Worst Starting Quarterback in Super Bowl History

[JR2004]

Who is the worst starting Quarterback in SB History?

Joe Kapp Minnesota Vikings SB IV
Vince Ferragamo Los Angeles Rams SB XIV
David Woodley Miami Dolphins SB XVII
Tony Eason New England Patriots SB XX
Jeff Hostetler New York Giants SB XXV
Stan Humphries San Diego Chargers SB XXIX
Rex Grossman Chicago Bears SB XLI
Other

[JJ7997]

Grossman.

[Emerson1]

Grossman will have 4 passes that result in touchdowns.

[neck_06]

Humphries was pretty bad. IMHO you can't be a bad QB and make it to the Super Bowl.

People need to get off Grossman's back, he has had some bad games, but he does what it takes to win. This was his first full season as a starter and he took a team to the Super Bowl.

[Pmoney]

Originally posted by neck_06
Humphries was pretty bad. IMHO you can't be a bad QB and make it to the Super Bowl.

People need to get off Grossman's back, he has had some bad games, but he does what it takes to win. This was his first full season as a starter and he took a team to the Super Bowl.
i agree

[JR2004]

I voted for Kapp myself...Could any of the folks who were actually alive at the time explain how in the world that guy started for a pro football team at all?

[burnet44]

dilfer
hands down

[crzyjournalist03]

Originally posted by Emerson1
Grossman will have 4 passes that result in touchdowns.

to which team??? :D :D


I voted for Rex, but I was disappointed that Trent Dilfer from XXXV wasn't an option!!!

[burnet44]

as I said lol

[JR2004]

Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
to which team??? :D :D


I voted for Rex, but I was disappointed that Trent Dilfer from XXXV wasn't an option!!!

I almost put him on there because he was a pretty mediocre quarterback during his career. He might be the worst starting QB to ever trip into winning a Super Bowl. That defense for the Ravens was probably the 2nd best I've seen in my life behind the 85 Bears.

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by burnet44
dilfer
hands down That was my first thought!

[tigerpride_08]

im to young to know any of these QB's besides Grossman...:)

[JJ7997]

At least Dilfer knew he sucked. Grossman just takes credit for his teams wins and gives his rediculous post game speaches about how he dont care how they win. I will get all kinds of hate for my dogging of the Bears, but I dont care. They aint good. To heck with the NFC, they should just liquidate the entire NFC !

[AggieJohn]

where's phil's input into this category

[88bobcats]

What about Fran Tarkington and Jim Kelly?

I'll grant you that these two quarterbacks were, in general, better than the others on the poll list; but they each had four chances and never won the big game. Of course, despite the final score, I thought the Bills beat the Giants that first time in '91.

Tarkington and Kelly obviously had the game skills, but, especially in the pros, the starting QB is a leader and sets a tone for the team; and their teams went 0-for-4.

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by tigerpride_08
im to young to know any of these QB's besides Grossman...:) me to but i was around to know dilfer....

its dilfer



everybody says how bad grossman sucks but look how young he is....he can only get better...and theyre already in a superbowl...so what does that mean for the future of chicago?

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by JJ7997
At least Dilfer knew he sucked. Grossman just takes credit for his teams wins and gives his rediculous post game speaches about how he dont care how they win. I will get all kinds of hate for my dogging of the Bears, but I dont care. They aint good. To heck with the NFC, they should just liquidate the entire NFC ! so what happens when the bears win it all...what does that say about the afc?

ill see u around feb. 4 to discuss this matter

[themsu97]

Tark was 0 for 3, if I am correct, Kapp was the starter in IV...
Dilfer for sure...
and how can you have Grossman on there when, like his counterpart, has not even played in the Super Bowl...
for all we know, though unlikely, Grossman can have a near perfect day and be MVP...

[Phil C]

I'm surprised no one mentioned Fran Tarkenton who led Minnesota to three super bowl loses.

Also Craig Morton wasn't mentioned. He threw the costly interception that lost Dallas their first super bowl game.
He also was the QB of Denver when they lost to Dallas in the Super Bowl.

Still I feel that those two above were very good quarterbacks.

[Phil C]

A good poll would be who was the worse qb on a winning super bowl team.

[burnet44]

1. dilfer
2. grossman if he wins
3. woodley
4. eason
5. craig morton killed the boys and the broncos

[Phil C]

I am surprised no one mentioned Johnny Unitas. In the two super bowls he played Baltimore couldn't beat the jets even though they put him in the game late hoping he would pull out a win.
Then against Dallas he was playing bad and Dallas was winning. Unfortunately he got hurt and Earl Morall went in and played good enough for the Colts to pull it off.

Still these games were past his prime and I consider him as one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.

[BILLYFRED0000]

Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
to which team??? :D :D


I voted for Rex, but I was disappointed that Trent Dilfer from XXXV wasn't an option!!!

That was my pick. Dilfer was not a quarterback he was just a ball
handler.

[piratebg]

Grossman takes it. I thought and still think the Bears were the most over-rated team to make the playoffs this year. The only good thing you can say about their team is their defense is good. That's it. Next year, Dallas will get a piece of them in the regular season. I'm looking forward to that game.

[STANG RED]

I believe some of the guys listed, are/were as good or better than Jim McMahon or Terry Bradshaw, but both of these guys had the luxury of being surrounded by some of the best teams of all time. Dilfer was pretty bad though.

[burnet44]

Originally posted by piratebg
Grossman takes it. I thought and still think the Bears were the most over-rated team to make the playoffs this year. The only good thing you can say about their team is their defense is good. That's it. Next year, Dallas will get a piece of them in the regular season. I'm looking forward to that game.

take the bears

Craig Morton is the reason Dallas lost SB V
granted Johnny U wasnt much better
but good enough to win

btw
Morton's pass bounced off of Dan Reeves to Colt LB Mike Curtis
Colts kick FG to win
Lilly throws helmet down the field

Morton was a killer

[piratebg]

If the Bears win, it will be by defense alone. Grossman will have a crappy night.

[VWG]

I took Ferragamo with the LA Rams. He sucked it up.

[Phil C]

Originally posted by burnet44
take the bears

Craig Morton is the reason Dallas lost SB V
granted Johnny U wasnt much better
but good enough to win

btw
Morton's pass bounced off of Dan Reeves to Colt LB Mike Curtis
Colts kick FG to win
Lilly throws helmet down the field

Morton was a killer

When Lilly threw his helmet someone joked that was the most accurate throw of a Dallas passer all day. :)

Actually it was Earl Morrall (spelling?) that came off the Baltimore bench when Unitas was hurt and led the Colts to victory.

[Jason1725]

I look for Manning to have a worse game than Grossman, the pressure of The Superbowl will be too much for him. It's Manning who has all of the pressure, he never made it before and everyone is already crowning him the greatest ever. He has more to lose than Grossman and all of the pressure will be on him.

[RMAC]

Originally posted by neck_06
Humphries was pretty bad. IMHO you can't be a bad QB and make it to the Super Bowl.

People need to get off Grossman's back, he has had some bad games, but he does what it takes to win. This was his first full season as a starter and he took a team to the Super Bowl.

I agree. The defense doesn't score all of their points.

[burnet44]

zero passer rating
people dont forget that

[neck_06]

Originally posted by burnet44
zero passer rating
people dont forget that

15-3...people don't seem to remember that.

[coach]

hes in tha damn super bowl thats better than 31 other qb's in tha leagur id rather have that 0 passer rating and a chance at a super bowl than a passer rating like romo did against tampa bay and he had a chance to hold a snap and he screwed up

[Macarthur]

Originally posted by Jason1725
I look for Manning to have a worse game than Grossman, the pressure of The Superbowl will be too much for him. It's Manning who has all of the pressure, he never made it before and everyone is already crowning him the greatest ever. He has more to lose than Grossman and all of the pressure will be on him.

Huh?

That doesn't make any sense. The pressure of the SB will be too much for Manning, but Grossman will be lose and pressure free? That is complete nonsense.

And, BTW, many that have been around the game a long time do say that Manning is the best to play the position.

[burnet44]

the pressure for manning was the Pats
they havnet been beat by the Bears in the playoffs
the SB will be an easier game for manning
he may not win
but the Pats have been a lot more pressure on manning than the bears could ever be

[Leopards,class of 75]

Originally posted by Pmoney
i agree A very good point! But he is lucky to have a great defense too.

[Txbroadcaster]

Out of ALL the STARTERS in the NFL this season to start at least 6 games..How many of them would u take Grossman over?

[burnet44]

NFL Passer Rating
Rank Player Team Yds Att Cmp TDs Ints Long Rating
1 Peyton Manning IND 4397 557 362 31 9 68 101.0
2 Damon Huard KC 1878 244 148 11 1 78 98.0
3 Drew Brees NO 4418 554 356 26 11 86 96.2
4 Donovan McNabb PHI 2647 316 180 18 6 87 95.5
5 Tony Romo DAL 2903 337 220 19 13 56 95.1
6 Carson Palmer CIN 4035 520 324 28 13 74 93.9
7 Marc Bulger STL 4301 588 370 24 8 67 92.9
8 Philip Rivers SD 3388 460 284 22 9 57 92.0
9 Tom Brady NE 3529 516 319 24 12 62 87.9
10 Mark Brunell WAS 1789 260 162 8 4 74 86.5
11 J.P. Losman BUF 3051 429 268 19 14 83 84.9
12 Chad Pennington NYJ 3352 485 313 17 16 71 82.6
13 Jake Delhomme CAR 2805 431 263 17 11 72 82.6
14 Steve McNair BAL 3050 468 295 16 12 87 82.5
15 David Carr HOU 2767 442 302 11 12 53 82.1
16 David Garrard JAC 1735 241 145 10 9 49 80.5
17 Jon Kitna DET 4208 596 372 21 22 60 79.9
18 Eli Manning NYG 3244 522 301 24 18 55 77.0
19 Matt Hasselbeck SEA 2442 371 210 18 15 72 76.0
20 Michael Vick ATL 2474 388 204 20 13 55 75.7
21 Ben Roethlisberger PIT 3513 469 280 18 23 67 75.4
22 Alex Smith SF 2890 442 257 16 16 75 74.8
23 Matt Leinart ARI 2547 377 214 11 12 58 74.0
24 Rex Grossman CHI 3193 480 262 23 20 62 73.9
25 Brett Favre GB 3885 613 343 18 18 82 72.7
26 Charlie Frye CLE 2454 392 252 10 17 75 72.2
27 Brad Johnson MIN 2750 439 270 9 15 46 72.0
28 Jake Plummer DEN 1994 317 175 11 13 83 68.8
29 Joey Harrington MIA 2236 388 223 12 15 48 68.2
30 Vince Young TEN 2199 357 184 12 13 53 66.7

rex is 24

id take garcia also

[burnet44]

CAT G Att Comp Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int 1st 1st % 20+ Sac Rate

VS AFC TEAMS 4 125 59 47.2 687 5.50 62 4 6 30 50.8 7 6 55.0


BEHIND BY 1-TO-8 POINTS 0 50 20 40.0 243 4.86 34 2 6 10 50.0 5 4 29.4


4TH QUARTER 0 73 35 47.9 372 5.10 57 2 5 18 51.4 4 5 43.9


FOURTH QUARTER WITHIN 7 0 56 25 44.6 273 4.88 57 2 5 13 52.0 2 5 34.3

VS. NEW ENGLAND 1 34 15 44.1 176 5.18 47 0 3 9 60.0 2 1 23.7

VS. ARIZONA 1 37 14 37.8 144 3.89 26 0 4 7 50.0 1 2 10.2

LOSSES 3 88 35 39.8 419 4.76 47 1 9 20 57.1 5 5 19.3

bad numbers

[Jason1725]

"Huh?

That doesn't make any sense. The pressure of the SB will be too much for Manning, but Grossman will be lose and pressure free? That is complete nonsense.

And, BTW, many that have been around the game a long time do say that Manning is the best to play the position."

It makes perfect sense because it is already being said Grossman will fail. So if he is supposed to fail he has no pressure, to hear the media tell it it's a given. So he has no pressure, he's supposed to fail. He has nothing to lose; Manning on the other hand is the greatest QB ever, God's gift to football if you will. Manning has to win to get the monkey off of his back, thus he has all of the pressure. It will get worse for him as the next two weeks go on. He is the greatest, so failure is not an option to him. He has to win and has all the pressure and it will just get worse the next two weeks. Strong defenses are Manning’s nemesis, it doesn't matter who it is The Patriots, Steelers, or perhaps the Bears. The pressure is all on Manning and it is going to get worse the next two weeks.

[themsu97]

can't use the arguement of the passer rating... that makes VInce the worst qb in the NFL and they cannot fly with these folks...

[burnet44]

vince aint playing this week
and he doesnt have the Bear D ethier

[themsu97]

of course he isn't... he is the worst qb in the league... your numbers and arguements say so...
what about Mark Rypien...

[rangerjim]

Burnett44 - Wanna crunch some more numbers? I'm a math moron. How about crunching Grossmans numbers over the team's 15 wins? And what about his 7 game ratings over 100?

I agree with jason 1725, more pressure on Manning to win than pressure for Grossman to lose. Many many comments on the fact that all Grossman does is handoff so he doesn't screw up. Realize he's not calling the plays. If the bears don't get behind big early, the run is a great weapon. Eats time, moves the chains, and opens up the pass game to where grossman doesn't have to thread the needle. For every bad pass that he's had, he's had plenty of good ones. The fact that the bears have won games when he has been bad (and he has been bad), speaks to a team that can overcome turnovers/adversity. As I've said before, that should worry the Colts.

If Grossman is average the Bears will win. If Grossman turns the ball over twice, the game will be close, anymore than that the Colts will send the Bears into hibernation.

Lifelong Bear fan who remebers all to well Peyton (Walter), Peyton, pass, punt. Long live defense and the rushing game.

[DU_stud04]

i wouldn't say he is bad, i would say he is very inconsistent, making me not really want him leading the offense. for a qb that had qb ratings over 100 7-8 times this past season isn't bad at all, but when you also have 5 games under 40%.... its just not acceptable. he is what he is, a very inconsistent, qb that has had other aspects of the game to help him and the bears go to the super bowl this year.

[themsu97]

well said d stud... he is what he is... really a rookie qb... this is his first full season...
what is funny is that most of you who bash Rex would be flying to defense of Vince right now if they were in the same boat... no offensive touchdowns against the jaguars yet they win... a punt return that beat the Texans the first time... looked absolutely horrible against the Pats...
he is still a rookie and only time will tell how good these guys will be...
bottom line, his team is in the Super Bowl, he is the qb so he led them there...
why does Peyton get credit for leading his team since it really was the defense finally stepping up and a consistent kicker that put them over the top...
speaking of the Colts... how do you think Edgarrin James feels right about now, counting all that money he has in the bank?