texans first round pick.......

[necks_c/09]

who should they take and why in this years nfl draft?????

give ur thoughts...

i say joe thomas.....OT from wisconsin.....

Their O-line needs help and Carr will prolly play better with more time in the pocket...

[Old Tiger]

Carr has had time in the pocket and he is not that good in it. He makes late dicisions and holds on to the ball too long. IMO that is why he gets sacked as much as he does.

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by Tiger WR
Carr has had time in the pocket and he is not that good in it. He makes late dicisions and holds on to the ball too long. IMO that is why he gets sacked as much as he does.

that is a good point but he will learn and grow.....he is becoming a better Qb and their running game will benefit from that pick too.....if they chose joe thomas from wisconsin...

also he did not get sacked as much this year so he is making progress.....i do not know the exact numbers but im pretty sure he got sacked less times...

[Old Tiger]

He's been in the league 5 years. He should be out of the learn and grow phase. He should be finding ways to improve his game now

[necks_c/09]

ur right....but the first 3 years he had NO O-line....this past year was the first he had a decent O-line.....and he made progress this year.....

[carter08]

Sage Rosenfels > David Carr

I say pick up Peterson if he's available
Otherwise a lineman

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by carter08
Sage Rosenfels > David Carr

I say pick up Peterson if he's available
Otherwise a lineman

sage rosenfels is worse than a hasbeen.....carr is their qb it will stay that way.....i would not take a Rb....dont they have davis coming back this year????.......im not sure if hell be ready to go....but if so why draft a Rb????


take a lineman and it will help every aspect of their game.....also that reciever from Georgia tech.....(johnson????)

hes pretty good......

[carter08]

Originally posted by necks_c/09
sage rosenfels is worse than a hasbeen.....carr is their qb it will stay that way.....i would not take a Rb....dont they have davis coming back this year????.......im not sure if hell be ready to go....but if so why draft a Rb????


take a lineman and it will help every aspect of their game.....also that reciever from Georgia tech.....(johnson????)

hes pretty good......

me and you must watch different Texans. Carr is a horrible decision maker. Sage has out performed Carr in every game Rosenfels has been in this year. Remember the first Titans game Carr and the Texans were down big. Sage came in and led them back to a 7 point loss. If Sage would have started Houston would have won.

Davis is always injured. It's not worth it. Although Dayne has done well recently

[necks_c/09]

okay carter but what do u think of the johnson kid from georgia tech???

[carter08]

Originally posted by necks_c/09
okay carter but what do u think of the johnson kid from georgia tech???

Calvin Johnson? Texans already have AJ and Moulds. Don't need another receiver. Work on the defensive secondary. They need help there.

[Maroon87]

Originally posted by necks_c/09
okay carter but what do u think of the johnson kid from georgia tech???


I think the Falcons should trade up to get him. They need a game changing reciever, plus the fact he's from GT will generate some excitement in the city that they sorely lack.

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by carter08
Calvin Johnson? Texans already have AJ and Moulds. Don't need another receiver. Work on the defensive secondary. They need help there.

agreed....they need help in the secondary...robinson cant do it all.....but moulds is getting old and he is not that goodnor does he have breakaway speed like johnson and will they be able to get a receiver of this caliber in the coming years when they do need one.....and johnson johnson duo would be vicious....

[carter08]

Originally posted by necks_c/09
agreed....they need help in the secondary...robinson cant do it all.....but moulds is getting old and he is not that goodnor does he have breakaway speed like johnson and will they be able to get a receiver of this caliber in the coming years when they do need one.....and johnson johnson duo would be vicious....

They can get Vincent Marshall in the later rounds

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by Maroon87
I think the Falcons should trade up to get him. They need a game changing reciever, plus the fact he's from GT will generate some excitement in the city that they sorely lack.

very good point....but i dont think they can move up b/c i thought they traded away their 1st round pick last year for John Abraham......to the jets.....am i wrong????

[carter08]

Originally posted by necks_c/09
very good point....but i dont think they can move up b/c i thought they traded away their 1st round pick last year for John Abraham......to the jets.....am i wrong????

You are wrong
Falcons have a first round pick

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by carter08
You are wrong
Falcons have a first round pick


well what did they trade away for abraham.....or did they get one in the 3 way trade between them and denver and washington....

but i dont think so....thats when they got ashlie lelie....denver got a draft pick outta that......

[carter08]

Sam Baker, OT, Southern Cal

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by carter08
Sam Baker, OT, Southern Cal

joe thomas is the highest rated O-lineman

[carter08]

Originally posted by necks_c/09
joe thomas is the highest rated O-lineman

The Texans will have 5 or 6 wins. Thomas will be gone when Houston drafts

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by carter08
The Texans will have 5 or 6 wins. Thomas will be gone when Houston drafts
he may very well be gone and i have not thought about that....

they will likely end up drafting 5th or 6th.....who will draft in front of them........lions.....raiders.....tampa......clevl and......who else???

[carter08]

Lions, Raiders, Cardinals, Bucs, Packers, Redskins

Cardinals will take Thomas

[necks_c/09]

packers will not draft ahead of the texans.....cardinals will take thomas if they draft ahead.....i think the packers are 7-8....im not sure though...what are the cardinals.....?

[carter08]

Arizona 5-10
Vikings are 6-9. A loss puts them 6-10. Texans win they are 6-10. Not sure who would draft where then

[necks_c/09]

depending on what happens today cleveland will draft ahed or behind them as well.....and after last night's loss what did washington finish at???

6-10
5-11
7-9???

[carter08]

Redskins finish 5-11

[necks_c/09]

as of now


Round One
1. Detroit (2-13)
2. Oakland (2-13)
3. Cleveland (4-12)
4. Tampa Bay (4-11)
5. Washington (5-11)
6. Arizona (5-10)
7. Houston (6-10)
8. Minnesota (6-9)
9. San Francisco (6-9)
10. Miami (6-9)
11. St. Louis (7-8)
12. Atlanta (7-8)
13. Carolina (7-8)
14. Green Bay (7-8)
15. Pittsburgh (7-8)
16. NY Giants (7-8)
17. Buffalo (7-8)
18. New England (from Seattle) (8-7)
19. Kansas City (8-7)
20. Jacksonville (8-7)
21. Cincinnati (8-7)
22. Tennessee (8-7)
23. Dallas (9-6)
24. NY Jets (9-6)
25. Philadelphia (9-6)
26. Denver (9-6)
27. New Orleans (10-5)
28. New England (11-4)
29. Indianapolis (11-4)
30. Baltimore (12-3)
31. Chicago (13-2)
32. San Diego (13-2)

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by necks_c/09
as of now


Round One
1. Detroit (2-13)
2. Oakland (2-13)
3. Cleveland (4-11)
4. Tampa Bay (4-11)
5. Washington (5-11)
6. Arizona (5-10)
7. Houston (5-10)
8. Minnesota (6-9)
9. San Francisco (6-9)
10. Miami (6-9)
11. St. Louis (7-8)
12. Atlanta (7-8)
13. Carolina (7-8)
14. Green Bay (7-8)
15. Pittsburgh (7-8)
16. NY Giants (7-8)
17. Buffalo (7-8)
18. New England (from Seattle) (8-7)
19. Kansas City (8-7)
20. Jacksonville (8-7)
21. Cincinnati (8-7)
22. Tennessee (8-7)
23. Dallas (9-6)
24. NY Jets (9-6)
25. Philadelphia (9-6)
26. Denver (9-6)
27. New Orleans (10-5)
28. New England (11-4)
29. Indianapolis (11-4)
30. Baltimore (12-3)
31. Chicago (13-2)
32. San Diego (13-2)

1. Detroit-Brady Quinn-QB
2. Oakland- So many problems
3. Cleveland- "..."
4. Tampa Bay-calvin johnson
5. Washington-Gaines Adams-DE
6. Arizona-joe thomas
7. Houston-

[necks_c/09]

oakland and clevland will both take offensive players or they should so where does that leave us??

[Old Tiger]

Detroit will take another WR, lol

[necks_c/09]

knowing millen he prolly will

[necks_c/09]

after further review....i believe the raiders will take peterson and the browns....will take brohm/troy smith/ jamarcus russell.......one of those 3 maybe.....

[necks_c/09]

now im off to watch the texans..........

[pantherpop]

If Troy Smith is available they should take him. Maybe get Plummer in the offseason to let Smith learn the Pro game. For sure get rid of David Carr no matter what.

[TexanAlum_06]

You can bet Cleveland will take Smith is he is available. it will generate some excitement for that team since he is from OSU. If the Texans go for a DB do you think they might take Aaron Ross from UT?

[necks_c/09]

they will not get rid of carr under any circumstances unless he asks to be traded....and y would plummer want to come to the texans when carr and troy smith would be here.....that makes no sense.....

also there are better Db's than aaron ross in the draft....he could be a second round pick....he is not good enough to go in the top10....prolly a late 1st or second round pick.....

[TexanAlum_06]

Yeah thats true. They say he could be a 1st rounder but yet they said that about guys like cory redding and jonathon scott and rod wright and they all went in the late rounds.

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by TexanAlum_06
You can bet Cleveland will take Smith is he is available. it will generate some excitement for that team since he is from OSU.

the same could have been said about young and us last year but we passed on him.......

[TexanAlum_06]

Good point, I didnt think about that. But then again I think Cleveland is in more desperate need of a QB then Houston was last year. or more then houston "THOUGHT" they were. who is starting for cleveland today? Ken Dorsey? That aint gonna cut it. lol

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by TexanAlum_06
Good point, I didnt think about that. But then again I think Cleveland is in more desperate need of a QB then Houston was last year. or more then houston "THOUGHT" they were. who is starting for cleveland today? Ken Dorsey? That aint gonna cut it. lol

good point...they are desperate....anyways its charlie frye starting today not that it makes any differnce....

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by TexanAlum_06
Yeah thats true. They say he could be a 1st rounder but yet they said that about guys like cory redding and jonathon scott and rod wright and they all went in the late rounds.

lets put it this way...if he were to slip into the 3rd round he would be a steal......

also i would never take a skill position in the later rounds b/c they usually tend to rot on the bench for about 4-5 years until they are traded....

[necks_c/09]

the highest rated Db in this years draft is leon hall from michigan.....not aaron ross....according to some anyway...

[TexanAlum_06]

Originally posted by necks_c/09
lets put it this way...if he were to slip into the 3rd round he would be a steal......

also i would never take a skill position in the later rounds b/c they usually tend to rot on the bench for about 4-5 years until they are traded.... Yeah he would. it happens to a lot of Texas players. prime example=NATHAN VASHER.... and one texas DB that hasnt been mentioned in a while is Quentin Jammer? is he still with the Chargers?

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by TexanAlum_06
Yeah he would. it happens to a lot of Texas players. prime example=NATHAN VASHER.... and one texas DB that hasnt been mentioned in a while is Quentin Jammer? is he still with the Chargers?

yes he is still w/ the chargers and he is their ace cornerback....w/ florence and cromartie fighting for the #2 job

[TexanAlum_06]

Yeah Leon Hall. I forgot about him.

[necks_c/09]

yeah the texans won......!!!

[necks_c/09]

yall are no fun...im guessin yall are all consumed in the whoopin the cryboys got put on em by detroit....hehe:doh:

[Bull Butter]

Originally posted by necks_c/09
yall are no fun...im guessin yall are all consumed in the whoopin the cryboys got put on em by detroit....hehe:doh:

The Cowboys season is going to last exactly one week longer than the Texans did.

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by Bull Butter
The Cowboys season is going to last exactly one week longer than the Texans did.

thats okay...the cowboys have more talent and they dont have a rookie coach....we will continue to get better.....oh and we didnt get whipped by the leagues second worse team....we actually won today....i think ur just a sore loser....


im not mad at all and i congratulate the boys on making the post season but u better believe me that im gonna rub this loss into the ground....

[Bull Butter]

Originally posted by necks_c/09
thats okay...the cowboys have more talent and they dont have a rookie coach....we will continue to get better.....oh and we didnt get whipped by the leagues second worse team....we actually won today....i think ur just a sore loser....


im not mad at all and i congratulate the boys on making the post season but u better believe me that im gonna rub this loss into the ground....

I'm not a Cowboys fan so you can get off the "sore loser" smack.

[kaorder1999]

yeah id MUCH rather be on a 6-10 team than a 9-7 playoff team!! You are right bro!

[necks_c/09]

Originally posted by kaorder1999
yeah id MUCH rather be on a 6-10 team than a 9-7 playoff team!! You are right bro! a team trying to get better or a team on the brink of crashing into the ground???

[kaorder1999]

im sorry...you are right. The cowboys dont want to get any better. They like to lose! Parcells likes to lose ;)

[necks_c/09]

its about time.....im not mad at u or the cowboy fans or ne thing.....i actuslly like the boys just not as much as the texans......see i just dont like TO

im tellin yall to get rid of him....Dallas is starting to feel the TO effect...