Best teams NOT to win a state title in the last 10 years [Archive]

FormerBellvilleBrahma

11-06-2006, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by bandera7
well I wont surprise you then when I say definitely Burnet...they had some incredible talent, just couldnt get it done in the championship...McGee and Shipley on the same team, they shouldve won twice in a row...So Burnet definitely gets my vote

Bellville the same year, (differant division) Buenger and Grebe.

RMAC

11-06-2006, 10:44 PM

'01 Everman.

bandera7

11-06-2006, 10:45 PM

Cuero last year maybe...had a loss to Hutto that nobody saw coming, probably not even the Hutto fans

kaorder1999

11-06-2006, 10:52 PM

Forney the year they lost in the State Championship and the year after when they lost to Everman in Round 2. That same year Commerce won the Div 2 Title after bein the runnerup in Forney's district

wooden bear

11-06-2006, 10:53 PM

Wimberly in 04. That team was just as good if not better than there State Championship team in 05.

wedo

11-06-2006, 10:53 PM

Wharton 2003 had 5 D1 players on it

Kellen Heard- A&M
Terrence Ward -A&M
Ray Hudson- BYU
Darren Edwards- about to transfer to A&M or Texas
Pierre Florinoure (sp)- A&M

wooden bear

11-06-2006, 10:54 PM

If it wasnt for a fumble from late in the game they win back to back.

bandera7

11-06-2006, 10:56 PM

I dont agree with Wimberley 04. We played them and had a 3-0 lead at end of the 3rd. Our defense fell apart and we lost 28-3. But any team that gets shut out for 3 quarters, cant be that good. Their 05 team was twice as good as 04

Emerson1

11-06-2006, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by RMAC
'01 Everman.
Everman won it in '01

wooden bear

11-06-2006, 10:57 PM

I seriously disagree with that. I know firsthand how good they are and they were the real deal I promise you.

pirate4state

11-06-2006, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by RMAC
'01 Everman. He said NOT to win, they won in '01

bandera7

11-06-2006, 10:59 PM

Im not so sure. We play Wimberley every year, and their 05 was by far the best team they have had, 04 couldnt hold a flame to the 05. maybe it is just a testament to how good their 05 team was.

wooden bear

11-06-2006, 11:02 PM

You might be right but as soon as we beat them in 04 we said right after the game that that team was going to win it all next year.

Stownhorse

11-06-2006, 11:02 PM

'04 Sweetwater

wooden bear

11-06-2006, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by Stownhorse
'04 Sweetwater

That might be the funniest thing ever said.

Stownhorse

11-06-2006, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by wooden bear
That might be the funniest thing ever said.

Im not laughing.

maestro

11-06-2006, 11:13 PM

burnet.....

awesome bunch.....

BreckTxLonghorn

11-06-2006, 11:40 PM

*HOMER*

1998 Breckenridge. 3A player of the year, plus a bunch of juniors who were 3 yr lettermen. They should've plowed through the playoffs.

Then they got cocky before the Monahans game. Still gets me sick to my stomach.

formermbcouns

11-06-2006, 11:41 PM

Marlin 1999

g$$

11-06-2006, 11:59 PM

I am a homer at times admittedly, but I have to mention Sweeny '00 & '01. Team was stacked & let's just say they had coaching issues (no longer in Sweeny). Lost 3 rounds deep & should have contended for a title (beaten by Cameron Yoe w/ Billy Pittman & Bridge City). Give those teams credit too.

Johnnie Lee Higgins, Jr. WR/DB (UTEP)
Thomas Wright RB/DB (Oklahoma State)
Jonathan Fields WR/DB (Northwestern)
Stevie Smith RB/DB (Sam Houston)
Troy Thompson TE/DE (Blinn JC, knee injury before D1)
Jason Baca QB (SW Texas State baseball)
Virgil Crowson LB (Texas Lutheran)
Courtenay Sanders DB (Ranger JC)
& others (Will Burns, Matt Burger, Jason Fields, Michael Williams...)

Team had size & speed. Shame they did not make a deeper run.

halfnhalf

11-07-2006, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by kaorder1999
Forney the year they lost in the State Championship and the year after when they lost to Everman in Round 2. That same year Commerce won the Div 2 Title after bein the runnerup in Forney's district
Yeah they were good. That DaBryan Blanton was FAST. LaGrange scored and the very next play he made a one handed grab and took it 50 yards or so.

westtxfballfan

11-07-2006, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by BreckTxLonghorn
*HOMER*

1998 Breckenridge. 3A player of the year, plus a bunch of juniors who were 3 yr lettermen. They should've plowed through the playoffs.

Then they got cocky before the Monahans game. Still gets me sick to my stomach.

I watched that choke in Lubbock. Monahans started the season 2-6, looked awful, switched QBs and won the last two reg games to back into the playoffs at 4-6. Then won a couple of games in the playoffs and drew #1 (12-0) Breck. Loboes were 6-6, 24 point dogs. Won 29-0. One website ranked it the biggest upset of the year, all classes. Monahans lost to eventual state champ Aledo the next week in the semis, 21-7, throwing an INT inside the 5 going in and fumbling at the 1 going in another time.

un b weavable

11-07-2006, 12:19 AM

'04 Cuero :D

The '04 Wimberley team was damn good. They would have had a great shot at winning it all had we not caught a break with that fumble.

'05 Wimberley doesn't really need to be discussed in this thread since they did win it all.

'03 Burnet had an awesome team. I saw them dominate the wharton team with 5 D1 players the week after wharton beat us. Maybe it's a good thing we didnt win that game and end up playing them. :thinking:

stxfootballfan

11-07-2006, 12:38 AM

'98 Aransas Pass

Old Tiger

11-07-2006, 12:49 AM

Burnet of Forney

RMAC

11-07-2006, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by Emerson1
Everman won it in '01

I meant '00. That was Adidas' sr. year in '01 and Wylie beat Everman his sr. season.

big daddy russ

11-07-2006, 01:11 AM

This is how I see it. I didn't see every team play, so I'm just throwing out the teams I did see. Also, it's been years since I've seen some of these teams, so take this with a grain of salt. I haven't seen nearly as much 3A ball the last three years as I did from '99-'02.

1. Sinton '01
2. Forney '01 (Would've been a great game with Sinton, but I just felt Sinton had more weapons than Forney. Could beat them in more ways, but would've been a great game.)
3. Burnet '02
4. Cuero '05
5. Atlanta '99
6. Sealy '99 (Absolutely dominated a top ten-caliber Aransas Pass squad.)
7a. Burnet '03
7b. Forney '00
8. Cuero '98
9. Jasper '03 (That's right, I thought the '03 team that went to the semis was better than the star-laden '04 team.)
10. Marlin '00
11. LaGrange '01
12. Jasper '04
13. Sweeny '98 (I know they lost to Aransas Pass, but I don't see how. One hell of a ballclub that just slipped up before their time. I remember they had a loss or two, I just don't know who or how they lost.)
14. Aransas Pass '98 (Not as talented as some of these teams, but fast as hell and just found ways to win. One of the fastest teams on this list.)
15. Bellville '01

I'll still maintain that 2001 was the best collection of top-tier teams I've seen, but you can argue either way. Sinton, Forney, Everman, LaGrange, and Commerce would've won on any 'normal' year.

I never saw Decatur in '04, but they would've probably made the top ten from everything I've heard.

Old Tiger

11-07-2006, 01:14 AM

BDR, IMO the '02 Burnet team was better than the '03. That RB for the '02 team was a beast!

big daddy russ

11-07-2006, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by Tiger WR
BDR, IMO the '02 Burnet team was better than the '03. That RB for the '02 team was a beast!
You're right about the RB and could be right about the '02 team being better, but when I saw the '03 squad the defense looked a little crisper and McGee and Shipley looked more in sync than the year before. Saw them against Sinton in '02 and against Jasper in '03, and as good as they were against Sinton they looked even better against Jasper.

Old Tiger

11-07-2006, 01:23 AM

I remember watching that little 5'10 RB roll up Red or one of those huge guys from Jasper! Was '03 the year Ship had around 200 yards receiving the first half?

I would put the '05 Tatum Eagles on there BDR in place of the '05 Cuero team.

BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END

11-07-2006, 01:31 AM

I would have to say the 1998 Rockdale Tigers. Lost to eventual champions Newton, but also hung up the most points on Newton the entire season. The game was closer than the score, and the team was 9-3 on the year.

big daddy russ

11-07-2006, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by Tiger WR
I remember watching that little 5'10 RB roll up Red or one of those huge guys from Jasper! Was '03 the year Ship had around 200 yards receiving the first half?

I would put the '05 Tatum Eagles on there BDR in place of the '05 Cuero team.
I think that was the year... that was one of the years I saw them at Kyle.

I may actually have seen them twice at Kyle, but I can't remember for the life me. I know I saw them tear up Jasper the first year, and I want to say I saw them play each other again the next year, but looking back I may be mixing up '02, '03, and '04. I moved up to CS in 2003 and thought that's when I saw that great Burnet team, but looking back I may have made a road trip up here to visit my brother and some friends the year before.

The year they pasted Jasper at Kyle was the year I was thinking of that Burnet was stout. One of the years, Jasper hung in there, but that was the year Burnet didn't seem like they were as good.

As far as the Tatum squad, I never saw them. I know last year's Cuero team was amazing (saw them play twice), and I couldn't imagine a better team last year. That's why I was so surprised when they lost to Hutto. They probably had between six and ten division 1 players playing on last year's team, including underclassmen.

JR2004

11-07-2006, 02:15 AM

Patrick Miller was a pretty good RB for Burnet and he made Jasper's defense look silly in that game in 2002. Even though they made it back to the title game in 2003, they just weren't the same without him out there.

Hansum Stranger

11-07-2006, 07:00 AM

Forney 03

wimbo_pro

11-07-2006, 08:19 AM

Wooden Bear...I agree with you!! We were devestated after losing to you guys in 04...we felt we had it, but as usual, Cuero found a way to win in the end.

DaHop72

11-07-2006, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by Stownhorse
'04 Sweetwater :thinking: :thinking: Now who did they lose to that year.:D

Phil C

11-07-2006, 09:15 AM

I say Sinton in 2001. The Year (2001) Sinton lost to Everman in the State Championship game. We were a small Division 1 School while Everman was just barely in 3A by one student so we potentially lost to a 4A school. Forney was great that year too and were barely in 3A. Both Forney and Everman are in 4A now.

Pudlugger

11-07-2006, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by big daddy russ
This is how I see it. I didn't see every team play, so I'm just throwing out the teams I did see. Also, it's been years since I've seen some of these teams, so take this with a grain of salt. I haven't seen nearly as much 3A ball the last three years as I did from '99-'02.

1. Sinton '01
2. Forney '01 (Would've been a great game with Sinton, but I just felt Sinton had more weapons than Forney. Could beat them in more ways, but would've been a great game.)
3. Burnet '03
4. Cuero '05
5. Atlanta '99
6. Sealy '99 (Absolutely dominated a top ten-caliber Aransas Pass squad.)
7a. Burnet '02
7b. Forney '00
8. Cuero '98
9. Jasper '03 (That's right, I thought the '03 team that went to the semis was better than the star-laden '04 team.)
10. Marlin '00
11. LaGrange '01
12. Jasper '04
13. Sweeny '98 (I know they lost to Aransas Pass, but I don't see how. One hell of a ballclub that just slipped up before their time. I remember they had a loss or two, I just don't know who or how they lost.)
14. Aransas Pass '98 (Not as talented as some of these teams, but fast as hell and just found ways to win. One of the fastest teams on this list.)
15. Bellville '01

I'll still maintain that 2001 was the best collection of top-tier teams I've seen, but you can argue either way. Sinton, Forney, Everman, LaGrange, and Commerce would've won on any 'normal' year.

I never saw Decatur in '04, but they would've probably made the top ten from everything I've heard.

Actually in '01 Commerce did win state beating La Grange 14-11 in the final. Bellville should be mentioned in this group though as they beat La Grange to win district that same year and were loaded.

kaorder1999

11-07-2006, 09:19 AM

raider red 2000

11-07-2006, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by wedo
Wharton 2003 had 5 D1 players on it

Kellen Heard- A&M
Terrence Ward -A&M
Ray Hudson- BYU
Darren Edwards- about to transfer to A&M or Texas
Pierre Florinoure (sp)- A&M

(only 1 of those players was on Wharton's state runner-up track team. )

this team lost to a very good Burnet team (shipley and McGee)

Scored more points on burnet than anyone else that year.

also- was the first team to intercept a Mcgee pass his SR year (2 picks)

wedo

11-07-2006, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by raider red 2000
(only 1 of those players was on Wharton's state runner-up track team. )

this team lost to a very good Burnet team (shipley and McGee)

Scored more points on burnet than anyone else that year.

also- was the first team to intercept a Mcgee pass his SR year (2 picks)

We had three picks of McGee in that game. doggins, Tink, Felipe all had picks.

raider red 2000

11-07-2006, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by wedo
We had three picks of McGee in that game. doggins, Tink, Felipe all had picks.

my bad :)

and i think that Demestrice Doggins might have been the best athlete on the team.

big daddy russ

11-07-2006, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by Pudlugger
Actually in '01 Commerce did win state beating La Grange 14-11 in the final. Bellville should be mentioned in this group though as they beat La Grange to win district that same year and were loaded.
I know. So did Everman.

And I didn't forget Bellville... they're number 15 on my list. They weren't quite as loaded as Sinton but they were so friggin' quick. They gave Sinton a hell of a game and were about as scrappy as you could get. One of my buddies (who's actually on the Downlow) was on that '01 team.

big daddy russ

11-07-2006, 11:52 AM

Oh, and by the way everyone, I went back and looked and it was '02 Burnet that was the better team, IMO.

halfnhalf

11-07-2006, 11:55 AM

What about '03 Marlin. Eventually got STOMPED by Atlanta in the state game. But they had some monsters on their team. When LaGrange played them in round three, we hung with them until the very end, and that was an accomplishment all by itself. Then they went on to beat a very good Bellville team in my mind was one of the greatest 3a football games ever(right behind LaGrange vs. Forney in 2000:D ). But on all seriousness that Marlin team was stacked. Best team I ever lined up against.

KL3

11-07-2006, 12:17 PM

I'd have to say that overall the '03 Bellville team was better than the '02 Bellville team. '02 had a better defense, with like 8 of the 11 going on to play college ball, but the '03 team had a much better offense but not quite a strong of defense as the '02 team had.

The '03 offense had QB Buenger, WR/K Goeke, RB Runnels who is all-conference at SFA, RB Bryant, and WR Sanders who is tearing it up at SMU as a freshman. QB Beunger threw for 2,000 and 30 TD's and Runnels was a 1,500 yard rusher and Goeke who could kick 50 yard FG's.

The team was 13-1 with its lone loss coming to Marlin the Reg. Champ. game and had destroyed its first 3 playoff opponents. Beat Giddings in Round 1 44-7 and was up 41-0 at halftime. Beat Huffman 47-14 and China Spring 56-19 in the 3rd round. Lost to Marlin at about the Marlin 35 yard line on 4th down.

Stownhorse

11-07-2006, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by DaHop72
:thinking: :thinking: Now who did they lose to that year.:D

That was a low blow hop :D

big daddy russ

11-07-2006, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by KL3
...and Goeke who could kick 50 yard FG's...
Against 20-someodd mph winds.

halfnhalf

11-07-2006, 12:33 PM

Where is Goeke playing his college ball at?? As good as he was in high school it looked as though he would be a stud in college.

KL3

11-07-2006, 12:36 PM

He signed with Blinn and played there for 1 year I think, then transferred to A&M, but I believe has since given up football.

halfnhalf

11-07-2006, 12:37 PM

That sux, he had a monster leg.

mustang04

11-07-2006, 12:44 PM

actually...i say 02 sweetwater, M. Carrillo's senior season...

Adidas410s

11-07-2006, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by DaHop72
:thinking: :thinking: Now who did they lose to that year.:D

Sorry Hops...I just had to! ;)

http://www.snyder.esc14.net/administration/collins/0405/Football/Varsity/SemifinalsGilmer/4th%20Qtr/d5.jpg

Adidas410s

11-07-2006, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by BreckTxLonghorn
*HOMER*

1998 Breckenridge. 3A player of the year, plus a bunch of juniors who were 3 yr lettermen. They should've plowed through the playoffs.

Then they got cocky before the Monahans game. Still gets me sick to my stomach.

I agree. I was shocked when they lost in the 3rd round in both 98 and 99 to Monahans and Lamesa...but ESPECIALLY in 98. That was a great team and I remember the Wylie/Breck playoff game @ Gordon Wood. I believe the final was 21-7 Breck and nobody at Wylie really complained because we knew we had played as well as we could have.

I also remember the "mud bowl" game against Breck (I'm thinking it was in 97 though) when there were 24 fumbles. Breck fumbled 16 times but only lost 4 of them whereas Wylie lost 6 of their 8 fumbles. Craziness in the rain indeed...

sweetwater07

11-07-2006, 12:54 PM

Snyder put a spanking on Wylie in Wylie's 04 state season...this might have been brought up already..but what the hay

wedo

11-07-2006, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by raider red 2000
my bad :)

and i think that Demestrice Doggins might have been the best athlete on the team.

No problem!

actually yeah he was talent! played WR/DE Thats an athlete. Man it make me mad when i think about how good we were and didn't make a longer run :mad:

Stownhorse

11-07-2006, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by mustang04
actually...i say 02 sweetwater, M. Carrillo's senior season...

I cant remember that yr. I was a little squirt.

mac77

11-07-2006, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by g$$
I am a homer at times admittedly, but I have to mention Sweeny '00 & '01. Team was stacked & let's just say they had coaching issues (no longer in Sweeny). Lost 3 rounds deep & should have contended for a title (beaten by Cameron Yoe w/ Billy Pittman & Bridge City). Give those teams credit too.

Johnnie Lee Higgins, Jr. WR/DB (UTEP)
Thomas Wright RB/DB (Oklahoma State)
Jonathan Fields WR/DB (Northwestern)
Stevie Smith RB/DB (Sam Houston)
Troy Thompson TE/DE (Blinn JC, knee injury before D1)
Jason Baca QB (SW Texas State baseball)
Virgil Crowson LB (Texas Lutheran)
Courtenay Sanders DB (Ranger JC)
& others (Will Burns, Matt Burger, Jason Fields, Michael Williams...)

Team had size & speed. Shame they did not make a deeper run.
The 97 team from Sweeny was better. Only problem with this is that they were 4A at the time. They went 3 rounds deep in 4A and were the 2nd smallest 4A in the state.

DaHop72

11-07-2006, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by Stownhorse
That was a low blow hop :D It was Stown, but I knew you would appreciate it.:D

DaHop72

11-07-2006, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by Adidas410s
Sorry Hops...I just had to! ;)

http://www.snyder.esc14.net/administration/collins/0405/Football/Varsity/SemifinalsGilmer/4th%20Qtr/d5.jpg :mad: :mad: :mad: Stay out of this.:D :D
And delete that picture from you files.

Adidas410s

11-07-2006, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by DaHop72
:mad: :mad: :mad: Stay out of this.:D :D
And delete that picture from you files.

it's not in my files...you can thank Snyder ISD for keeping it in their files! :D:D:D

mrescape43

11-07-2006, 02:33 PM

Snyder 04

Beat Div I State Champion Abilene Wylie in District matchup.

Outlasted a very strong Sweetwater team in Qtrs.

Lost to eventual Div II State Champion Gilmer in semi-final game.

coiled2strike

11-07-2006, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by FormerBellvilleBrahma
Bellville the same year, (differant division) Buenger and Grebe.

what was the kicker's name...the one that went to blinn...he was a very good receiver, too...#14, i think

Snyder_TigerFan

11-07-2006, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by mrescape43
Snyder 04

Beat Div I State Champion Abilene Wylie in District matchup.

Outlasted a very strong Sweetwater team in Qtrs.

Lost to eventual Div II State Champion Gilmer in semi-final game.

That was the best Snyder team in quite some time (if not the best), but I definitely think the best team did win state that year (Gilmer). A pretty safe bet that they would have won Div I that year too, IMO.

big daddy russ

11-07-2006, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by coiled2strike
what was the kicker's name...the one that went to blinn...he was a very good receiver, too...#14, i think
Goeke... I think his first name was Brandt.

coiled2strike

11-07-2006, 03:06 PM

that's it...thanks...he had a bad game that year when they lost, but he caught everything within reach the night they played us...great hands and a powerful leg

texasjeremy

11-07-2006, 03:25 PM

2004 Palestine

mrescape43

11-07-2006, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
That was the best Snyder team in quite some time (if not the best), but I definitely think the best team did win state that year (Gilmer). A pretty safe bet that they would have won Div I that year too, IMO.

You are right that Gilmer took it to the Tigers but this threat was about the best teams (Not) to win a championship.

Sweetwater Red

11-07-2006, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
That was the best Snyder team in quite some time (if not the best), but I definitely think the best team did win state that year (Gilmer). A pretty safe bet that they would have won Div I that year too, IMO.

That year Gilmer probably could've played SLC within 20 points.

Tres Lobos

11-07-2006, 07:25 PM

I remember a kid from i think it was the 04 snyder team i forgot what his name was he was like a move in from california or something

mrescape43

11-07-2006, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Adidas410s
Sorry Hops...I just had to! ;)

http://www.snyder.esc14.net/administration/collins/0405/Football/Varsity/SemifinalsGilmer/4th%20Qtr/d5.jpg

Hey, who was the last team to totally dominate the 04 Dogs? Snyder Tigers! :D

mrescape43

11-07-2006, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Tres Lobos
I remember a kid from i think it was the 04 snyder team i forgot what his name was he was like a move in from california or something

I believe that RB Dee Walker moved with his father from AZ.

wooden bear

11-07-2006, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by texasjeremy
2004 Palestine

NO not even close

Tres Lobos

11-07-2006, 07:53 PM

ya thats his name, dang thanks mrescape43 that was killing me, lol

Highschoolfan78

11-07-2006, 08:08 PM

I'm shocked to not see '98 Giddings.. They had Cuero beat in the semi's at the alamodome and it flopped in the last few minutes.. They were a good team.. It was 10-0 Giddings when Cuero came back in the last few minutes to win 13-10

westtexasfbfan

11-07-2006, 11:08 PM

They lost 27-24 in double overtime to Bandera who was 12-2.

Ranger Mom

11-07-2006, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by westtexasfbfan
They lost 27-24 in double overtime to Bandera who was 12-2.

:weeping: :weeping: :weeping:
That still hurts me to this day!!

pololdb

11-08-2006, 02:16 AM

1998 Sweeny Bulldogs; One of the most talented teams in the state, just didn't have a competent coach.

g$$

11-08-2006, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by pololdb
1998 Sweeny Bulldogs; One of the most talented teams in the state, just didn't have a competent coach.

You sound awfully bitter, & I'm from Sweeny too. That coach you speak of is back now from administration & doing a great job again. If you had said the previous coach of a few years ago, then I would agree with you. But you are way off-base with those comments & obviously have an axe to grind, that is for sure. It all boils down to the RB decision in the AP game right? You might want to check his overall record (100+ wins, district titles, playoff success) & the way he runs a 1st class program before popping off & sounding blatantly stupid. When all else fails, blame the coach right? I'd go to battle with TZ anytime. Teams are always prepared, well-coached, & disciplined.

Overall Record: 108-45-7 entering play this Friday night
(that's right around 70% on the winning side)

Getting beat by a 48 yd. FG in the Quarterfinals is a darn good year. Disappointing yes, but nothing to be ashamed of by far, & you lost to a pretty good team too.

Try losing in the State Semifinals in 1988 (senior year) to Navasota in a driving rain w/ ice on the field in Katy. Our speed was negated by the weather & we were supposed to play the previous day when it was dry, but things got changed. Navasota capitalized on 2 mistakes & made us pay. We lost 14-12. Our FB (200+ yds.) outgained their whole team for the game! Better team lost that day, but give them credit. I'm NOT blaming the coaches years later. We had reservations in Austin to play SLC at Memorial Stadium the next week. That stilll hurts me today. SLC was awfully good, but it would have been fun to give it a try. SLC won state that next week.

g$$

11-08-2006, 03:40 AM

Originally posted by mac77
The 97 team from Sweeny was better. Only problem with this is that they were 4A at the time. They went 3 rounds deep in 4A and were the 2nd smallest 4A in the state.

That may be true & you're right about the 4A thing. I saw the 2000 & 2001 teams more as I was watching my nephew then. I was living in CS in '97 & working at A&M so I was busier on game weekends. Was that the year of all the ties in district, etc.? Beat Michael Lewis (Colorado/now Eagles All Pro safety) & Lamar Consolidated right?

Guess my point was they should have been better with all the D1 talent like Higgins, Wright, Smith, etc. Wonder if he misses that in Palacios?

spiveyrat

11-08-2006, 07:52 AM

Originally posted by big daddy russ
I think that was the year... that was one of the years I saw them at Kyle.

I may actually have seen them twice at Kyle, but I can't remember for the life me. I know I saw them tear up Jasper the first year, and I want to say I saw them play each other again the next year, but looking back I may be mixing up '02, '03, and '04. I moved up to CS in 2003 and thought that's when I saw that great Burnet team, but looking back I may have made a road trip up here to visit my brother and some friends the year before.

The year they pasted Jasper at Kyle was the year I was thinking of that Burnet was stout. One of the years, Jasper hung in there, but that was the year Burnet didn't seem like they were as good.

Out of the 2002 thru 2004 Jasper teams, I think they had the most talent in 2002. True, they played Burnet better in 2003. But in 2003, Jasper went into the game with a better game plan. Had Jasper played Burnet in 2002 with the same game plan as they used in 2003... well, who knows.

But to stay on topic, I think any of the 2002 thru 2004 Jasper teames were among the best to not win a championship.