Statewide Scoring Averages thru Week 8

[WOS87]

Average Points Scored per Game thru Week 8
(among all 1017 11-man UIL football teams 1A-5A)

1. 3A - Gilmer 56.25
2. 1A - Alto 55.38
3. 5A - Southlake Carroll 51.62
4. 4A - Highland Park 50.62
5. 3A - Hondo 48.50
6. 4A - McKinney North 47.62
7. 2A - Deweyville 46.67
8. 2A - Hamilton 46.25
9. 4A - Stephenville 46.12
10. 4A - Dallas Wilson 45.50
11. 2A - Jefferson 45.00
12. 2A - East Bernard 44.88
13. 5A - McAllen Memorial 44.78
14. 3A - Liberty Hill 44.71
15. 3A - Celina 44.50
16. 3A - Rio Hondo 44.25
17. 2A - Tatum 43.62
17. 1A - Goldthwaite 43.62
19. 5A - Laredo United 43.44
19. 1A - Roscoe 43.44
21. 2A - Comfort 43.38
22. 1A - Rocksprings 43.29
23. 2A - Cisco 43.25
24. 5A - Lufkin 42.38
25. 5A - Austin Westlake 42.29
26. 4A - Keller Fossil Ridge 42.25
27. 5A - Coppell 42.12
27. 5A - Mansfield Summit 42.12
29. 5A - Cedar Hill 41.88
29. 1A - Windthorst 41.88

Average Points Allowed per Game thru Week 8
(among all 1017 11-man UIL football teams 1A-5A)

1. 1A - New Deal 1.50
2. 1A - Alto 1.62
3. 5A - Spring Westfield 2.75
4. 5A - Galena Park North Shore 4.88
5. 1A - Windthorst 5.12
5. 2A - Panhandle 5.12
5. 3A - Rio Hondo 5.12
8. 4A - Lamar Consolidated 5.38
9. 1A - Collinsville 5.75
10. 1A - Goldthwaite 5.88
10. 1A - Wolfe City 5.88
12. 1A - Price Carlisle 6.25
12. 4A - Dallas Wilson 6.25
14. 2A - Jefferson 6.75
14. 4A - El Paso Chapin 6.75
16. 3A - Celina 6.88
17. 1A - Nazareth 7.00
17. 1A - D'Hanis 7.00
19. 5A - Katy 7.12
20. 4A - Schertz Clemens 7.50
21. 1A - Rocksprings 7.57
22. 2A - Friona 7.62
23. 4A - San Antonio Brackenridge 7.71
24. 1A - Pettus 7.88
25. 3A - West Orange-Stark 8.00
25. 1A - Harper 8.00
25. 4A - El Paso Andress 8.00
28. 2A - Farmersville 8.25
28. 4A - Aledo 8.25
30. 1A - Lovelady 8.38

Largest Average Margins of Victory thru Week 8
(among all 1017 11-man UIL football teams 1A-5A)

1. 1A - Alto 53.75
2. 3A - Gilmer 41.12
3. 4A - Dallas Wilson 39.25
4. 3A - Rio Hondo 39.12
5. 3A - Hondo 39.00
6. 2A - Jefferson 38.25
7. 5A - Southlake Carroll 38.00
8. 4A - McKinney North 37.75
8. 1A - Goldthwaite 37.75
10. 3A - Celina 37.62
11. 1A - New Deal 37.00
12. 5A - Galena Park North Shore 36.88
13. 4A - Stephenville 36.75
13. 1A - Windthorst 36.75
15. 4A - Lamar Consolidated 35.88
16. 4A - Highland Park 35.75
17. 1A - Rocksprings 35.71
18. 4A - El Paso Chapin 34.00
19. 1A - Lovelady 32.75
20. 1A - Nazareth 32.38
21. 5A - Laredo United 32.11
22. 2A - East Bernard 32.00
23. 1A - Price Carlisle 31.00
24. 4A - Aledo 30.75
25. 5A - Lufkin 30.12
26. 3A - West Orange-Stark 29.88
27. 1A - Roscoe 29.78
28. 1A - Collinsville 29.62
29. 5A - Coppell 29.12
29. 2A - Lone Oak 29.12

[Old Tiger]

New Deal vs. Alto would be an interesting match up

[pirate4state]

Very interesting!! Thanks WOS87!! :clap:

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by Tiger WR
New Deal vs. Alto would be an interesting match up i don't know about New Deal, but Alto is a 2A powerhouse playing 1A football. I will be shocked if they do not win a title.

[Boosty_Hondo]

wow very cool i like alot

[cats2151]

I bet alto blows the rest of the teams out that they play.The state game will not even be close.

[Texasfootball2]

Interesting but really has no bearing as to how good they are. Gilmer and Liberty Hill have played some pretty good schedules and the stats are impressive. Celina, Hondo, and Rio Hondo have played some pathetic schedules. If Wimberely, Sweetwater, & Abilene Wylie had played weak schedules they would make list like this. Looking back over the past 6 or 7 years teams who have played easy schedules and ran up some impressive numbers have bowed out early in the playoffs. Celina will have a chance to make a decent playoff run if they can escape a very athletic Madison team. Hondo needs to pray that they are D1 if they are to have any hope of making a playoff run because region IV is weak if you go D1. If they are D2, they will not last long and neither will Rio Hondo because Wimberely and Cuero will both be D2 more than likely.

[pirate4state]

I knew it wouldn't take long!! :)

[Texasfootball2]

Don't see where anybodies panties are in a wad. Just saying these list really mean nothing. They are obviously more for fans to beat there chest about because the kids have to fight it all out on the grass in Nov. and Dec.

[OldNavy]

TexasFootball2, I agree that LH has played a very tough schedule, but 6-2 Tatum is the only team Gilmer has played that even has a winning record.

Tatum 6-2 lost 45-21
Daingerfield 3-5 lost 62-42
Center 1-7 lost 64- 6
Atlanta 2-6 lost 49-12
Sabine 0-8 lost 49- 7
White Oak 1-7 lost 63- 7
Mineola 2-6 lost 62-12

Unless my math is wrong their opponents have a combined win/loss record of 15 wins vs 41 losses. So if that is a pretty good schedule, how bad are those pathetic schedules you mention? No wins against all losses?

[hawkfan]

Originally posted by cats2151
I bet alto blows the rest of the teams out that they play.The state game will not even be close.

I know this is just talk because they won't play, But Alto wouldn't beat Windthorst. I've seen Alto play on film. they don't seem very physical, they just have way, way, way, better athletes and their non-district schedule and their district is not very tough. I wouldn't be suprised if somebody beat them. But I will probably have some crow to eat in December. We wil see

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by OldNavy
TexasFootball2, I agree that LH has played a very tough schedule, but 6-2 Tatum is the only team Gilmer has played that even has a winning record.

Tatum 6-2 lost 45-21
Daingerfield 3-5 lost 62-42
Center 1-7 lost 64- 6
Atlanta 2-6 lost 49-12
Sabine 0-8 lost 49- 7
White Oak 1-7 lost 63- 7
Mineola 2-6 lost 62-12

Unless my math is wrong their opponents have a combined win/loss record of 15 wins vs 41 losses. So if that is a pretty good schedule, how bad are those pathetic schedules you mention? No wins against all losses? you forgot the Las Vegas team that we played:D

[OldNavy]

Originally posted by lostaussie
you forgot the Las Vegas team that we played:D

You are rignt, I did forget. I also don't know their win/loss record but even if it is 7 and 1 that would bring the combined record to 22 wins vs 42 losses. --Don't get me wrong, I think Gilmer is a class act, perhaps the best offensive group to come along in awhile, I am just trying to clarify the difference between a "pretty good schedule" and a "pathetic schedule" as was posted.

I personally think there are about 5 to 10 really strong teams and about 10 more that on their best day could beat one of those really strong teams and after that the ability seems to go down quite a bit. So it will be hard for any team to build a real strong schedule unless they are willing to spend a lot of time on the raod and the other teams can fit the dates into their schedule. LH perhaps the exception. It looks like their schedule might be the toughest in 3A this year. -- But pathetic schedules, really?--

[Texasfootball2]

Originally posted by OldNavy
You are rignt, I did forget. I also don't know their win/loss record but even if it is 7 and 1 that would bring the combined record to 22 wins vs 42 losses. --Don't get me wrong, I think Gilmer is a class act, perhaps the best offensive group to come along in awhile, I am just trying to clarify the difference between a "pretty good schedule" and a "pathetic schedule" as was posted.

I personally think there are about 5 to 10 really strong teams and about 10 more that on their best day could beat one of those really strong teams and after that the ability seems to go down quite a bit. So it will be hard for any team to build a real strong schedule unless they are willing to spend a lot of time on the raod and the other teams can fit the dates into their schedule. LH perhaps the exception. It looks like their schedule might be the toughest in 3A this year. -- But pathetic schedules, really?--

I will agree that districts with 4 or 5 teams have more opportunities and more flexibility in scheduling games or districts with 7 or 8 teams. It doesn't cost that much more to drive and hour and half further on a school bus, about 80 miles. Some AD/Head FB coaches know the importance of scheduling tough teams in non-district and are willing to play those games knowing they could lose. But losing to a quality team in 3A or even a good team in 4A usually pays dividens come the end of the year when you have to win a tough district to make the playoffs or when a playoff game. I think that some coaches like to see themselves in the rankings during the year and even if they bow out early in the playoffs, the fact that they were 9-2 is a security blanket for keeping their jobs. I coach for 18 years so I know how job security works in coaching, so part of me sympathises with them, but I have more respect for programs who are willing to play some tough teams in thier non-district schedule, because those are games that are games of "CHOICE". Nobody can ever use someone district schedule against them because they have no control over that.

I have been somewhat critical of Celina on this board a couple of times because I don't think they play a tough schedule. I will say this about Celina though. They have done very well for themselves since going 3A, especially for a school with and enrollment of 429. I think if they would go a play some really good teams in thier non-district schedule they might not have as good of a record at the end of the year and they may not be ranked as high, but they would be a legitament contender every year. They may be contenders this year but it hard to gauge how they will do against really good teams with just as much size and just as much/or more speed.

[dirtydan]

Atlanta has been using this tactic for years. This year prior to district, they played all 4A schools and their winnings was 0. but that changes when district starts. back in 2003 when they defeated gilmer in playoff and went on to 3A state champs; they had a losing record prior to district and playoffs. so you are right if a coach can stand the heat of losing in non-district; there may be benefits for doing it, i.e. reaching the playoffs and beyond..

[bobcat1]

I have been somewhat critical of Celina on this board a couple of times because I don't think they play a tough schedule. I will say this about Celina though. They have done very well for themselves since going 3A, especially for a school with and enrollment of 429. I think if they would go a play some really good teams in thier non-district schedule they might not have as good of a record at the end of the year and they may not be ranked as high, but they would be a legitament contender every year. They may be contenders this year but it hard to gauge how they will do against really good teams with just as much size and just as much/or more speed.

Time will tell all. We trust our coaching staff here in Celina. We go to church with them and know they will do what is our kid's best interests. They didn't play anyone over the years yet they have won more titles than anyone else. Not in 3A, but I believe it is coming. These boys are on cruise control right now and the coaches believe it or not are yanking their team's bit. I am really excited to see it all turned loose at once. It may not be enough and it may be. Time will tell!

[Texasfootball2]

The top half of the brackett for D2 region II is not excatly loaded, so it wouldn't surprise me if Celina makes a decent playoff run. It will surprise me if they win it all.

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by Texasfootball2
The top half of the brackett for D2 region II is not excatly loaded, so it wouldn't surprise me if Celina makes a decent playoff run. It will surprise me if they win it all. i think the Celina vs. Madison winner is the region II winner. I can also see either team winning the semi's and playing for the championship.

[FormerBellvilleBrahma]

Bellvilles average was 40 points a game, that was with in all but 2 of the games, the 2nd and 3rd teamers were in at the half, and in 1 game bellville 1st QB was out in the 1st Q, and Bellvilles #1 running back was hurt, and is now out. Some of these teams could play the 1st teamers all night and score as many as they want?