Miami didnt beat them, they beat themselves!!! Miami scored 3 times from 60 yards plus. The 2nd half SLC's D played good all but one play. If there Offense wouldnt of self imploded this game should of easly went SL's way.

On a side note, I really honestly think the majority of Miamis cramps were BS, I think that was their way of slowing down SL's offense...Ive NEVER seen that many cramps in a game....kinda funny they walked fine after they got over to the sidelines....sounds crazy I know, but I really do believe it. And what was up with Miami's head coach walking all the way out on the field and wouldnt listen to the refs trying to get him to go back to the sidelines?

KTA, I think thats a pretty good assessment of the game. Turn overs, missed receptions, missed field goal, all came back to haunt the Dragons at the end. You just can't have mistakes like this in a game of this caliber. I agree with you on the cramp thing, and the time it took to get them off the field was a joke.

I will say this, the Bulls had plenty of talent and they were hungry. Congratulations to them on the win.

On a personal note, as much as I hated to see a Texas team lose to a Florida team, losing a game may not be a bad thing for SLC. I think everyone needs a wakeup call every now and then, and the Dragons haven't had one in a long, long time. I think many SLC fans (definatly not all of them) have grown so used to not losing that they take the win for granted and it's become boring to them. One thing that has amazed me at SLC home games is the number of people on the home side that leave after the half. I'm told that many of them are band parents, but whats up with that? You know the football team is going to win, so you can leave and get on with your dinner?

It also chapped me at the game last night when we had 3:50 left on the clock and fans started leaving. These were fans wearing SLC garb, not just fans for the evening. Thats almost 4 minutes left on the clock and your team is only down by 8, and I'm thinking, man, have you guys grown so used to winning that the thought of losing sends you stampeding out of the stadium when your down? Man I don't know about you guys, but when I'm at a Burnet game and we're only down by 8 and we've got almost 4 minutes, or 3, or 2, or what ever, man, I ain't going nowhere, there's a good chance something is gonna happen. And if not, I'm gonna be there for the team when the final wistle blows.

Having vented about all this, I need to note that regardless of all the people that feel the need to scamper out of the stadium early, the Dragon's do have an incredible hard core fan base that probably feel the same way I do. They also have an amazing Booster club that are some of the dedicated workers that you will find.

SLC's program is still sound and personally I think everyone is glad this game is out of the way so the team can concentrate on what's really important, persuing the state title. The guys will shake it off and be ok. I have 2 sons in the program and am as proud to be a Dragon dad as I was a Bulldog Dad. Life goes on.:)

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by 3afan
that had to be a record crowd for Ford Stadium - it was amazing

"On September 4, 2004, the attendance record was set at Gerald J. Ford Stadium when 34,495 people watched the Texas Tech Red Raiders face off against the SMU Mustangs. Texas Tech won the game 27-13."

[olddawggreen]

Originally posted by Emerson1
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/8863/695sportsfbhmiamisouthlti0.jpg

Man you had to be sitting right behind me when you took this picture:eek: Sorry I missed seeing all you guys, just turned out to be a crazy night with all the crowd.

Wow, 31,896, a new high school attendance record for both Texas and Florida during a regular season game! It was wild.

[burnet44]

Originally posted by VanKampen
thank you SLC for embarrassing the state of texas. as if UT wasnt good enough...

I dont think SLC is an embarrasment to anyone in Texas
UT ethier

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by olddawggreen
Man you had to be sitting right behind me when you took this picture:eek: Sorry I missed seeing all you guys, just turned out to be a crazy night with all the crowd.

Wow, 31,896, a new high school attendance record for both Texas and Florida during a regular season game! It was wild.
Nope, I stole that from the Miami Herald. I was right on the 50:D

The crowd put all the other ESPNU HS games to shame

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by KTA
My opinion on the game

SLC played SLOPPY. They had a chance to take the lead at half time, but fumbled the ball on the 6 yardline. That one drive Dodge was out if the back up QB throws the ball a lil bit infront of the WR thats 7 points. Dodge threw another TD strike only to have the WR drop the ball as he was coming down in the endzone. They fumbled once after halftime as they were marching down. The missed FG. In my opinion Miami didnt beat them, they beat themselves!!! Miami scored 3 times from 60 yards plus. The 2nd half SLC's D played good all but one play. If there Offense wouldnt of self imploded this game should of easly went SL's way.

On a side note, I really honestly think the majority of Miamis cramps were BS, I think that was their way of slowing down SL's offense...Ive NEVER seen that many cramps in a game....kinda funny they walked fine after they got over to the sidelines....sounds crazy I know, but I really do believe it. And what was up with Miami's head coach walking all the way out on the field and wouldnt listen to the refs trying to get him to go back to the sidelines?
Miami had there share of stupid turnovers to.

Dodge played bad most of the night, I don't think he has seen that much pressure ever. Most of his passes were high the entire game, on the dropped TD pass that receiver was wide open and dodge threw it high making the guy jump and giving the saftey time to get over.

It didn't seem like SLC made any offense adjustments in the second half, NW was able to drop another man back in coverage and still get pressure.

The last touchdown from 75 yards was the only one they had that was over 60 yards.

I wouldn't doubt it, a cramp doesn't last 2 minutes. Did you notice that before the half when the coach went out, he was telling his players where to line up to kneel the ball?

[VanKampen]

Originally posted by burnet44
I dont think SLC is an embarrasment to anyone in Texas
UT ethier
yeah letting a florida team come to texas and beat them isnt embarrassing. ok. texas barely beating ucf isnt embarrassing. it just goes to show that maybe florida has better football players and teams than texas

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by VanKampen
yeah letting a florida team come to texas and beat them isnt embarrassing. ok. texas barely beating ucf isnt embarrassing. it just goes to show that maybe florida has better football players and teams than texas
Ok, but OU destroyed Miami, and 80% of OUs roster is from Texas. I guess it's even now

[olddawggreen]

Originally posted by VanKampen
yeah letting a florida team come to texas and beat them isnt embarrassing. ok. texas barely beating ucf isnt embarrassing. it just goes to show that maybe florida has better football players and teams than texas

I don't know about better, but they different system. It's my understanding that MNW is located in a school district that has 140,000+ students and that transfers within the district are pretty loose. With the academic record of MNW, I don't think these kids are transfering there because of the quality education that they will receive.

There's no question about the talent that MNW brought with them, speed and talent.

I'm just curious VanKampen, since you seem so embarressed about SLC's loss, could your team have done better? :confused:

[3afan]

Originally posted by VanKampen
yeah letting a florida team come to texas and beat them isnt embarrassing. ok. texas barely beating ucf isnt embarrassing. it just goes to show that maybe florida has better football players and teams than texas

it was one team from florida beating one team from texas - says nothing about "florida football" vs. "texas football"

[Emerson1]

And it's not like they won 50-7.

[VanKampen]

Originally posted by olddawggreen
I don't know about better, but they different system. It's my understanding that MNW is located in a school district that has 140,000+ students and that transfers within the district are pretty loose. With the academic record of MNW, I don't think these kids are transfering there because of the quality education that they will receive.

There's no question about the talent that MNW brought with them, speed and talent.

I'm just curious VanKampen, since you seem so embarressed about SLC's loss, could your team have done better? :confused:
my team is the dallas cowboys so i would hope so

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by 3afan
it was one team from florida beating one team from texas - says nothing about "florida football" vs. "texas football" well when no one from Texas has beaten that Texas team since the state championship game what 3 years ago? 4? I'd say SLC did a great job representing Texas. They were outgunned athletically at every position and stayed in the game! hell with all those mistakes it could have been MUCH MUCH worse! 8 pt loss is not terrible, every loss is bad however:(

[KTA]

It also chapped me at the game last night when we had 3:50 left on the clock and fans started leaving. These were fans wearing SLC garb, not just fans for the evening. Thats almost 4 minutes left on the clock and your team is only down by 8

Me too, hell SLC still had all 3 of their timeouts!!! And im being serious, I really truly believe Miami was"cramping up" just to slow down the SLC offense.

[Old Tiger]

I'm one that left with 2 minutes remaining but my dad and I had a 3 hour drive back home and didn't want to wait on traffic.

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by Go Blue
I'm one that left with 2 minutes remaining but my dad and I had a 3 hour drive back home and didn't want to wait on traffic.
We left with about 1:30 left after MNW got a first down. I don't understand why SLC was playing 15 yards off the receivers at the end of the game.

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by VanKampen
my team is the dallas cowboys so i would hope so
Wow your a moron

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Emerson1
We left with about 1:30 left after MNW got a first down. I don't understand why SLC was playing 15 yards off the receivers at the end of the game. I didn't understand why they were playing that far off on the 3rd and about 5-8 because EVERYTIME they were in that situation they just ran all hitches.

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by Go Blue
I didn't understand why they were playing that far off on the 3rd and about 5-8 because EVERYTIME they were in that situation they just ran all hitches.
I understand doing it all the rest of the game, because you don't want to go over to top. But you have to risk it and hope they just overthrow it and you can stop the clock.

[KTA]

heres the question if Todd Dodge was the head coach, does he have this team more prepaird to play? Do they make as many mental errors, and mistakes?

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by KTA
heres the question if Todd Dodge was the head coach, does he have this team more prepaird to play? Do they make as many mental errors, and mistakes? Yes and no.

[kof96]

miami nw was just better.They played sloppy to.I thought southlake was very lucky to only get beat by 8.If both teams played there best with no mistakes miami wins easy.That was one bad ass football team.Who knows there might be a few 5a teams in Texas this year that could beat southlake.

[KTA]

Miami played sloppy, because they play sloppy thats their style. They live and die by the "big play". If they played 10 more times SLC would win 8. All talent, no discipline.

[olddawggreen]

Originally posted by KTA
Me too, hell SLC still had all 3 of their timeouts!!! And im being serious, I really truly believe Miami was"cramping up" just to slow down the SLC offense.

Did you notice that it was only the defensive players that were cramping up? Not one offensive player had a problem with it.

I thought it was kind of funny how liberally the MNW coach used up his time outs, but who needs time outs when you have all the cramps you need and a verrrry attentive trainer who has a verrry slow process of working the cramps out in the middle of the field.

I'll say one thing, if shes not being paid top dollar, she should be, some of those guys weren't even limping by the time they got on the sideline.:D

[Old Tiger]

#99 is the only one that actually really was cramping. He was working it on the sideline for about 5 minutes before he came back in the game. The others just went and sat on the bench.

[KTA]

Did you notice that it was only the defensive players that were cramping up? Not one offensive player had a problem with it.

I was just telling my dad that, im telling you something smells fishy

[Emerson1]

I definetely saw a clash of two cultures in this game, the guy next to me going for MNW hitchhiked part of the way here. On the way out from the game, there were limos parked outside the stadium with SLC flags on them.

[sweetwater07]

i noticed that as soon as SLC started getting some momentum and maybe threatening a score....BOOM...Cramp from MNW.....not to mention the 5 mins. it took for them to relax it out.....
in my opinion it was a tactic to ruin any momentum that SLC would get....very unethical

[sweetwater07]

Originally posted by Emerson1
I definetely saw a clash of two cultures in this game, the guy next to me going for MNW hitchhiked part of the way here. On the way out from the game, there were limos parked outside the stadium with SLC flags on them.


did you sit on the grass under the scoreboard??

[sweetwater07]

Originally posted by olddawggreen
Did you notice that it was only the defensive players that were cramping up? Not one offensive player had a problem with it.

I thought it was kind of funny how liberally the MNW coach used up his time outs, but who needs time outs when you have all the cramps you need and a verrrry attentive trainer who has a verrry slow process of working the cramps out in the middle of the field.

I'll say one thing, if shes not being paid top dollar, she should be, some of those guys weren't even limping by the time they got on the sideline.:D


i'm glad someone else noticed this because i was screaming the whole time these "cramps" were going on....its was blatant , idk how anyone else could say it wasn't

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Emerson1
I definetely saw a clash of two cultures in this game, the guy next to me going for MNW hitchhiked part of the way here. On the way out from the game, there were limos parked outside the stadium with SLC flags on them. lmao! beautiful thing about football is once the pads are on the king and pauper cannot be differentiated! wish i could have been there!:cool:

[sectionCwannabe]

plain and simple you cant win them all, good job Dragons

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by sweetwater07
did you sit on the grass under the scoreboard??
No, I was on the MNW side right on the 50

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Emerson1
No, I was on the MNW side right on the 50 I was sitting on the 40.

[sweetwater07]

Originally posted by Emerson1
No, I was on the MNW side right on the 50

my friends and I were sitting on the grass under the scoreboard and there was a guy sitting behind me from miami that had a huge beard and looked homeless that said he hitchhiked to the game too.......the Miami fans were extreme at this game

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by sweetwater07
my friends and I were sitting on the grass under the scoreboard and there was a guy sitting behind me from miami that had a huge beard and looked homeless that said he hitchhiked to the game too.......the Miami fans were extreme at this game I was really impressed with how well the traveled.

[sweetwater07]

Originally posted by Go Blue
I was really impressed with how well the traveled.

no joke....southlake still outnumbered them 10-1 but still...i expected maybe 300 Miami fans and there were more like 1000

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by sweetwater07
no joke....southlake still outnumbered them 10-1 but still...i expected maybe 300 Miami fans and there were more like 1000
I didn't notice that many, when MNW scored you could barely hear anything and I was right in the middle of them. 1000 would of made some noise.

[Bull19]

i just watched a documentary on mnw on you tube called "year of the bull".........it made me sick to my stomach..the coaches and players shouldnt be allowed to touch a football field. most undisiplined staff and players in the country without a doubt in my mind.....after reading all of yalls post about them possibly faking cramps leaves me without a doubt in my mind that they did. and im sure that they did more "cheating" type of things as well. that video made me sick to my stomach

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Bull19
i just watched a documentary on mnw on you tube called "year of the bull".........it made me sick to my stomach..the coaches and players shouldnt be allowed to touch a football field. most undisiplined staff and players in the country without a doubt in my mind.....after reading all of yalls post about them possibly faking cramps leaves me without a doubt in my mind that they did. and im sure that they did more "cheating" type of things as well. that video made me sick to my stomach Too bad that video was filmed in 2002 season and released in 2003. None of the coaches or players are there anymore and the program is better off. That video is a mute point on the team they have now and if you ever watch the whole video instead of just what that shows on youtube it is a very good movie.

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by Bull19
i just watched a documentary on mnw on you tube called "year of the bull".........it made me sick to my stomach..the coaches and players shouldnt be allowed to touch a football field. most undisiplined staff and players in the country without a doubt in my mind.....after reading all of yalls post about them possibly faking cramps leaves me without a doubt in my mind that they did. and im sure that they did more "cheating" type of things as well. that video made me sick to my stomach
That was made in 2002, those players and the entire coaching staff isn't even there anymore.

How many times is that video gonna be talked about on here?

[sweetwater07]

Originally posted by Emerson1
That was made in 2002, those players and the entire coaching staff isn't even there anymore.

How many times is that video gonna be talked about on here?


even though the players and coaches on that video aren't there anymore...it gives you a kind of idea how that program is.......just because the coaches are gone doens't mean the players aren't still in the rythem of that kind of program

[Bull19]

Originally posted by sweetwater07
even though the players and coaches on that video aren't there anymore...it gives you a kind of idea how that program is.......just because the coaches are gone doens't mean the players aren't still in the rythem of that kind of program

exactly..its not like all those thugs became angels...they are same they were back then,,,criminals

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Bull19
exactly..its not like all those thugs became angels...they are same they were back then,,,criminals This is the worst stereotyping by both of you I've heard. Totally different group of kids but you still consider them thugs.:rolleyes:

[sweetwater07]

Originally posted by Go Blue
This is the worst stereotyping by both of you I've heard. Totally different group of kids but you still consider them thugs.:rolleyes:


i don't want to stereotype anyone or anything...but after seeing the way there fans acted and the way they talked after the game....it wouldn't surprise me if they were all still thugs....i know it sounds bad..but thats just what i come to the conclusion of after the game

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by sweetwater07
i don't want to stereotype anyone or anything...but after seeing the way there fans acted and the way they talked after the game....it wouldn't surprise me if they were all still thugs....i know it sounds bad..but thats just what i come to the conclusion of after the game
Most of the fans were pretty bad, but I was expecting it.

[3afan]

the MNW fans around me were bad at times ..... especially when there was a penalty called against them

but i heard some bad things from 'locals' too

[sweetwater07]

the fans around me were trying their best to get a reaction from the SLC fans....acting wildly about anything that went in MNW favor and looking up into the crowd to make sure everyone saw them.....kind of annoying but most the ppl around me laughed at them for being immature...so the joke was on them

[KTA]

i don't want to stereotype anyone or anything...but after seeing the way there fans acted and the way they talked after the game....it wouldn't surprise me if they were all still thugs....i know it sounds bad..but thats just what i come to the conclusion of after the game

Glad I wasnt the only one who thought this....I just didnt want to be the 1st one to say it

[VAMike]

Originally posted by sweetwater07
no joke....southlake still outnumbered them 10-1 but still...i expected maybe 300 Miami fans and there were more like 1000

Is it possible that some or maybe even many of the MNW fans were actually folks from the Metroplex who are SLC haters and took advantage of the chance to root for someone with a decent chance to knock off SLC? Just the cynic in me I guess.

[KTA]

from what I seen, most of them looked like Edgerrin James....pretty sure they were from Miami

[VAMike]

Originally posted by KTA
from what I seen, most of them looked like Edgerrin James....pretty sure they were from Miami

There is nobody who looks like that in Dalls ????

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by VAMike
Is it possible that some or maybe even many of the MNW fans were actually folks from the Metroplex who are SLC haters and took advantage of the chance to root for someone with a decent chance to knock off SLC? Just the cynic in me I guess.
I read in the miami herald that 4,000 people from Miami made the trip.


I read also that the ex-head coach Roland Smith was in attendance to. I thought I saw him, before the game in warmups all the players were going by the endzone stands and shaking hands with some guy. I figured he was either an ex coach or a famous alumni. Don't know what Smith looks like though

[KTA]

There is nobody who looks like that in Dalls ????

Didnt say that, but thats not the style here like it is in Miami (the long hair minus the perm)

[sweetwater07]

i'd just say i wouldn't want to see any of their fans in a dark alley at night....a stab wound would not have fit well with me..

[olddawggreen]

Originally posted by VAMike
Is it possible that some or maybe even many of the MNW fans were actually folks from the Metroplex who are SLC haters and took advantage of the chance to root for someone with a decent chance to knock off SLC? Just the cynic in me I guess.

It's very possible. I am always amazed at the level of resentment that I see directed at the Dragons. Just human nature for some people I guess. But over all, the support that I saw coming from people all over the state was overwhelming.

[olddawggreen]

Just a note from the fiel, My son came home from practice yesterday and said that most of the players that he talked to had commented on how good the MNW players acted on the field. Very quick to help a SLC player up or make a curtious comment. Very little, if any, trash talk during the game.

He was told that MNW had scouted the Dragons and had watched so much film on them, including most of last years, that they pretty much knew all of the SLC signals and had a player calling out the plays as soon as they came in. This is no easy accomplishment, considering SLC changes up their signals for the plays as the game progresses. These guys had been preparing for this game for awhile. You got to gime them credit, they were prepared and came to tend to business.

[Rabbit'93]

Has anyone seen the video on you tube "the year of the bull"?

[3afan]

Originally posted by Rabbit'93
Has anyone seen the video on you tube "the year of the bull"?

its been posted and talked about repeatedly on this board - but its irrelevant to this team & this game

[burnet44]

Originally posted by olddawggreen
It's very possible. I am always amazed at the level of resentment that I see directed at the Dragons. Just human nature for some people I guess. But over all, the support that I saw coming from people all over the state was overwhelming.

people hate winners
congrats odg