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jason
11-05-2006, 08:49 AM
DISCLAIMER: THIS IS NOT MEANT TO TURN INTO A POLITICAL RANTING THREAD.

By HAMZA HENDAWI, Associated Press Writer 3 minutes ago

BAGHDAD, Iraq -
Saddam Hussein was convicted and sentenced Sunday to hang for crimes against humanity in the 1982 killings of 148 people in a single Shiite town, as the ousted leader, trembling and defiant, shouted "God is great!"

As he, his half brother and another senior official in his regime were convicted and sentenced to death by the Iraqi High Tribunal, Saddam yelled out, "Long live the people and death to their enemies. Long live the glorious nation, and death to its enemies!" Later, his lawyer said the former dictator had called on Iraqis to reject sectarian violence and refrain from revenge against U.S. forces.

The trial brought Saddam and his co-defendants before their accusers in what was one of the most highly publicized and heavily reported trials of its kind since the Nuremberg tribunals for members of Adolf Hitler's Nazi regime and its slaughter of 6 million Jews in the World War II Holocaust

"The verdict placed on the heads of the former regime does not represent a verdict for any one person. It is a verdict on a whole dark era that has was unmatched in
Iraq's history," Nouri al-Maliki, Iraq's Shiite prime minister, said.

Some feared the verdicts could exacerbate the sectarian violence that has pushed the country to the brink of civil war, after a trial that stretched over nine months in 39 sessions and ended nearly 3 1/2 months ago. The verdict came two days before midterm elections in the United States widely seen as a referendum on the Bush administration's policy in Iraq. U.S. and Iraqi officials have denied the timing was deliberate.

In north Baghdad's heavily Sunni Azamiyah district, clashes broke out between police and gunmen. Elsewhere in the capital, celebratory gunfire rang out.

"This government will be responsible for the consequences, with the deaths of hundreds, thousands or even hundreds of thousands, whose blood will be shed," Salih al-Mutlaq, a Sunni political leader, told the Al-Arabiya satellite television station.

Saddam and his seven co-defendants were on trial for a wave of revenge killings carried out in the city of Dujail following a 1982 assassination attempt on the former dictator. Al-Maliki's Islamic Dawa party, then an underground opposition, has claimed responsibility for organizing the attempt on Saddam's life.

In the streets of Dujail, a Tigris River city of 84,000, people celebrated and burned pictures of their former tormentor as the verdict was read.

Saddam's chief lawyer Khalil al-Dulaimi condemned the trial as a "farce," claiming the verdict was planned. He said defense attorneys would appeal within 30 days.

The death sentences automatically go to a nine-judge appeals panel, which has unlimited time to review the case. If the verdicts and sentences are upheld, the executions must be carried out within 30 days.

A court official told The Associated Press that the appeals process was likely to take three to four weeks once the formal paperwork was submitted.

During Sunday's hearing, Saddam initially refused the chief judge's order to rise; two bailiffs pulled the ousted ruler to his feet and he remained standing through the sentencing, sometimes wagging his finger at the judge.

Before the session began, one of Saddam's lawyers, former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark, was ejected from the courtroom after handing the judge a memorandum in which he called the trial a travesty.

Chief Judge Raouf Abdul-Rahman pointed to Clark and said in English, "Get out."

In addition to the former Iraqi dictator and Barzan Ibrahim, his former intelligence chief and half brother, the Iraqi High Tribunal convicted and sentenced Awad Hamed al-Bandar, the head of Iraq's former Revolutionary Court, to death by hanging. Iraq's former Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan was convicted of premeditated murder and sentenced to life in prison.

Three defendants were sentenced to 15 years in prison for torture and premeditated murder. Abdullah Kazim Ruwayyid and his son Mizhar Abdullah Ruwayyid were party officials Dujail, along with Ali Dayih Ali. They were believed responsible for the Dujail arrests.

Mohammed Azawi Ali, a former Dujail Baath Party official, was acquitted for lack of evidence and immediately freed.

He faces additional charges in a separate case over an alleged massacre of Kurdish civilians — a trial that will continue while appeals are pending.

The guilty verdict is likely to enrage hard-liners among Saddam's fellow Sunnis, who made up the bulk of the former ruling class. The country's majority Shiites, who were persecuted under the former leader but now largely control the government, will likely view the outcome as a cause of celebration.

Al-Dulaimi, Saddam's lawyer, told AP his client called on Iraqis to reject sectarian violence and called on them to refrain from taking revenge on U.S. invaders.

"His message to the Iraqi people was 'pardon and do not take revenge on the invading nations and their people'," al-Dulaimi said, quoting Saddam. "The president also asked his countrymen to 'unify in the face of sectarian strife.'"

In Tikrit, Saddam's hometown, 1,000 people defied the curfew and carried pictures of the city's favorite son through the streets. Some declared the court a product of the U.S. "occupation forces" and condemned the verdict.

"By our souls, by our blood we sacrifice for you Saddam" and "Saddam your name shakes America."

U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad issued a statement saying the verdicts "demonstrate the commitment of the Iraqi people to hold them (Saddam and his co-defendants) accountable."

"Although the Iraqis may face difficult days in the coming weeks, closing the book on Saddam and his regime is an opportunity to unite and build a better future," Khalilzad said.

Two U.S. officials who worked as advisers to the court on matters of international judicial procedures said Saddam's repeated courtroom outbursts during the nine-month trial may have played a key part in his conviction.

They cited his admission in a March 1 hearing that he had ordered the trial of 148 Shiites who were eventually executed, insisting that doing so was legal because they were suspected in the assassination attempt against him. "Where is the crime? Where is the crime?" he asked, standing before the panel of five judges.

Later in the same session, he argued that his co-defendants must be released and that because he was in charge, he alone must be tried. His outburst came a day after the prosecution presented a presidential decree with a signature they said was Saddam's approval for death sentences for the 148 Shiites, their most direct evidence against him.

About 50 of those sentenced by the "Revolutionary Court" died during interrogation before they could go to the gallows. Some of those hanged were children.

"Every time they (defendants) rose and spoke, they provided a lot of incriminating evidence," said one of the U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject.

Under Saddam, Iraq's bureaucracy showed a consistent tendency to document orders, policies and minutes of meetings. That, according to the U.S. officials, helped the prosecution produce more than 30 documents that clearly established the chain of command under Saddam.

One document gave the names of everyone from Dujail banished to a desert detention camp in southern Iraq. Another, prepared by an aide to Saddam, gave the president a detailed account of the punitive measures against the people of Dujail following the failed assassination attempt.

Saddam's trial had from the outset appeared to reflect the turmoil and violence in Iraq since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.

One of Saddam's lawyers was assassinated the day after the trial's opening session last year. Two more were later assassinated and a fourth fled the country.

In January, chief judge Rizgar Amin, a Kurd, resigned after complaints by Shiite politicians that he had failed to keep control of court proceedings. He, in turn, complained of political interference in the trial. Abdul-Rahman, another Kurd, replaced Amin.

Hearings were frequently disrupted by outbursts from Saddam and Ibrahim, with the two raging against what they said was the illegitimacy of the court, their ill treatment in the U.S.-run facility where they are being held and the lack of protection for their lawyers.

The defense lawyers contributed to the chaos in the courtroom by staging several boycotts.

Old Tiger
11-05-2006, 08:50 AM
Hooray death(for Saddam)!






I would rather see him stoned to death but this is an old school tactic as well.

tap_tx_sinton
11-05-2006, 09:03 AM
Just going to cause more problems then good....

3afan
11-05-2006, 09:43 AM
well get ready for the poop to really hit the fan ..........

bullfrog_alumni_02
11-05-2006, 09:43 AM
you dont now how true that statement is tap_tx_sinton :(

Dogman_1969
11-05-2006, 10:01 AM
What do you think about the appeal process. The review of the appeal has unlimited time but if they reject the appeal the hanging has to take place within 30 days. Its a shame that it could take that long....................

cats2151
11-05-2006, 10:23 AM
Have fun in hell bi***!

GreenMonster
11-05-2006, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Tiger WR
Hooray death for Saddam!
I would rather see him stoned to death.

Brilliant!

Hooray Beer!

mrescape43
11-05-2006, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Tiger WR
Hooray death(for Saddam)!






I would rather see him stoned to death but this is an old school tactic as well.

I agree and just before he loses consciousness they should cover him in pig blood and guts.

GreenMonster
11-05-2006, 10:40 AM
So are we going to have a State-wide Meet&Greet/ Tailgater/Beer Fest to watch this glorious event unfold on pay-per-view? I'm all for it.

bullfrog_alumni_02
11-05-2006, 10:44 AM
since austin is the state capitol, i vote the M&G be held there...also, there is alot of booze already there, and i would just like to remind everyone that it is still legal to hang someone in your front lawn for 7 days if you catch them stealing your cattle/horses.:D

carter08
11-05-2006, 12:34 PM
I would have voted for the guillotine

Old Tiger
11-05-2006, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by carter08
I would have voted for the guillotine To cliche...:D

kaorder1999
11-05-2006, 02:05 PM
GIT A ROPE

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tap_tx_sinton
11-05-2006, 08:34 PM
Its all fun and games to joke around about the matter, but the fact is we all are going to have to deal with this for life. Not to mention your kids and then there kids....
Think about the men and women over seas right now how there feel. I bet there are not to happy knowing that all help might break loose when they are their on duty. If it was not bad enough there now this. Why not wait till we pull out to kill the SOB. Let them deal with the after math. Ok that enough on this matter......

IHStangFan
11-05-2006, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by tap_tx_sinton
Its all fun and games to joke around about the matter, but the fact is we all are going to have to deal with this for life. Not to mention your kids and then there kids....
Think about the men and women over seas right now how there feel. I bet there are not to happy knowing that all help might break loose when they are their on duty. If it was not bad enough there now this. Why not wait till we pull out to kill the SOB. Let them deal with the after math. Ok that enough on this matter...... have you ever been in the military? if not, please do not speak for my bretheren in the desert thanks, because you obviously have no idea of how a soldier's mind works. I ASSURE you they feel that Saddam's death is a moral victory for the entire world, especially for us and the countless people he exterminated by unspeakable means. Will this cause an upwards trend in violence in that region? maybe so, but then again....what DOESNT?? just ask the media :rolleyes: The misconception most people have is that we're at war w/ a certain country, or a race of people over there...which is totally wrong. We are at war w/ religious fanatics of a certain faith. (Have you ever read any of the Koran? I have)

anyway, I'll close as I fear I'm fixing to go into a major rant about things that I should not here on the DL.

Good day.

tap_tx_sinton
11-05-2006, 09:28 PM
That why i ended enough on this matter.