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football4life
02-13-2007, 06:52 PM
could any of you insiders hook us up with how it's shaping up? i had heard that the 'boys are projected with reggie nelson from florida.

Adidas410s
02-13-2007, 07:01 PM
yeah let me get it for ya...

Adidas410s
02-13-2007, 07:02 PM
Here's Kiper's Big Board:

Between now and the NFL combine (Feb. 21-27 in Indianapolis), there will be only slight changes to my Top 25 Big Board. The movement you see on the board is based on film evaluation from a player's career. Expect more movement and changes on the Big Board after the combine and individual workouts take place.


1. Calvin Johnson*, WR, Georgia Tech (6-4, 225) | previous: Same
He's not only a tremendous athlete, but he's a hard worker and very team oriented. Based on the needs of the Raiders and Lions, Johnson might not be the No. 1 overall pick, but he won't fall out of the top five.


2. Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin (6-6½, 313) | previous: Same
Huge, quick and athletic with a long wingspan.


3. Adrian Peterson*, RB, Oklahoma (6-1½, 218) | previous: Same
The most talented running back in the draft with an excellent burst to the outside for his size. The concern with Peterson is his durability.


4. Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame (6-3½, 225) | previous: Same
Poised, smart and at his best in pressure situations. Quinn did throw two interceptions in the Sugar Bowl after throwing just one INT in his previous eight games.


5. JaMarcus Russell*, QB, LSU (6-6, 260) | previous: Same
Big, strong signal caller with a powerful arm, and his decision-making improved significantly in 2006.


6. Jamaal Anderson*, DE, Arkansas (6-5, 270) | previous: Same
A gifted athlete who is coming off an exceptional 2006 season. Anderson is a complete player, equally solid against the run and as a pass rusher.


7. Alan Branch*, DT, Michigan (6-5½, 328) | previous: Same
Huge and athletic, Branch is a true space eater along the interior. Once his technique improves, watch out!


8. Ted Ginn Jr.*, WR, Ohio State (5-11, 175) | previous: Same
Takes a backseat to no one in the speed department, brings a big-play dimension to the wide receiver position and also the return game.


9. Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville (6-1½, 298) | previous: Same
A four-year veteran, and he is only 19 years old. Okoye is quick and explosive and goes all-out on every play. He is not only good at eating up space but also gets good penetration into the backfield.


10. Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson (6-4½, 260) | previous: Same
Flashes dominating ability with his athleticism and quickness. Adams led the Tigers with 10½ sacks and 15½ tackles for loss.


11. LaRon Landry, DB, LSU (6-1½, 205) | previous: Same
Four-year starter who has proven to be Mr. Reliable throughout his career.


12. Levi Brown, OT, Penn St. (6-4½, 325) | previous: 14
Steady and reliable at protecting the quarterback's blind side.


13. Charles Johnson*, DE, Georgia (6-2, 280) | previous: 15
Not only gifted from a pure talent standpoint, but he also has the work ethic to match. Johnson is active, alert and extremely productive.


14. Dwayne Jarrett*, WR, USC (6-4, 210) | previous: 13
Has the size and natural receiving skills to create mismatches against smaller cornerbacks. Jarrett also has better quickness out of his break than people give him credit for.


15. Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska (6-6, 298) | previous: 16
You don't see many defensive ends carrying 300 pounds who can move as well as Carriker.


16. Reggie Nelson*, S, Florida (5-11½ 198) | previous: 12
Outstanding player who can hit like a safety and excel in coverage like a cornerback. That unique combination makes him a highly regarded prospect.


17. Leon Hall, CB, Michigan (5-11, 193) | previous: Same
Tough customer who also shows very good anticipation and awareness in coverage.


18. Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU (6-2, 217) | previous: Same
Big and productive, Bowe runs excellent routes and has the toughness to catch the ball in traffic.


19. Lawrence Timmons*, LB, Florida St. (6-2¼, 233) | previous: 21
Moves right to the top of a very subpar linebacking group, particularly from the senior class. Timmons' production and consistency from game to game are what jumps out at you.


20. Robert Meachem*, WR, Tennessee (6-2½, 210) | previous: 19
Came through with a number of highlight-film plays in 2006. If he runs well at the combine, Meachem could elevate his status in the weeks leading up to the draft.


21. Sidney Rice*, WR, South Carolina (6-3, 200) | previous: 20
An angular wide-out with a nice burst out of his break and above-average hands. The key for Rice will be how well he runs at the combine workouts.


22. Aaron Ross, CB, Texas (6-0½, 196) | previous: 25
An instinctive tackler who has excellent ball skills. Ross led the Longhorns in 2006 with six interceptions and broke up 19 passes. He also finished third on the team in tackles with 80.


23. Anthony Spencer, DE, Purdue (6-2½, 261) | previous: 22
He became a much more effective pass rusher in 2006 for the Boilermakers. The key at the next level will be his athleticism and versatility, because I project he'll be an ideal outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense.


24. Tim Crowder, DE, Texas (6-3¼, 273) | previous: 23
Consistent and reliable in his career, but became more of a playmaker for the Longhorns in 2006.


25. Marshawn Lynch*, RB, California (5-11, 224) | previous: 24
Complete big back, right on the heels of Adrian Peterson when it comes to who will be the top RB in the draft.


*-- Underclassman


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Adidas410s
02-13-2007, 07:03 PM
Here is Todd McShay's 1st round draft:

The official underclassmen list is in, necessitating change to my initial mock draft. Surprisingly enough, there are 22 fewer underclassmen departures than last year's record-setting total of 62. Among the biggest surprises returning to school were quarterbacks Brian Brohm (Louisville) and Colt Brennan (Hawaii). Brohm has experienced some durability issues (thumb and shoulder) over the course of the past year and must prove to scouts as a senior that he can stay healthy for an entire season. Brennan was also wise to pull out of the draft in the eleventh hour, as he needs to improve his size and strength in order to solidify a first-round spot in the 2008 draft.

The 2007 class recently took another hit when Notre Dame WR Jeff Samardzija opted for baseball over football at the professional level, as the flame-throwing pitcher signed a five-year deal with the Chicago Cubs. Although Samardzija will be missed, his stock was dropping out of the first-round due to the influx of quality receivers from the underclassmen pool. In fact, those receivers -- Calvin Johnson, Ted Ginn Jr., Dwayne Jarrett, Robert Meachem and Sidney Rice -- make up just five of the 18 underclassmen prospects in my most recent mock draft. Here's a look:

x -- Still to be determined by coin flip
y -- Still to be determined by Super Bowl
+ -- Underclassman



1. Oakland Raiders (2-14)
Projected pick: +JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
Russell vs. Brady Quinn? Let the great debate begin. Most teams have Quinn ahead of Russell, but Raiders owner Al Davis could fall in love with Russell's size and strong arm.


2. Detroit (3-13)
Projected pick: Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
The Lions passed on Matt Leinart and Jay Cutler a year ago. It's hard to imagine them passing on another potential franchise quarterback with the second overall pick in this year's draft.


3t. x-Cleveland (4-12)
Projected pick: Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin
Russell or Quinn would be a possibility if available. Otherwise, it would become a tough decision between Thomas and Michigan DT Alan Branch. Thomas seems to make more sense, as he could be the piece that finally solidifies the Browns' offensive line.


3t. x-Tampa Bay (4-12)
Projected pick: +Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech
The Bucs have other more pressing needs, but coach Jon Gruden can't pass on the draft's most dynamic offensive weapon.


5. Arizona (5-11)
Projected pick: Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
As usual, the Cardinals are a prime candidate to trade down. If not, they should use their pick on the best available defensive playmaker. Adams, Branch and Jamaal Anderson could all be considered.


6. Washington (5-11)
Projected pick: +Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas
Anderson is a no-brainer for a Redskins defense that set a team record for the fewest sacks in a season (19) in 2006. Anderson is the complete package physically and should capitalize on 13.5 sacks as a junior in 2006.


7. Minnesota (6-10)
Projected pick: +Ted Ginn Jr., WR/RS, Ohio State
The Vikings need speed on the perimeter in order to open-up their offense. Ginn is a bit of a reach this early, but his world-class speed will be attractive to coach Brad Childress and his staff.


8. Houston (6-10)
Projected pick: +Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma
Drafting Peterson here would help to overshadow the Texans' colossal mistake of passing on Reggie Bush with the top overall pick last year.


9. Miami (6-10)
Projected pick: +Alan Branch, DT, Michigan
Branch is a good value pick here. At 6-foot-5, 330 pounds, he can play NT and/or DE in a 3-4 scheme, as well as DE in a 4-3 scheme. That type of versatility should be attractive to the Dolphins.


10. Atlanta (7-9)
Projected pick: Levi Brown, OT, Penn State
The Falcons could consider a safety (LaRon Landry or Reggie Nelson) with this pick, but Brown would help the transition to a bigger, more physical offensive line that coach Bobby Petrino is looking to make.


11. San Francisco (7-9)
Projected pick: +Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC
Jarrett is a dynamic playmaker with extraordinary hand-eye coordination. He needs to run well to sneak into the top-15. If so, Jarrett would be a fine young weapon for QB Alex Smith.


12. Buffalo (7-9)


Projected pick:: Leon Hall, CB, Michigan
The Bills will be in the market for a top-shelf cornerback if they lose free agent Nate Clements. Hall lacks elite speed, but he makes up for it with instincts, size and athleticism.



13. St. Louis (8-8)
Projected pick: Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville
The Rams are looking to improve their size and toughness up front defensively. Okoye is still a bit raw, but his playing weight is close to 300 pounds and he displays good upside as a 19-year-old prospect.


14. Carolina (8-8)
Projected pick: +Reggie Nelson, S, Florida
Nelson, a speedy center fielder with excellent ball skills, would provide the type of range and playmaking ability that the Panthers are missing at the safety position.


15. Pittsburgh (8-8)
Projected pick: LaRon Landry, S, LSU
Landry is a ball-hawking free safety who would instantly upgrade the athleticism of the Steelers' secondary.


16. Green Bay (8-8)
Projected pick: +Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal
Brett Favre could help maximize Lynch's explosiveness and versatility if they're working in the same backfield in 2007.


17. Jacksonville (8-8)
Projected pick: +Jarvis Moss, DE, Florida
The Jaguars need perimeter speed along their defensive line and Moss fits the description as one of the fastest defensive ends in the 2007 class.


18. Cincinnati (8-8)
Projected pick: +Charles Johnson, DE, Georgia
The Bengals would rather take a big, run-stuffing defensive tackle here, but there's no value to match the need. Instead, they could continue the trend of drafting Georgia defenders to upgrade that side of the ball.


19. Tennessee (8-8)
Projected pick: +Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee
QB Vince Young needs more weapons to work with on the perimeter. Meachem, a hometown product, is a fast-rising junior with impressive size and speed.


20. N.Y. Giants (8-8)
Projected pick: +Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh
The Giants must upgrade their cover-corner situation. Revis displays the athleticism and ball skills to fit their needs. He also brings value as a proven playmaker in the return game.


21. Denver (9-7)
Projected pick: Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno State
The tragic death of Darrent Williams will force the Broncos to reevaluate their personnel needs this offseason. McCauley is a boom-or-bust prospect who tanked as a senior but possesses rare physical tools to develop into a shutdown-corner.


22. Dallas (9-7)
Projected pick: Daymeion Hughes, CB, Cal
The Cowboys need a cover-corner who can hold up opposite Terence Newman, and Hughes could be the right man for the job. His eight interceptions as a senior are witness to Hughes' improved instincts and stellar ball skills.


23. Kansas City (9-7)
Projected pick: +Sidney Rice, WR, South Carolina
Rice's draft stock could fluctuate greatly depending on his postseason workouts. Assuming he grades out as a late first-round prospect, the Chiefs would welcome his pass-catching services on the perimeter.


24. New England (from Seattle)
Projected pick: Patrick Willis, ILB, Ole Miss
There's speculation that Tedy Bruschi will retire this offseason and Mike Vrabel is nearing the end, as well. With that in mind, the Patriots' top priority in this year's draft should be to get younger across the board at linebacker. Willis is instinctive, tough, quick and versatile enough to earn a starting job as a rookie.


25. N.Y. Jets (10-6)
Projected pick: Tank Tyler, DT, NC State
Tyler is a bit overrated, but at 323 pounds he could be the Jets' answer at nose tackle.


26. Philadelphia (10-6)
Projected pick: +Lawrence Timmons, OLB, Florida State
Timmons is a freakishly gifted athlete for his size. Although he is a bit inexperienced, Timmons' stock should skyrocket once he works out for NFL scouts at next month's combine.


27. New Orleans (10-6)
Projected pick: +Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas
The Saints need a youth movement at cornerback and Houston could emerge as a good value late in the first round. He's flying under the radar right now, but the more film I watch of him the more impressive his natural cover skills become. Houston did an excellent job of limiting top-flight WRs such as Jarrett, Meachem and LSU's Dwayne Bowe as a junior this past season.

28. New England (12-4)
Projected pick: Paul Posluszny, OLB, Penn State
Continuing with the linebacker theme, the Patriots seem like a perfect home for a versatile, hard-nosed and proven talent like Posluszny.

29. Baltimore (13-3)
Projected pick: Quentin Moses, DE/OLB, Georgia
The Ravens may chose not to re-sign free-agent OLB Adalius Thomas, so drafting a hybrid defensive end/outside linebacker like Moses makes a lot of sense. The Ravens could also be in the market for a cornerback or offensive tackle with this pick.

30. San Diego (14-2)
Projected pick: Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU
Safety is a possibility here, but the Chargers could get a better value in Bowe, who displays the size, speed and playmaking skills that QB Philip Rivers needs on the perimeter.

31. y-Indianapolis (12-4)
Projected pick: +Brandon Siler, ILB, Florida
Siler might be a reach in the first round, but he has the athleticism to emerge as a solid starting linebacker in the NFL. His quickness would fit well in the Colts' speed-driven defensive scheme.

32. y-Chicago (13-3)
Projected pick: +Greg Olsen, TE, Miami-FL
The Bears annually seem to ignore their need for a pass-catching tight end, but maybe this is the year they finally give in. Olsen's collegiate career was a roller coaster ride, but he possesses the size, athletic ability and hands to emerge as a consistent threat down the middle for QB Rex Grossman.

football4life
02-13-2007, 07:07 PM
thanks. i would love to see us pick up nelson, he would help out the pass defense, although it doesn't look like he'll drop. i like going for pass defense, considering that killed us.

Pmoney
02-13-2007, 07:44 PM
If I was a team, with a pick around 15-32 that needed a CB i would look at A. Ross just because not only is he a good CB he brings a great Return ability with him...