A question about racial names

[Txbroadcaster]

Seems everyone now is a something-American ex..NAtive American...Mexican-American..African-American

All because of decent...so I ask

If a white person is from Africa..can they claim to be Afircan American?

Just wondering

[Emerson1]

Yes

[carter08]

Burden of proof is on them though

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Seems everyone now is a something-American ex..NAtive American...Mexican-American..African-American

All because of decent...so I ask

If a white person is from Africa..can they claim to be Afircan American?

Just wondering

What I always wanted to no was does this mean you are half
from africa and half from america? Because you are not an american obviously.

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Seems everyone now is a something-American ex..NAtive American...Mexican-American..African-American

All because of decent...so I ask

If a white person is from Africa..can they claim to be Afircan American?

Just wondering

just a thought...but typically a white person from anywhere tends to refer to themselves by the country that they are from. I'm English, French, American, Italian, Australian, South African, etc. Continent-based titles are uncommon.

[carter08]

Originally posted by BILLYFRED0000
What I always wanted to no was does this mean you are half
from africa and half from america? Because you are not an american obviously.

No
Look at South Africa
There are many whites there who have been there for so many centuries that they can claim to be african

[injuredinmelee]

why would you want to be from both places. Why not just america or african?

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by injuredinmelee
why would you want to be from both places. Why not just america or african? because we're too politically correct here in the US.:(

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
because we're too politically correct here in the US.:(


Exactly...I just see a way for some to turn the tables for a bit of sarcastic irony

[injuredinmelee]

Dont monikers further seperate us from the people we want to treat us as equals?

[Gobbla2001]

I don't like those labels myself...

But Native-Americans I can understand...

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
because we're too politically correct here in the US.:(

WORD! :cool:

I hate labels.

[piratebg]

I've always just considered myself American, unless I'm applying for financial aid or some kind of grant. :)

[ASUFrisbeeStud]

I'm just a Texan.

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by ASUFrisbeeStud
I'm just a Texan.

Ditto... but we'll soon be Cali Yorkians... this place is turning into Cali and NY...

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Seems everyone now is a something-American ex..NAtive American...Mexican-American..African-American

All because of decent...so I ask

If a white person is from Africa..can they claim to be Afircan American?

Just wondering


Yeah, which is why I simply call black people what they are, black...

[ASUFrisbeeStud]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
Yeah, which is why I simply call black people what they are, black...

Why does any of it matter, we're all people. We live in a world that is truly connected globally. We are all humans. Screw black,white, red, brown, peach, purple or anything.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by ASUFrisbeeStud
Why does any of it matter, we're all people. We live in a world that is truly connected globally. We are all humans. Screw black,white, red, brown, peach, purple or anything. im green:D lol
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c268/FCarrejo/booger6.jpg

[sinton66]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
Ditto... but we'll soon be Cali Yorkians... this place is turning into Cali and NY...

BITE YOUR TONGUE!!!!:eek:

[olddawggreen]

I'm a German, English, Scottish, Irish American and darned proud of it:D

[olddawggreen]

Originally posted by carter08
No
Look at South Africa
There are many whites there who have been there for so many centuries that they can claim to be african

Most of the South Africans that I know refer to themselves as South Africans, not African Americans.

[Bullaholic]

Actually, I think we are all Garden-of-Eden-ers. :D

(Please no evolution vs creationism arguments---I was just trying to point out that we all probably came from the same origins whether you personally believe we evolved or were divinely created).

[Bandera YaYa]

Wouldn't it be nice if we thought of different skin colors, just like we think of different hair colors or eye colors.....so if there were two white skinned people, one black skinned person and one yellow skinned person in a row, we would look at them and simply think,.."there sits three dark haired people and one blonde"....wouldn't that really, really be awesome! Think about it. :)

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by Bandera YaYa
Wouldn't it be nice if we thought of different skin colors, just like we think of different hair colors or eye colors.....so if there were two white skinned people, one black skinned person and one yellow skinned person in a row, we would look at them and simply think,.."there sits three dark haired people and one blonde"....wouldn't that really, really be awesome! Think about it. :)

Yah, but you can joke about blondes being ditzy or something (sterotypes) and all will have a laugh... you can't joke about a SKIN color and get away with it...

folks in this country can't take jokes...

How's my favorite lady from Bandera?

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
you can't joke about a SKIN color and get away with it...



actually, at work we all joke about skin color to each other, we have a sense of humor there... I can't repeat on here any of the stuff that we say about each other's races out there to each other's faces... I'd get ROMMED... but we laugh our asses off...

[carter08]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
Yeah, which is why I simply call black people what they are, black...

White people are NOT white
Black people are NOT black

There is no way to define a persons color, because no one has the same shade of skin

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by carter08
White people are NOT white
Black people are NOT black

There is no way to define a persons color, because no one has the same shade of skin

Okay, smarty... why don't we start saying "that in the white area of skin color person makes too much money"???

[carter08]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
Okay, smarty... why don't we start saying "that in the white area of skin color person makes too much money"???

Caucasian
African- American
Hispanic

Done

[Bullaholic]

Originally posted by carter08
Caucasian
African- American
Hispanic

Done

I think by today's definition we refer to races to denote an individual's ethnicity.

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by carter08
Caucasian
African- American
Hispanic

Done

so caucasion means white

African-American means black

Hispanic means brown

caucasion - 3 syllables... takes too much breath to say, let's just say white

African-American - 6 syllables (seven if you say the "dash" in between)... takes too much breath to say, let's just say black

Hispanic - 3 syllables... takes too much breath to say, let's just say brown...

I'm just kidding BTW...

But while we're at it:

#1 Don't know any African-Americans who have ever been to Africa... wish I knew Dave Chappelle though...

#2 Most (not all) "Hispanic" people I know say "I'm not Hispanic, I'm Mexican!"

[JR2004]

Originally posted by ASUFrisbeeStud
I'm just a Texan.

Best country to be from!

[Gobbla2001]

Used to be anyway...

Any state where an illegal alien drug smuggler is given amnesty to testify against two AMERICAN BORDER GUARDS and have them sent to prison for 11 and 12 years isn't too great to me anymore...

I want Texas back...

[Bullaholic]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
so caucasion means white

African-American means black

Hispanic means brown

caucasion - 3 syllables... takes too much breath to say, let's just say white

African-American - 6 syllables (seven if you say the "dash" in between)... takes too much breath to say, let's just say black

Hispanic - 3 syllables... takes too much breath to say, let's just say brown...

I'm just kidding BTW...

But while we're at it:

#1 Don't know any African-Americans who have ever been to Africa... wish I knew Dave Chappelle though...

#2 Most (not all) "Hispanic" people I know say "I'm not Hispanic, I'm Mexican!"

So a sun-tanned Caucasian would be a Caucasian in the winter and a Hispanic in the summer? :D

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
So a sun-tanned Caucasian would be a Caucasian in the winter and a Hispanic in the summer? :D

NOOOO

Did you read?

He'd be a Mexican.................. - American

:p

[SpreadtheRed]

Native American = Indian
Mexican American = Mexican
African American = Black or another word (which they call themselves)
Caucasian = White or Gringo

Why does it have to be so technical these days?

[pirate4state]

I'm more of a tan color than brown. :D

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by SpreadtheRed
Native American = Indian
Mexican American = Mexican
African American = Black or another word (which they call themselves)
Caucasian = White or Gringo

Why does it have to be so technical these days?

Because races suck up to other races to get races on the sides of their races... or their businesses...

I say let's all make fun of Aliens...

[DU_stud04]

Originally posted by carter08
Caucasian
African- American
Hispanic

Done what small world you live in. there are many, many more than just those three. expand your horizon.

[DU_stud04]

Originally posted by SpreadtheRed
Native American = Indian
Mexican American = Mexican
African American = Black or another word (which they call themselves)
Caucasian = White or Gringo

Why does it have to be so technical these days?

native americans aren't indian.....or they would be native indians.....:rolleyes:

[carter08]

Originally posted by DU_stud04
what small world you live in. there are many, many more than just those three. expand your horizon.

i know
i'm lazy

[Hupernikomen]

I always thought the term african- american was meant to show heritage like english, irish, jamican etc. I suppose they use that term because sadly most blacks aren't entirely sure of what part of africa their descendants were from.

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
Used to be anyway...

Any state where an illegal alien drug smuggler is given amnesty to testify against two AMERICAN BORDER GUARDS and have them sent to prison for 11 and 12 years isn't too great to me anymore...

I want Texas back... :mad: :mad: :mad: Don't get me started on this.:mad: :mad: :mad:

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
:mad: :mad: :mad: Don't get me started on this.:mad: :mad: :mad:

hey, let's get a van... we'll call it the mystery machine... then let's grow our hair, take some guitars (if you don't how to play, just bring an empty coffee can and a wooden spoon for drums) and we'll sit Indian-Style (or is it Native-American style?) outside of the White House and sing in protest...

[pancho villa]

I'm a Lesbian American!

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
so caucasion means white

African-American means black

Hispanic means brown

caucasion - 3 syllables... takes too much breath to say, let's just say white

African-American - 6 syllables (seven if you say the "dash" in between)... takes too much breath to say, let's just say black

Hispanic - 3 syllables... takes too much breath to say, let's just say brown...

I'm just kidding BTW...

But while we're at it:

#1 Don't know any African-Americans who have ever been to Africa... wish I knew Dave Chappelle though...

#2 Most (not all) "Hispanic" people I know say "I'm not Hispanic, I'm Mexican!" I think Theodore Roosevelt said it best.

"There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities."

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
I think Theodore Roosevelt said it best.

"There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities."

That's a good one...

but I think I said it best...

"What in the hell is going on here?"

[Phil C]

BE POLITICALLY CORRECT!!

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[Gobbla2001]

Hippie protest Gobbla:

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5694/dfish3fun7rq.jpg

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by Phil C
BE POLITICALLY CORRECT!!

:mad: :mad: :mad: SHOW SOME COMPASSION FOR THOSE OF US THAT DON'T WANT TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

[Gobbla2001]

Show some compassion for guards Ramos and Compean... they're cooler 'n hell...

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
Show some compassion for guards Ramos and Compean... they're cooler 'n hell... This whole situation really stinks.

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
This whole situation really stinks.

To be honest, I believe a suspension or something would have been good...

They are required to report when firearms are discharged but they didn't because they believe they did not injure the runaway...

so yah, some kind of fine or suspension was in order...

But offering the drug-smuggler amnesty if he would testify against the two? That is complete bs...

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Seems everyone now is a something-American ex..NAtive American...Mexican-American..African-American

All because of decent...so I ask

If a white person is from Africa..can they claim to be Afircan American?

Just wondering
Only if they're of ShaKa-Zulu Decent;)

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
So a sun-tanned Caucasian would be a Caucasian in the winter and a Hispanic in the summer? :D Nope, he would be sun-burned in the summer and Pale in the Winter!

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
Yeah, which is why I simply call black people what they are, black... Hey! I resemble that remark!:cool:

[Fotbol]

How about this, If we cut each and everyone that represents a nationality and they bleed Red, we call them Human Beings. If we cut someone and the Bleed any other color we shoot the hell out of them all together and look for more Aliens. Bottom lines Folks, it's just like my Captain said on the USS La'Salle AGF-3, If the ship was hit by a Mine, and the ship was on fire, while sinking, you were trapped down below, and all of a sudden a hand reaches down thru the fire and smoke to rescue you, are you going to take time to look at what color the hand is before you grab it?
I seriously need each and every one of you who responded to this post to ask yourself the question above.

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by Fotbol
How about this, If we cut each and everyone that represents a nationality and they bleed Red, we call them Human Beings. If we cut someone and the Bleed any other color we shoot the hell out of them all together and look for more Aliens. Bottom lines Folks, it's just like my Captain said on the USS La'Salle AGF-3, If the ship was hit by a Mine, and the ship was on fire, while sinking, you were trapped down below, and all of a sudden a hand reaches down thru the fire and smoke to rescue you, are you going to take time to look at what color the hand is before you grab it?
I seriously need each and every one of you who responded to this post to ask yourself the question above.

I agree... great post...

[DU_stud04]

Originally posted by Fotbol
How about this, If we cut each and everyone that represents a nationality and they bleed Red, we call them Human Beings. If we cut someone and the Bleed any other color we shoot the hell out of them all together and look for more Aliens. Bottom lines Folks, it's just like my Captain said on the USS La'Salle AGF-3, If the ship was hit by a Mine, and the ship was on fire, while sinking, you were trapped down below, and all of a sudden a hand reaches down thru the fire and smoke to rescue you, are you going to take time to look at what color the hand is before you grab it?
I seriously need each and every one of you who responded to this post to ask yourself the question above. :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
so caucasion means white

African-American means black

Hispanic means brown

caucasion - 3 syllables... takes too much breath to say, let's just say white

African-American - 6 syllables (seven if you say the "dash" in between)... takes too much breath to say, let's just say black

Hispanic - 3 syllables... takes too much breath to say, let's just say brown...

I'm just kidding BTW...

But while we're at it:

#1 Don't know any African-Americans who have ever been to Africa... wish I knew Dave Chappelle though...

#2 Most (not all) "Hispanic" people I know say "I'm not Hispanic, I'm Mexican!" Well you know Cunbed10 and I have been to Djbouti(SP?) Africa

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Fotbol
How about this, If we cut each and everyone that represents a nationality and they bleed Red, we call them Human Beings. If we cut someone and the Bleed any other color we shoot the hell out of them all together and look for more Aliens. Bottom lines Folks, it's just like my Captain said on the USS La'Salle AGF-3, If the ship was hit by a Mine, and the ship was on fire, while sinking, you were trapped down below, and all of a sudden a hand reaches down thru the fire and smoke to rescue you, are you going to take time to look at what color the hand is before you grab it?
I seriously need each and every one of you who responded to this post to ask yourself the question above.

Great post!! :clap:

[Bullaholic]

Originally posted by Fotbol
How about this, If we cut each and everyone that represents a nationality and they bleed Red, we call them Human Beings. If we cut someone and the Bleed any other color we shoot the hell out of them all together and look for more Aliens. Bottom lines Folks, it's just like my Captain said on the USS La'Salle AGF-3, If the ship was hit by a Mine, and the ship was on fire, while sinking, you were trapped down below, and all of a sudden a hand reaches down thru the fire and smoke to rescue you, are you going to take time to look at what color the hand is before you grab it?
I seriously need each and every one of you who responded to this post to ask yourself the question above.

I agree also. Good post, Fotbol. I still stand by my opinion that any public discussion of race always seems to end in controversy sooner or later. I am glad that this thread has remained civil.

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by Fotbol
How about this, If we cut each and everyone that represents a nationality and they bleed Red, we call them Human Beings. If we cut someone and the Bleed any other color we shoot the hell out of them all together and look for more Aliens. Bottom lines Folks, it's just like my Captain said on the USS La'Salle AGF-3, If the ship was hit by a Mine, and the ship was on fire, while sinking, you were trapped down below, and all of a sudden a hand reaches down thru the fire and smoke to rescue you, are you going to take time to look at what color the hand is before you grab it?
I seriously need each and every one of you who responded to this post to ask yourself the question above. Nice.

At that point, I don't care if the hand only had three fingers and two thumbs, I'm grabbin' it!:)

[Blastoderm55]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001

Hispanic means brown


That's funny, because I have a lighter complexion than many white people. Guess by the same respect, there's Black folks who are lighter than some Hispanics. :p

Personally, I'm just an American. Well, first a Texan, then an Ameican. I was born here. My parents were born here. Their parents were born here. Their parents were born here. I think I have to go back like five generations to find relatives who were natively Mexican, likely when the Texas/Mexico border was much further north. Its kind of scary to think of how indigenous my family has been to the coastal bend area, and Mathis in particular. The families of both my mother and father have been in this area for the past three generations. Weird to think that we're still compelled to stay close.

My point?

Stop labeling yourself as Nationality-American unless you or at least your parents were born in said nation.

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by Blastoderm55
That's funny, because I have a lighter complexion than many white people. Guess by the same respect, there's Black folks who are lighter than some Hispanics. :p

Personally, I'm just an American. Well, first a Texan, then an Ameican. I was born here. My parents were born here. Their parents were born here. Their parents were born here. I think I have to go back like five generations to find relatives who were natively Mexican, likely when the Texas/Mexico border was much further north. Its kind of scary to think of how indigenous my family has been to the coastal bend area, and Mathis in particular. The families of both my mother and father have been in this area for the past three generations. Weird to think that we're still compelled to stay close.

My point?

Stop labeling yourself as Nationality-American unless you or at least your parents were born in said nation.

My mother her father, her mother, their mothers and fathers were born in Texas

My dad was born in North Dakota, his mother and father were born somewhere else in the Northeast, and their parents were from Germany...

But I'm Texan and so is Meatloaf :D

[Phil C]

Originally posted by Fotbol
How about this, If we cut each and everyone that represents a nationality and they bleed Red, we call them Human Beings. If we cut someone and the Bleed any other color we shoot the hell out of them all together and look for more Aliens. Bottom lines Folks, it's just like my Captain said on the USS La'Salle AGF-3, If the ship was hit by a Mine, and the ship was on fire, while sinking, you were trapped down below, and all of a sudden a hand reaches down thru the fire and smoke to rescue you, are you going to take time to look at what color the hand is before you grab it?
I seriously need each and every one of you who responded to this post to ask yourself the question above.

SHOW SOME COMPASSION!

THE ALIENS MIGHT BE FRIENDLY!

DON'T PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE!!

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[kaorder1999]

Where do whites get the name Caucasions? Not all whites originate from the Caucasus area of Russia....

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
I agree also. Good post, Fotbol. I still stand by my opinion that any public discussion of race always seems to end in controversy sooner or later. I am glad that this thread has remained civil.


Amen Bull, Amen!!! I'd hate to have people pissed off at me again for closing a thread. :devil:

Thanks to all who have "not gone off the deep edge" with this thread. :thumbsup: Keep up the great posting!! :clap:

[Fotbol]

Originally posted by Phil C
SHOW SOME COMPASSION!

THE ALIENS MIGHT BE FRIENDLY!

DON'T PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE!!

:mad: :mad: :mad:
Phil You are wild for that comment.

[mistanice]

Originally posted by Blastoderm55
That's funny, because I have a lighter complexion than many white people. Guess by the same respect, there's Black folks who are lighter than some Hispanics. :p

Personally, I'm just an American. Well, first a Texan, then an Ameican. I was born here. My parents were born here. Their parents were born here. Their parents were born here. I think I have to go back like five generations to find relatives who were natively Mexican, likely when the Texas/Mexico border was much further north. Its kind of scary to think of how indigenous my family has been to the coastal bend area, and Mathis in particular. The families of both my mother and father have been in this area for the past three generations. Weird to think that we're still compelled to stay close.

My point?

Stop labeling yourself as Nationality-American unless you or at least your parents were born in said nation.

Well well well, I guess since my parents were born in Mexico I can call myself Mexican-American! or 1st Gen. American!?!?

[Blastoderm55]

Originally posted by mistanice
Well well well, I guess since my parents were born in Mexico I can call myself Mexican-American! or 1st Gen. American!?!?

I think either would be sufficient.