South Texas Rankings (10/1)

[Bull Butter]

not that many changes this week.............

1. RIO HONDO (5-0, LW 1) beat Raymondville 42-7
2. INGLESIDE (3-1, LW 2) beat Zapata 53-14
3. ORANGE GROVE (4-0, LW 4) beat Falfurrias 47-7
4. LA FERIA (4-0, LW 5) beat Lyford 35-7
5. SINTON (1-3, LW 3) lost to Robstown (4A) 17-7
6. HIDALGO (3-2, LW 6) beat Brownsville St. Joseph 57-12
7. ARANSAS PASS (3-2, LW 7) beat Goliad 27-7
8. PORT ISABEL (3-2, LW 9) beat Coahuila,MX 41-6
9 RAYMONDVILLE (2-3, LW 8) lost to Rio Hondo 42-7
10. WEST OSO (2-2, LW 10) Idle
11. FALFURRIAS (2-3, LW 11) lost to Orange Grove 47-7
12. ZAPATA (2-3, LW 12) lost to Ingleside 53-14
13. MATHIS (2-3. LW 14) beat San Diego 21-7
14. LYFORD (1-3. LW 13) lost to La Feria 35-7
15. PROGRESO (2-2, LW 15) Idle
16. SAN DIEGO (0-5, LW 16) lost to Mathis 21-7

[piratebg]

OMG, Sinton is still #5. How in the heck did that happen? I know that they have had a tough predistrict schedule, but I thought 3 losses would move them down.

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by piratebg
OMG, Sinton is still #5. How in the heck did that happen? I know that they have had a tough predistrict schedule, but I thought 3 losses would move them down.
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Because Hidalgo would be 0-4 with Sinton's pre-district.;)

[Bull Butter]

I kept them at 5 considering their losses have been to Cuero(#1 in 3A), Beeville(good 4A) and a Robstown team that is much improved.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Originally posted by Bull Butter
I kept them at 5 considering their losses have been to Cuero(#1 in 3A), Beeville(good 4A) and a Robstown team that is much improved.
they could have won the last 2 games just need to come out and play a full game as they let the last two slip away in the second half.

[MagicMan]

rio hondo is gonna win state

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by MagicMan
rio hondo is gonna win state
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Ummm....
how bout them Texans!:clap: :p

[Ray_BearKat]

Originally posted by Bull Butter
not that many changes this week.............

1. RIO HONDO (5-0, LW 1) beat Raymondville 42-7
2. INGLESIDE (3-1, LW 2) beat Zapata 53-14
3. ORANGE GROVE (4-0, LW 4) beat Falfurrias 47-7
4. LA FERIA (4-0, LW 5) beat Lyford 35-7
5. SINTON (1-3, LW 3) lost to Robstown (4A) 17-7
6. HIDALGO (3-2, LW 6) beat Brownsville St. Joseph 57-12
7. ARANSAS PASS (3-2, LW 7) beat Goliad 27-7
8. PORT ISABEL (3-2, LW 9) beat Coahuila,MX 41-6
9 RAYMONDVILLE (2-3, LW 8) lost to Rio Hondo 42-7
10. WEST OSO (2-2, LW 10) Idle
11. FALFURRIAS (2-3, LW 11) lost to Orange Grove 47-7
12. ZAPATA (2-3, LW 12) lost to Ingleside 53-14
13. MATHIS (2-3. LW 14) beat San Diego 21-7
14. LYFORD (1-3. LW 13) lost to La Feria 35-7
15. PROGRESO (2-2, LW 15) Idle
16. SAN DIEGO (0-5, LW 16) lost to Mathis 21-7

Raymondville's record is off by 1 again this week....we're 3-2 not 2-3...

Premont L
Port Isabel W
St. Joe W
Progreso W
Rio Hondo L

and Rio Hondo will not win state...they still have some ways to go.

[Bull Butter]

My bad on the Kats record. Gracias for the clarification.

[IHStangFan]

Rio Hondo #1? LOL, that wont last once they come up out of the valley and actually play somebody.

[footballgal]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
Rio Hondo #1? LOL, that wont last once they come up out of the valley and actually play somebody.

Hey, are you saying PI is not anybody? Anybody coming out of 32-AAA will be tough, you can quotew me on that. ;)

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by footballgal
Hey, are you saying PI is not anybody? Anybody coming out of 32-AAA will be tough, mark my words. ;) I'm saying, in the valley they are, but I dont see PI hanging w/ the likes of Cuero, or Giddings, etc. PI is a good team w/ a strong, rich tradition in the valley, but traditionally valley teams dont go more than 2 rounds deep in the playoffs. (PI would be the exception) they have in the past, but its not a regular thing. lets all be honest here, RGV football is not exactly considered the cream of the crop in TXHSF. never has been, never will be. All I was getting at is that the Rio Hondo at #1 thing might last as long as they are in district, but come playoff time, that'll change.

[Bull Butter]

I remember 2 years ago when PI "came up out of the valley" and beat Ingleside 35-25. (well, actually, Ingleside came down here and started basketball when they got home) Or 3 years ago when PI "came up" and beat Orange Grove, Hondo, Liberty Hill and Rice Consolidated.

I'm not saying RH is as good as those 2 PI teams, but the season is still young

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
I'm saying, in the valley they are, but I dont see PI hanging w/ the likes of Cuero, or Giddings, etc. PI is a good team w/ a strong, rich tradition in the valley, but traditionally valley teams dont go more than 2 rounds deep in the playoffs. (PI would be the exception) they have in the past, but its not a regular thing. lets all be honest here, RGV football is not exactly considered the cream of the crop in TXHSF. never has been, never will be. All I was getting at is that the Rio Hondo at #1 thing might last as long as they are in district, but come playoff time, that'll change.
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Rio Hondo is very, very good. Stop with the "valley football" thing, please. :(

[footballgal]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
I'm saying, in the valley they are, but I dont see PI hanging w/ the likes of Cuero, or Giddings, etc. PI is a good team w/ a strong, rich tradition in the valley, but traditionally valley teams dont go more than 2 rounds deep in the playoffs. (PI would be the exception) they have in the past, but its not a regular thing. lets all be honest here, RGV football is not exactly considered the cream of the crop in TXHSF. never has been, never will be. All I was getting at is that the Rio Hondo at #1 thing might last as long as they are in district, but come playoff time, that'll change.
I don't totally disagree with you, about the RGV football thing; But I am specifically talking about 32-AAA, which I have been watching since '86. Last year and this year, 32-AAA as it stands right now, is looking very tough. These same three teams were all bi-district champs and all basically are the same teams. With the exception of PI, whom I think is better than last year, for sure. And yes, I think that PI could hang with the likes of Cuero and company, especially in the playoffs, were PI turns it up a notch, in each round. But, that's another discussion for another month or so.

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by Bull Butter
I remember 2 years ago when PI "came up out of the valley" and beat Ingleside 35-25. (well, actually, Ingleside came down here and started basketball when they got home) Or 3 years ago when PI "came up" and beat Orange Grove, Hondo, Liberty Hill and Rice Consolidated.

I'm not saying RH is as good as those 2 PI teams, but the season is still young if youll notice, i said PI was the exception, but in 95 Ingleside beat PI 22-15, so I guess the series is 1-1 if you want to get technical. PI is undoubtedly the best team in the valley in 3A compitetion consistantly, and have had many playoff runs into the semis, but the semis is where it ends for PI. As far as valley ball, there have been several instances over the last 50 years or so that PI has been 10-0 in district only to be desimated by a Cuero, or a Yoakum, or a Marlin, or even Freer. Here is what I found on PI since 1950.


1950: Port Isabel competes is first season as an independent, going 2-6-1.

1951: Port Isabel competes in District 36-B with Los Fresnos and loses only district game. The Tarpons finish 2-8 that season.

1952: Port Isabel goes 4-6-1 and wins is first district title despite tying Los Fresnos in the teams’ only district game. PI advances to the playoffs by virtue of a 12-6 edge in first downs in the Los Fresnos game. The Tarpons lose to West OSO 58-0 in a bi-district contest.

1953: Port Isabel is the only team in District 36-B (East). Two of PI’s games were not reported, but the Tarpons were 2-5 in games reported.

1954: Port Isabel moves to Class A and begins play in District 32. The Tarpons go 0-5 in district play.

1955: Port Isabel goes 0-10.

1956: Port Isabel falls back to Class B and finishes second in District 40, capturing its first winning season (7-2).

1957: Port Isabel falls to 4-6 and 1-3 in District 40-B.

1958: Port Isabel moves back to Class A and competes in District 32-A, a three-team district that includes Rio Hondo and La Joya. The Tarpons are 0-2 in district.

1959: Port Isabel goes winless this season.

1960: In a district with only Rio Hondo, PI loses to Rio Hondo in their only district contest.

1961: Port Isabel suffers the same result as the year before.

1962: In a revitalized District 32-A, Port Isabel finishes fourth.

1963: Port Isabel moves up a spot in district standings, finishing third (5-4-1 overall, 2-1-1 District 32-A).

1964: Port Isabel drops off and finishes 0-2-1 in district.

1965: Port Isabel goes 1-2 in district.

1966: Port Isabel jumps to Class 2A and struggles in its first season in a new district, gointg 0-5.

1967: Port Isabel makes a small improvement in district, going 1-3-1.

1968: Port Isabel goes 5-5 overall.

1969: Port Isabel goes 4-5 overall.

1970: Port Isabel finishes 5-4 overall.

1971: Port Isabel is 2-8 overall.

1972: Port Isabel goes 4-6 overall and has now gone 20 years without a playoff berth.

1973: Port Isabel has a successful season but finishes third in District 32-2A and out of the playoffs.

1974: Port Isabel has a big year under the direction of Willie Craft. The Tarpons go 7-0 in district and 10-0 overall but lose to Freer 35-0 in bi-district.

1975: Port Isabel finishes out of playoff contention with a 5-1-1 district record.

1976: Port Isabel goes 10-0 and 7-0 in district. The Tarpons get their first playoff win, 33-7 over Freer, but lose 13-9 to Yoakum in the regional round.

1977: Port Isabel just misses the playoffs, finishing one game out of first to La Feria in District 32-2A.

1978: Port Isabel completes an undefeated season going 10-0 overall and 7-0 in district. It wins a bi-district contest against Hebbronville, but fails to get past Kenedy in the regional round.

1979: Port Isabel goes undefeated during the regular season for the second straight season and goes three rounds deep into the playoffs, losing 21-6 to Edna in the quarterfinals.

1980: Port Isabel jumps to Class 3A and does not miss a beat. The Tarpons go 11-1-1 to win District 32-3A and go three rounds deep, losing on penetrations to Van Vleck in the regional round after a 0-0 tie.

1981: Port Isabel completes one of its best seasons, going to the state semifinals. The Tarpons shut out 10 of their 14 opponents, but lose to Cameron Yoe 25-14 in the state semis.

1982: Under new coach Alex Leal, Port Isabel wins its fifth straight district title and goes two rounds deep in the postseason.

1983: Port Isabel shares the District 32-3A title with Hidalgo, finishing 5-1 in district and going three rounds deep.

1984: Port Isabel coach Alex Leal led the Tarpons to a seventh straight year with at least a share of a district title. For the second year in a row, they reach the state quarterfinals.

1985: The Tarpons finish out of playoff contention. They go 6-4, their worst record since 1972. PI captures a postseason berth, but loses 7-6 to Freer in bi-district.

1986: Port Isabel goes 8-3 and earns a playoff spot, but loses 23-20 to Hebbronville in bi-district

1987: Port Isabel has a 7-2-1 record and is 6-0-1 district. The Tarpons lose to Hebbronville in bi-district for the second year in a row. Port Isabel was stripped of its district title for preseason infractions, and Santa Rosa was certified at the district champion.

1988: Port Isabel wins its first district title since 1985 and wins a bi-district game against Freer before bowing out in the area round to West Oso 21-7.

1989: Despite a 7-2 record, Port Isabel misses the playoffs for the first time 1977.

1990: Under the direction of Tony Villarreal, Port Isabel goes four rounds deep into the playoffs. The Tarpons are 12-2 and win the District 32-3A title. They collect playoff wins against San Diego, Taft and Hondo before falling to Sinton in the state quarterfinals.

1991: Port Isabel falls to 7-4 and loses 41-14 to Freer in bi-district.

1992: Port Isabel finishes 9-2-2, winning the District 32-3A title. The Tarpons defeat George West 21-8 in bi-district and Rockport-Fulton on penetrations (5-3) after a tie at 21 in the area round. The Tarpons lose Marble Falls 28-7 in the Region IV semifinal.

1993: Port Isabel finishes 10-3 overall, 5-1 in District 32-3A, and goes three rounds deep into the playoffs. The Tarpons had wins over San Diego (bi-district) and Carrizo Springs (area) before losing to Cuero 63-8 in the Region IV semifinals.

1994: For the second time in school history, Port Isabel reaches the state semifinals. The Tarpons go 13-1-1, 6-0 in District 32-3A. The Tarpons defeat Orange Grove (bi-district) Carrizo Springs (area), Cuero in the Region IV semifinals and Bandera in the state quarterfinals before falling to Sealy 34-13 in the state semis.

1995: Port Isabel finishes 10-1-1 tied for second in District 32-3A with La Feria at 5-0-1. The two teams tied their district meeting at 14. The Tarpons beat San Diego 26-22 in bi-district before losing 22-15 to Ingleside in area action.

1996: Port Isabel finishes 10-2, 6-0 in District 32-3A. The Tarpons go three rounds deep in the playoffs with wins over Orange Grove in bi-district and Sinton in area round. Sealy beats PI 42-0 in the Region IV semifinal.

1997: Port Isabel finishes 5-4 overall and as the co-district champion with Hidalgo with a 5-1 record. The Tarpons lose to Bishop 54-26 in bi-district.

1998: Port Isabel finishes 6-5, 5-2 in District 32-3A. The University Interscholastic League moves to two playoffs divisions for Classes 3 through 5. The Tarpons lose 28-14 to Orange Grove in a Division II bi-district game.

1999: The Tarpons miss the playoffs for the first time since 1989. They finish fourth in District 32-3A and 5-5 overall.

2000: Port Isabel goes 6-5 overall and loses in bi-district 42-8.

2001: Port Isabel finishes 8-4 and goes two rounds deep in the playoffs with a 48-6 bi-district win over San Diego. The Tarpons lose 10-0 in area round.

2002: Port Isabel finishes 9-3, winning the District 32-3A title. The Tarpons go three rounds deep in the playoffs with wins against Bishop 43-14 in bi-district and Aransas Pass 20-19 in the area around before losing 27-24 to Bandera in the semifinals.

2003: This season is one of the best years in program history. Port Isabel goes 10-4, 5-1 in District 32-3A, and makes the state semifinals. The Tarpons defeat Orange Grove 28-0 in bi-district, Hondo 35-20 in area round and Liberty Hill 35-27 in the Region IV semis. Their fourth win this postseason came in the Division II Region IV championship and took almost five hours to complete, as they defeated Altair Rice 63-62 in four overtimes. Port Isabel loses 41-10 to Marlin in the state semis.

2004: Port Isabel finishes 11-2, 6-0 in District 32-3A. The Tarpons go three rounds deep with a bi-district win over Orange Grove (48-21), an area win over Ingelside 35-28 and a 10-0 loss to Hallettsville in the Region IV semifinal.

2005: Port Isabel finishes 5-7, 4-2 in District 32-3A. RB Marky Villarreal breaks the Valley’s single-game rushing record with 403 yards. PI goes two rounds deep in the playoffs.

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by footballgal
I don't totally disagree with you, about the RGV football thing; But I am specifically talking about 32-AAA, which I have been watching since '86. Last year and this year, 32-AAA as it stands right now, is looking very tough. These same three teams were all bi-district champs and all basically are the same teams. With the exception of PI, whom I think is better than last year, for sure. And yes, I think that PI could hang with the likes of Cuero and company, especially in the playoffs, were PI turns it up a notch, in each round. But, that's another discussion for another month or so. ;) always said w/ class. good luck to the Tarpons.

[footballgal]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
;) always said w/ class. good luck to the Tarpons.
Thank you Mr. Cowbell, Best wishes to your Mustangs.:cool:

[SintonFan_inAustin]

if u look at the rankings it says south texas and Rio Hondo has played the games and are perfect so far. Anybody in these rankings that u see that can hang with Cuero or Giddings. Ingleside couldnt hang with PLC, bad game or not, still got owned. Sinton didnt show they could score points against the likes of Cuero.
Orange Grove is a playoff team but a 1st round team only. La Feria might be a notch better than OG. Port Isabel look like a slow start but look at the teams they played early. But right now Rio Hondo deserves that ranking that Butter gave them:)

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
if u look at the rankings it says south texas and Rio Hondo has played the games and are perfect so far. Anybody in these rankings that u see that can hang with Cuero or Giddings. Ingleside couldnt hang with PLC, bad game or not, still got owned. Sinton didnt show they could score points against the likes of Cuero.
Orange Grove is a playoff team but a 1st round team only. La Feria might be a notch better than OG. Port Isabel look like a slow start but look at the teams they played early. But right now Rio Hondo deserves that ranking that Butter gave them:) thanks for your input.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

;) thanks for yours gave me something to post about:thumbsup:

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
Rio Hondo #1? LOL, that wont last once they come up out of the valley and actually play somebody.
I'd put 'em there right now, B. RH gave us a hell of a game in last year's playoffs and returned just about all their studs. They'll be good this year and would probably give us a game if we played them again.

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
I'd put 'em there right now, B. RH gave us a hell of a game in last year's playoffs and returned just about all their studs. They'll be good this year and would probably give us a game if we played them again. yeah, probably so, but sadly enough, I dont think Reg IV as a whole is too strong compared to the other regions. Rio Hondo and PI are no doubt the power houses in the valley, and saying they'd give Ingleside and Sinton a run (this year in particular) isnt saying a whole lot. Ingleside is iffy (or PLC is just that good) Sinton seems to be in a bit of a slump although, they have played some quality opps. Not many just TOP teams in Reg. IV this year. It should all pan out come district time and closer to the playoffs as to just who will be the top teams in this region. The one or two valley teams year after year seem to come outa the valley w/ perfect records just to be handed their butts by someone north of say...San Antone every year....heck its the same for the Corpus area schools as well...take Calallen and GP for example.....they always dominate in that area, and then get trounced. As of now, I'll give you that...Rio Hondo should be up there, but come playoff time, they go what? 1 or 2 rounds deep? That is all I was getting at. By the way...we'll see yall Nov 4th? OU-vs-A&M?

[footballgal]

Give it a few more weeks and I think our region will get stronger.

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
Ingleside is iffy (or PLC is just that good) Sinton seems to be in a bit of a slump although, they have played some quality opps. Not many just TOP teams in Reg. IV this year....Rio Hondo should be up there, but come playoff time, they go what? 1 or 2 rounds deep? That is all I was getting at. By the way...we'll see yall Nov 4th? OU-vs-A&M?
Ingleside will be alright.

We live in a "what have you done for me lately" world, and football just doesn't work like that, no matter what ESPN wants everyone to believe. All kinds of good teams lose to all kinds of horrible ones. Just look at Florida State. They're much better than Troy and Clemson, but they almost lost to Troy, and the Tigers finished the job.

I saw Needville play Liberty Hill last year up here in Bryan, and I saw what they had coming back. An absolute STUD linebacker, a very quick (though not very physical) running back, and some guys on defense. I thought they'd be a sleeper in that district, but I've never seen WC or Sweeney, and don't know what Wharton has. All I know, is if Ingleside was in that district, we'd probably be favored to win it. Doesn't mean we would, but we would be favored. We're definitely better than Needville, at least on paper.

I don't know what happened against PLC, but I can guarantee that we didn't show up for that game. Not knocking Calhoun at all... they took advantage of the mistakes we made and we deserved to lose, but I know we let them stay in the game in the first place and that they took advantage of turnovers in the second half. We jumped out to a 10-0 lead, then did nothing but turn the ball over everytime we got it. The Sandcrabs scored 19 unanswered points (mostly off turnovers), took the wind out of our sails, and took a 19-10 lead into the fourth quarter. That lead quickly swelled to 33-10 less than four minutes into the fourth.

Basically, our guys learned a tough lesson about mental toughness that night. Last year, it took almost three quarters before we started to show our grit against Cuero. This year, we got an early lesson. We'll be just fine, as we showed last week.

Back to Rio Hondo, I really think they're right there with us and Hondo, rounding out the top five in the region behind Cuero and Wimberley. LaVernia, Devine and Bandera are running a little behind, but they're a notch just below the rest of us.

Would we win R3? Probably not. But we'd probably make it a round or two deep, depending on who we draw.

And we'll have to get together for the OU game. Whether we tailgate or go out to Northgate afterwards, something's going down.

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
Ingleside will be alright.

We live in a "what have you done for me lately" world, and football just doesn't work like that, no matter what ESPN wants everyone to believe. All kinds of good teams lose to all kinds of horrible ones. Just look at Florida State. They're much better than Troy and Clemson, but they almost lost to Troy, and the Tigers finished the job.

I saw Needville play Liberty Hill last year up here in Bryan, and I saw what they had coming back. An absolute STUD linebacker, a very quick (though not very physical) running back, and some guys on defense. I thought they'd be a sleeper in that district, but I've never seen WC or Sweeney, and don't know what Wharton has. All I know, is if Ingleside was in that district, we'd probably be favored to win it. Doesn't mean we would, but we would be favored. We're definitely better than Needville, at least on paper.

I don't know what happened against PLC, but I can guarantee that we didn't show up for that game. Not knocking Calhoun at all... they took advantage of the mistakes we made and we deserved to lose, but I know we let them stay in the game in the first place and that they took advantage of turnovers in the second half. We jumped out to a 10-0 lead, then did nothing but turn the ball over everytime we got it. The Sandcrabs scored 19 unanswered points (mostly off turnovers), took the wind out of our sails, and took a 19-10 lead into the fourth quarter. That lead quickly swelled to 33-10 less than four minutes into the fourth.

Basically, our guys learned a tough lesson about mental toughness that night. Last year, it took almost three quarters before we started to show our grit against Cuero. This year, we got an early lesson. We'll be just fine, as we showed last week.

Back to Rio Hondo, I really think they're right there with us and Hondo, rounding out the top five in the region behind Cuero and Wimberley. LaVernia, Devine and Bandera are running a little behind, but they're a notch just below the rest of us.

Would we win R3? Probably not. But we'd probably make it a round or two deep, depending on who we draw.

And we'll have to get together for the OU game. Whether we tailgate or go out to Northgate afterwards, something's going down. very well put, and just to clarify what i meant by "iffy": basically thats MY perseption on the fact that (and it hasnt been a re-occuring thing yet) is it going to turn into "which Mustang team shows up" kinda thing? Will we be an inconsistant team? or was PLC just a hickup? I hope its the second. I'm anxious for district play. As far as Needville....District 24 is how it always is....all the talk is Wharton this and West Columbia that. On paper (as I havent seen either play yet this year) they are both less than impressive, meanwhile Needville (again on paper) looks decent and is 5-0. I plan on goin to watch them in the near future, probably againsnt Wharton or WC. Yes, we will see you on the 4th of Nov! Ive already got my tickets!

[ol country boy]

INJURIES:mad:

[Boosty_Hondo]

are these ur personal pics or are they from a website

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by ol country boy
INJURIES:mad: hey OCB, how goes it amigo? Haven't seen ya around here in awhile.