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Adidas410s
02-20-2007, 09:59 AM
Knight: New rule hurts college hoops' integrity
By Doug Tucker / Associated Press
February 20, 2007

The new rule that says players must be at least one year removed from high school before entering the NBA is ''the worst thing that's happened to college basketball since I've been coaching,'' says Texas Tech coach Bob Knight.

In the Big 12, it might be called the Kevin Durant Rule after the Longhorn freshman who has electrified the entire country and leads the conference in both scoring and rebounding. Instituted last year by the NBA, it means that super-talented players must wait at least a year rather than jumping into the pros right out of high school.




Many coaches have hailed this new approach as a blessing for the college game, because it lets NCAA schools showcase their abilities at least for one season. But Knight, the winningest college coach of all time, said he deplores it.

''Because now you can have a kid come to school for a year and play basketball and he doesn't even have to go to class,'' Knight said Monday during the Big 12 coaches call. ''He certainly doesn't have to go to class the second semester. I'm not exactly positive about the first semester. But he would not have to attend a single class the second semester to play through the whole second semester of basketball.

''That, I think, has a tremendous effect on the integrity of college sports.''

No player better exemplifies the new rule than Durant. Amazingly quick, agile and athletic for an 18-year-old, the 6-foot-9 Durant would have been a surefire NBA lottery pick any other year. But he had to find a college to play for. He chose Texas and perhaps will be remembered as the greatest to ever wear a Longhorns uniform, even though he seems likely to vault into the NBA after a sensational freshman season.

He has been named Big 12 player of the week three times and conference rookie of the week five times. He leads the league with 24.9 points and 11.4 rebounds per game and has a good chance at being national player of the year.

Knight said he would never have recruited Durant, although he doesn't blame Texas coach Rick Barnes for doing so. ''I don't fault those that have, because it's within the rules,'' Knight said. ''But the rules are just ridiculous, the way the thing is set up.''

''It's just a tremendous disservice, the way that it's structured, to the integrity of college sports.''

Barnes, who did not hear what Knight said earlier on the Big 12 coaches call, said he did not recruit Durant as a one-semester student.

''All we've ever said is if we recruit a player and that player said to us, 'I'm coming to school for one year and as soon as basketball season is over with I'm dropping out of school,' we would not recruit that player,'' he said.

''We cannot afford to jeopardize our program in that way. We want players that if they're going to come, we want them committed to a whole year academically. We tell them that's what's expected coming in.''

On the subject of officiating, Knight did not let a public reprimand by Big 12 commissioner Kevin Weiberg stop him from blasting game officials who work five or six games a week.

''To have some guy 54 or 55 years old referee six times a week is a real disservice to the kids who are playing,'' said Knight, who was reprimanded last week for criticizing officiating in one of his games.

''They have plenty of other places they can go. They can go to the NBA, they can go to the NAIA, they can go to junior college, they can go to high school. For years, the NCAA has hidden behind individual employment contractors. I think that's all (baloney).''

Knight said he would support an effort to have the Big 12 hire its own officials who do not travel the country working different games in different leagues several nights a week.

''But these guys are so greedy, they end up trying to work these six games a week. And they're not capable of doing that,'' he said. ''Check schedules and you'll rarely see where kids play three games a week. These kids are 19, 20 and 21 years old.''

JasperDog94
02-20-2007, 10:21 AM
I don't know that I disagree with anything he's saying. It makes sense.

themsu97
02-20-2007, 10:23 AM
why do most people hate Bobby Knight, because he is right 99% of the time, just not pc enough for people. ALso because not only does he win, he also graduates a high percentage of his players... Bobby Knight is a great guy...

Snyder_TigerFan
02-20-2007, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by themsu97
why do most people hate Bobby Knight, because he is right 99% of the time, just not pc enough for people. ALso because not only does he win, he also graduates a high percentage of his players... Bobby Knight is a great guy...

I'd play for him.

Gobbla2001
02-20-2007, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by themsu97
why do most people hate Bobby Knight, because he is right 99% of the time, just not pc enough for people. ALso because not only does he win, he also graduates a high percentage of his players... Bobby Knight is a great guy...

ding ding ding... we have a winner

Panther One
02-20-2007, 10:40 AM
I hate when players leave early, and all this does is put more guys in school that are sure to make an early exit. At least in football you have to stay in three years.

Can you image what the Texas basketball team would be like this year if their players stayed in school? And now after this season they'll lose Durant...it's a revolving door.

JasperDog94
02-20-2007, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by Panther One
I hate when players leave early, and all this does is put more guys in school that are sure to make an early exit. At least in football you have to stay in three years.

Can you image what the Texas basketball team would be like this year if their players stayed in school? And now after this season they'll lose Durant...it's a revolving door. True. There's no continuity. I wish there was a 3 year rule for basketball as well.

themsu97
02-20-2007, 11:54 AM
too many people cried that is was a racial thing... that is why the 3 year rule did not pass... football has it and basketball wanted it but could not since baseball does not have it and since baseball is a traditionally white sport, basketball could not have it since people have a right to work... it was a big deal a few years ago... part of the reason now why the NBA sucks

Gobbla2001
02-20-2007, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by themsu97
too many people cried that is was a racial thing...

:confused: :( :rolleyes:

JasperDog94
02-20-2007, 12:00 PM
Ahhhh. The ol' "race card".:speech:

District303aPastPlayer
02-20-2007, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
I'd play for him.

I'd rather play for him than any other coach... except for Coach K...

jason
02-20-2007, 01:10 PM
if you leave school early, you should have to pay back any/all scholarship money you received during your time at the university

JasperDog94
02-20-2007, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by jason
if you leave school early, you should have to pay back any/all scholarship money you received during your time at the university Not a bad idea.

ASUFrisbeeStud
02-20-2007, 01:52 PM
I'd be honored to have coach Knight choke or slap me.

themsu97
02-20-2007, 02:00 PM
do you know that during his practices, many of which that are closed... Coach K curses and makes contact with more players than Knight ever has... the truth about Knight is that he is the same person 24/7 which makes him genuine and unique... which is the same reason people did not like John Thompson... they treated everyone the same... not with white gloves like the media likes...

Panther One
02-20-2007, 02:02 PM
Could you imagine college baseball if they quit drafting high schoolers? I'd love to see baseball players have to go to school, but it won't happen. They've been drafting them too long to enforce any kind of change now. Plus, you put a limit like that on prep stars in the US, and you'd have to do something similar with the foreign ball players.

Haunta Yo
02-20-2007, 06:41 PM
I have NO PROBLEM with kids leaving early. Walk into any business school and offer the #1 ranked freshman business student an executive position in a fortune 500 company with a 7 figure salary for the next 4 years and see how many are coming back for their soph year...

As a general rule, college delays education 4-5 years until students graduate anyway.

As for porfessional teams, the NFL is the smartest of the "big three" since they let colleges pay for NFL farm systems.

Haunta Yo
02-20-2007, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by themsu97
do you know that during his practices, many of which that are closed... Coach K curses and makes contact with more players than Knight ever has... the truth about Knight is that he is the same person 24/7 which makes him genuine and unique... which is the same reason people did not like John Thompson... they treated everyone the same... not with white gloves like the media likes...

Didn't Coach K play for Coach Knight???? I love both of them - they're passionate and intense about what they do! They want their kids to be successful.

JasperDog94
02-21-2007, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Panther One
Could you imagine college baseball if they quit drafting high schoolers? I'd love to see baseball players have to go to school, but it won't happen. They've been drafting them too long to enforce any kind of change now. Plus, you put a limit like that on prep stars in the US, and you'd have to do something similar with the foreign ball players. Not the same thing. Baseball has a minor league system. Football and basketball do not.

Adidas410s
02-21-2007, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Haunta Yo
Didn't Coach K play for Coach Knight???? I love both of them - they're passionate and intense about what they do! They want their kids to be successful.

Yes...Coach K played under Knight while he coached at Army.