Longhorns vs. Aggies (Basketball)

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Who wins it tonight? It's going to take a great game out of UT in order to walk away with it, but I think they are capable. Durant needs to have a good night, along with a few others. They need to be firing on all cylinders.

ESPN 2:mad: tonight at 8 pm.

[Bull19]

AGS OF COURSE, THEY WON THE FIRST TIME,,,,AUTOMATICALLY MEANS THEY WIN THE SECOND,,, BUT THEY MUST SCORE MORE POINTS THAN TEXAS TO DO THAT.

[big daddy russ]

Durant brings it every night. It's the role players that have to step up for UT to win.

[Adidas410s]

Texas is hot...Ags just let Baylor put up 87 or 89 on them. It's in Austin.

Texas by 8

[awizzy]

Texas has been playing better D as of late. They key tonite will be AJ Abrahms, if hes on the horns will win

i say texas by 7

[CHS_CG]

ags had an ok game against Baylor, they will be fired up tonight. They know there is a lot on the line with this game and will be ready to make Texas play their ball! It should be a close game but I will say ags by 6

[kepdawg]

Durant only scored 1 point in the second half against Villanova so I'll give the edge to the Aggies tonight.

[coach]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
Texas is hot...Ags just let Baylor put up 87 or 89 on them. It's in Austin.

Texas by 8

how can u say that texas is hot and the ags just let baylor put up 87......texas beat baylor by freakin 1 point...damn they are on a role

[KTJ]

Originally posted by coach
how can u say that texas is hot and the ags just let baylor put up 87......texas beat baylor by freakin 1 point...damn they are on a role


Neither logic is great so in the end, it's moot.

[kaorder1999]

i hate college basketball!

[CHS_CG]

Originally posted by kaorder1999
i hate college basketball!


shut ur mouth!

[Phil C]

Don't forget that the Lady Horns and Lady Aggies also play basketball tonight on FSN starting at 6 P.M.

[GreenGobbla]

Originally posted by Phil C
Don't forget that the Lady Horns and Lady Aggies also play basketball tonight on FSN starting at 6 P.M.

dont like either, but cant stand the longhorns, would love to see the ags take it...

[TheDOCTORdre]

Texas wins tonight and then will go on to beat Kansas on Saturday

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by coach
how can u say that texas is hot and the ags just let baylor put up 87......texas beat baylor by freakin 1 point...damn they are on a role texas has won 5 in a row and i understand adiddas's point a team whose suppose to be the best in the nation at defense and thrives on their defense gives up 87 to one of the worst teams in the big 12. not a good sign

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by coach
how can u say that texas is hot and the ags just let baylor put up 87......texas beat baylor by freakin 1 point...damn they are on a role

Texas
Iowa State...wins by 11
Ok State...wins by 29
@ Baylor...wins by 1
Texas Tech...wins by 29
@ Oklahoma...wins by 10

Texas is averaging 75 points/game and giving up 59 points/game over their last 5 games. I'll take a 16 point MOV any day ;)

The Aggies have been giving up 57 ppg this season. Their last two games before Baylor...they gave up 49 @ Oklahoma and 46 @ Oklahoma St. All of a sudden they give up a season high 87 points to Baylor at home??? That just doesn't make sense. Call it a letdown...call it what you want. Their most recent game was shocking to me and that's why I think Texas has a chance to win it.

[Bulldog_12]

Thats a stupid assumption. I wouldn't count out the aggie defense. Before the Baylor game A&M had held OU and OSU to their lowest outputs of the season AT THEIR PLACE. Why don't I use your same logic and say that I would worry about every facet of texas' game when they only beat that same last place team by only 1 point, and thats because they are stupid and took a terrible shot to end it.

The key for the Ags isnt Durant. He will get his 30, you just have to contain Augustin and Abrams. If you shut down their guard play then texas is worthless.

hey Phil, did you also know the womens game determines the Big 12 champion? If the Lady Ags win, they clinch at least part of the championship. It would be nice to hold up two trophies after the game, the lonestar showdown and the Big 12.

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
Texas is hot...Ags just let Baylor put up 87 or 89 on them. It's in Austin.

Texas by 8 the fact that Baylor did this or so-n-so did that will not factor in. Baylor almost beat A&M in football too, but A&M managed to beat UT....so that logic is flawed. A&M by 12

[gobble_up03]

I'm gonna be at the game tonight!!!....just thought i'd say that

HOOK 'EM HORNS!!!!

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
the fact that Baylor did this or so-n-so did that will not factor in. Baylor almost beat A&M in football too, but A&M managed to beat UT....so that logic is flawed. A&M by 12

I wasn't looking at the fact that A&M beat Baylor...I was looking at the fact that A&M's defense had a VERY large abbaration in the # of points that they gave up to Baylor and was questioning why.

So why is it not a factor if a team gives up does something out of the ordinary for them? There has to be a reason for that, correct? Did Baylor shoot lights out? Did the Ags relax on defense? Were the Ags looking ahead to Texas? There are a lot of possible answers. I was merely raising the information into question as a POSSIBLE factor. I'm not saying that "because A&M gave up a lot of points and because Texas has 5 in a row that Texas will win." I was pointing out a few things...and then making my own predicition. It's not a matter of pure logic...it's a matter of making logical observations and then making "an educated guess" based on such information. If I had listed those two statements and then said, "Aggies by 4"...then THAT would be poor logic but I wouldn't be questioned by the Aggie homers. ;)

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by Bulldog_12
Thats a stupid assumption. I wouldn't count out the aggie defense. Before the Baylor game A&M had held OU and OSU to their lowest outputs of the season AT THEIR PLACE. Why don't I use your same logic and say that I would worry about every facet of texas' game when they only beat that same last place team by only 1 point, and thats because they are stupid and took a terrible shot to end it.

You say it's a stupid assumption...yet you pointed out the same things that I did about the Ags two previous games. I'm raising their defensive play against Baylor into question. I'm allowed to do that. Sorry I didn't pick the Ags to win. If I had picked them to win...you wouldn't be saying it's a stupid assumption. Don't be a homer...it's a bad trait to have. I'm just merely making an observation and asking WHY were the Ags so bad defensively against Baylor? When I can see for certain that Texas has played well as of late and the Ags all of a sudden had a hickup in their last game that doesn't make sense...I'll take "the safe play" and pick Texas since the game is in Austin. If it was in College Station...I would probably take A&M by 3-5 points.

[CHS_CG]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
Ithen THAT would be poor logic but I wouldn't be questioned by the Aggie homers. ;)

Its not so much being questioned by aggie homers its aggie faithful defending and having an opinion to your statement.:)

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
I wasn't looking at the fact that A&M beat Baylor...I was looking at the fact that A&M's defense had a VERY large abbaration in the # of points that they gave up to Baylor and was questioning why.

So why is it not a factor if a team gives up does something out of the ordinary for them? There has to be a reason for that, correct? Did Baylor shoot lights out? Did the Ags relax on defense? Were the Ags looking ahead to Texas? There are a lot of possible answers. I was merely raising the information into question as a POSSIBLE factor. I'm not saying that "because A&M gave up a lot of points and because Texas has 5 in a row that Texas will win." I was pointing out a few things...and then making my own predicition. It's not a matter of pure logic...it's a matter of making logical observations and then making "an educated guess" based on such information. If I had listed those two statements and then said, "Aggies by 4"...then THAT would be poor logic but I wouldn't be questioned by the Aggie homers. ;) LOL...thats too much to read...but I was just poking at the "Team A beat Team B, and Team B beat Team C, so Team A should smoke Team C" logic, as I thought that was where you were going w/ your above post. I see that logic on here all the time...and it's silly. No harm, no foul, peace out amigo!

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by CHS_CG
Its not so much being questioned by aggie homers its aggie faithful defending and having an opinion to your statement.:)

thank you for defining a homer for me.

Let me post this b44 style ;)

Aggie homers =
aggie faithful =
sheep lovers

thanks for playing

[CHS_CG]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
thank you for defining a homer for me.

Let me post this b44 style ;)

Aggie homers =
aggie faithful =
sheep lovers

thanks for playing

oh i forgot.. nobody but forrest is ever right:clap:


:doh: how easy it is to forget

[mchavez]

Not tonight, I dont see those ugly aggies coming down to Austin with a win! Texas by 9! Hook'em!

[Bulldog_12]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
You say it's a stupid assumption...yet you pointed out the same things that I did about the Ags two previous games. I'm raising their defensive play against Baylor into question. I'm allowed to do that. Sorry I didn't pick the Ags to win. If I had picked them to win...you wouldn't be saying it's a stupid assumption. Don't be a homer...it's a bad trait to have. I'm just merely making an observation and asking WHY were the Ags so bad defensively against Baylor? When I can see for certain that Texas has played well as of late and the Ags all of a sudden had a hickup in their last game that doesn't make sense...I'll take "the safe play" and pick Texas since the game is in Austin. If it was in College Station...I would probably take A&M by 3-5 points.

I wasnt referring to you. You just posted as I was posting. it was directed at EV. I could care less that you didnt pick the Ags to win anyways. When in my history have you ever seen me to be a raging homer on here? Id like to think that I am pretty objective about it. He was just saying it is a bad sign that we allowed Baylor to get 87. I just said that it was stupid to assume that and by using the same logic I threw out the texas/baylor stat along with OSU/OU. I hope the horn team thinks the same as EV on our defense.

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by CHS_CG
oh i forgot.. nobody but forrest is ever right:clap:


:doh: how easy it is to forget

I never said I was right...you just tried to put homer spin on it...and we will have none of that around here ;)

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by Bulldog_12
I wasnt referring to you. You just posted as I was posting. it was directed at EV. I could care less that you didnt pick the Ags to win anyways. When in my history have you ever seen me to be a raging homer on here? Id like to think that I am pretty objective about it. He was just saying it is a bad sign that we allowed Baylor to get 87. I just said that it was stupid to assume that and by using the same logic I threw out the texas/baylor stat along with OSU/OU. I hope the horn team thinks the same as EV on our defense. First off thanks for dropping my name real respectful. Secondly I never said A&M didnt have a great defense. However if i was an aggie i would be a little concerned that they had a defesnive lapse this time of year against Baylor. Maybe it was just one bad game but when your defense is what makes you great it cant start to slip in March. Which is right around the corner

[Bulldog_12]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
First off thanks for dropping my name real respectful.

:confused:
I was responding to you so why wouldnt I drop your name?

[piratebg]

I just want a good, close, and clean game. I hope that's not too much to ask for. :)

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by Bulldog_12
:confused:
I was responding to you so why wouldnt I drop your name? first sign of a homer gets very offended when someone offers constructive critisim of his team

[neck_06]

Both Aggie hoops teams have a chance to win Big XII Championships with wins over tu tonight!!!

Aggie Women up 34-29 at the half.

[coach]

i dont follow girls basktball much but did the lady longhorns get a new coach???

[sahen]

Originally posted by coach
i dont follow girls basktball much but did the lady longhorns get a new coach??? no Conradt is still the coach there...


oh and the Men's Baylor team is 2nd to last not last...gee atleast give us taht we are better than Colorado...

[awizzy]

good game so far i am gonna fail my test tomorrow bc of this game

[tigerpride_08]

Originally posted by awizzy
good game so far i am gonna fail my test tomorrow bc of this game

aw i bet you would fail it anyway...:D

[awizzy]

Originally posted by tigerpride_08
aw i bet you would fail it anyway...:D
probally i got that good ole west columbia edgeumaction

[bullfrog_alumni_02]

just saw the 'horns won 43-36...kind of a low scoring game, but ill take it. hey t, how bout them aggs? :D nah, they each got one this year. good luck to both of em in the big XII tourny, and then march madness.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by bullfrog_alumni_02
just saw the 'horns won 43-36...kind of a low scoring game, but ill take it. hey t, how bout them aggs? :D nah, they each got one this year. good luck to both of em in the big XII tourny, and then march madness.

uhh that was half...Texas has a one point lead with 12 seconds left

[Adidas410s]

Texas 78
Texas A&M 75

9 seconds left...Aggie ball after Texas timeout

heck of a game either way

[gobbler grad]

Acie Law IV shoots the 3...let's see what happens

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by gobbler grad
Acie Law IV shoots the 3...let's see what happens

remember...Texas can foul and force the Ags to the line for a 1-and-1 situation

[bullfrog_alumni_02]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
uhh that was half...Texas has a one point lead with 12 seconds left oh...i was just lookin on rivals.com and that is what it said and it had a w next to it. but whatever, case in point...um...i dont have one.

[gobbler grad]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
remember...Texas can foul and force the Ags to the line for a 1-and-1 situation

yep, that could happen too...

[Adidas410s]

wow...A.C. Law just hit a SICK 3...that was crazier than Durant's 3 pt shot...

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Good Lord. I can't take it.

[gobbler grad]

Originally posted by gobbler grad
Acie Law IV shoots the 3...let's see what happens


didn't see that comin'...:thinking:

[piratebg]

OVERTIME :eek:

[piratebg]

This has turned into one hell of a game. Great game by both teams. :clap: :clap: :clap:

[awizzy]

i am going to throw up

[Pmoney]

How did Law hit that?????:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Snyder_TigerFan]

I find it funny how every time a Texas player draws a foul the camera goes to Gillespie and his facial expression is that he can't believe they called a foul.

[piratebg]

It's fun to watch all if not most coaches' facial expressions when a foul is called on their team, especially in a tight game like this. :D

[dogdad]

Gillespie is a hoot

[piratebg]

Damn. The Aggies are putting up one hell of a fight.

[Adidas410s]

A.C. Law is good...like really good...

[piratebg]

Double OT!!!

Law hits another 3 to tie :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Adidas410s]

here comes another overtime...

[Snyder_TigerFan]

It just slipped through UT's fingers.

[Pmoney]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
It just slipped through UT's fingers.
not yet A&M hasnt won it...UT will succeed

[Adidas410s]

did yall see that stat? AC Law shoots just under 90% from the field in the last 4 minutes of games. That's just sick...

I wonder if he means FT% though...

[Pmoney]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
did yall see that stat? AC Law shoots just under 90% from the field in the last 4 minutes of games. That's just sick...

I wonder if he means FT% though...
prolly FT

[Pmoney]

How can you throw that ball away?!!?!:foul:

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Wow, that's 2 VERY costly turnovers from Texas.

[piratebg]

This is just a slugfest by both teams. The Longhorns just turned over the ball with 20 seconds left and they are fighting to hold on to a 2 point lead. I love this game. :clap: :clap: :clap:

[kepdawg]

:mad: Why did Barnes call the throw the ball to an Aggie inbound play!?! :mad:

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by kepdawg
:mad: Why did Barnes call the throw the ball to an Aggie inbound play!?! :mad:

hahaha

[kepdawg]

Please! Make your FT's!

[piratebg]

Missed the first :mad:

[RMAC]

Originally posted by kepdawg
Please! Make your FT's!

GIVE IT TO ACIE!!!

[piratebg]

UT up 96-93 with 11.9 left. I wonder who the Ags will give the ball to? :thinking:

[kepdawg]

ATTENTION TEXAS: AS SOON AS THE BALL IS INBOUNDED PUNCH ACIE LAW IV IN THE NUTS! DON'T LET HIM SHOOT THE BALL! :mad:

[dogdad]

A&M can't do it again.................can they?

[Pmoney]

Originally posted by piratebg
UT up 96-93 with 11.9 left. I wonder who the Ags will give the ball to? :thinking:
i say the Serbian lol

[piratebg]

Originally posted by Pmoney
i say the Serbian lol


I wouldn't rule that out.

[gobbler grad]

does Law make the 3rd one????????:thinking:

[Pmoney]

Originally posted by piratebg
I wouldn't rule that out.
i was right:D

[piratebg]

Hmmm...They get the 2 then foul. UT 96 A&M 95 with 5.3 left. Interesting strategy. :thinking:

[dogdad]

what a classic this game is!!!!!!!!!!!

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by kepdawg
Please! Make your FT's!

[piratebg]

Made the first. :D

[RMAC]

Don't forget he's a busy guy folks. After the game, him and Durant are going to cure AIDS really quick. They would've done it sooner, but they've just been pretty busy.:D

[piratebg]

Made the 2nd :clap: :clap: :clap:

[TexanAlum_06]

TEXAS WINS!!!!!:D :clap: :clap:

[piratebg]

UT WINS!!!!!

[kepdawg]

Wow!

[dogdad]

wow!

[Snyder_TigerFan]

What a game.

[Pmoney]

HOOK 'EM:clap: :D

[piratebg]

What a game!!! It almost looked like the Aggies had that tying shot off the rebound. Awesome performances from two great players.

[Pmoney]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
What a game.
man....one of the greatest games of the season

[TigerPride]

Great game!

[Stownhorse]

Originally posted by Pmoney
man....one of the greatest games of the season

Doubt it, but close

[bullfrog_alumni_02]

alls i cares about is that UT got the W.

[Pmoney]

Originally posted by Stownhorse
Doubt it, but close
what games are better? UT-OSU, and???

[$cooter!]

At least now we will get respect, and a possible top 10 ranking.

[BreckTxLonghorn]

Great win Horns, but most importantly, GREAT GAME to both teams.

I hope they play each other AT LEAST twice more in the upcoming month (BigXII and March Madness). After tonight, the nation deserves to see what it missed the first time.

:clap: :clap: :clap: to both teams. I think we all can agree on that one.

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by $cooter!
At least now we will get respect, and a possible top 10 ranking.

Don't flatter yourselves, Texas is not that good, just played to a higher level than they have all year. Subpar for most of the season and have won one big game. I'll retract that if Texas can beat Kansas, but until then, I'm not buying the fact that Texas has been given a lack of respect and have been underrated. Texas and Texas A&M have a history of a rivalry, and the best team doesn't always win, just the team that has the crowd on their side. I'm not trying to make any excuses for tonight, the Aggies just played at the Longhorns level tonight and it was disappointing.

[neck_06]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
Don't flatter yourselves, Texas is not that good, just played to a higher level than they have all year. Subpar for most of the season and have won one big game. I'll retract that if Texas can beat Kansas, but until then, I'm not buying the fact that Texas has been given a lack of respect and have been underrated. Texas and Texas A&M have a history of a rivalry, and the best team doesn't always win, just the team that has the crowd on their side. I'm not trying to make any excuses for tonight, the Aggies just played at the Longhorns level tonight and it was disappointing.

i second that, james had the game of his life and durant is good.

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by neck_06
i second that, james had the game of his life and durant is good.

Did ya'll win tonight?

[FormerBellvilleBrahma]

Originally posted by BreckTxLonghorn


I hope they play each other AT LEAST twice more in the upcoming month (BigXII and March Madness). After tonight, the nation deserves to see what it missed the first time.

The 1st time tu got beat, the 2nd time tu got lucky!!!!!!!!!

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Originally posted by FormerBellvilleBrahma
The 1st time tu got beat, the 2nd time tu got lucky!!!!!!!!!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[mwynn05]

A&M might have lost but they showed they can beat any one tonight

[JHS_c/o_06']

Varsity's Horns are glued back on
Varsity's Horns are glued back on
Varsity's Horns are glued on

ELMERS!


lol

great game, very nerve racking. I was at work and got to catch some of it. Horns played a good game, but so did the Ags, you guys and your last second 3 to tie the game shots...lol......great game.

[FormerBellvilleBrahma]

Horns fall of big time vs Kanses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
Texas and Texas A&M have a history of a rivalry, and the best team doesn't always win like in football this year?

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
like in football this year?

Well, if Colt McCoy had not been hurt, it would have been an entirely different ballgame, but Texas did have the homefield advantage. I can see your argument.

[eagles_victory]

Im just saying texas led for most of the night and A&M throws up a hail mary shot (even though great shot by Acie) and Texas led for almost the entire time in both OT's it hard for me to say Texas got lucky and A&M is a way better team. Ill give you A&M is a better team and more tournament ready but not by a whole lot

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by mwynn05
A&M might have lost but they showed they can beat any one tonight
Anyone but Tech.... ;)

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
Don't flatter yourselves, Texas is not that good, just played to a higher level than they have all year. Subpar for most of the season and have won one big game. I'll retract that if Texas can beat Kansas, but until then, I'm not buying the fact that Texas has been given a lack of respect and have been underrated. Texas and Texas A&M have a history of a rivalry, and the best team doesn't always win, just the team that has the crowd on their side. I'm not trying to make any excuses for tonight, the Aggies just played at the Longhorns level tonight and it was disappointing.

I would not say Texas has been playing "subpar". I would say they have been playing like everyone expected them to..A young talented team who one game would look like world beaters, then the next game struggle. That is what happens when you have so many freshman/sophomore

And for the record on "big" games

Texas A&M is 3-3 this year agianst top 25 teams including one win agianst a top 10 team

Texas is 3-3 agianst the top 25 this year including two wins agianst top 10 teams

[IHStangFan]

one of the best bball games I've seen in a long time!!!!

[Rabbit'93]

One of the best games I've seen this year. Law is clutch in every sense of the word.

Texas is coming on strong towards the end of the season as any young team should. Let's hope they get seeded in the tourney to where they meet up again.

[CHS_CG]

ok... so i got a question...

say Kansas loses to Texas, and Aggies win against Missiouri...

that puts it in a 3 way tie for 1st in the big 12 right?

Well, Ags beat Kansas in Kansas, and we have more over all wins than Texas... so how is the big 12 decided?

[kaorder1999]

Originally posted by CHS_CG
ok... so i got a question...

say Kansas loses to Texas, and Aggies win against Missiouri...

that puts it in a 3 way tie for 1st in the big 12 right?

Well, Ags beat Kansas in Kansas, and we have more over all wins than Texas... so how is the big 12 decided?

whoever was the last school to win a National Championship in football would be the number 1 team! ;)

[CHS_CG]

Originally posted by kaorder1999
whoever was the last school to win a National Championship in football would be the number 1 team! ;)


hahahahaha NOT.... im asking a legit question guys come on!

[kaorder1999]

i honestly dont know. Thats why I dont like college basketball. Have to think too much!

[CHS_CG]

Originally posted by kaorder1999
i honestly dont know. Thats why I dont like college basketball. Have to think too much!


then dont get my hopes up with an answer lol


meany!

[Funk-d-fied]

Great game, The horns escaped in their own house in double overtime. Acie Law has to be the player of the year in the Big12! Wow, first team all-american lock! Great win for the horns, a little sketchy on the foul call difference but what the hey, even with all of that it took 2 overtime's to get it done.

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

A&M and Kansas will be co-Big XII Champions, and A&M will get the #1 seed in the Big XII Tournament because of the head-to-head victory over the Jayhawks. Texas will be considered a #3 seed.

[Funk-d-fied]

The Longhorns are on the verge of pulling off one of the more surprising story lines of the season. If Texas (12-3 Big 12, 22-7 overall) wins at Kansas (13-2, 26-4) Saturday -- of course, still quite a tall order -- then the Longhorns would win the Big 12 and be the No. 1 seed in the conference tournament next week in Oklahoma City.

Texas A&M (12-3, 24-5) hosts Missouri and must root for rival Texas to beat Kansas to share the title. If the three teams are tied, then Texas wins the tiebreaker by virtue of a better record against the South Division teams than A&M, according to the Longhorns. (The teams split their games and both, in this scenario, would have won at Kansas in the only meeting. Texas has two South Division losses, though, while the Aggies have three).

[CHS_CG]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
A&M and Kansas will be co-Big XII Champions, and A&M will get the #1 seed in the Big XII Tournament because of the head-to-head victory over the Jayhawks. Texas will be considered a #3 seed.


well what if Texas wins against Kansas?

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by CHS_CG
well what if Texas wins against Kansas?

nm

[Funk-d-fied]

Team Stat Comparison
TEXAS A&M TEXAS
Points 96 98
FG Made-Attempted 34-76 (.447) 29-63 (.460)
3P Made-Attempted 13-25 (.520) 11-25 (.440)
FT Made-Attempted 15-23 (.652) 29-41 (.707)
Fouls (Tech/Flagrant) 28 (0/0) 17 (0/0)
Largest Lead 7 11
Game Leaders
TEXAS A&M TEXAS
Points A. Law IV 33 K. Durant 30
Rebounds J. Jones 11 K. Durant 16
Assists A. Law IV 5 D. Augustin 7
Steals M. Pompey 2 D. Augustin 2
Blocks M. Pompey 1 K. Durant 3

[kaorder1999]

Originally posted by Funk-d-fied
The Longhorns are on the verge of pulling off one of the more surprising story lines of the season. If Texas (12-3 Big 12, 22-7 overall) wins at Kansas (13-2, 26-4) Saturday -- of course, still quite a tall order -- then the Longhorns would win the Big 12 and be the No. 1 seed in the conference tournament next week in Oklahoma City.

Texas A&M (12-3, 24-5) hosts Missouri and must root for rival Texas to beat Kansas to share the title. If the three teams are tied, then Texas wins the tiebreaker by virtue of a better record against the South Division teams than A&M, according to the Longhorns. (The teams split their games and both, in this scenario, would have won at Kansas in the only meeting. Texas has two South Division losses, though, while the Aggies have three).

this makes sense

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by CHS_CG
ok... so i got a question...

say Kansas loses to Texas, and Aggies win against Missiouri...

that puts it in a 3 way tie for 1st in the big 12 right?

Well, Ags beat Kansas in Kansas, and we have more over all wins than Texas... so how is the big 12 decided?
Tiebreakers - The first criteria in the breaking of ties in the standings shall be head-to-head competition of tied teams. The following procedure will be used to establish the championship seeds if ties exist. (For tiebreaking procedures teams will be grouped in two divisions based upon established guidelines. Colorado, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri and Nebraska are in one division and Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech are in the other division.)



(a) If two teams are tied and they are from different divisions, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the higher seed.
(b) If two teams are tied and they are from the same division, the team with an advantage in head-to-head competition shall be the higher seed.
(c) If two teams remain tied, there will be a comparison of overall record against division teams only (10 divisional games).
(d) If two teams remain tied, there will be a comparison of record against the highest ranked team(s) (based upon Conference winning percentage) in the division and proceeding through in order of divisional record.
(e) If two teams remain tied, there will be a *comparison of record against the highest ranked team(s) (based upon Conference winning percentage) in the opposite division and proceeding through in order of divisional record.
(f) If two teams remain tied, the higher seed will be chosen by draw.
(g) If three or more teams are tied, ties among divisional opponents will be broken first by using steps (b) through (f) and the head-to-head results will be used to break ties between non-divisional teams. When three or more teams from the same division are tied step (b) will consist of a mini- round robin among the tied teams. At any point during the process of breaking ties among three or more teams that the number of tied teams are reduced to two, head-to-head competition would be used as the primary tie-breaker, followed-by steps (c) through (f).

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Originally posted by Funk-d-fied
The Longhorns are on the verge of pulling off one of the more surprising story lines of the season. If Texas (12-3 Big 12, 22-7 overall) wins at Kansas (13-2, 26-4) Saturday -- of course, still quite a tall order -- then the Longhorns would win the Big 12 and be the No. 1 seed in the conference tournament next week in Oklahoma City.

Texas A&M (12-3, 24-5) hosts Missouri and must root for rival Texas to beat Kansas to share the title. If the three teams are tied, then Texas wins the tiebreaker by virtue of a better record against the South Division teams than A&M, according to the Longhorns. (The teams split their games and both, in this scenario, would have won at Kansas in the only meeting. Texas has two South Division losses, though, while the Aggies have three).

Makes sense to me.

It's going to be a TALL order for Texas, coming off of a double overtime game, to go into Kansas and get the win. I'd love to see it happen, but it's hard for me to fathom.

[Funk-d-fied]

If tu beats Kansas and A&M beats Mizzou

Kansas and A&M share the BIG12 Title!

If Kansas beats tu and A&M wins

Kansas wins the BIG12 title outright...



Bottom line for Aggie Fans, tu Has to win for The AGGIES to win the Big 12 title.....


If Kansas wins, the ags will go to the big12 tourney and win it and then get thier #1 or #2 seed in the big dance and go from there.

[Adidas410s]

So assume again that we end up with Kansas, Texas, and A&M all at 13-3. Kansas is out since it would have lost to both schools. Since they split the head-to-head matchups...A&M's two losses to Tech will cost them the title since all 3 of their losses are to South Division schools while Texas only has 2 losses to South Division schools.

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by Funk-d-fied
If tu beats Kansas and A&M beats Mizzou

Kansas and A&M share the BIG12 Title!

If Kansas beats tu and A&M wins

Kansas wins the BIG12 title outright...



Bottom line for Aggie Fans, tu Has to win for The AGGIES to win the Big 12 title.....


If Kansas wins, the ags will go to the big12 tourney and win it and then get thier #1 or #2 seed in the big dance and go from there.

A&M can't win the Big 12 title. They will be the 2nd seed in the tourney now.

Kansas beats Texas...they'll be 14-2. The best A&M can do is 13-3. If Texas beats Kansas, all 3 teams are 13-3 and Texas wins because tiebreaker "c" gives them the advantage with fewer losses in the south division.

[Funk-d-fied]

in the case of a tie,


Rule #18.525 in the Big12 tie-breaker rule book
pg.32 section12 paragraph3.


In the case of a three wat tie- No team that losses to Baylor in conference play shall not share a piece of the Big12 Championship.

[kaorder1999]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
A&M can't win the Big 12 title. They will be the 2nd seed in the tourney now.

Kansas beats Texas...they'll be 14-2. The best A&M can do is 13-3. If Texas beats Kansas, all 3 teams are 13-3 and Texas wins because tiebreaker "c" gives them the advantage with fewer losses in the south division.

man you are thinking way too much this early in the morning!

[Funk-d-fied]

It doesn't matter, A&M will share the Big12 Title with a tu win and a win of thier own. The only things your "c" means is seeding in the conference tourney..... sorry to bust that bubble.

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by kaorder1999
man you are thinking way too much this early in the morning!

The second I went on to MSN this morning I had a message from T asking me to figure it out...so I had to get her off my back hehe ;)

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
A&M can't win the Big 12 title. They will be the 2nd seed in the tourney now.

Kansas beats Texas...they'll be 14-2. The best A&M can do is 13-3. If Texas beats Kansas, all 3 teams are 13-3 and Texas wins because tiebreaker "c" gives them the advantage with fewer losses in the south division.

Actually, they all shared the title. Even if A&M had won, and Kansas won against Texas, then A&M would have shared the title with the Jayhawks. All of that stuff only matters for the seeding in the Big XII Tournament.

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by Funk-d-fied
It doesn't matter, A&M will share the Big12 Title with a tu win and a win of thier own. The only things your "c" means is seeding in the conference tourney..... sorry to bust that bubble.

Whatever works for ya...here's your piece of the pie.

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[kaorder1999]

Originally posted by Funk-d-fied
in the case of a tie,


Rule #18.525 in the Big12 tie-breaker rule book
pg.32 section12 paragraph3.


In the case of a three wat tie- No team that losses to Baylor in conference play shall not share a piece of the Big12 Championship.

im confused...

:D

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
Actually, they all shared the title. Even if A&M had won, and Kansas won against Texas, then A&M would have shared the title with the Jayhawks. All of that stuff only matters for the seeding in the Big XII Tournament.

Like I said...they'll be the 2nd seed :D

[Funk-d-fied]

They will be the 2 seed and that means in Texas gets passed a second round matchup with Baylor the only way they could meet would be in the title game! And texas looks to matchup in the semi-finals against Kansas yet again...

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
Like I said...they'll be the 2nd seed :D

No, you said the Ags couldn't win the Big XII title, and I was correcting you.

[kaorder1999]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
No, you said the Ags couldn't win the Big XII title, and I was correcting you.

they cant outright can they? who cares...all that matters is who wins the tourney.

[Funk-d-fied]

not outright but nontheless will share the Title!

[kaorder1999]

i sure as heck wouldnt brag about being the regular season conference champion and not the tournament winner but thats just me.

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
No, you said the Ags couldn't win the Big XII title, and I was correcting you.

read the sentence after that...


Originally posted by Adidas410s
They will be the 2nd seed in the tourney now.

thanks for playing...#2

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[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by kaorder1999
they cant outright can they? who cares...all that matters is who wins the tourney.

For once. Most years nobody cares about the tourney. I'm kinda bummed that it's not here in Dallas this year. Unlike last years...I would actually go this year.

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
read the sentence after that...



thanks for playing...#2

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No Dr. Evil, I read the sentence after that. Your first was the one I was talking about, and it was a false statement. Thanks for playing.

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
No Dr. Evil, I read the sentence after that. Your first was the one I was talking about, and it was a false statement. Thanks for playing.

They can't win the title. They can win part of it..but they can't win all of it. Kansas is the only team that can still win the Big 12 title. Facts is facts ;)

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by kaorder1999
i sure as heck wouldnt brag about being the regular season conference champion and not the tournament winner but thats just me.

IMO being the regular season champ means more..The tourney is not always who is the best team, but which teams gets hot at the right moment

[kaorder1999]

that is what I was about to say. They cant win the title according to all Im reading but they can win a share of the title. I see that as a difference.

[kaorder1999]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
IMO being the regular season champ means more..The tourney is not always who is the best team, but which teams gets hot at the right moment

i guess that is why I dont like college basketball because its just the opposite in the NBA. Nobody cares who ends the regular season with the best record....its who wins the "tournament"!!

[Bulldog_12]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
Whatever works for ya...here's your piece of the pie.

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Three years after going 0-16. I am pretty amped about the thought of even sharing a conference title. I dare ANYBODY to say they wouldnt be if their team had the history A&M has in basketball.

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by kaorder1999
i guess that is why I dont like college basketball because its just the opposite in the NBA. Nobody cares who ends the regular season with the best record....its who wins the "tournament"!!

Yet....don't we all want to see a tournament in football? ;)

[Phil C]

:)

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
They can't win the title. They can win part of it..but they can't win all of it. Kansas is the only team that can still win the Big 12 title. Facts is facts ;)

Well, that's what I meant. We were on the same page, but what you were writing seemed Greek to me.

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by Bulldog_12
Three years after going 0-16. I am pretty amped about the thought of even sharing a conference title. I dare ANYBODY to say they wouldnt be if their team had the history A&M has in basketball.

You heard it directly from a Reed Rowdy ladies and gentlemen.

[kaorder1999]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
Well, that's what I meant. We were on the same page, but what you were writing seemed Greek to me.

now hug and say im sorry to one another. Do it!

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by kaorder1999
now hug and say im sorry to one another. Do it!
whoa...I got Gary to compromise...downlow history ;)

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
whoa...I got Gary to compromise...downlow history ;)

Don't get used to it.

[Phil C]

The Aggies would have won if Martellus had been playing.

[Funk-d-fied]

The Horns would have won by 20 if Brad "Boom Boom" Buckman would have been playing.

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by FormerBellvilleBrahma
The 1st time tu got beat, the 2nd time tu got lucky!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by Bulldog_12
Three years after going 0-16. I am pretty amped about the thought of even sharing a conference title. I dare ANYBODY to say they wouldnt be if their team had the history A&M has in basketball. Why do announcers keep saying that Gillespie is "rebuilding" the Aggie basketball team? He's doing something that's never been done with A&M before, correct? To rebuild, it needs to have been built in the first place. I'd like to see him get credit for "building" the program, not rebuilding.

[Phil C]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
Why do announcers keep saying that Gillespie is "rebuilding" the Aggie basketball team? He's doing something that's never been done with A&M before, correct? To rebuild, it needs to have been built in the first place. I'd like to see him get credit for "building" the program, not rebuilding.

Actually the Aggie basketball team had some good teams in the 20s under Coach D.X. Bible (yes the football coach).

[Bulldog_12]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
Why do announcers keep saying that Gillespie is "rebuilding" the Aggie basketball team? He's doing something that's never been done with A&M before, correct? To rebuild, it needs to have been built in the first place. I'd like to see him get credit for "building" the program, not rebuilding.

The years of Shelby Metcalf were great years in which the team went as far as the Sweet 16 and won several SWC Championships. The Ags used to be good so technically it is a rebuilding process.

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by Bulldog_12
The years of Shelby Metcalf were great years in which the team went as far as the Sweet 16 and won several SWC Championships. The Ags used to be good so technically it is a rebuilding process. Oh. Okay. I just like to see credit given where it's due.

Thanks for the info.