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JasperDog94
10-23-2006, 10:00 AM
This is the computer's rankings in the poll:

T-1. Michigan

T-1. USC

3. Ohio State

4. Florida

5. California

6. Auburn

7. Rutgers

8. Notre Dame

9. Louisville

10. Arkansas

11. Tennessee

12. Boise State

13. Texas

14. West Virginia

15. Clemson

T-16. Wisconsin

T-16. Boston College

18. Washington State

19. Missouri

20. LSU

T-21. Texas A&M

T-21. Oregon

JasperDog94
10-23-2006, 10:09 AM
Ohio State # 3?

Rutgers # 7?

Boise State # 12 (above both Texas and West Virginia)?

Give me a break.:rolleyes:

spiveyrat
10-23-2006, 11:19 AM
LSU just above A&M at #20? PUH-LEASE! :doh: :hand:

spiveyrat
10-23-2006, 11:23 AM
...and Auburn beat a #2 ranked Florida. :rolleyes:

awizzy
10-23-2006, 11:24 AM
wow any1 with two eyes better yet one eye can see that in no way is rugters a top ten team or better than texas at that....this is were the b and the s come from in the bcs

Stownhorse
10-23-2006, 11:25 AM
man Texas loses to the best team in the nation and they are lower than a lower than a midget.

LH Panther Mom
10-23-2006, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by Stownhorse
man Texas loses to the best team in the nation and they are lower than a lower than a midget.
I'm sure that squeaking by an unranked team lowered their ranking more than the loss....jmo.

awizzy
10-23-2006, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
I'm sure that squeaking by an unranked team lowered their ranking more than the loss....jmo.
they went up...last week they had texas at 15

LH Panther Mom
10-23-2006, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by awizzy
they went up...last week they had texas at 15
Ohhhhhh. :doh: I obviously don't pay too much attention since my team isn't mentioned. :bigcry: Maybe I was thinking of the AP poll.....were they ranked # 9 there? :confused:

awizzy
10-23-2006, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Ohhhhhh. :doh: I obviously don't pay too much attention since my team isn't mentioned. :bigcry: Maybe I was thinking of the AP poll.....were they ranked # 9 there? :confused:
texas is number 5 in both the ap poll and usa today...the computers had texas at 15 witch made them 9 in the bcs after this week texas moved up two spots in the computer polls and now texas is number 7 in the bcs...see what texas needs to happen is all the teams ahead of them in the computer to loose and that would jump them way up in the bcs

TMer25
10-23-2006, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
I'm sure that squeaking by an unranked team lowered their ranking more than the loss....jmo.

Nebraska was ranked #17

LH Panther Mom
10-23-2006, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by TMer25
Nebraska was ranked #17
That's what I get for looking at this week's BCS list, instead of going back. :D BUT.....my team hasn't got a chance in heck :bigcry: :bigcry: , so I really don't care which teams go to what BCS bowls. :)

mwynn05
10-23-2006, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by awizzy
wow any1 with two eyes better yet one eye can see that in no way is rugters a top ten team or better than texas at that....this is were the b and the s come from in the bcs i dono when i was watching rutgers play pitt i was actually thinking wow they're pretty good

JasperDog94
10-23-2006, 12:50 PM
Rutgers would finish 3rd at best in the weak Big 12 South, not to mention the SEC.

BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
10-23-2006, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by awizzy
witch


hehe....

big daddy russ
10-23-2006, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by JasperDog94
Rutgers would finish 3rd at best in the weak Big 12 South, not to mention the SEC.
I really do think Rutgers could make some noise in the Big XII. They'd have problems with UT, A&M, and OU (because of those teams' run defense), but could torch everyone else. I could see them taking one of two between A&M and OU, maybe even both, and finishing just under the top tier.

Not top-ten worthy, but right there with the rest of the Big XII, as there's a lot of parity with the suckiness in the league this year.

We just don't realize how down the Big XII is, but I'd say we're only the fifth-best conference in the nation... and we're not even close to fourth-best PAC-10. The PAC-10's five best teams (USC, Oregon, Wazzu, UCLA, and Cal) would all have GREAT shots at winning the Big XII North. Hell, USC and Cal are on Texas' level, and every team down to Arizona State could hang with our second- and third-best teams, Nebraska and OU (in that order). And that's not even considering the fact that we have two more teams to choose from, and therefore SHOULD have more depth than the Pacific Conference.

STXBramha
10-23-2006, 02:10 PM
I don't think you can compare Big XII teams and Pac 10 teams. Without a few unfortunate plays by Nebraska, they would have had a shot at USC. Most schools in the Big 12 have much better defense and aren't as much run and gun like the west coast. Very hard to base a comparison without them playing.

STXBramha
10-23-2006, 02:12 PM
And there is no way Zona state would hang with Nebraska. They are much better than they are getting credit for. Their only losses are to top 5 teams. Wait and see what they do with Mizzou and other teams before you talk down on them.

zeke
10-23-2006, 02:21 PM
I keep hearing about the BCS rankings and was wondering how it was done. I was somewhat surprised to learn that the computer ranking portion consisted of 6 other college football ranking services. Looks like we may need to blame the Seattle Times, Wes Colley, and Peter Wolfe if Texas wins out but fails to get into the championship game.

A breakdown of the components of the BCS Rankings for 2006:

I. Harris Interactive Poll (1/3rd)
Replaces the AP Poll. The first poll will be released September 24, then weekly through December 4. A team's score in the Harris poll will be divided by 2,825, which is the maximum number of points any team can receive if all 113 voting members rank the same team as Number 1. (Example: 2,825 / 2,825 = 1.0. If a team receives a total of 113 voting points, an average of 25th place, their BCS quotient of this component would be .04. (1.0 / 25 = 0.04).
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/news/bcspoll.asp

II. Coaches Poll (1/3rd)
A team's score in the USA Today poll will be divided by 1,575, which is the maximum number of points any team can receive if all 63 voting members rank the same team as Number 1. (Example: 1,575 / 1,575 = 1.0. If a team receives a total of 63 voting points, an average of 25th place, their BCS quotient of this component would be .04. (1.0 / 25 = 0.04.)
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm

(Better understanding the polls: In both human polls, voting members fill out their own top 25 rankings ballot. Each team receives 1-25 points in reverse order of the way they are ranked. The 25th place team on each ballot receives 1 point, 24th place gets 2 points, 23rd receives 3 points... first place receives 25 points.

In the Harris Interactive College Football Poll and USA Today Coaches Poll, a team will be evaluated on the number of voting points it receives in each poll. The number of actual voters, which can vary and has varied in the past, is figured into the computation on a weekly basis in stating each team's percentage of a possible perfect score.

III. Computer rankings (1/3rd)
Six computer ranking systems will participate. The highest and lowest rating of each team will be thrown out and the remaining four will be averaged. The current participating computer rankings are:

Peter Wolfe
Wes Colley
Sagarin
Seattle Times
Richard Billingsley
Kenneth Massey

Simplifying the formula
A = Harris Poll
B = Coaches Poll
C = Throw out the high and low of the six computer rankings for each team. Add the remaining four. Divide that total by four.
Result: A+B+C = Total Score

http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bcs_explained.html


Harris Interactive Poll - ranks Texas at #5 this week.

Peter Wolfe - ranks texas at #11
http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cfootball/ratings.htm#Division%20I-A
Wes Colley - ranks Texas at #14
http://www.colleyrankings.com/
Sagarin - ranks Texas at #6
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt06.htm
Seattle Times - ranks Texas at #16
http://www.andersonsports.com/football/ACF_frnk.html
Richard Billingsley - Ranks Texas at #4
http://www.cfrc.com/
Kenneth Massey - ranks Texas at #8
http://www.mratings.com/cf/compare.htm

coach
10-23-2006, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by zeke
I keep hearing about the BCS rankings and was wondering how it was done. I was somewhat surprised to learn that the computer ranking portion consisted of 6 other college football ranking services. Looks like we may need to blame the Seattle Times, Wes Colley, and Peter Wolfe if Texas wins out but fails to get into the championship game.

A breakdown of the components of the BCS Rankings for 2006:

I. Harris Interactive Poll (1/3rd)
Replaces the AP Poll. The first poll will be released September 24, then weekly through December 4. A team's score in the Harris poll will be divided by 2,825, which is the maximum number of points any team can receive if all 113 voting members rank the same team as Number 1. (Example: 2,825 / 2,825 = 1.0. If a team receives a total of 113 voting points, an average of 25th place, their BCS quotient of this component would be .04. (1.0 / 25 = 0.04).
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/news/bcspoll.asp

II. Coaches Poll (1/3rd)
A team's score in the USA Today poll will be divided by 1,575, which is the maximum number of points any team can receive if all 63 voting members rank the same team as Number 1. (Example: 1,575 / 1,575 = 1.0. If a team receives a total of 63 voting points, an average of 25th place, their BCS quotient of this component would be .04. (1.0 / 25 = 0.04.)
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm

(Better understanding the polls: In both human polls, voting members fill out their own top 25 rankings ballot. Each team receives 1-25 points in reverse order of the way they are ranked. The 25th place team on each ballot receives 1 point, 24th place gets 2 points, 23rd receives 3 points... first place receives 25 points.

In the Harris Interactive College Football Poll and USA Today Coaches Poll, a team will be evaluated on the number of voting points it receives in each poll. The number of actual voters, which can vary and has varied in the past, is figured into the computation on a weekly basis in stating each team's percentage of a possible perfect score.

III. Computer rankings (1/3rd)
Six computer ranking systems will participate. The highest and lowest rating of each team will be thrown out and the remaining four will be averaged. The current participating computer rankings are:

Peter Wolfe
Wes Colley
Sagarin
Seattle Times
Richard Billingsley
Kenneth Massey

Simplifying the formula
A = Harris Poll
B = Coaches Poll
C = Throw out the high and low of the six computer rankings for each team. Add the remaining four. Divide that total by four.
Result: A+B+C = Total Score

http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bcs_explained.html


Harris Interactive Poll - ranks Texas at #5 this week.

Peter Wolfe - ranks texas at #11
http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cfootball/ratings.htm#Division%20I-A
Wes Colley - ranks Texas at #14
http://www.colleyrankings.com/
Sagarin - ranks Texas at #6
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt06.htm
Seattle Times - ranks Texas at #16
http://www.andersonsports.com/football/ACF_frnk.html
Richard Billingsley - Ranks Texas at #4
http://www.cfrc.com/
Kenneth Massey - ranks Texas at #8
http://www.mratings.com/cf/compare.htm

where u from zeke? and do u go to school?

IHStangFan
10-23-2006, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Stownhorse
man Texas loses to the best team in the nation and they are lower than a lower than a midget. i think it has more to do w/ their wins than their losses. who have they beat thats worth a crap ....really? Nobody in the Big 12, cause as a whole, the Big 12 is HORRIBLE. UT could win out completely and win the Big 12 champ. and STILL not be a national champ. contender. Besides Ohio State, their schedule is a joke.

big daddy russ
10-23-2006, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by STXBramha
I don't think you can compare Big XII teams and Pac 10 teams. Without a few unfortunate plays by Nebraska, they would have had a shot at USC. Most schools in the Big 12 have much better defense and aren't as much run and gun like the west coast. Very hard to base a comparison without them playing.
They were outgained 211-399 and they were "a few unfortunate plays" away from beating USC?

It was a lopsided game. A VERY lopsided game. It should've (and could've easily) been a lot worse than 28-10, but Nebraska's defense made some key stops that kept them in the game. That's the strength of that team, and until they learn to use Marlon Lucky, Cody Glenn, and that FB of theirs to help them out and take some pressure off Zac Taylor, they'll be a team that can only flirt with greatness.

I'll give you that Nebraska's a different team now than they were back then, but so is ASU. Rudy Carpenter finally got his crap together and ASU isn't starting two freshman in the secondary (like Texas was).

You CAN compare the Pac-10 and the Big XII, and when you take off those rose-colored glasses it doesn't look so good.

vet93
10-23-2006, 06:11 PM
Baylor played WSU (lost to USC, the pride of the conference by 6) pretty close (17-15). Also USC didn't have to go to Lincoln in the snow to play Nebraska like Texas did. OU and Oregon were virtually even and OU is having a mediocre year (even when they had Peterson). OU also beat Washington pretty easily. UCLA beat a pitiful Rice team by 10...Texas beat the same team 52-7. I wouldn't say that the Big XII is better, but I think the conferences are more even than you think.


Originally posted by big daddy russ
They were outgained 211-399 and they were "a few unfortunate plays" away from beating USC?

It was a lopsided game. A VERY lopsided game. It should've (and could've easily) been a lot worse than 28-10, but Nebraska's defense made some key stops that kept them in the game. That's the strength of that team, and until they learn to use Marlon Lucky, Cody Glenn, and that FB of theirs to help them out and take some pressure off Zac Taylor, they'll be a team that can only flirt with greatness.

I'll give you that Nebraska's a different team now than they were back then, but so is ASU. Rudy Carpenter finally got his crap together and ASU isn't starting two freshman in the secondary (like Texas was).

You CAN compare the Pac-10 and the Big XII, and when you take off those rose-colored glasses it doesn't look so good.