THSCA All Star Game

[piratebg]

South 7
North 0
End of 1st

For the most part, the South has been pretty dominant on both sides.

[setxsports]

Go South!!

[Cameron Crazy]

How is Chance McCoy doing?
Can't get it here in Florida!

[KTA]

from what ive seen hes been in 2 times. They just tried throwing to him, but the ball was a lil behind. They did a interview with his dad and Colt though (go figure lol)....ill keep ya updated

[Cameron Crazy]

thanks kta. i owe you

[KTA]

was just in again, the QB rolled out his way (looks like he ran a out route). The QB threw to the other receiver and it was picked off by the LB jumping the route.

[piratebg]

The passing game really hasn't been there for the North. The South, however, is looking pretty good.

[piratebg]

Now that was a wacky play :clap: :clap: :clap:

[KTA]

DANG DID YALL JUST SEE THAT? LOL poor kid

[piratebg]

South had 4th and 7. QB fumles the ball. North defender recovers and is off the the races. Fumbles the ball on his own and South recovers. 1st and 10 South. I love it. :D

[KTA]

QB fumbled the ball, north LB scooped it up ran, dropped it, bobbled it around some more, and the south ends up recovering it again. it was 3rd and long, and if that kid doesnt bobble it he scores 6

[KTA]

sorry pirate :D

[piratebg]

No problem at all. That play was just too funny to keep to ourselves. :D

[KTA]

the norths play calling sucks

[piratebg]

I really don't like their offense either. They are running a wishbone, right? The South is running a spread and having a little more success moving the ball.

[LH Panther Mom]

LH - wishbone??????? LMAO! :doh:

[KTA]

1:13 left in the half, South fixing to punt

[piratebg]

Fake punt goes good for the South!!!

[setxsports]

My boy Brandon Williams from Beaumont Central running for a 1st down on fake punt.

[piratebg]

A lot of dropped balls by the South.

[piratebg]

And penalties for that matter.

[KTA]

Chance just ran a post, but the qb didnt even give him a look

[piratebg]

South 7
North 0
Halftime

[LH Panther Mom]

Tank Carder is having a good game! :)

[pirate4state]

I just started watching and now I have to leave AGAIN! :mad: :mad:

[gold_33]

Hey LHPM how do feel about a Panther getting coached by a Texan? LOL! Good game though the south is running Wimberley's D and having about as much success with it, the North can't do anything.

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by gold_33
Hey LHPM how do feel about a Panther getting coached by a Texan? LOL!

Oh boy --- that's a loaded question!!! :eek: :eek:

LMAO!

[Blastoderm55]

Hahaha, Dave Campbell was so hitting on those girls from Max Preps! :D

[TexanAlum_06]

from the looks of it Wimberleys entire staff is there, I thought it was just coach nelms but its cool to see all of them there. Those kids are in for a treat, Nelmsie is as old fashioned as they come! LOL. some stuff he says can leave you scratching your head! haha. I was a little anxious to see how he would handle the halftime Tv spot! Tank Carder is impressive. it is good to finally see him play after hearing his name all season long. Coach Smith has the defense clicking!

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by gold_33
Hey LHPM how do feel about a Panther getting coached by a Texan? LOL! :p I believe we've had an ex-Panther there a couple of years already. (Traitor.... :D )

[gold_33]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
:p I believe we've had an ex-Panther there a couple of years already. (Traitor.... :D )

LOL!! Yeah thanks again for that one he's gonna be a stud....its good to our local 3A boys getting to play in this game.

[piratebg]

South North

First Downs 6 2
Rushing Yards 34 39
Passing Yards 65 0
Total Offense 99 39
Turnovers 2 2
Third Down 2/8 1/6
Possession 12:46 11:14

[KTA]

Listening to my old coach (Jackson) talk made me feel 17 again

[KTA]

feel 17 again

man im getting old

[piratebg]

Halftime felt like it took forever.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by piratebg
Halftime felt like it took forever. It's because there was no rush to make the halftime M&G picture and make it back to your seat before the 2nd half started. :D

[wimbo_pro]

"Michael Buse has some wheels on him!!..."
"He's gonna be a good one!!.."

I just couldn't resist!!!

Go Mickey!!!!!!!!

[piratebg]

He had a pretty good run on that last drive.

[piratebg]

Well, the North is driving now. 1st and 10 at about the South 25yd line.

[wimbo_pro]

Yeah...but in these games, they spread it around so much, it's possible 30 yards or so can give you the most yards gained!!!

[wimbo_pro]

Yeah mikey!!!!!!

[piratebg]

Kerley from Hutto gets the big 3rd down pick for the South and returns it to the North 39yd line.

[piratebg]

South goes 4 and out. North gets the ball at their 39.

[KTA]

all this running from the north is making me sick

[piratebg]

Well, they really can't pass the ball either.

[KTA]

but atleast there ints are turning out to be the same as a punt....when you only throw to your right it becomes obvious (how many times has he thrown to the right?)

[KTA]

that play for example

[piratebg]

You mean how many times has he rolled to the right. He hasn't pulled off that many throws. Either the coverage is that good or the pressure is making him keep it.

[KTA]

are those rolls to the right all on the coach?

[piratebg]

Originally posted by KTA
are those rolls to the right all on him?


It's like you said earlier, the play calling for the North is just horrible.

1st down run.
2nd down run.
3rd down maybe pass but usually run.
4th down punt.

[piratebg]

Buse is having a pretty darn good night.

[piratebg]

TD SOUTH!!!

[piratebg]

South 14
North 0
4th quarter

[piratebg]

Welch threw an 11yd TD pass to Tate who made a really nice diving catch in the endzone.

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by piratebg
Buse is having a pretty darn good night.

Yes he is, Piratebg. We are tickled pink over it too!!! He is off to college straight from this game...we couldn't be prouder (if you couldnt tell!!)

[KTA]

Chance McCoy just caught a 20 yard drag route

[piratebg]

Damn the North is rolling now. First a 22yd run and now McCoy gets the first catch for the North, a 19yd catch.

[piratebg]

And they are still going. 1st and goal at the 6 with 5:12 left in the game.

[piratebg]

And the North fumbles on the QB keeper and the South recovers. 4:58 left

[piratebg]

1st down at the 6 for the South and they lose 4yds. 2nd down at the 2.

[piratebg]

On 3rd down the North gets the sack right between the 1 and the goal line.

[piratebg]

The South gets the punt off and the North takes over at the South 39.

[piratebg]

McCoy gets his second catch for couple of yards. I think like 3 or 4.

[piratebg]

The North goes 4 and out. The South gets the ball back with 37 seconds left. That should be it. South wins 14-0.

[piratebg]

South QB Jeff Welch is the game/offensive MVP.

[gold_33]

Man good game by the south alot of 3A boys representing and showing they can play ball no matter what classification. It was great to see Buse running the ball as good as he did one last time before he heads off for college.

[Cameron Crazy]

Who won the game?

[piratebg]

South won 14-0. :)

[Cameron Crazy]

well. dang. good job south.:clap:

[LH OffseasonVet]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
LH - wishbone??????? LMAO! :doh:

That announcer is constantly making mis-statements about LH, I heard a number of them from him during the season.

[wimbo_pro]

Though I would obviously be biased about who should have been the MVP of the South...I can't disagree with the selection of the QB. He did a great, solid job.

[g$$]

Lots of people got to see tonight what a bunch of us have known for quite some time: Sweeny's Tank Carder is an animal on the football field. Double digit tackles, had an interception, sideline to sideline all night, helped cause a big fumble, & even did the kicking. His best days are ahead of him at TCU as he gets bigger & stronger & learns the game more (technique, etc.). Just a phenomenal athlete whose motor never stops. TCU got a steal on Signing Day.

Also impressed with Jeremy Kerley (Hutto), Michael Buse (Wimberley), Chris Tate (Hempstead), Earl Thomas (WOS), Chance McCoy (Graham), & the kid from Iola. Tray Allen was a beast too for the North along with Malcom Williams. All in all, the 3A & below kids did well & the South shut them out.

[wimbo_pro]

Great clarification, G$$!!!! LOLOOL

[ASUFrisbeeStud]

Did anyone else think it was funny that when they went over the 3a Preseason poll that they mentioned every team but Snyder?

[celinaorange]

I have just witnessed the poorest offensively prepared high school football team ever. I realize that there is not much time to prepare, but the offensive scheme, player selection and play selection by the North was very poor. The south coaching staff did an excellent job in preparing and it was clearly evident that they out prepared and out coached the north. Don't think that I would want to play a team coached by the south coaching staff this season. Just my opinion (which is worth about a cup of coffee, if you add $1 to it).

[kaorder1999]

i was VERY disappointed with this game. It was by far the most boring all star game I have ever seen. As for as the North goes, it is VERY hard to have success running the wishbone in an allstar game. You have to spread out the defense because there are 11 great defenders out there. And in pass situations it seemed like the majority of time there were only 2 receivers in route and that is just too hard to do. South staff did it right and spread the field and forced the defense to work a little more.

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by kaorder1999
i was VERY disappointed with this game. It was by far the most boring all star game I have ever seen. As for as the North goes, it is VERY hard to have success running the wishbone in an allstar game. You have to spread out the defense because there are 11 great defenders out there. And in pass situations it seemed like the majority of time there were only 2 receivers in route and that is just too hard to do. South staff did it right and spread the field and forced the defense to work a little more.
This takes the place of Kaufman vs Commerce in the 05 playoffs as the most boring game I have ever seen.

[kaorder1999]

The north had a 3500 + yard passer and ran the bone and I formation. Hard to understand.

[Emerson1]

I wonder if he knew ahead of time they were gonna be running that.

Is that what sweetwater runs? I don't remember them running that last time I saw them play.

[kaorder1999]

Originally posted by Emerson1
I wonder if he knew ahead of time they were gonna be running that.

Is that what sweetwater runs? I don't remember them running that last time I saw them play.

im guessing that is what Sweetwater runs.

[KTA]

Sweetwater runs a flex bone, that was closer to what Vernon runs....reguardless it was UGLY

[g$$]

Called Tank Carder after the game to congratulate him on great game, win, & being named Defensive MVP. He was excited. He talked about playing with future TCU teammates, etc. Said he took 6 stitches at halftime to the chin & kept playing. Tough kid & wish him all the best.

(no relation to me, used to coach him in baseball & family friend)

[g$$]

Aug. 1, 2007, 2:00AM
THSCA ALL-STAR FOOTBALL GAME
Cy Falls' Welch shines in South's 14-0 win over North
QB receives MVP honors on offense; Sweeny's Carder gets nod on defense

By SAM KHAN JR.
Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle


FORT WORTH — Jeff Welch capped off a memorable season the only way he knew how — by guiding his team to a victory.

The Cypress Falls quarterback was 9-for-21 passing for 102 yards and a touchdown to lift the South All-Stars to a 14-0 victory over the North All-Stars on Tuesday night in the Texas High School Coaches Association All-Star Game at Amon Carter Stadium.

For his efforts, Welch, a Sam Houston State signee, garnered the game's offensive Most Valuable Player honors.


'It's a great honor'

"It was so awesome just being a part of this," said Welch, who guided Cypress Falls to the Class 5A Division II state title game in December. "These are some of the best players in Texas, and it's a great honor."

Welch wasn't the only Greater Houston area player to make an impact, though. Sweeny linebacker/kicker Tank Carder was named the game's defensive MVP after recording nine tackles, including 1 1/2 tackles for loss, a sack and an interception.

Carder, who also handled kickoff duties and converted both point-after touchdown attempts, did it on the field on which he will be playing — he's a TCU signee.

"It's great to finish off my high school career like this," Carder said. "It's definitely a great way to start off on my new home field."

Other area players to contribute included Brenham's Brandon Collins (two catches, 31 yards) and Westside's Alonzo Adams (two catches, 21 yards) and Texas City defensive lineman Sean Warren, who recovered a first-half fumble.

Welch engineered the South's only two scoring drives. The opening drive, an 11-play, 64-yard march, was capped by a 2-yard run by McAllen Memorial running back Bradley Stephens to give the South a 7-0 lead with 5:51 remaining in the first quarter. Welch went 2-for-4 for 36 yards, which included a 24-yard strike to Collins that set up Stephens' score. Welch also carried the ball three times for 22 yards on the drive.


On second thought
Each team was scoreless until the fourth quarter.

That's when Welch went back to work by going 4-for-4 for 43 yards as part of a 12-play, 82-yard drive that ended in a 10-yard TD pass to Hempstead's Chris Tate. Initially the play was ruled an incomplete pass but after the officials conferred, Tate, a UH signee, was awarded the score. He finished with a game-high three catches for 36 yards.

sam.khan@chron.com

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by Emerson1
I wonder if he knew ahead of time they were gonna be running that.

Is that what sweetwater runs? I don't remember them running that last time I saw them play.

What you seen is what we run...minus the passing. and the 3500 yd. passer sucked balls at passing tonight. They got it clicking on the option read out of shotgun but then that 3500 yd. passer fumbled but it wouldnt have mattered. Its hard to jump right back into it when most are preparring for their D1 days.

[catman]

This game was so great that I fell asleep before the 1st Q was over

[g$$]

Originally posted by catman
This game was so great that I fell asleep before the 1st Q was over

Not much O, lots of D. Very rare for an all star game, but I enjoyed it. It's football & I was rooting for Tank & the South!

[3afan]

Originally posted by catman
This game was so great that I fell asleep before the 1st Q was over

these all star games usually are pretty much sleepers ... not even sure why they have them since most players are already committed to a college anyway ...... those thats are listed as "undecided" obviously weren't offered a scholarship by anyone, or at least none the player accepted. maybe the game could showcase these playersa at least and get them on at a college ...... in fact maybe this allstar game should be for "unsigned" players (?)

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by 3afan
these all star games usually are pretty much sleepers ... not even sure why they have them since most players are already committed to a college anyway ......
Gives the coaches something to do during coaching school. ;)

[3afan]

Stockyards would be a better option - at least when they are in FW

[catman]

Originally posted by 3afan
...... in fact maybe this allstar game should be for "unsigned" players (?)

Basically, that's about what the FCA all-star game in Abilene is. It's always been my favorite of the genre. Most of the players are unsigned and will have to walk on at any college to get to play at the next level. For many, it will be their last game. It is always a hard fought game.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Emerson1
This takes the place of Kaufman vs Commerce in the 05 playoffs as the most boring game I have ever seen.

I guess I can be happy that I didn't watch a single down of it then!!

My daughter bought me "Rock the 80's"....so I played that after I got home!

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by 3afan
these all star games usually are pretty much sleepers ... not even sure why they have them since most players are already committed to a college anyway ...... those thats are listed as "undecided" obviously weren't offered a scholarship by anyone, or at least none the player accepted. maybe the game could showcase these playersa at least and get them on at a college ...... in fact maybe this allstar game should be for "unsigned" players (?)

I saw that Chance McCoy was listed as unsigned. I thought he signed with ACU on signing day. Did something change?

[g$$]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
I saw that Chance McCoy was listed as unsigned. I thought he signed with ACU on signing day. Did something change?

I saw an interview with Colt where he mentioned his brother going to Abilene Christian. I would go with that.

[lion75]

Originally posted by ASUFrisbeeStud
Did anyone else think it was funny that when they went over the 3a Preseason poll that they mentioned every team but Snyder? I think Snyder gave Vernon the hardest time in the playoffs last year in Region 1 and should definately be top 10 with all they have coming back.

[burnet44]

i talked to Coach Jackson after the game. One thing that hurt them was the Middlebrook kid from L-E not being there. He was in Florida at a baseball thing. He was drafted in the 5th round and was trying to up his stock. That left Kent with 2 qb's. He ran a little bone with both kids and since the Green kid is not a great passer, they put in the running game. As amny of you dont know with the spread you paas block a lot going backward. Another reason the running game had problems was many of the linemen had to go foward instead of backward. And not just block down and run x trap or zone read. The rt OT for the South wore out the kid from Waco High IMHO. It was a pretty good game. Dont blame the coaches. The turnovers were a big part of the lack of offensice fireworks.

[kaorder1999]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
What you seen is what we run...minus the passing. and the 3500 yd. passer sucked balls at passing tonight. They got it clicking on the option read out of shotgun but then that 3500 yd. passer fumbled but it wouldnt have mattered. Its hard to jump right back into it when most are preparring for their D1 days.

you cant expect to throw the ball in al allstar game when you are running the bone. It just doesnt happen. those defenders are too good. It was the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Stupid choice by Jackson. Nelms did it right. You adjust the offense to the players you have.

[Stownhorse]

2 different styles of coaching. Did you expect to run the same offense?

[shadow13]

Originally posted by kaorder1999
you cant expect to throw the ball in al allstar game when you are running the bone. It just doesnt happen. those defenders are too good. It was the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Stupid choice by Jackson. Nelms did it right. You adjust the offense to the players you have. I have been saying the same thing for the last 3-4 yrs. Sweetwater has been fortunate to have alot of good athletes over the yrs. but all of that talent has been wasted especially the last 3 yrs. A good Coach will ADJUST THE OFFENSE TO THE PLAYERS HE HAS AND NOT PLAY FAVORITISM! Too bad Coach Stapler didn't have a chance to coach the talent we had the last 3yrs.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
2 different styles of coaching. Did you expect to run the same offense? I know you are a die hard mustang fan , but you should face reality, The Sweetwater Coach will never be a good Coach in 3A or up , I think he should be coaching 6-man or maybe 1A.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by burnet44
i talked to Coach Jackson after the game. One thing that hurt them was the Middlebrook kid from L-E not being there. He was in Florida at a baseball thing. He was drafted in the 5th round and was trying to up his stock. That left Kent with 2 qb's. He ran a little bone with both kids and since the Green kid is not a great passer, they put in the running game. As amny of you dont know with the spread you paas block a lot going backward. Another reason the running game had problems was many of the linemen had to go foward instead of backward. And not just block down and run x trap or zone read. The rt OT for the South wore out the kid from Waco High IMHO. It was a pretty good game. Dont blame the coaches. The turnovers were a big part of the lack of offensice fireworks. I have been watching this Coach for yrs. now and trust me it's the play calling. The people in Sweetwater already know what play it is whenever they break the huddle. Just watching the playoffs last yr. it appeared the other teams knew who was getting the ball too.Sweetwater went as far as they did in the playoffs the last 3yrs. because of talent alone not coaching, the coaching kept them from going to state.

[Emerson1]

You can't blame the coaches for running their system, blame the people who picked a coach knowing they would be running a system that 99% of the players had never played in.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Emerson1
You can't blame the coaches for running their system, blame the people who picked a coach knowing they would be running a system that 99% of the players had never played in. Well politics had something to do with that, knowing the right people can put you in the right places, whether you deserve it or not.

[DU_stud04]

Originally posted by shadow13
I have been saying the same thing for the last 3-4 yrs. Sweetwater has been fortunate to have alot of good athletes over the yrs. but all of that talent has been wasted especially the last 3 yrs. A good Coach will ADJUST THE OFFENSE TO THE PLAYERS HE HAS AND NOT PLAY FAVORITISM! Too bad Coach Stapler didn't have a chance to coach the talent we had the last 3yrs. totally agree. sweetwater's had alot of talent over the years.... from late 80 till late 90s and again starting again from 2000 till last year. with the terry clemmers, moses brown, robert reed, andrew boatright, mychael and kendal carrillo, willie amos, banyard, skye..... there a long list a lot of the 3a posters wont recognize unless they followed 4a ball. ritchey was a good coach, would take sweetwater deep and blow it in the playoffs. jackson is a good guy, but i dont think he should be a head coach. any past players will agree with me. its hard to win a game when you only rotate 3-4 plays, one year, he had us run the same play 7-8 times in a row. you may say, if you got more than the 3 tries, maybe something was working, but thats when the athleticism came into play and made things happen. you can only out run so many people before you get caught, which is what kills us in the playoffs. sweetwaters had very good qb's as far back as i can remember, and good receivers as well. nobody would ever say anything about it since at most sweetwater attempts maybe 5 passes a game. at most. why defend the pass if they arent going to pass?

this will be a rough season for the boys in red, good luck to them, maybe holsey and company can make some magic happen....because we sure know it will not come from the sidelines.

[DU_stud04]

Originally posted by shadow13
Well politics had something to do with that, knowing the right people can put you in the right places, whether you deserve it or not. agreed again.

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by shadow13
I know you are a die hard mustang fan , but you should face reality, The Sweetwater Coach will never be a good Coach in 3A or up , I think he should be coaching 6-man or maybe 1A.


Ive faced reality ages ago. What did it help? Nothing. I am a fan yes, a fan of the coaching style, no. But what are you gunna do as a fan and former player? You cant sit around and pout about it.