Class 3A Top 100 (Pre-Season)

[charlesrixey]

Self-explanatory:

This is something i have done for 10 years (mostly in 2A) through my website (which is no longer active). I predict district standings, then rank the teams in their regions, then take all four lists and add them together to create this list. This is wholly subjective to my personal opinions, and going through the process some teams end up in surprising positions because the district standings are based upon projections for the upcoming year---so i expect a lot of complaints.

i can already predict some hotspots, such as columbus ranked above Columbia, Snyder not in the top 5, Dallas Madison ranked below Carrollton Ranchview (and thus fourth in their district)-but i call them as i see them (granted most of this is based on information about teams and players from DCTF), however i think i am quite thorough. I know there are plenty of mistakes, and i know some people will not agree, but if you have information you think is pertinent, let me know. I am always open to ideas, but if you argue at a second grade level then i will assume you know about that much about football and ignore any 'pointers' you might give. Other than that, this is my fourth year doing this for 3A (2002-2003, 2006), and i think my top 10 is fairly accurate, definately more so than TF.

Class 3A Top 100
Preseason 2007

1. Liberty Hill (13-2)
2. Celina (15-1)
3. Giddings (13-1)
4. Royse City (11-2)
5. Texarkana Liberty-Eylau (12-3)
6. Gilmer (10-1)
7. Robinson (12-3)
8. Graham (7-6)
9. Snyder (9-4)
10. Ingleside (12-2)
11. Kirbyville (8-4)
12. Prosper (8-3)
13. Needville (7-3)
14. West Orange-Stark (11-1)
15. Abilene Wylie (9-3)
16. Port Isabel (9-3)
17. Wimberley (12-2)
18. Canyon (11-3)
19. Vernon (9-6)
20. Pleasonton (7-6)
21. Sweeny (10-3)
22. Texarkana Pleasant Grove (4-8)
23. Andrews (5-8)
24. Cuero (12-1)
25. Wharton (9-3)
26. Medina Valley (8-4)
27. Decatur (10-1)
28. Tyler Chapel Hill (6-6)
29. China Spring (9-3)
30. Rusk (9-3)
31. Midland Greenwood (12-2)
32. Carthage (7-3)
33. Hutto (7-3)
34. Monahans (9-2)
35. Palestine (9-3)
36. Coldspring Oakhurst (7-4)
37. Silsbee (9-3)
38. Rio Hondo (10-2)
39. Hondo (14-1)
40. Argyle (7-4)
41. Iowa Park (5-5)
42. Burkburnett (7-3)
43. Waco La Vega (10-1)
44. Crockett (7-5)
45. Diboll (8-3)
46. Lake Worth (8-4)
47. Sweetwater (9-3)
48. Canton (8-5)
49. Kennedale (8-4)
50. Bellville (8-3)
51. Navasota (3-7)
52. Atlanta (6-6)
53. Wichita Falls Hirschi (7-4)
54. Glen Rose (5-6)
55. Raymondville (7-5)
56. La Vernia (8-4)
57. Luling (7-4)
58. Kaufman (5-6)
59. Madisonville (7-4)
60. Orange Grove (11-2)
61. Yoakum (5-6)
62. Llano (7-5)
63. La Feria (8-3)
64. Caldwell (5-5)
65. Dallas Roosevelt (7-4)
66. La Grange (8-3)
67. West (8-3)
68. Clint (9-2)
69. Frisco Wakeland (3-7)
70. Pilot Point (8-5)
71. Waco Connally (4-6)
72. Wills Point (4-6)
73. Van (6-4)
74. Brownsboro (10-4)
75. Jasper (2-8)
76. Palestine Westwood (6-4)
77. Pearsall (3-8)
78. Crandall (5-6)
79. Devine (9-2)
80. Carrollton Ranchview (4-6)
81. Dallas Madison (11-1)
82. Corpus Christi West Oso (4-6)
83. Splendora (6-5)
84. Fort Stockton (7-4)
85. Longview Spring Hill (6-5)
86. Lytle (6-5)
87. Sinton (4-7)
88. Hillsboro (5-5)
89. Seminole (8-3)
90. Palacios (3-7)
91. Columbus (3-7)
92. West Columbia (8-3)
93. Bridgeport (2-8)
94. Gonzales (3-8)
95. Commerce (3-7)
96. Breckenridge (6-4)
97. Cameron Yoe (6-5)
98. Somerset (4-6)
99. Quinlan-Ford (6-6)
100. Gainesville (1-9)

Regional Distribution:
I-20
II-27
III-32
IV-21

Top 25:
I-6
II-6
III-8
IV-5

If you've known me for a while, it's likely you've seen this kind of stuff before. If not, get used to it!
:)

Be merciful!

[Snydertigersrul]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
Self-explanatory:

This is something i have done for 10 years (mostly in 2A) through my website (which is no longer active). I predict district standings, then rank the teams in their regions, then take all four lists and add them together to create this list. This is wholly subjective to my personal opinions, and going through the process some teams end up in surprising positions because the district standings are based upon projections for the upcoming year---so i expect a lot of complaints.

i can already predict some hotspots, such as columbus ranked above Columbia, Snyder not in the top 5, Dallas Madison ranked below Carrollton Ranchview (and thus fourth in their district)-but i call them as i see them (granted most of this is based on information about teams and players from DCTF), however i think i am quite thorough. I know there are plenty of mistakes, and i know some people will not agree, but if you have information you think is pertinent, let me know. I am always open to ideas, but if you argue at a second grade level then i will assume you know about that much about football and ignore any 'pointers' you might give. Other than that, this is my fourth year doing this for 3A (2002-2003, 2006), and i think my top 10 is fairly accurate, definately more so than TF.

Class 3A Top 100
Preseason 2007

1. Liberty Hill (13-2)
2. Celina (15-1)
3. Giddings (13-1)
4. Royse City (11-2)
5. Texarkana Liberty-Eylau (12-3)
6. Gilmer (10-1)
7. Robinson (12-3)
8. Graham (7-6)
9. Snyder (9-4)
10. Ingleside (12-2)
11. Kirbyville (8-4)
12. Prosper (8-3)
13. Needville (7-3)
14. West Orange-Stark (11-1)
15. Abilene Wylie (9-3)
16. Port Isabel (9-3)
17. Wimberley (12-2)
18. Canyon (11-3)
19. Vernon (9-6)
20. Pleasonton (7-6)
21. Sweeny (10-3)
22. Texarkana Pleasant Grove (4-8)
23. Andrews (5-8)
24. Cuero (12-1)
25. Wharton (9-3)
26. Medina Valley (8-4)
27. Decatur (10-1)
28. Tyler Chapel Hill (6-6)
29. China Spring (9-3)
30. Rusk (9-3)
31. Midland Greenwood (12-2)
32. Carthage (7-3)
33. Hutto (7-3)
34. Monahans (9-2)
35. Palestine (9-3)
36. Coldspring Oakhurst (7-4)
37. Silsbee (9-3)
38. Rio Hondo (10-2)
39. Hondo (14-1)
40. Argyle (7-4)
41. Iowa Park (5-5)
42. Burkburnett (7-3)
43. Waco La Vega (10-1)
44. Crockett (7-5)
45. Diboll (8-3)
46. Lake Worth (8-4)
47. Sweetwater (9-3)
48. Canton (8-5)
49. Kennedale (8-4)
50. Bellville (8-3)
51. Navasota (3-7)
52. Atlanta (6-6)
53. Wichita Falls Hirschi (7-4)
54. Glen Rose (5-6)
55. Raymondville (7-5)
56. La Vernia (8-4)
57. Luling (7-4)
58. Kaufman (5-6)
59. Madisonville (7-4)
60. Orange Grove (11-2)
61. Yoakum (5-6)
62. Llano (7-5)
63. La Feria (8-3)
64. Caldwell (5-5)
65. Dallas Roosevelt (7-4)
66. La Grange (8-3)
67. West (8-3)
68. Clint (9-2)
69. Frisco Wakeland (3-7)
70. Pilot Point (8-5)
71. Waco Connally (4-6)
72. Wills Point (4-6)
73. Van (6-4)
74. Brownsboro (10-4)
75. Jasper (2-8)
76. Palestine Westwood (6-4)
77. Pearsall (3-8)
78. Crandall (5-6)
79. Devine (9-2)
80. Carrollton Ranchview (4-6)
81. Dallas Madison (11-1)
82. Corpus Christi West Oso (4-6)
83. Splendora (6-5)
84. Fort Stockton (7-4)
85. Longview Spring Hill (6-5)
86. Lytle (6-5)
87. Sinton (4-7)
88. Hillsboro (5-5)
89. Seminole (8-3)
90. Palacios (3-7)
91. Columbus (3-7)
92. West Columbia (8-3)
93. Bridgeport (2-8)
94. Gonzales (3-8)
95. Commerce (3-7)
96. Breckenridge (6-4)
97. Cameron Yoe (6-5)
98. Somerset (4-6)
99. Quinlan-Ford (6-6)
100. Gainesville (1-9)

Regional Distribution:
I-20
II-27
III-32
IV-21

Top 25:
I-6
II-6
III-8
IV-5

If you've known me for a while, it's likely you've seen this kind of stuff before. If not, get used to it!
:)

Be merciful!


Typical posting by an "amateur." Let's compare notes in December.

:rolleyes:

[CautionOrange]

If its true that Giddings' star Cassius Bradley has transferred to Caldwell (see another post), that combined with the offensive speed makes Caldwell underrated, but then the team normally pumps fans hopes up before going flat in district.

[Emerson1]

Why is it a typical post by an amateur? Because Snyder, a team who has never done anything is not top 5? Have they even played in the state championship?

and I doubt you will be able to compare notes without since you probably don't have the means of coming up with a top 100



100. Gainesville (1-9)

What happened to them?

[Snydertigersrul]

Originally posted by Emerson1
Why is it a typical post by an amateur? Because Snyder, a team who has never done anything is not top 5? Have they even played in the state championship?

and I doubt you will be able to compare notes without since you probably don't have the means of coming up with a top 100



100. Gainesville (1-9)

What happened to them?


You proved my point. Royce City is very overrated.

[Keith7]

Originally posted by Emerson1




100. Gainesville (1-9)

What happened to them?


Everyone graduated and Coach Cordell moved on to greenville.. They had a terrible year last year, and prolly won't be that great this year but they shouldn't be at 100, maybe around the 60-70 range.. Our new coach has had a year to introduce his system to the kids at Gainesville, and we always have talent.. I think Gainesville will end up something like 5-5 maybe 6-4, which would def. be better then 100th

[bullfrog_alumni_02]

Originally posted by Emerson1
Why is it a typical post by an amateur? Because Snyder, a team who has never done anything is not top 5? Have they even played in the state championship?

and I doubt you will be able to compare notes without since you probably don't have the means of coming up with a top 100



100. Gainesville (1-9)

What happened to them?

i was thinkin the same thing!?!?!?!:confused:

[Keith7]

Originally posted by Emerson1


100. Gainesville (1-9)

What happened to them?

plus this guy is from celina, they wouldn't give Gainesville credit if they beat the Cowboys .. ;)

[CautionOrange]

Originally posted by Keith7
plus this guy is from celina, they wouldn't give Gainesville credit if they beat the Cowboys .. ;)

I wouldn't either. Dallas bites.

[carter08]

Can I get an explanation of Columbus over West Columbia?

I can understand Columbia being so low based on what we lost, but I would have expected Sealy in that spot instead of Columbus.

Sweeny losts its best player. That player was the only reason Sweeny made the playoffs last year.

I'd take Columbus off, move Columbia up 2 spots, Palacios down, and put Sealy in there.

But until I can make an unbiased Top 100, I won't compalin too much.

[Snydertigersrul]

Originally posted by Keith7
plus this guy is from celina, they wouldn't give Gainesville credit if they beat the Cowboys .. ;)


And he accuses me of being bias for Snyder. He probably put Liberty Hill at No. 1 to impress LIberty Mom.

[Keith7]

Originally posted by CautionOrange
I wouldn't either. Dallas bites.

ya you are right about that.. the Philadelphia Eagles are the best team in the NFL.. but I wanted to keep it somewhat realistic

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by Emerson1
Why is it a typical post by an amateur? Because Snyder, a team who has never done anything is not top 5? Have they even played in the state championship?

and I doubt you will be able to compare notes without since you probably don't have the means of coming up with a top 100



100. Gainesville (1-9)

What happened to them?

I may be wrong but I think it says Snyder 9. Gainesville barely snuck into the top 100. That's great! They are on the way up. They picked up a lot of ground from last year. :clap:

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by Keith7
ya you are right about that.. the Philadelphia Eagles are the best team in the NFL.. but I wanted to keep it somewhat realistic You mean the Chokegles from Eagles Suck (http://www.phillysucks.com/) ? :D

[Keith7]

Originally posted by bobcat1
You mean the Chokegles from Eagles Suck (http://www.phillysucks.com/) ? :D

at least they've won a playoff game in the past decade

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by Snydertigersrul
Typical posting by an "amateur." Let's compare notes in December.

:rolleyes:

typical posting by a teenager

if you don't agree with it, you can certainly post your own rankings on here

if you want to invalidate my top 100 because you don't like where your team is, that's your problem. I have done this for ten years, the same way every year, and i have done better in my top 25 than DCTF every year. I also re-rank every week during the regular season. I think, at this time, that there are 8 teams that are better than snyder, including a team from their own region. If that is too low for you, go read Dave Campbell's Texas football. I'm sure it will make you smile

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by Keith7
at least they've won a playoff game in the past decade How many times have they won the Super Bowl??? :rolleyes:

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
typical posting by a teenager


I thought he was a grown man, read something about him being a coach.

[smustangs]

Originally posted by Emerson1
I thought he was a grown man.

makes it even sadder

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by smustangs
makes it even sadder
It's usually the older people, that's when the mind starts to go.

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by Keith7
plus this guy is from celina, they wouldn't give Gainesville credit if they beat the Cowboys .. ;)

:)

I think i am being pretty generous--they were 1-9 last year

however, i do agree with you--they will proably end 5-5 or so, and end up in the 70 range. But for now, i want to see how they fare against their district

[bobcat1]

The LINK! (http://www.phillysucks.com/)
Everything you ever need to know about Philly!

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by carter08
Can I get an explanation of Columbus over West Columbia?

I can understand Columbia being so low based on what we lost, but I would have expected Sealy in that spot instead of Columbus.

Sweeny losts its best player. That player was the only reason Sweeny made the playoffs last year.

I'd take Columbus off, move Columbia up 2 spots, Palacios down, and put Sealy in there.

But until I can make an unbiased Top 100, I won't compalin too much.

i don't see Sealy being that good, especially within their own district.

I do see columbus better than the tigers, although that is a stretch of mine to put them where they are--but hey, i have to make some reaching predictions to keep it interesting--besides, we don't really know how the middle of the district is going to pan out just yet, and you probably have more insight than i do, since you are from the area. This is why i post these things, so i can learn more about the other teams--there will probably be several minor changes between now and week 1

[RMAC]

Originally posted by Snydertigersrul
And he accuses me of being bias for Snyder. He probably put Liberty Hill at No. 1 to impress LIberty Mom.

Or maybe it's because LH won state and returns more than half their starters on both sides of the ball . . . oh wait, no, that wouldn't make ANY sense at all now would it? And no, you're not biased for Snyder by any means at all, I mean, you name didn't give it away or anything. I haven't gotten to read much here in the last month but I can tell that some things just won't ever change.:rolleyes:

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by RMAC
Or maybe it's because LH won state and returns more than half their starters on both sides of the ball . . . oh wait, no, that wouldn't make ANY sense at all now would it? And no, you're not biased for Snyder by any means at all, I mean, you name didn't give it away or anything. I haven't gotten to read much here in the last month but I can tell that some things just won't ever change.:rolleyes:

of course i am trying to impress LH Mom, who wouldn't?

:rolleyes:

maybe it was an objective analysis of all of the best teams which ended with that pick---nah, too much sense!

RMAC, sometimes i wonder about some of these boarders!

[carter08]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
i don't see Sealy being that good, especially within their own district.

I do see columbus better than the tigers, although that is a stretch of mine to put them where they are--but hey, i have to make some reaching predictions to keep it interesting--besides, we don't really know how the middle of the district is going to pan out just yet, and you probably have more insight than i do, since you are from the area. This is why i post these things, so i can learn more about the other teams--there will probably be several minor changes between now and week 1

I actually think Brookshire may make some noise this year. They weren't very good last year, but it was thier first year in 3A. I think having more experience will really help them. My totally unbiased 24-3A prediction looks like this:

1. Needville- Thaddeus Wilkerson is a beast
2. Columbia- Very good team chemistry. They lose a lot, but if you look, the Junior class has a history of winning football games.
3. Wharton
4. Sweeny
5. Sealy
6. Brookshire
7. Columbus
8. Stafford

[Snydertigersrul]

Originally posted by Keith7
at least they've won a playoff game in the past decade


Can you dispute that FACT?




:clap:

[3afan]

Originally posted by Snydertigersrul
Typical posting by an "amateur." Let's compare notes in December.

:rolleyes:

how old r u ?

[bobcat1]

No I can't.

Can you count how many times Dudavan Mc Choke has let his team down? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

How about how many times Andy Dweeb ran the ball in losses? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Now when was it Philly won that Super Bowl? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Zactly!

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Snydertigersrul
He probably put Liberty Hill at No. 1 to impress LIberty Mom.
Maybe you should go back and read his original (pre-DCTF magazine) top 10 based on his "opinion". :thinking: Why do you think he would want to impress me AND why do you think I want or need to be impressed? :confused:

[DU_stud04]

Originally posted by Emerson1
I thought he was a grown man, read something about him being a coach. haha, he aint no coach. but a grown man indeed

[Snydertigersrul]

Originally posted by bobcat1
No I can't.

Can you count how many times Dudavan Mc Choke has let his team down? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

How about how many times Andy Dweeb ran the ball in losses? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Now when was it Philly won that Super Bowl? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Zactly!


All that matters is Philly has won playoff games in the last decade while the Cowboys choke every time. Shoot, they couldn't even kick a field goal last year, shorter than an extra point, to advance.


:D

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Maybe you should go back and read his original (pre-DCTF magazine) top 10 based on his "opinion". :thinking: Why do you think he would want to impress me AND why do you think I want or need to be impressed? :confused:

exactly--my opinions have changed dramatically now that i have a lot more information--he obviously didn't see that original thread a couple of weeks ago

[DU_stud04]

Originally posted by Snydertigersrul
All that matters is Philly has won playoff games in the last decade while the Cowboys choke every time. Shoot, they couldn't even kick a field goal last year, shorter than an extra point, to advance.


:D dont mean a thing if you dont get a ring. both are terrible.

(go cowboys....)

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by Snydertigersrul
All that matters is Philly has won playoff games in the last decade while the Cowboys choke every time. Shoot, they couldn't even kick a field goal last year, shorter than an extra point, to advance.


:D Can't argue that point either. We may be a little better coached this year and they may actually have a little fun playing football again instead of Parcell ball. Time will tell. I bet it will be a heck of a year for Dallas and Celina. :D

[Snydertigersrul]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Can't argue that point either. We may be a little better coached this year and they may actually have a little fun playing football again instead of Parcell ball. Time will tell. I bet it will be a heck of a year for Dallas and Celina. :D


Maybe for Dallas.


:D

[bobcat1]

Will Sweetwater spank y'all again this year? :D

[Snydertigersrul]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Will Sweetwater spank y'all again this year? :D


I doubt it because we don't play in the regular season. We were there in the playoffs waiting for them last year and they never made it (lost to Vernon)

[bobcat1]

And Vernon spanked that Arse. What happened to Vernon? :D

[bobcat1]

Do you ever feel like you have a ring in your nose when you are talking to me Snydertigersfool? :D :D ;)

[dogdad]

Rixey, I've looked over your entire list, and for the most part, I find it hard to disagree with your rankings. I can tell you that in the area districts that I follow closely, your order of finish agrees with mine. I think you've done a pretty good job of ranking (but I'll say it again....rankings don't mean squat). It is nice to read educated opinions on this site.

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by dogdad
Rixey, I've looked over your entire list, and for the most part, I find it hard to disagree with your rankings. I can tell you that in the area districts that I follow closely, your order of finish agrees with mine. I think you've done a pretty good job of ranking (but I'll say it again....rankings don't mean squat). It is nice to read educated opinions on this site.

thanks, dogdad

if you want, you can check out the region lists--it is the top 100 simply broken down-but the district projections i made would take too long to type in here--simply know that i started with the districts, put them together by region, and then took the top 100, so there shouldn't be any conflicts between lists, and you can pretty much discern the top half of most districts just by picking out the teams in the top 100.

[loboes86]

Has Andrews got something coming in ? How can they be ranked higher than Hondo, Greenwood or Monahans ? Including District play last year they only won 3 games + 2 games after District in which the were the 3rd place ah winner. So do they have some good kids coming or what?:confused:

[LH Panther Mom]

For what it's worth, I appreciate the time you put into researching all the teams.

[charlesrixey]

thanks, LH Mom!

They never questioned me too much when i did 2A--but you can't get it all perfect. ;)

[charlesrixey]

Quick explanation of my top 10, since someone will ask:

1. Liberty Hill--after looking everything over, they just have the fewest questions to answer, the system already in place, and a good defense and offense coming back. Plus, they have already beaten all comers, and most of them lose more than the panthers.

2. Celina--will have a great defense coming back, and a high scoring offense, but the guys we lost were clutch, and yet to see who steps up to replace them. Still, the Bobcats are more stable a pick than someone like Gilmer (lost a lot on defense and some huge stars on offense)

3. Giddings--Returning a great nucleus and a big-time star in their QB/RB whatever, but defense is just a step below the top two and LH has already proven they can beat them. It's up to the Buffs to take it back.

4. Royse City--This team was close last year to beating LE, and the bulldogs will be better this year, and favored if they meet again.

5. Texarkana Liberty-Eylau--see above. I think the loss of Middlebrooks is big enough, and RC's improvement great enough, to move them ahead of this still-championship caliber team, for now.

6. Gilmer--Still has rediculous talent on offense (enough to take them far) except TLE will be favored this year. Should be 10-0 going into the playoffs, but can they outscore TLE's better defense? I don't think so yet.

7. Robinson--still have several pieces remaining, but the obvious gaping hole at QB could sink them early from this spot, with a game against Celina to start the season and a still-tough district schedule. Need to finish 9-1 to justify this ranking, but i think they can

8. Graham--Yes, this is the trendy pick these days, and McCoy Jr is only a sophomore, but in the West, anything is possible, and if the defense steps up, they could be the best in the West.

9. Snyder--Simply put, i think Graham would beat them head to head. They have a great offensive nucleus and the defense isn't too far behind, but Graham has more potential.

10. Ingleside--A solid team from last year brings almost everyone back from a 12-2 ride. Given the losses to all of the other great south teams from 2006, ingleside gets to carry the banner until someone else rises up.

11. Kirbyville--sure, they haven't beaten WOS yet, and they haven't really done anything in a long time. But the potential exists for a great year, and if there was a ever a time to catch Stark, this would be that time.

12. Prosper--fourteen starters return from a team whose potential is still being developed. Given that the eagles are growing exponentially and will be in 4A very soon (perhaps in 9 months) they've got some stuff to work with, and will be a much tougher out against RC than they were last year, if they go division 1.

I know that was 12, and some crazy picks (including Needville at 13) are coming up, but i have to go to sleep and 12 is enough anyway.

[g$$]

Originally posted by carter08
Can I get an explanation of Columbus over West Columbia?

I can understand Columbia being so low based on what we lost, but I would have expected Sealy in that spot instead of Columbus.

Sweeny losts its best player. That player was the only reason Sweeny made the playoffs last year.

I'd take Columbus off, move Columbia up 2 spots, Palacios down, and put Sealy in there.

But until I can make an unbiased Top 100, I won't compalin too much.

Because Sweeny's program now under Coach Zajicek is in good shape, that's why. Tank Carder (TCU signee) was a heck of a player, no doubt, but your statement is a bit much. I am not denying he did a little of everything, but it is still 11-on-11. Sweeny has some athletes on the way (esp. 8-10th graders) & a bunch from last year returning. They will be just fine this year & beyond. WC lost a whole lot (Flannel, twins, size, speed, etc.) & even their coaches will tell you the cupboard is pretty bare right now (not knocking them, just fact). Columbus & Sealy may both be pretty decent from what I hear. Play it out on the field, but Coach Z has it going again in S-town.

[Gsquared]

Originally posted by Snydertigersrul
You proved my point. Royce City is very overrated.
I think we could probably save the over and underrated talk until we kick the season off. Awfly hard to say who is what until they play.

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
Self-explanatory:

This is something i have done for 10 years (mostly in 2A) through my website (which is no longer active). I predict district standings, then rank the teams in their regions, then take all four lists and add them together to create this list. This is wholly subjective to my personal opinions, and going through the process some teams end up in surprising positions because the district standings are based upon projections for the upcoming year---so i expect a lot of complaints.

i can already predict some hotspots, such as columbus ranked above Columbia, Snyder not in the top 5, Dallas Madison ranked below Carrollton Ranchview (and thus fourth in their district)-but i call them as i see them (granted most of this is based on information about teams and players from DCTF), however i think i am quite thorough. I know there are plenty of mistakes, and i know some people will not agree, but if you have information you think is pertinent, let me know. I am always open to ideas, but if you argue at a second grade level then i will assume you know about that much about football and ignore any 'pointers' you might give. Other than that, this is my fourth year doing this for 3A (2002-2003, 2006), and i think my top 10 is fairly accurate, definately more so than TF.

Class 3A Top 100
Preseason 2007

1. Liberty Hill (13-2)
2. Celina (15-1)
3. Giddings (13-1)
4. Royse City (11-2)
5. Texarkana Liberty-Eylau (12-3)
6. Gilmer (10-1)
7. Robinson (12-3)
8. Graham (7-6)
9. Snyder (9-4)
10. Ingleside (12-2)
11. Kirbyville (8-4)
12. Prosper (8-3)
13. Needville (7-3)
14. West Orange-Stark (11-1)
15. Abilene Wylie (9-3)
16. Port Isabel (9-3)
17. Wimberley (12-2)
18. Canyon (11-3)
19. Vernon (9-6)
20. Pleasonton (7-6)
21. Sweeny (10-3)
22. Texarkana Pleasant Grove (4-8)
23. Andrews (5-8)
24. Cuero (12-1)
25. Wharton (9-3)
26. Medina Valley (8-4)
27. Decatur (10-1)
28. Tyler Chapel Hill (6-6)
29. China Spring (9-3)
30. Rusk (9-3)
31. Midland Greenwood (12-2)
32. Carthage (7-3)
33. Hutto (7-3)
34. Monahans (9-2)
35. Palestine (9-3)
36. Coldspring Oakhurst (7-4)
37. Silsbee (9-3)
38. Rio Hondo (10-2)
39. Hondo (14-1)
40. Argyle (7-4)
41. Iowa Park (5-5)
42. Burkburnett (7-3)
43. Waco La Vega (10-1)
44. Crockett (7-5)
45. Diboll (8-3)
46. Lake Worth (8-4)
47. Sweetwater (9-3)
48. Canton (8-5)
49. Kennedale (8-4)
50. Bellville (8-3)
51. Navasota (3-7)
52. Atlanta (6-6)
53. Wichita Falls Hirschi (7-4)
54. Glen Rose (5-6)
55. Raymondville (7-5)
56. La Vernia (8-4)
57. Luling (7-4)
58. Kaufman (5-6)
59. Madisonville (7-4)
60. Orange Grove (11-2)
61. Yoakum (5-6)
62. Llano (7-5)
63. La Feria (8-3)
64. Caldwell (5-5)
65. Dallas Roosevelt (7-4)
66. La Grange (8-3)
67. West (8-3)
68. Clint (9-2)
69. Frisco Wakeland (3-7)
70. Pilot Point (8-5)
71. Waco Connally (4-6)
72. Wills Point (4-6)
73. Van (6-4)
74. Brownsboro (10-4)
75. Jasper (2-8)
76. Palestine Westwood (6-4)
77. Pearsall (3-8)
78. Crandall (5-6)
79. Devine (9-2)
80. Carrollton Ranchview (4-6)
81. Dallas Madison (11-1)
82. Corpus Christi West Oso (4-6)
83. Splendora (6-5)
84. Fort Stockton (7-4)
85. Longview Spring Hill (6-5)
86. Lytle (6-5)
87. Sinton (4-7)
88. Hillsboro (5-5)
89. Seminole (8-3)
90. Palacios (3-7)
91. Columbus (3-7)
92. West Columbia (8-3)
93. Bridgeport (2-8)
94. Gonzales (3-8)
95. Commerce (3-7)
96. Breckenridge (6-4)
97. Cameron Yoe (6-5)
98. Somerset (4-6)
99. Quinlan-Ford (6-6)
100. Gainesville (1-9)

Regional Distribution:
I-20
II-27
III-32
IV-21

Top 25:
I-6
II-6
III-8
IV-5

If you've known me for a while, it's likely you've seen this kind of stuff before. If not, get used to it!
:)

Be merciful!

The only question I have to ask you is: Have you ever played a down of high school football? If you haven't, this pre-season poll is totally flawed and should be thrown out completely. If you have, you have to be at least a two year letterman and started for 10 games for this poll to also have validity.

[charlesrixey]

no, and so?

i'm fairly certain not everyone here or putting rankings together has played high school football. All i can say is i've seen my fair share.

Has Tony Kornheiser ever played NFL football?

Al Michaels?

Jean Jacques Taylor?

To assume that your opinion is better than mine because is flawed. The coaches at my high school use to come to me when they wanted projections about who would do what in the regular season and playoffs. Sometimes being a good fan is about having multiple voices out there---if you have a different opinion, let me know, but otherwise, i doubt you are going to undermine 10 years of people listening to my opinions because you think i have no voice if i didn't play football. If that was the case, i would have stopped in 1998

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
no, and so?

i'm fairly certain not everyone here or putting rankings together has played high school football. All i can say is i've seen my fair share.

Has Tony Kornheiser ever played NFL football?

Al Michaels?

Jean Jacques Taylor?

To assume that your opinion is better than mine because is flawed. The coaches at my high school use to come to me when they wanted projections about who would do what in the regular season and playoffs. Sometimes being a good fan is about having multiple voices out there---if you have a different opinion, let me know, but otherwise, i doubt you are going to undermine 10 years of people listening to my opinions because you think i have no voice if i didn't play football. If that was the case, i would have stopped in 1998

No, no, I'm totally joking....I thought it was kind of funny, all things considered. Your rankings looked good, at least nobody can say you don't have the balls to say what you think.

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
Quick explanation of my top 10, since someone will ask:


5. Texarkana Liberty-Eylau--see above. I think the loss of Middlebrooks is big enough, and RC's improvement great enough, to move them ahead of this still-championship caliber team, for now.

6. Gilmer--Still has rediculous talent on offense (enough to take them far) except TLE will be favored this year. Should be 10-0 going into the playoffs, but can they outscore TLE's better defense? I don't think so yet.

the loss of Middlebrooks will be a back breaker for this team. James may or may not be able to pick up the slack. it's been noted several times that when the going gets tough James disappears. that is when Middlebrooks was at his best. BTW, IMHO, Atlanta ain't never been the 52nd best team in the state. They should be much higher.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by lostaussie
the loss of Middlebrooks will be a back breaker for this team. James may or may not be able to pick up the slack. it's been noted several times that when the going gets tough James disappears. that is when Middlebrooks was at his best. BTW, IMHO, Atlanta ain't never been the 52nd best team in the state. They should be much higher.

Us East Texans keep saying Atlanta is better than their record because of who they play, BUT the last couple of years theyhave been down. The speed and athleticism seems to have been lacking.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Snydertigersrul
Typical posting by an "amateur." Let's compare notes in December.

:rolleyes:

Are you like this with every team you have written for??

If you were actually from Snyder (born and raised) I could understand your bias....but you weren't!!!

As far as I can remember, you haven't even really lived there that long!!

It's an "opinion" poll like all the rest!!

Geez STR, you are stirring the pot awfully early this season.....are you just trying to keep us mods on our toes??:thinking:

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
No, no, I'm totally joking....I thought it was kind of funny, all things considered. Your rankings looked good, at least nobody can say you don't have the balls to say what you think.

sorry--- i get defensive!
:)

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Us East Texans keep saying Atlanta is better than their record because of who they play, BUT the last couple of years theyhave been down. The speed and athleticism seems to have been lacking. oh i agree they have been down, but down for them is at least top 25. we have all seen that you cannot judge them by that vicious preseason schedule. we play them again this year and that is always a tough game.

[I Bleed Red08]

I can agree where Sweetwater is because we lost alot of our seniors this year that were starting Varsity players. I think if anything though we should be in the mid 30's because even though our team doesnt look too good right now, we normally have a somewhat clutch team. They will pick up the slack that was left and i think we will make into the 2nd or 3rd round of playoffs

[SideBurnWillie]

Originally posted by I Bleed Red08
I can agree where Sweetwater is because we lost alot of our seniors this year that were starting Varsity players. I think if anything though we should be in the mid 30's because even though our team doesnt look too good right now, we normally have a somewhat clutch team. They will pick up the slack that was left and i think we will make into the 2nd or 3rd round of playoffs

They do have a perty good QB! I think he should have started last year.

[I Bleed Red08]

Originally posted by SideBurnWillie
They do have a perty good QB! I think he should have started last year. Our QB did good last year but yes he atleast should have had more playing time last year. Our sophmore year when he moved here he played QB,RB,KR,PR,P,& FB on JV

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by I Bleed Red08
I can agree where Sweetwater is because we lost alot of our seniors this year that were starting Varsity players. I think if anything though we should be in the mid 30's because even though our team doesnt look too good right now, we normally have a somewhat clutch team. They will pick up the slack that was left and i think we will make into the 2nd or 3rd round of playoffs Vernon@Aledo-clutch??:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[I Bleed Red08]

Originally posted by DaHop72
Vernon@Aledo-clutch??:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
ha ha i figured that was coming lol that was not clutch lol it was probally one of the worst games we have ever played. but yes we got the stuff knocked out of us.

[SideBurnWillie]

Originally posted by DaHop72
Vernon@Aledo-clutch??:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I believe it was pooch not clutch :D

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by SideBurnWillie
I believe it was pooch not clutch :D :clap: :clap: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[IHStangFan]

Ingleside 10 and Needville at 13.....outstanding :)

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
The only question I have to ask you is: Have you ever played a down of high school football? If you haven't, this pre-season poll is totally flawed and should be thrown out completely. If you have, you have to be at least a two year letterman and started for 10 games for this poll to also have validity. :evillol: You kill me sometimes.:evillol:

[BILLYFRED0000]

Looks good. I lose interest after the top 25 most of the time anyway. But one can always appreciate the effort involved.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by Keith7
plus this guy is from celina, they wouldn't give Gainesville credit if they beat the Cowboys .. ;)

Wrong there. I have Gainesville in the top 80 also. But at that level an injury here or bad break there moves you up and down like a roller coaster. Who's to say he is not right and we are wrong......

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
The only question I have to ask you is: Have you ever played a down of high school football? If you haven't, this pre-season poll is totally flawed and should be thrown out completely. If you have, you have to be at least a two year letterman and started for 10 games for this poll to also have validity.

Oh now this is one of those funny ones? Did you know that I had never seen or been on a computer till after college? I make a handy living at it now and am considered one of the best trouble shooters on my crew. Fancy that....... Point being, playing is not the same as understanding. I did play btw, although I lettered in Tennis and Basketball not foosball. Rixey has been doing this for a while and has it down pretty good. I kind a ribbed him a little last year because I had us in the top 5 and he said 7 or 8. But hey we were both close. And you know what is funny, someone would say that totally seriously. It is always nice to see someone get a little appreciation for their hard work....:D

[icu812]

Can't argue with the Top 10. However, I don't see the 14-3A teams being so low considering multiple teams from this district have made nice runs the past couple years; Canton and Brownsboro. Chapel Hill is very, very talented and had a decent showing last year in D1. Plus Van has the best RB in the state, lots of talent (although an unproven line) and could win this district. Also, I agree with others who think Atlanta should be higher. Thanks for the rankings.

BTW, Rusk to high at #30 IMHO. Lost their best player, Justin Sturns. They won't be as good, Sturns was a one man gang. FYI, We (Van) beat them soundly last year and we'll be better this year than last.

[EAGLE9166]

Van ranked #75 and suppose to have the #1 ranked Running back, i guess thats all they have.

[Mot'r Boat'r]

looks good to me....thanks for all the effort you did to create this compilation! and don't let that snydertigersDROOL fool get ya stirred up...from all his posts that i have seen, he's a snyder finatic....you're top 10 looks pretty accurate to me, i might have changed one or two things but other than that thanks for the input!

[icu812]

Originally posted by EAGLE9166
Van ranked #75 and suppose to have the #1 ranked Running back, i guess thats all they have.

Actually, they have some other nice skilled players (much like Rusk) but what they didn't have last year was an offensive line. Van isn't losing their best player Rusk is. Van's line has to be better this year cause it can't get any worse. Van's D is pretty solid Rusk's is not (or wasn't last year anyway). Point is Van at #75 is way to low if Rusk is #30. Not a shot at Rusk, I know they have some serious athletes over there, see Sturns, Cody Glenn, ect..

[DU_stud04]

Originally posted by I Bleed Red08
I can agree where Sweetwater is because we lost alot of our seniors this year that were starting Varsity players. I think if anything though we should be in the mid 30's because even though our team doesnt look too good right now, we normally have a somewhat clutch team. They will pick up the slack that was left and i think we will make into the 2nd or 3rd round of playoffs if sweetwater was a clutch team, they would have more than that one championship. expecially with as much talent as they have had i the past....late 80's-mid 90's then again around 2002-05.

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by icu812
Actually, they have some other nice skilled players (much like Rusk) but what they didn't have last year was an offensive line. Van isn't losing their best player Rusk is. Van's line has to be better this year cause it can't get any worse. Van's D is pretty solid Rusk's is not (or wasn't last year anyway). Point is Van at #75 is way to low if Rusk is #30. Not a shot at Rusk, I know they have some serious athletes over there, see Sturns, Cody Glenn, ect..

Rusk performed last year, Van only in spurts.

I agree, Van should be up there, but even if they go 8-2, the bottom line is they need to be good in their district to make the playoffs

I have liked Van for a couple of years, and last year was strange as they underachieved

we'll just have to see what they bring to district this year

[BILLYFRED0000]

Yes that is true. I think the best team over that way was Bboro.
Man they were good.

[charlesrixey]

one team i don't know much about is Coldspring Oakhurst. I remember they were really good in the mid-90's (before they added the oakurst name) but that is the extent of my knowledge. Anybody here familiar with them?

[icu812]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
Yes that is true. I think the best team over that way was Bboro.
Man they were good.

Yes Brownsboro was very good and they also got beat by Canton who lost to Van. Mix in a good Chapel Hill team who beat Van and lost to Canton and you have a pretty strong district. 14-3A needs more love in the poll IMHO.

[bd62]

It took a lot of work to come up with the top 100. No doubt you have a great passion for high school football.

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by icu812
Yes Brownsboro was very good and they also got beat by Canton who lost to Van. Mix in a good Chapel Hill team who beat Van and lost to Canton and you have a pretty strong district. 14-3A needs more love in the poll IMHO.

most people think their district needs more love in the poll:) ;)

#28 TCH
#48 Canton
#73 Van
#74 Brownsboro

all of the teams between 40-80 could be reasonably argued for or against a change

once the season starts, it is easier to distinguish amongst the teams

[burnet44]

yes took a lot of time and thought
many just think of their own
thanks CR for having courage

many hide behind a name here

Im glad you serve our country
You have courage
we need more of that

thanks again for your service
to our country and this board


sa lute

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by burnet44
yes took a lot of time and thought
many just think of their own
thanks CR for having courage

many hide behind a name here

Im glad you serve our country
You have courage
we need more of that

thanks again for your service
to our country and this board


sa lute

thanks-- no reason for me to hide behind a name, but that was really a mistake on my part in the beginning

i didn't really care if they knew my name or not, and now, it's not worth changing now that everyone knows me

[charlesrixey]

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[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
sorry--- i get defensive!
:)

Oh, I can as well, but I thought that it was dripping with enough sarcasm that everyone could tell, but I understand that it's always tough to see through typed text instead of out of the mouth, so I can understand why you and a few others couldn't tell. ;)

[sicem74]

wow u got cameron 97!????

[chaingang]

The only thing I see wrong is that there is no way that Kirbyville will beat WOS. They never have and never will. They have too much of a fear factor with us.

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by chaingang
The only thing I see wrong is that there is no way that Kirbyville will beat WOS. They never have and never will. They have too much of a fear factor with us.

perhaps, but even if they were to lose, i still think they have a better chance of going further in the playoffs (where they don't have to face WOS--at least immediately)

[charlesrixey]

#59 Madisonville is in that group of teams that has potential to go far, or flame out

(in answer to the 'madisonville' thread)

i think they, like Sinton, will be on the rise this year, though

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
#59 Madisonville is in that group of teams that has potential to go far, or flame out

(in answer to the 'madisonville' thread)

i think they, like Sinton, will be on the rise this year, though

We shall see. Things will be interesting. New coach, new offense, only 2 back on defense. I'm a little freaked out, but excited. I don't know how many games I'll actually attend this year, as I'll be on road filming a documentary. Not really, but it sounds good. :D

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by pirate4state
We shall see. Things will be interesting. New coach, new offense, only 2 back on defense. I'm a little freaked out, but excited. I don't know how many games I'll actually attend this year, as I'll be on road filming a documentary. Not really, but it sounds good. :D

filiming a documentary?