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WOS87
03-17-2007, 09:50 PM
By specific request...

I've added in what few games I've found prior to 1928 at the beginning and will add them in to the original image when closer to completion

Outside of the 6 year window from 1980-1985 I am only missing 12 scores (50 total) going back to 1928. Please let me know of any errors or omissions and I will correct them.


Snyder Football History 1917-2006


1917

Lawton, OK 13-12
Roscoe 0-24
Roscoe 6-47

1925

Frederick, OK 0-40
Lamesa 0-20
Sweetwater 0-45

1926

Lamesa 0-20
Sweetwater 0-6

1927

Lamesa 6-13
Sweetwater 6-0

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crzyjournalist03
03-17-2007, 09:55 PM
how you're able to compile all this information is simply astounding!

Phantom Stang
03-18-2007, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by WOS87

1982-1985 District 2-4A: [size=1]Andrews, Fort Stockton, Lamesa, Monahans, Pecos, San Angelo Lake View, Snyder, Sweetwater

Note that San Angelo Lakeview is the only one of these schools, that hasn't since dropped to 3A.

DU_stud04
03-18-2007, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Phantom Stang
Note that San Angelo Lakeview is the only one of these schools, that hasn't since dropped to 3A. when did fort stockton fall to 3a?

Adidas410s
03-18-2007, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by DU_stud04
when did fort stockton fall to 3a?

I believe it was the 2000-01 season.

cr180t
03-18-2007, 03:58 PM
You are right 00 was the first season FOrt Stockton was in 3A.. Thanks for doing the research. THe 80's look pretty lean in Snyder

Emerson1
03-18-2007, 03:59 PM
You need to put all this into a book and sell it.

cr180t
03-19-2007, 10:00 AM
That is true put all schools in a book and I bet a lot of people would buy it.

WOS87
03-20-2007, 01:13 AM
I didn't realize Snyder had ever played in the largest classification. They were 4A (the equivalent of 5A) in the 1972-73 realignment.

cr180t
03-20-2007, 09:03 AM
I know in the 50's Snyder was 1 A then over the span of 1 year went to 3A. It was probally called class B then

Black_Magic
03-20-2007, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by cr180t
I know in the 50's Snyder was 1 A then over the span of 1 year went to 3A. It was probally called class B then thats the way it was untill this happend.
http://www.tritonep.com/images/Jack%20County%20Wells/AC%20Ray%202%20pumping%20jack.JPG Then Snyder was 5A in the spand of 15 years.

WOS87
03-21-2007, 12:31 AM
I've posted back 45 seasons now which is more than half of the school's history.

One claim to fame Snyder had in 1969 and which was considered huge at the time may not be apparent just looking at the above tables... but the 7-7 tie against Estacado in the 2nd game of the season was actually considered a huge upset as Estacado was the defending state champs, ranked #1 in the state, and had never lost or tied a game in the young school's history up to that point. In fact 11 out of their first 15 games were shutouts. The '68 Estacado team was the '83 Daingerfield of it's day and the '69 team was expected to be just as good if not better. The tie against Snyder was the only blemish Estacado had against it's record in the first 25 games of the school's existence. To this day it's the best starting record of any school in Texas football history, going 24-0-1 in their first 25 games and losing the 26th to the eventual 1969 state champions..

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Adidas410s
03-21-2007, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by WOS87
I've posted back 45 seasons now which is more than half of the school's history.

One claim to fame Snyder had in 1969 and which was considered huge at the time may not be apparent just looking at the above tables... but the 7-7 tie against Estacado in the 2nd game of the season was actually considered a huge upset as Estacado was the defending state champs, ranked #1 in the state, and had never lost or tied a game in the young school's history up to that point. In fact 11 out of their first 15 games were shutouts. The '68 Estacado team was the '83 Daingerfield of it's day and the '69 team was expected to be just as good if not better. The tie against Snyder was the only blemish Estacado had against it's record in the first 25 games of the school's existence.

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How did Estacado fare against Brownfield in 1968 and 69?

WOS87
03-21-2007, 06:54 AM
Is the graphic not showing up?

1968
Estacado 14
Brownfield 0

1969
Estacado 50
Brownfield 0

LH Panther Mom
03-21-2007, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by WOS87
Is the graphic not showing up?

I see it. :)

Adidas410s
03-21-2007, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by WOS87
Is the graphic not showing up?

1968
Estacado 14
Brownfield 0

1969
Estacado 50
Brownfield 0

Thanks....wasn't it the 68 game in which Brownfield played them closer than anybody else that year...save their win over Refugio by the same 14-0 score?

Bubba-Joe
03-21-2007, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by Adidas410s
Thanks....wasn't it the 68 game in which Brownfield played them closer than anybody else that year...save their win over Refugio by the same 14-0 score? nope
check the scores I think you will see a closer one than 14-0 in 1968

Yes the Sweetwater v Estacado game that year was a 7-0 win

Adidas410s
03-21-2007, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Bubba-Joe
nope
check the scores I think you will see a closer one than 14-0 in 1968

Yes the Sweetwater v Estacado game that year was a 7-0 win

thanks :)

How many points did Estacado give up that year?

WOS87
03-21-2007, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Adidas410s
thanks :)

How many points did Estacado give up that year?

32 in 14 games

WOS87
03-22-2007, 04:25 AM
I'm back to 1955 now and have posted Snyder's ONLY 10-0 regular season in school history which occurred in 1956.

They had an awesome defense that year, only allowing 39 points for the entire season over 11 games, with 6 shutouts. They were one of only two 3A squads statewide to go undefeated and untied in the regular season that year along with eventual state finalist Nederland and while Snyder was a heavy favorite to make it to the finals people were optimistic that the school would at the very least get their first playoff win since 1930. But it was not to be. They were upset in a squeaker 6-7 by Graham in the first round. This was the closest Snyder ever came to getting a playoff win over the entire 48 year span from 1930 to 1978.

And just as a sidenote for completeness, there was a 10th game scheduled to be played in 1957 against Lamesa that would have been a district match, but Sweetwater had already clinched the district title so the game didn't have much significance in the district race and it ended up being cancelled due to a big snowstorm and severely cold temperatures.

cr180t
03-22-2007, 09:04 AM
Great info thanks again

tuff26
03-24-2007, 11:04 AM
Nice to see some good info

tuff26
03-24-2007, 11:45 AM
Wonder when blackie played?

WOS87
03-26-2007, 12:26 AM
I've posted back 65 seasons now to 1942 and Snyder really must have exploded in population right around mid-century as they went from 1A in 1950 to 2A in 1951 to 3A in 1952. (The UIL realigned yearly back then). And in 1952, their first year in 3A, three of their five nondistrict games were against 4A teams (largest classification at the time).

I've also added an extra win to the all-time total as I calculated the win-loss record for 1954 to be 6-4-0 while the UIL has it listed as 5-5-0. The discrepancy is in the last game of the season against Lamesa which all the original sources of the time state Snyder won 7-6, whereas the UIL is counting it as a 6-7 loss. I'm checking to make sure it wasn't misreported but so far it looks like a mistake.

It's also almost eerie how unchanging the winning percentage has been. At the end of the 1941 season Snyder was 8 games under 0.500. They got as close as 3 wins away from hitting 0.500 at the end of 1979 and currently they are not that far away from where they were 65 years ago at 23 games under 0.500.

Black_Magic
03-26-2007, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by tuff26
Wonder when blackie played? Starting something??:mad: I played in the early 80s. A time when they had more guys go play college ball and beyond than in the past few years.

Black_Magic
03-26-2007, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by WOS87
I've posted back 61 seasons now to 1946 and Snyder really must have exploded in population right around mid-century as they went from 1A in 1950 to 2A in 1951 to 3A in 1952. (The UIL realigned yearly back then). And in 1952, their first year in 3A, three of their five nondistrict games were against 4A teams (largest classification at the time).

I've also added an extra win to the all-time total as I calculated the win-loss record for 1954 to be 6-4-0 while the UIL has it listed as 5-5-0. The discrepancy is in the last game of the season against Lamesa which all the original sources of the time state Snyder won 7-6, whereas the UIL is counting it as a 6-7 loss. I'm checking to make sure it wasn't misreported but so far it looks like a mistake.

It's also almost eerie how unchanging the winning percentage has been. At the end of the 1945 season Snyder was 16 games under 0.500. They got as close as 3 wins away from hitting 0.500 at the end of 1979 and currently they are not that far away from where they were 61 years ago at 23 games under 0.500. Snyder has won more games in the last two years than they did in the 1980s.

WOS87
03-29-2007, 01:35 AM
I've posted back to 1939 now and looking at what I have available from the 1930's I should be able to get pretty complete records back to 1930 (which was the season of Snyder's very first playoff appearance, winning their regional championship in Class B, which was as far as you could advance back then) without much difficulty. The 1940 season is an anomaly as it's the one year that I don't have a good source for West Texas scores.

Snyder_TigerFan
03-29-2007, 09:15 AM
I think Snyder needs to add Colorado City back to the schedule...they handed us several whoopings back in the 40s and 50s.;)

Great stuff WOS87!

Black_Magic
03-29-2007, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
I think Snyder needs to add Colorado City back to the schedule...they handed us several whoopings back in the 40s and 50s.;)

Great stuff WOS87! C-City is WAY WAY down right now. They will struggle for the next 3 years the word is. they went 0-10 in the 2-a district they are in. May be JV game or sub varsity games though. How about getting Sweetwater back on the schedule.?:D

tuff26
03-29-2007, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Black_Magic
Starting something??:mad: I played in the early 80s. A time when they had more guys go play college ball and beyond than in the past few years.

16-84 1980-1989 season

WOS87
03-31-2007, 04:42 AM
I've made it back to 1935 with just the first 100 games on official record left to find....

Items of note from the late 1930's:
Colorado City was a scheduled opponent twice during the 1935 and '36 seasons, with the agreement between the two that the first meeting would not count in district play and the second game would.

In 1936, Snyder won it's 4th district title ever by means of Roscoe being forced to forfeit all of it's district wins due to an ineligible player.

1937 marked the most recent meeting between the Abilene High varsity and Snyder ending in a 0-54 slaughter. This is tied for 3rd on the list of Snyder's worst defeats over the entire time period researched (1935-2006) with the worst being Lubbock High's 75-0 win in 1935 and 2nd worst being Monahans' 63-0 shutout in 1987. Eventual state champ Estacado tied the Abilene record by also winning 54-0 in 1968.

With the games against Abilene and Odessa in 1937 added in, Snyder has at one time or another played every team in the current "Little SWC" District 3-5A except for Abilene Cooper, notching 2 wins against Midland and 1 win against Midland Lee along the way. I'd say that was pretty brave for a program that has only played 2 seasons out of the past 85 in the largest classification.

cr180t
03-31-2007, 10:38 PM
The 31 season was the best in school histroy

WOS87
04-01-2007, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by cr180t
The 31 season was the best in school histroy

The 1930 Region champs were the most impressive and most touted team in the press of the time, with 3 consecutive shutouts in the district championship, the bidistrict round and the regional championship. They already had clinched their zone title before Halloween, and the district championship game wasn't until Thanksgiving day so they were scrambling to find opponents to play to keep in shape, resorting to even playing a university freshman squad as so few local high school teams wanted to play them. Every source I have states that the win-loss total for the season was 11-2-0 but I could not find the 2nd loss anywhere. There is mention before the season began that a game had been scheduled with Sweetwater but then I never found any record of the game being played. I'm assuming it must have come in the period between the Colorado City and Haskell games as there was a 4 week gap there. The total offensive point production for the season was somewhere from 349 to 355 total points scored (I have one source saying 349 and another 355), which makes it the 2nd highest season point total ever for the program, behind the 2004 semifinalists.

The following year, Snyder was still impressive but I don't think they were quite on the level as the 1930 team. They got blown out pretty badly by Abilene and Sweetwater, but won their district and both playoff games and thought they had won the 1931 Region championship as well. They had already had their football banquet and were out for the holidays when a Stanton coach accused them of using an ineligible player. The case went to the UIL and Snyder was stripped of the title, and forced to forfeit both playoff games. Stanton and Comanche (the two teams Snyder beat) played a 2nd Region championship game on Christmas day 1931 with Comanche coming out on top and resulting in them being listed as the official champ of that region in 1931 with Snyder officially credited as losing by forfeit in the bi-district round. The UIL tallies their record for 1931 as 6-4-0 but to remain consistent with my policy of always using on-the-field records to calculate my stats (pointing out forfeits where they occur), I have the season record as 8-2-0, thus adding a couple of wins to the all-time total.

cr180t
04-01-2007, 10:10 PM
Thanks again this is great information

RMAC
04-01-2007, 11:08 PM
Anybody notice in like '68 or something, that Snyder's district had Hirshi in it? Imagine making that drive from Wichita to San Angelo just for a district game. . . thankfully the state has grown some since then.

WOS87
04-02-2007, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by RMAC
Anybody notice in like '68 or something, that Snyder's district had Hirshi in it? Imagine making that drive from Wichita to San Angelo just for a district game. . . thankfully the state has grown some since then.

Yeah, that was in 1969 and only lasted one year. It wasn't that bad because the district was divided into North and South Zones so only the Northern zone teams had to play Hirschi. Snyder was in the South Zone so they never played each other.

WOS87
04-03-2007, 04:44 PM
I found half of the scores for the 1940 season and am just adding them here until I can get home this evening and update the original post:

9/20 Kermit 0-12
9/27 Putnam 23-0
10/18 Loraine 6-24
10/25 Merkel 6-25
11/15 Hermleigh 0-13

I think I'm now only missing 50 game scores over a period of 79 seasons... not too bad of a ratio, but hopefully will continue to decrease.

cr180t
04-04-2007, 10:36 AM
Where is Putnam

Black_Magic
04-04-2007, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by cr180t
Where is Putnam Come on!! You should know. Its an ITY BITTY PLACE between Baird and Cisco

WOS87
04-04-2007, 10:51 AM
About 25 miles east of Abilene right on I-20

Putnam, TX Map (http://www.google.com/maps?q=Putnam,+TX,+USA&sa=X&oi=map&ct=image)

cr180t
04-04-2007, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Black_Magic
Come on!! You should know. Its an ITY BITTY PLACE between Baird and Cisco

YOu probally dated someone from there huh

Black_Magic
04-04-2007, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by cr180t
YOu probally dated someone from there huh No,didnt date them..

cr180t
04-05-2007, 08:59 AM
WOW 1917