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Maroon87
05-11-2007, 09:37 AM
Funny how times change. Remember when the Spurs were too "soft" to win a title?

By BOB BAUM, AP Sports Writer
May 10, 2007

PHOENIX (AP) -- Phoenix All-Star Amare Stoudemire says the San Antonio Spurs are a "dirty team" and that Bruce Bowen tried to hurt him, nasty accusations sure to intensify the playoff series between two of the best teams in the NBA.

"He kicked me purposely in the back of my Achilles'. I almost came down wrong and he almost caused an injury," Stoudemire said after Thursday's practice. "He's known for doing that. I just hope the NBA and the commissioner take a look at that because it's definitely a dirty play."

The Suns' center, selected to the all-NBA first team Thursday, didn't stop there.

"I think the Spurs are a dirty team," he said. "I mean, (Manu) Ginobili during the regular season kneed me in the crotch on purpose. I just hope the league takes a look at it and cleans the game up a little bit."

The Spurs, who host the Suns in Game 3 of the Western Conference semifinals on Saturday, had finished practice in San Antonio and the players were gone when Stoudemire made his accusations. Tom James, director of media services, said the Spurs had no comment.

The play that led to Stoudemire's charges came in the third quarter of Phoenix's 101-81 victory in Game 2 on Tuesday night, when he was going up for an open dunk. The victory evened the best-of-seven series 1-1.

Stoudemire said he didn't know at the time if the kick was on purpose, but decided after viewing replays that it was.

"When I saw the replay and reviewed it three or four times, there was no doubt about it," he said. "It was a purpose kick to the Achilles' and he definitely tried to injure me."

Stoudemire's feelings were heightened by the fact that he missed all but three games last season while recovering from two knee surgeries.

"I was actually very, very, very upset," he said. "Me personally from last year, having to sit out the whole season because of injuries. And for a guy like Bruce Bowen, who is a two-time champion, he should have more class than that, should understand what it takes to be a professional."

A video on YouTube appears to show Bowen, an NBA all-defensive team selection, kicking Stoudemire's leg from behind.

Stoudemire said he didn't react at the time because he didn't want a suspension or a technical foul that would hurt his team.

"I know it's the playoffs. I understand a hard foul," Stoudemire said. "But that wasn't a hard foul at all. That was just a purpose kick trying to injure someone."

No foul was called on the play.

Stoudemire said the Achilles' was initially sore but was fine during practice. Both teams took the day off on Wednesday.

During the regular season, the New York Knicks' Steve Francis was injured when he stepped on Bowen's foot.

When the teams met again in San Antonio, Knicks coach Isiah Thomas drew a technical foul when he shouted something at Bowen when New York's Jamal Crawford nearly landed on the Spurs' player's foot.

"I thought Jamal went up to take the shot and as he was coming down, Bruce's foot was under him," Thomas said after that game. "And if he were to come down on his foot, he could have broken his ankle or sprained his ankle and he would have been out, just like Francis."

In March of 2006, Bowen was fined $10,000 by the NBA for kicking Seattle's Ray Allen in the back.

Suns coach Mike D'Antoni downplayed the incident involving Stoudemire.

"The league's going to look at it and they're going to examine past tendencies and stuff," he said. "I have no idea what Bruce Bowen does. I don't really care. I don't want to get into it because it's so minimal that it's no big deal. It really isn't."

Raja Bell, also an all-defensive team selection, said he doesn't like to use the words "dirty player."

"`I haven't seen the play," he said. "Dirty is not a word I like to use about anybody. They play hard, their physical. It's a physical time of year, but I didn't get kicked. Amare has the right to feel the way he wants to feel."

Associated Press writer Elizabeth White in San Antonio contributed to this report.

Snyder_TigerFan
05-11-2007, 09:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4yz__akIU

Doesn't look like he did it on purpose to me. When you slow it down, maybe, but at full speed it doesn't look intentional.

SintonFan
05-11-2007, 10:07 AM
Cry me a river Amare!:weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

Snyder_TigerFan
05-11-2007, 10:17 AM
After looking at the video, I can't tell that Bowen even touched him. Amare's right leg goes out from under him, but that was a result of the dunk.

What a crybaby!

Emerson1
05-11-2007, 10:25 AM
It's obvious he meant to do it on purpose. Look at the slo-mo replay, your leg doesn't go straight out like that on it's own. You really can't defend him since he has a large history of things like this.

SintonFan
05-11-2007, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by Emerson1
It's obvious he meant to do it on purpose. Look at the slo-mo replay, your leg doesn't go straight out like that on it's own. You really can't defend him since he has a large history of things like this.
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Looks like he tried to stop his momentum to me.:thinking:

TMer25
05-11-2007, 11:07 AM
I'm sorry but your leg doesn't go out like that in any natural movement. He has a history of this. I recall when Michael Finley elbowed him at midcourt a couple of years ago for Bowen doing his little slide a foot up under a jump shooter move.

SintonFan
05-11-2007, 11:08 AM
The guy plays close... what can you say?

Macarthur
05-11-2007, 11:17 AM
I couldn't see anything objectionable.

DUKE22
05-11-2007, 11:18 AM
I cant stand either one of those two guys. I dont like Manu, he flops all the time. I dont like Bowen, he is rough and yes sometimes dirty. You know what though, I wish both of them were on my team.

3afan
05-11-2007, 11:19 AM
IMO it certainly looks like an unnatural movement ..... so hhhmmmmm

GreenMachine
05-11-2007, 11:34 AM
Why would you kick Amare? Last series, a couple of years ago, he was scoring close to 40 pts. on Duncan and San Antonio still beat them. If you are going to kick anybody on purpose...kick Nash. :D

Gobbla2001
05-11-2007, 11:36 AM
he was probably trying to get close to him... he plays you like he's glue, that's just how he plays... not excusing it, but he's not gunna TRY to injure the guy...

JR2004
05-11-2007, 01:37 PM
Since the NBA refuses to put a stop to what this moron does I hope to see Pat Burke in the starting lineup for Game 3. Let the crazy Irish guy give him some of his own medicine.

JasperDog94
05-11-2007, 05:44 PM
Bowen's leg movement = Kobe's arm movement.

kaorder1999
05-11-2007, 05:47 PM
wow...he did kick at him. You dont raise your leg off the floor like that in order to stop yourself....

KTA
05-11-2007, 05:49 PM
Look at the slo-mo replay, your leg doesn't go straight out like that on it's own

I agree, I dont know if he ment to kick his achilles, but definitely a leg sweep of some kind.

DDBooger
05-11-2007, 05:51 PM
you know being a dirty player is something that has been associated with alot of great players but never discussed. i've heard that MJ, Bird and Reggie Miller were some dirty players. couldn't verify cause i didn't watch much bball growing up but its quite possible!

awizzy
05-11-2007, 06:16 PM
just look how bowen steped...when is the last time you put your heel down first like that???? hes a dirty player, good, but dirty

eagles_victory
05-11-2007, 06:28 PM
Bruce Bowen is the Ric Flair of the NBA

DDBooger
05-11-2007, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by eagles_victory
Bruce Bowen is the Ric Flair of the NBA
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/haydentomas/pivot/ricflair2.gif

KTA
05-11-2007, 08:22 PM
Bruce Bowen is the Ric Flair of the NBA

lol now thats funny

Maroon87
05-11-2007, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by eagles_victory
Bruce Bowen is the Ric Flair of the NBA

As a long time fan of both Ric Flair and the Spurs, I say "thank you.":D

Maroon87
05-12-2007, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by Maroon87
As a long time fan of both Ric Flair and the Spurs, I say "thank you.":D


That means that Duncan is Arn Anderson and Ginobili is Tully Blanchard.

SintonFan
05-12-2007, 12:05 AM
The NBA concluded today that there was no intentional contact on Bruces part.
Jeez folks, I guess we all see what we wanna see.:p
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This is an attempt by Amare "Cry me a river" to get a ref edge going into a tough game 3.:rolleyes:

DU_stud04
05-12-2007, 12:11 AM
i love bowen's style of playing defense,might be a little dirty, but you cant tell me the best defenders out there aren't. not so much dirty, just aggressive.

this is bowen over aggressive. be afraid chuck norris.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/mexmustangs04/bowen_kick.gif

SintonFan
05-12-2007, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by DU_stud04
i love bowen's style of playing defense,might be a little dirty, but you cant tell me the best defenders out there aren't. not so much dirty, just aggressive.

this is bowen over aggressive. be afraid chuck norris.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/mexmustangs04/bowen_kick.gif
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:clap: :clap: :clap:
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And that was just at shootaround!:eek: :D

DU_stud04
05-12-2007, 12:15 AM
spurs playing dirty.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/mexmustangs04/n33901081_30435408_3424.jpg

DU_stud04
05-12-2007, 12:16 AM
ginobili using the force.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/mexmustangs04/n33901081_30434852_4573-1.jpg

SintonFan
05-12-2007, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by DU_stud04
spurs playing dirty.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/mexmustangs04/n33901081_30435408_3424.jpg
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:clap: :clap: :clap:
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Those were taken at practice.:devil:

SintonFan
05-12-2007, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by DU_stud04
ginobili using the force.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/mexmustangs04/n33901081_30434852_4573-1.jpg
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Golden State uses Sith Lords.;)
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Nice photos DU_stud04!:clap: