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kaorder1999
05-16-2007, 10:05 PM
Silver and black eye

By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
May 15, 2007


The San Antonio Spurs never much cared about endearing themselves, starting with sullen star Tim Duncan and grumpy coach Gregg Popovich. They won three championships wearing Al Davis' colors, but the kids never took to those black-and-silver jerseys the way the Oakland Raiders did. For so long, San Antonio has tortured the public with professionalism and poise.

After a decade of inspiring indifference, if not a grudging admiration, one series has suddenly reshaped and repackaged the Spurs. They'll no longer be simply celebrated as the relentlessly resourceful champions, but they'll also be derided as dirty, cheap-shot artists. They've earned it in these Western Conference semifinals against the Phoenix Suns.

What's worse, they've gotten away with it. Nothing happened when Bruce Bowen sideswiped Amare Stoudemire and kneed Steve Nash, and two games for Robert Horry drilling Nash into the scorer's table does little to balance the Game 5 suspensions for Stoudemire and Boris Diaw.

In some ways, the series has done irreparable damage to the Spurs' reputation. They've never cared about popularity, but they do relish respect. If they win this series, they'll do so with the taint of bad behavior and bad character.

Popovich doesn't help the Spurs' credibility when he defends Horry's vicious hit as "just an end-of-the-game foul." That's a load of crap and Popovich knows it. The Spurs are no less tough guys for Popovich, maybe the best pure coach in the NBA, to acknowledge that Horry's hit was over the line.

Horry had always been Big Shot Bob in the playoffs, never Cheap Shot Bob, but something about the tone of this series made Nash an appealing target late in Game 4. Once again, San Antonio provoked, the Suns reacted and they'll be playing at a steep incline without Stoudemire on Wednesday.

The Spurs are winning the battles on technicalities and letter of the law, but they're losing on spirit and intent. San Antonio hasn't gotten away with murder in this series, just aggravated assault. Rest assured, the NBA would love nothing more than figure a way to get the ratings-free Spurs out of these playoffs and move along Steve Nash and the space-age Suns.

Only, it doesn't work that way. The judgment was fair on Tuesday, suspending Horry for two games and delivering the hardest hit of all – Stoudemire and Boris Diaw out for Game 5.

"It's not a matter of fairness, it's a matter of correctness," NBA vice president of operations Stu Jackson said Wednesday.

Listen, all these people screaming for the league to selectively enforce the rule about leaving the bench for an altercation are missing the point. This rule is simple: It is there to stop that first punch getting thrown. That's it. Assistant Marc Iavaroni should've done his job on Phoenix's bench. For all the clipboards and notes these armies of assistants are buried under, they have but one job: When all hell breaks loose, stop the superstar.

Stop Stoudemire.

But this doesn't excuse the instigating San Antonio has done in the series. The shame is, the Spurs are good defensively and too talented to reduce themselves to this garbage. Bowen believed he could intimidate Stoudemire and Nash with those hits. It didn't happen. Yes, the Suns are the ultimate finesse team, but they've shown it shouldn't be mistaken for softness.

The irony is that, earlier this season, Popovich was livid with Jackson for telephoning Bowen without his knowledge to warn Bowen about sliding his foot under the ankles of jump shooters again. Vince Carter, Steve Francis and Isiah Thomas had complained about that with Bowen, and Popovich did not want Jackson getting into his star defender's head about the way he played the game. As it turns out, Horry probably never would've felt so empowered to slam Nash had Jackson punished Bowen for his transgressions in the series.

San Antonio is never a brash team, but it's never been so arrogant. The Spurs are a great franchise, great champions, but they've honored those black-and-silver colors in all the wrong ways this series. Right now, they're behaving like they're bullet-proof, like they can do whatever they want on the floor. So far, the NBA has given San Antonio no reason to feel otherwise.

Now, it's on the Suns. They were suckered into leaving the bench in Game 4, and now, they get to show whether they can stand up to the bully without their big tough guy, Stoudemire. Now, they get a chance to hit back the only way that'll work: running.

The West is still the Spurs' street corner. Whatever damage they've done to their good names, they'll always take the fight to you.

GreenMachine
05-16-2007, 10:42 PM
Yea, the Spurs are so dirty, they could rival the days of the Pistons Bill Lambier and Isiah Thomas :rolleyes:

kaorder1999
05-16-2007, 10:43 PM
yeah...the guy who read this must be a Mavs or Rockets fan....

GreenMachine
05-16-2007, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by kaorder1999
yeah...the guy who read this must be a Mavs or Rockets fan.... Read or wrote???

kaorder1999
05-16-2007, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by GreenMachine
Read or wrote???

haha....wrote

SintonFan
05-16-2007, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by kaorder1999
haha....wrote
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Yes we know. The whole nation is rooting against the Spurs.:clap:

Maroon87
05-17-2007, 08:33 AM
That story reads like an official Phoenix Suns press release. These are the playoffs, my man...if you're not ready to do whatever it takes, then stay home.

Snyder_TigerFan
05-17-2007, 08:38 AM
http://www.eternal-allegiance.com/images/smilies/violin.gif :bigcry:

3afan
05-17-2007, 09:47 AM
if you're a Spurs fan, you'll blow the article off .................... if not, you'll agree with it


if the situation were opposite (Suns "bad" guys, Spurs "good" guys), the respective fans reaction would also be just the opposite ...... thats just how (most) humans are

JasperDog94
05-17-2007, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by 3afan
if you're a Spurs fan, you'll blow the article off .................... if not, you'll agree with it


if the situation were opposite (Suns "bad" guys, Spurs "good" guys), the respective fans reaction would also be just the opposite ...... thats just how (most) humans are Exactly.

Macarthur
05-17-2007, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by 3afan
if you're a Spurs fan, you'll blow the article off .................... if not, you'll agree with it


if the situation were opposite (Suns "bad" guys, Spurs "good" guys), the respective fans reaction would also be just the opposite ...... thats just how (most) humans are

I'm not a Spurs fan and I think the article is rubbish.

The Bowen thing on Amare, I didn't see a problem with it. The Horry thing was wrong, but why no outcry on the Baron Davis incident which was much worse. Bowen is an in your face player and occationally he crosses the line, but you mean to tell me he's the only guy in the league like that...Give me a break.

I'm also getting tired of the SA is getting rewarded by the league for being dirty with Horry suspension versus the 2 guys for the Suns. The suspensions are for two totally seperate issues. When you have zero tolerance rules, such as the one Amare & Diaw were suspended, you leave yourself open to the possiblity of it appearing unfair. That's not the fault of the Spurs. The Spurs are getting disciplined for their transgression as are the Suns.

And let me tell you what this comes down to...Everyone in the media has been on their knees for Phoenix ever since Nash got there. They have been a media darling for at least two years now. Barkley has really been the only one that has been honest about the fact that their style of basketball has never won an NBA championship, but that doesn't stop the media from anoiting them the best team in the league even though Dallas & SA have whipped their butts 3 years in a row.

GreenMachine
05-17-2007, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by Macarthur
I'm not a Spurs fan and I think the article is rubbish.

The Bowen thing on Amare, I didn't see a problem with it. The Horry thing was wrong, but why no outcry on the Baron Davis incident which was much worse. Bowen is an in your face player and occationally he crosses the line, but you mean to tell me he's the only guy in the league like that...Give me a break.

I'm also getting tired of the SA is getting rewarded by the league for being dirty with Horry suspension versus the 2 guys for the Suns. The suspensions are for two totally seperate issues. When you have zero tolerance rules, such as the one Amare & Diaw were suspended, you leave yourself open to the possiblity of it appearing unfair. That's not the fault of the Spurs. The Spurs are getting disciplined for their transgression as are the Suns.

And let me tell you what this comes down to...Everyone in the media has been on their knees for Phoenix ever since Nash got there. They have been a media darling for at least two years now. Barkley has really been the only one that has been honest about the fact that their style of basketball has never won an NBA championship, but that doesn't stop the media from anoiting them the best team in the league even though Dallas & SA have whipped their butts 3 years in a row. I like your thinking :thumbsup:

GreenMachine
05-17-2007, 11:24 AM
I for one am glad to see the Spurs playing tough basketball. They have been called "soft" for many years and we all know they have shed that label. They are letting the basketball world know that the championship goes through them! :eek:

LH Panther Mom
05-17-2007, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
http://www.eternal-allegiance.com/images/smilies/violin.gif :bigcry:
Ditto :D

bulldogman06
05-17-2007, 11:45 AM
i am sick and tired of this crap. im seriously about to major in journalism just so i can stop this media bs. what the hell. horry threw a hard foul. yea, a flagrant foul. ok, he got suspended. so that makes us a dirty team? bowen plays like an animal on d. that makes sa dirty? should we tell bowen to take it easy on amare and nash, they are special.... forget that. if you win the mental battle you win the game. bowen is in everybodys head right now. i am not sure when tough defense was changed to dirty play, maybe the players just arent tough anymore, i dont know. and did you see san antonios bench when the "altercation" was goin down. yea, neither did anybody else, because they were all on the bench, like the rule says, like they were coached to do. im sorry phoenix has no discipline and are like a bunch of little kids who cant follow rules. deal with it. i for one would have liked to see amare fined only, but a rule is a rule, there is nothing to do about it this year.

3afan
05-17-2007, 05:45 PM
sliding the foot under airborne players is not tough, its dirty .... dont know about the other stuff but thats a lock

KTA
05-17-2007, 06:05 PM
Yea, the Spurs are so dirty, they could rival the days of the Pistons Bill Lambier and Isiah Thomas

The thing with that is alot of teams played dirty back then, that was their style of play. Have you ever seen how HARD fouls were back then compaired to know? Im pulling for the Spurs in this series (them being the only Texas team left), BUT the way the Suns have been getting the short end of the stick in this series is crap. If the Suns happen to win the next two games and win this series I wont be upset.

kaorder1999
05-17-2007, 06:17 PM
also a difference...the Pistons KNEW they were dirty and liked being known as the "Bad Boys" of the NBA. Their fans liked that their team was known as Bad Boys.

GreenMachine
05-17-2007, 08:47 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: