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kepdawg
05-26-2007, 03:57 PM
It's a moot point now, but I'm curious to see what others think.

Follow the link to check out the pic and let me know what you think.

Did he touch the base?

Third Base (http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm?show=localnews&pnpID=974&NewsID=809555&CategoryID=17046&on=1)
JasperDog94
05-26-2007, 04:00 PM
It's hard to tell. But for the ump to make that call, he'd better be darn sure that he missed the bag.
kaorder1999
05-26-2007, 04:16 PM
the caption says that is his right leg hitting the bad but its his left correct?
kepdawg
05-26-2007, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by kaorder1999
the caption says that is his right leg hitting the bag but its his left correct?

I noticed that as well.
kaorder1999
05-26-2007, 04:18 PM
in my opinion...if i were to post a photo trying to discredit the umps I would sure as hell make sure I got my caption right!
JasperDog94
05-26-2007, 04:21 PM
Notice that it's "Hills Creative Photography" for the logo on the picture?;)
kaorder1999
05-26-2007, 04:27 PM
good point!
Rabbit'93
05-26-2007, 04:53 PM
'm not sure I wouldwant to be advertising as a photographer if that's the quality photos I'm putting out. That picture is horrible.
buff4life
05-27-2007, 03:02 AM
you can't tell what's his foot and where its at...
3afan
05-27-2007, 06:25 AM
its IMPOSSIBLE to tell from those pics ... its a judgement call, and as a previous poster said he better miss the base by a bunch (its gotta be obvious) before that appeal is upheld
Chopblock
05-27-2007, 08:38 AM
2 man or 3 man crew?
Emerson1
05-27-2007, 09:35 AM
lol. Sounds like the guy that runs forneysports.com, he has a picture that 'clearly' shows a call was wrong on every single game page.


http://forneysports.com/images/400_no_td.jpg
No TD

One of many bad calls. The picture clearly shows that the Pearce receiver was out of bounds at the moment the ball arrived. The official in the picture was in perfect position to make the call but didn't.

It was rumored that one of the officials was seen wearing a Homecoming Mum.
smustangs
05-27-2007, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Emerson1
lol. Sounds like the guy that runs forneysports.com, he has a picture that 'clearly' shows a call was wrong on every single game page.


http://forneysports.com/images/400_no_td.jpg
No TD

One of many bad calls. The picture clearly shows that the Pearce receiver was out of bounds at the moment the ball arrived. The official in the picture was in perfect position to make the call but didn't.

It was rumored that one of the officials was seen wearing a Homecoming Mum.

haha that pic dose not clearly show him to be ob when he caught it you cant really tell on either this pic or the jasper baseball one but like has been said as an ump if you make that call in that big of a game there should be no doubt about it
BILLYFRED0000
05-28-2007, 12:21 PM
In the photo no part of his foot is on top of the bag. I could call that a missed bag and sleep well about it. That is why you are supposed to be on the bag not "beside" it.
Emerson1
05-28-2007, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
In the photo no part of his foot is on top of the bag. I could call that a missed bag and sleep well about it. That is why you are supposed to be on the bag not "beside" it.
You don't have to be on top of it, you just have to touch it. Or else it would be impossible to slide and not be out
zebrablue2
05-28-2007, 01:22 PM
the way this kid was rounding the bag he better hit some part of the top of the bag, or else he needs to learn how to run the bases. do not come up and say my toe caught the bag. in the football picture, from that angle, there is no way you can tell if there is any space between his foot and the line. the camera dude needs to better position himself...
Old Tiger
05-28-2007, 01:27 PM
it looks like his left foot touched the base.
Keith7
05-28-2007, 01:31 PM
it looks like he is touching it to me.. it can be hard for umpires to see if players touch all the bases sometimes because they are busy watching the ball.. That being said his foot was close enough to the base and he was running the base as most coaches tell you to, with your inside foot on the inside part of the base (supposedly gives you a better push off).. All things considered I think this guy touched the base
3afan
05-28-2007, 01:32 PM
both pictures are inconclusive .....
3afan
05-28-2007, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
In the photo no part of his foot is on top of the bag. I could call that a missed bag and sleep well about it. That is why you are supposed to be on the bag not "beside" it.

what? the side of the bag is just as much part of the bag as the top ...
BILLYFRED0000
05-28-2007, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by 3afan
what? the side of the bag is just as much part of the bag as the top ...

It is when you slide into it. Not when you run by it. It is difficult at best to determine if contact is made in a base running position as opposed to a sliding position because in a sliding position you wind up where? on top of the bag.
Old Tiger
05-28-2007, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
It is when you slide into it. Not when you run by it. The bag is a bag no matter where you touch it. His left foot obviously touched the inside of the bag the writer of this article is just looking for something to whine about.
3afan
05-28-2007, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
It is when you slide into it. Not when you run by it. It is difficult at best to determine if contact is made in a base running position as opposed to a sliding position because in a sliding position you wind up where? on top of the bag.

you are right as far as what is best to see - but as far as the rulebook goes there is no distinction.
3afan
05-28-2007, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Tiger WR
...His left foot obviously touched the inside of the bag ....

you certainly cant tell that from the above linked picture ...
Old Tiger
05-28-2007, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by 3afan
you certainly cant tell that from the above picture ... A picture is worth a thousand words and all of them are pointing toward him touching it:D
BILLYFRED0000
05-28-2007, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by 3afan
you are right as far as what is best to see - but as far as the rulebook goes there is no distinction.

That is my point. Hard to tell if you touch it or not unless you are visibly on the bag. If your foot comes down flat and it is not on the bag, I call it a miss or a near miss. And in the photo it sure looks flat.