Aggies and Army

[kepdawg]

9:03 1Q

TD Lane

Aggies 7
Army 0

[Old Tiger]

nobody cares!

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by Tiger WR
nobody cares!

If nobody is you then I don't care!

[Old Tiger]

lol

[3afan]

Originally posted by Tiger WR
nobody cares!


a ton more people care about aTm/USMA than SC/Nebraska that your are simul-posting for some unknown reason

[Old Tiger]

You have to know the theory behind it :D

[Sweetwater96]

I care, lol. Gig'em Aggies.!

[3afan]

its obvious :rolleyes:

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by 3afan
its obvious :rolleyes: :D ;)

[kepdawg]

Army responds

4:35 1Q

7-7

[Old Tiger]

Yay Army!!!!


TD


A&M 7
Army 7

[Old Tiger]

You can't hate a team like Army

[kepdawg]

Originally posted by Tiger WR
Yay Army!!!!


TD


A&M 7
Army 7

Hey! I thought you didn't care!

[Old Tiger]

See above post!

[Bullaholic]

No. 11-Lane, for the Ags, is a big ol' boy and a load.

[kepdawg]

Army leads 14-7

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by kepdawg
Army leads 14-7

:D :D :D

wow...Lane looks REALLY out of shape compared to last year. THat's just not healthy. He can't even make it more than 2 or 3 plays.

[Old Tiger]

Look at his belly

[un b weavable]

He eats babies.

[shankbear]

The other other white meat?

[Emerson1]

I'd take Henry Melton over him anyday.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Emerson1
I'd take Henry Melton over him anyday. Tru dat

[Old Tiger]

I remember playing 7on7 against Peterson. That guy wasn't that good to me.

[kepdawg]

21-21

[Adidas4I0s]

When Army converts a 4th and 1...their coach bumps into the official walking down the sideline and Army is flagged for 15 yards. That was VERY poor!!!

[WestTXLonghorn]

Hey, TAMU needs SOME sort of help. They sure aren't going to win these games on their own the way they're playing.

[Maroon87]

Doc Blanchard lives in S.A.? Who knew?:eek:

[un b weavable]

Originally posted by Tiger WR
I remember playing 7on7 against Peterson. That guy wasn't that good to me.

Does this have anything to do with the thread, or did you just want to let everyone know you played against him?

[kepdawg]

Aggies come up short on 4th and 1!

Army takes over possesion at the A&M 26.

2:55 4Q

Texas A&M 28
Army 24

[PHS Wildcats]

wow A&M is in TROUBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kepdawg]

3rd and 13 for Army coming up.

[PHS Wildcats]

Can't wait to see AggieJohn thoughts on this game:D

[kepdawg]

1:41

4th and 2 coming up.

[kepdawg]

1st down!

[kepdawg]

Clock running under 1:00.

Ball on 10.

[PHS Wildcats]

That receiver has great hands

[kepdawg]

:22

A&M takes a timeout.

4th and 4

[PHS Wildcats]

Pass Interference on A&M

[kepdawg]

Incomplete in the endzone with pass interference on A&M!

[kepdawg]

18 seconds ball on the 2

[kepdawg]

Timeout Army

13 seconds

2nd and goal

Ball on the 2

No more timeouts for Army

A&M takes a timeout

[kepdawg]

Incomplete pass

9 seconds

[kepdawg]

It's over!

A&M holds on for the win.

[Paratrooper]

WOW what a game

[Maroon87]

A&M is not good.

[Dogman_1969]

The is going to ba a long year for the Ag's in the Big XII. Army is a good squad but they are no Big XII team....

I expect this is the last year for Fran.......

[DOS EQUIS]

I'm just glad the game is over. Was not impressed with A&M, Army deserved the win.

[DOS EQUIS]

Army should have won the game, they seem to want it more. A&M coaches were out-coached. It could be Frans last year.

[sinton66]

Army's coach did Fran a big favor with that stupid call at the end. They had two downs and two shots at the endzone and call a run on third down. Not smart football at all.

[Matthew328]

I didn't think it was possible for Fran to be "out-dummed" but he did on that last play...why in the heck did Army call a run?? wow

[Bull's-eye]

Why does he go for it on 4th down? Clearly he should of punted. Coach Fran said if they didn't make it and Army scored, they would have enough time to come back and score. What is he smoking??? :confused: He also said this is the kind of win that his team needed, a great win on the road?? Too many Aggies to call this a road game and I wouldn't feel too happy about barely defeating Army.

[sahen]

Originally posted by Dogman_1969
The is going to ba a long year for the Ag's in the Big XII. Army is a good squad but they are no Big XII team....

I expect this is the last year for Fran....... Army isnt a good team, but i agree w/ the rest....

Army lost to Arkansas State and beat Kent State by 3 in OT, they were playing above that level tonight but you can only play to a certain extent better, this game told me a lot more about the Aggies than Army to me...

[Phil C]

Originally posted by sinton66
Army's coach did Fran a big favor with that stupid call at the end. They had two downs and two shots at the endzone and call a run on third down. Not smart football at all.

I agree 66. They could have had two plays with one being a quick pass and if they didn't maek it then try the running play on fourth down. I remember in about 1971 Freer met Rio Hondo in a 2A playoff game and Freer was ahead by four points but Rio Hondo was at the Freer 7 with 7 seconds left and no time outs. Rio Hondo tried a pass which fell incomplete but there was still 2 seconds left so Rio Hondo had one play left. A Freer lineman batted down the pass right after it was released saving the win for Freer but the point is that a 2A High School Team with 7 seconds left got off two plays whereas Army had 9 seconds left at the two yard line and got only one play off.
Still a great win for the Aggies against a great Army team. Remember Army won National Championships in 1944 and 1945 and should have got it in 1946.

[Bull19]

Originally posted by Bull's-eye
Why does he go for it on 4th down? Clearly he should of punted. Coach Fran said if they didn't make it and Army scored, they would have enough time to come back and score. What is he smoking??? :confused: He also said this is the kind of win that his team needed, a great win on the road?? Too many Aggies to call this a road game and I wouldn't feel too happy about barely defeating Army.


GOOD POST. JUST IMAGINE IF ARMY WOULD'VE SCORED ON THEIR LAST DRIVE AFTER THAT HORRIBLE CALL GOING FOR IT. WHAT WAS FRAN THINKING. THE ONLY POSSIBLE REASON I CAN THINK OF IS MAYBE AFTER SEEING BRANTLY SHANK HIS FIRST PUNT FOR 13 YARDS HE MIGHT HAVE LOST SOME CONFIDENCE IN HIM. BUT REGARDLESS IF UR GUNNA GO FOR IT CALL MAYBE AN OPTION, NOT A RUN UP THE MIDDLE WITH LANE. EVERYONE IN TX SAW IT COMING AND IT CLEARLY SHOWED. THE AGS GOT LUCKY WITH THIS ONE. GUNNA NEED TO PLAY MUTCH BETTER IF THEY WANT TO GET TO A BOWL GAME THIS YEAR

[AggieJohn]

i'm kind of dumbfounded, i know that u-lala and the citadel weren't "GREAT" opponent but the ags completely dominated both teams, and then they have to go wire to wire with this team who had lost it's starting qb and running back. I honestly thought this was going to be a massacre.

[crabman]

A&M has no defensive backs, no safeties, no linebackers, and only marginal defensive linemen. Other than that, their defense is fine. They can't tackle. #10 Warren's favorite play last night was getting to the runner about a half second late and just standing over the pile. I don't think he even broke a sweat. The difference between a program like UT and A&M is that UT has lockdown corners, fast and aggressive linebackers, and an intensity level far above their competition. A&M's intensity level seems to match that of their head coach.

I have never called for Fran's demise, but after that effort, I can see they will never be back to their mid-80's level under him. He is John Mackovic in maroon.

[District303aPastPlayer]

what was the final score of this game?

[DU_stud04]

Originally posted by District303aPastPlayer
what was the final score of this game?

28-24

[District303aPastPlayer]

how do you think that A&M is feeling right now about losing one of their better QB recruits in Drew Tate 4 years ago?

[wedo]

Originally posted by District303aPastPlayer
how do you think that A&M is feeling right now about losing one of their better QB recruits in Drew Tate 4 years ago?

Probably crappy is my guess!!!!!!!

[Old Dog]

I've been an Aggie fan for over 50 years and I can't describe the absolute wretched feeling I have about Fran and his whole staff.

[Bull19]

Originally posted by Old Dog
I've been an Aggie fan for over 50 years and I can't describe the absolute wretched feeling I have about Fran and his whole staff.


EVERYONE NEEDS TO GIVE FRAN A BREAK. WE ALL KNOW HE MADE THE WRONG DECISION GOING FOR IT ON FOURTH DOWN, BUT ALSO WE ALL KNOW IF THEY WOULD HAVE MADE IT EVERYONE WOULD HAVE AGREED WITH THE CALL. A&M IS A YOUNG TEAM AND THE LOSS OF COURTNEY LEWIS SURE DOESNT HELP BUT THEY WILL GET THINGS GOING. THEY HAVE A VERY GOOS SECONDARY AND A GOOD RUNNING GAME AND A GOOD ENOUGH PASSING GAME WITH SCHOEDER OR HOWEVER U SPELL IS NAME TO CATCH THE PASSES. A&M SIMPLY TOOK ARMY FOR GRANTED. WE ALL KNOW IF AN "A" TEAM PLAYS TO THE LEVEL OF A "B" TEAM AND A "C" TEAM PLAY TO THE LEVEL OF A "B" TEAM WE ARE GUNNA HAVE OURSELVES A GAME AND THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT.

[crabman]

THEY HAVE A VERY GOOS SECONDARY AND A GOOD RUNNING GAME

NO. They don't have a very "GOOS" secondary. They are not very GOOS at all. When a team keeps running slants on you all night long and you can't stop it, you are not very good.

Don't make me bring back unbweavables thread from last year about Marquis Carpenter, the best "crowd pumper-upper" ever to wear the maroon and white. They are not good defenders.

The running game is getting better. That is the one shining spot. I am a McGee fan and I think he will be great.

Fran and Darnell have got to go bye-bye.

[Bull19]

WHY THEN DID I HEAR OVER AND OVER THEY HAVE THE NUMBER 1 RANKED PASSING DEFENSE IN THE COUNTRY. WHEN U DEFEND THE SLANT THAT OPENS UP THE DEEP BALL AND THE AGS COULDNT RISK THAT CHANCE LAST NIGHT. THERE IS A REASON COACH FRAN WAS NATIONAL COACH OF THE YEAR TWICE NOT YOU.

[MagicMan]

The only explanation for how this game went was that A&M sucks

[Old Tiger]

The problem for A&M lies within itself. They can't recruit high profile players like the Texas, ND's, and USC's.


They get like one high profile player.

[sahen]

Originally posted by Bull19
WHY THEN DID I HEAR OVER AND OVER THEY HAVE THE NUMBER 1 RANKED PASSING DEFENSE IN THE COUNTRY. WHEN U DEFEND THE SLANT THAT OPENS UP THE DEEP BALL AND THE AGS COULDNT RISK THAT CHANCE LAST NIGHT. THERE IS A REASON COACH FRAN WAS NATIONAL COACH OF THE YEAR TWICE NOT YOU. come on the secondary was number 1 because you played 2 teams that could be given a good game by a good texas 5a school (and gilmer apparantly)....sure numbers/stats dont lie but u have to play a little better competition before you give ur secondary that kinda love, especially when the secondary has been absolutely horrid the past 2 years...sure defending the slant opens up the deep ball but when the team continueally catches a slant for 5 or 6 yards then runs another 5 or 6 u gotta do something about it, not to mention the army QB couldnt throw a deep ball at all....army got beat by arkansas state and barely beat kent state by 3 in OT, they didnt have probs defending the army attack and those 2 schools rnt what i call defensive powers..

[AggieJohn]

honestly i know this might seem like i'im putting a maroon slant on this, but this win did teach them more than the other two...fact is that this could of easily turn into baylor 2004, but it didn't, the aggies were down, showed some grit, and made a defensive stand.....service academies are difficult to play, mainily because they are more poised and focused, why do you think that air force has been so good lately,

another thing to ponder is that the head coach used to be an NFL coach who won a super bowl, i think he knows how to produce talent.

basically my take is that everything that could of gone wrong in this game did, and the aggies STILL came out with the victory......and are 3-0 and not 2-1

[Old Tiger]

The Aggie athletes are far superior than that of the service but it did not show. Army's o-line was dominating and the runningbacks were always falling forward.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by AggieJohn
honestly i know this might seem like i'im putting a maroon slant on this, but this win did teach them more than the other two...fact is that this could of easily turn into baylor 2004, but it didn't, the aggies were down, showed some grit, and made a defensive stand.....service academies are difficult to play, mainily because they are more poised and focused, why do you think that air force has been so good lately,

another thing to ponder is that the head coach used to be an NFL coach who won a super bowl, i think he knows how to produce talent.

basically my take is that everything that could of gone wrong in this game did, and the aggies STILL came out with the victory......and are 3-0 and not 2-1

The fact is when u play a team as bad as Army..and sorry but they are a BAD team..everything going wrong should still be a 42-17 type of win.

A&M should have the players hat allows them to just blow Army off the LOS and the speed at the skill positions to dominate.


Texas had 19 penaltys and ROLLED and before you say yea but that is Rice..The Owls will probably beat Army this year

[crabman]

Look at these two groups of teams.

University of Texas
USC
Ohio State
West Virginia
Auburn



Texas A&M
Lousiana Lafayette
Arkansas State
Kent State
The Citadel
Army


Notice two distinct groups?

Notice which my Aggies are in?

They used to be in the first group.

Nuff said.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by crabman
Look at these two groups of teams.

University of Texas
USC
Ohio State
West Virginia
Auburn



Texas A&M
Lousiana Lafayette
Arkansas State
Kent State
The Citadel
Army


Notice two distinct groups?

Notice which my Aggies are in?

They used to be in the first group.

Nuff said. When were they in the first group, 1939?

[wedo]

Originally posted by Bull19
EVERYONE NEEDS TO GIVE FRAN A BREAK. WE ALL KNOW HE MADE THE WRONG DECISION GOING FOR IT ON FOURTH DOWN, BUT ALSO WE ALL KNOW IF THEY WOULD HAVE MADE IT EVERYONE WOULD HAVE AGREED WITH THE CALL. A&M IS A YOUNG TEAM AND THE LOSS OF COURTNEY LEWIS SURE DOESNT HELP BUT THEY WILL GET THINGS GOING. THEY HAVE A VERY GOOS SECONDARY AND A GOOD RUNNING GAME AND A GOOD ENOUGH PASSING GAME WITH SCHOEDER OR HOWEVER U SPELL IS NAME TO CATCH THE PASSES. A&M SIMPLY TOOK ARMY FOR GRANTED. WE ALL KNOW IF AN "A" TEAM PLAYS TO THE LEVEL OF A "B" TEAM AND A "C" TEAM PLAY TO THE LEVEL OF A "B" TEAM WE ARE GUNNA HAVE OURSELVES A GAME AND THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT.

A&M is a young team and they will at least lose 4 this year!!! And the only good thing that will come out of that is a new coach!!! And then those young kids will hopefully be coached to their potientall!!!! IM glad to see my BIG classmate Kellen heard get some PT!!! Even though he jumped offsides on 4th and 1 !!! He is only a Freshman and he will be starting in the years to come!!! Thats my boy!!!!

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by un b weavable
Does this have anything to do with the thread, or did you just want to let everyone know you played against him? Yea dude he starts at corner for A&M and I'm saying he's not that good. So it has to do with the Aggies and he is an Aggie so yes.

[Bulldog_12]

ok, just got back from the game. Normally I would be pissed beyond comprehension right now, but im not. I think this game helps. The Ags screwed themselves in this game. We had a chance to blow it open in the first quarter after a three and out on army's first possession. We rough the kicker and give them the ball back in our territory. The D has to get themselves back up immediately and try to make a stand, which is not easy. Soon there was a fumble by true freshman Mike Goodson which gave Army another short field. The Ags come out in the second half score on the first play, then give army a three and out and we muff the punt putting them on our 15 yd line. I also have to wonder if we had even practiced on this turf before the game because people were slipping everywhere on our side of the ball. And another thing, the last play was not stupid on Army's part. They had beaten us on the edge ALL night and knew they had an advantage out there. It didnt work out that time, but go back and watch the rest of the game to see how they ran on the sweep. That game was also a HUGE recruitment commercial. We had to stop the game like every five seconds to watch some group of kids swear in. And while I am proud of our military and what they do, I came to watch football, not an awards/inductions ceremony.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Bulldog_12
ok, just got back from the game. Normally I would be pissed beyond comprehension right now, but im not. I think this game helps. The Ags screwed themselves in this game. We had a chance to blow it open in the first quarter after a three and out on army's first possession. We rough the kicker and give them the ball back in our territory. The D has to get themselves back up immediately and try to make a stand, which is not easy. Soon there was a fumble by true freshman Mike Goodson which gave Army another short field. The Ags come out in the second half score on the first play, then give army a three and out and we muff the punt putting them on our 15 yd line. I also have to wonder if we had even practiced on this turf before the game because people were slipping everywhere on our side of the ball. And another thing, the last play was not stupid on Army's part. They had beaten us on the edge ALL night and knew they had an advantage out there. It didnt work out that time, but go back and watch the rest of the game to see how they ran on the sweep. That game was also a HUGE recruitment commercial. We had to stop the game like every five seconds to watch some group of kids swear in. And while I am proud of our military and what they do, I came to watch football, not an awards/inductions ceremony. I thought that was you they showed on TV!

[Bulldog_12]

Originally posted by Tiger WR
I thought that was you they showed on TV!

:confused:

[Old Tiger]

You were on tv.:D :cool:

[cats2151]

aggies suck!

[Bulldog_12]

Originally posted by Tiger WR
You were on tv.:D :cool:

Sweet! Was I throwing up when Army was knocking on our door to end the game? :D

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Bulldog_12
Sweet! Was I throwing up when Army was knocking on our door to end the game? :D You $#!t a brick! lol

[Bulldog_12]

Originally posted by cats2151
aggies suck!

:clap: :clap:

Way to go on an intelligent post!
Thanks for blessing us with your presence on here.:rolleyes:

[Bulldog_12]

Originally posted by Tiger WR
You $#!t a brick! lol

Id imagine I was. Talk about nerve racking. The feeling when they held on the last play was amazing though. Even though it is only Army, it was nice to see a change in attitude in the team. Instead of folding, i.e. last year, they stood up and took care of business.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by Bulldog_12
Id imagine I was. Talk about nerve racking. The feeling when they held on the last play was amazing though. Even though it is only Army, it was nice to see a change in attitude in the team. Instead of folding, i.e. last year, they stood up and took care of business. I guess...you would have thought they beat Texas or OU or Baylor.

[Bulldog_12]

Originally posted by Tiger WR
I guess...you would have thought they beat Texas or OU or Baylor.

Im pretty sure any team would get excited after stopping a team on the 2 yd line going in to win the game no matter who you play. No sane person can tell me otherwise.

[Old Tiger]

True...you're a wise person.

[Bulldog_12]

Originally posted by Tiger WR
True...you're a wise person.

tell me something I dont know. I wish everyone on here were as smart as you.

[Old Tiger]

lol

[cats2151]

Maby one day you will be.

[crabman]

When were they in the first group, 1939?

Mid to late 80's. Right after I graduated.

As long as my memory is not failing me, I believe A&M beat Georgia with Herschel Walker, Auburn with Bo Jackson, and Notre Dame with Tim Brown. We beat Texas regularly. We had an entire class come through A&M who never lost to Texas. We had good teams. We beat good teams. 9-2 or 8-3 every year. An occasional appearance in the top 5. Regularly in the top 15. Yeah, A&M used to be good.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by crabman
Mid to late 80's. Right after I graduated.

As long as my memory is not failing me, I believe A&M beat Georgia with Herschel Walker, Auburn with Bo Jackson, and Notre Dame with Tim Brown. We beat Texas regularly. We had an entire class come through A&M who never lost to Texas. We had good teams. We beat good teams. 9-2 or 8-3 every year. An occasional appearance in the top 5. Regularly in the top 15. Yeah, A&M used to be good.

Only time you played Gerogia with Walker..the Bulldogs won 43-0

[AggieJohn]

Originally posted by District303aPastPlayer
how do you think that A&M is feeling right now about losing one of their better QB recruits in Drew Tate 4 years ago? they lost him because they got rid of R.C. not because of their record. tate's father was on track to come on r.c.'s staff as the qb's coach while drew was there, but when r.c. got the boot, tate looked other places.....but never texas:D

[wedo]

Originally posted by AggieJohn
they lost him because they got rid of R.C. not because of their record. tate's father was on track to come on r.c.'s staff as the qb's coach while drew was there, but when r.c. got the boot, tate looked other places.....but never texas:D

Geez am i glad he didn't come to Texas!!! Instead we got the best college QB to ever play!!!!!!!!!!! You now his name!!!!

[AggieJohn]

actually vince camethe year before drew, there for instead of screwing up and losing to tOSU a few weeks ago because you had an inexperienced QB, you might of had a possible heisman candidate in the wing after the immaculate vince young

[sahen]

Originally posted by crabman
Mid to late 80's. Right after I graduated.

not to be an arse, but that was sherrill's years....yall were cheating big time then....

[wedo]

Originally posted by AggieJohn
actually vince camethe year before drew, there for instead of screwing up and losing to tOSU a few weeks ago because you had an inexperienced QB, you might of had a possible heisman candidate in the wing after the immaculate vince young

True Vince came the year before but remember he got redshirted !!! He was only a junior last year !!! Every Team in the country would be shi##ing bricks right now if he would have stayed for his senior year!!!!

[Old Tiger]

We could of had Ryan Perilloux too.

[AggieJohn]

Originally posted by sahen
not to be an arse, but that was sherrill's years....yall were cheating big time then.... eh, not big time

[AggieJohn]

Originally posted by Tiger WR
We could of had Ryan Perilloux too. yeah, but he saw the light too....and then LSU saw how crappy a team mate he was....which makes texas the winner.....crap!!!:mad:

[Old Tiger]

muahahahhahahaha! lol


We could of had Xavier Lee

It's tough to recruit a QB when they come on visits and saw how good VY was.

[g$$]

1st, Bobby Ross is a good coach, but he did NOT win a Super Bowl while in San Diego (lost to SF I believe). He did share a MNC while at Ga Tech.

2nd, as an Aggie grad I am embarrassed, disgusted, frustrated, etc. at the state of the football program. This is Fran's 4th year & he is out of excuses. To see him & others jumping around after that narrow escape made me sick to my stomach. $8 million & now 19-19 overall says it all.

3rd, A&M's offense is ok & McGee / Lane can play. The defense is brutal, lacks playmakers, speed, & passion. They cannot stop running water. It is an exact reversal of the Wrecking Crew days - now the best athletes all play offense for the most part.

4th, you will get no excuses from me. A&M has been good in the past & the infrastructure (facilities, funding, alumni, resources) is there to be a Top 20 program. To cry cheating because A&M beat Texas 10/11 times from '84-'94 is weak. This regime is a joke & Fran must go & take his old buddy Darnell (fired at Texas, Notre Dame, & Western Michigan) with him.

5th, when does basketball start? When did you think an Aggie would ask that question? Football & baseball, once our staples, are bringing down the rest of the program.

I thought they could win 8, maybe 9 games this year. Now I say maybe 6 unless something crazy happens (easy non-Big 12 schedule). The truth hurts right now. Again, no excuses & there is no such thing as moral victories. Bill Byrne needs to pull the plug NOW like Texas did with McWilliams & Mackovic years ago. He does not fit @ A&M & coaches in this state hate him. When you are pompous & arrogant, that's what you get. Fran = Fraud

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by crabman
Mid to late 80's. Right after I graduated.

As long as my memory is not failing me, I believe A&M beat Georgia with Herschel Walker, Auburn with Bo Jackson, and Notre Dame with Tim Brown. We beat Texas regularly. We had an entire class come through A&M who never lost to Texas. We had good teams. We beat good teams. 9-2 or 8-3 every year. An occasional appearance in the top 5. Regularly in the top 15. Yeah, A&M used to be good.
Actually, A&M's best years were in the early 90's. Went undefeated in 1994. Didn't finish lower than ninth from '92-'94, was only left out of the top 20 once from '85-'95, and twice from '85-'98. They were the big dogs on the block during that time frame. From kindergarten through my first year of college, I hated TAMU because they were the guys who were cocky about everything.

It's crazy how six years changes everything.

[big daddy russ]

Back to the game, Franchione needs to go. I did some compiling before the season (I wish I could find those notes), and figured out who's had the best recruiting classes over the last four years based on Rivals' and Scout.com's rankings. I counted up all the five-stars, four-stars, three-star prospects, etc, and gave the teams rankings based on the same basic formula that Rivals uses.

Despite all their troubles, A&M finished ninth.

That kind of talent doesn't just disappear. It's still on the team. There's more talent in the defensive backfield than they'd lead you to believe, and the defensive line is one of the most talented in the nation.

Do you remember how Brady Quinn went from being an afterthought back in 2004 to a frontrunner for the Heisman last year when Weis arrived? How about Chris Leak when Meyer stepped foot in Gainesville? And what about that Texas defense when Greg Robinson got there?

A&M has more than enough talent to be competing for a national championship year-in, year-out. Auburn's been doing it with the 15th-ranked group of prospects over that same time frame. The Ags have just hit a wall and for the first time since he got to College Station, I'll say that it's time to get Fran out of there.

I wonder if Mike Price will be around after this year?

[Phil C]

Originally posted by Old Dog
I've been an Aggie fan for over 50 years and I can't describe the absolute wretched feeling I have about Fran and his whole staff.

Hey the Aggies won.

[Phil C]

Originally posted by g$$
1st, Bobby Ross is a good coach, but he did NOT win a Super Bowl while in San Diego (lost to SF I believe). He did share a MNC while at Ga Tech.

2nd, as an Aggie grad I am embarrassed, disgusted, frustrated, etc. at the state of the football program. This is Fran's 4th year & he is out of excuses. To see him & others jumping around after that narrow escape made me sick to my stomach. $8 million & now 19-19 overall says it all.

3rd, A&M's offense is ok & McGee / Lane can play. The defense is brutal, lacks playmakers, speed, & passion. They cannot stop running water. It is an exact reversal of the Wrecking Crew days - now the best athletes all play offense for the most part.

4th, you will get no excuses from me. A&M has been good in the past & the infrastructure (facilities, funding, alumni, resources) is there to be a Top 20 program. To cry cheating because A&M beat Texas 10/11 times from '84-'94 is weak. This regime is a joke & Fran must go & take his old buddy Darnell (fired at Texas, Notre Dame, & Western Michigan) with him.

5th, when does basketball start? When did you think an Aggie would ask that question? Football & baseball, once our staples, are bringing down the rest of the program.

I thought they could win 8, maybe 9 games this year. Now I say maybe 6 unless something crazy happens (easy non-Big 12 schedule). The truth hurts right now. Again, no excuses & there is no such thing as moral victories. Bill Byrne needs to pull the plug NOW like Texas did with McWilliams & Mackovic years ago. He does not fit @ A&M & coaches in this state hate him. When you are pompous & arrogant, that's what you get. Fran = Fraud

Don't forget the Lady Aggies are playing soccer right now and they have a good team.

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Great post Russ. I hope some people read it. A&M recruiting has been good enough to compete, no doubt, but I question the guys on defense (esp. LB play). It is time to play true freshman Anthony Lewis & RS freshman Paul Freeney, maybe others, in an attempt to get more speed & athleticism on the field. I think Warren is better suited as a rush end like he played as a freshman. Jack needs to move inside. I like Harrington. Secondary - ugh. Devin Gregg can play & then it's dicey. Jordan Peterson looks like an athlete. Darnell was a bad hire, period. He was hired for one reason. He & Fran go way back in the coaching circles & Fran can put him under his thumb. Fran does not want young, vibrant coaches who may have fresh ideas.

Ok, I am frustrated. Hope for the best I guess. And please for the love of God allow McGee to throw the ball & use his skills other than just running the option. He can do more if they turn him loose.