Does something happen on the anniversary of 9/11?

[AggieJohn]

I don't mean to be insensitive on this day, I just wanted to know do you think that something happens today with it being the anniversary of 9/11.

God, I hope not.

History goes that nothing really happens on anniversaries. But it kind of makes me scared.

[Hupernikomen]

Originally posted by AggieJohn
I don't mean to be insensitive on this day, I just wanted to know do you think that something happens today with it being the anniversary of 9/11.

God, I hope not.

History goes that nothing really happens on anniversaries. But it kind of makes me scared.

Obviously that history hasn't heard of the 9th of Av.

And instead of wondering if something bad will happen today I will be remembering those who are in harm's way today to protect our country from bad. God bless those families affected by 9/11 today and 5 years ago.

[pirate44]

i was really hoping this thread wouldnt be made and didnt reply till now. at 8:46 (this morning our office building (Charter Bank Building) fire alarm went off. we didnt know if it was an actual fire or a drill. there was no smoke or burning smell. we walked out of the building and ran into the building manager and bank president. they both said they didnt know what it was and that it was not a drill. they gave us the clear to come back in. i looked up the time that the first plane hit the WTC 5 years ago and it was the exact time our alarm jsut went off. it gave me chills a little. but a little while later, the alarm went off again. at that moment i looked at the wall clock. it wasnt the time the 2nd plane hit the WTC, but when i looked at the clock on my computer, it said 9:03. that WAS the time of the 2nd plane.

[AggieJohn]

i honestly dont' mean to be a jerk about this, i just am wondering if something happens

[shankbear]

If something does happen it will show that we are facing a very determined enemy. We must not be hamstrung and not allowed to use whatever legitimate tools are available to us to defeat this ruthless enemy. They intentionally kill innocent people. They do not distinguish between adults or kids. Military or civilian. Jew, Muslim, Christian or any other. They kill out of hate. Such a religion of peace. They send their children into crowds with bombs strapped to their bodies. More like a religion of pieces.

[pirate44]

Originally posted by AggieJohn
i honestly dont' mean to be a jerk about this, i just am wondering if something happens
its a natural curiosity i guess.

[AggieJohn]

Originally posted by pirate44
its a natural curiosity i guess. that's the best way to put it.......

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by AggieJohn
i honestly dont' mean to be a jerk about this, i just am wondering if something happens actually there rhetoric as of late seems to be more intent on bringing economic collapse rather then direct assault in the US. that zawahiri guy keeps encouraging attacks on mideast countries complicit with the US such as Saudia arabia, kuwait etc. for providing us oil. logically they'll attack there and of course they throw Israel into the mix as a rallying cry for all muslims, standard operating procedure for a jihadi! Now, homegrown terrorists, thats a whole other story!

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by DDBooger
actually there rhetoric as of late seems to be more intent on bringing economic collapse rather then direct assault in the US. that zawahiri guy keeps encouraging attacks on mideast countries complicit with the US such as Saudia arabia, kuwait etc. for providing us oil. logically they'll attack there and of course they throw Israel into the mix as a rallying cry for all muslims, standard operating procedure for a jihadi! Now, homegrown terrorists, thats a whole other story!

Please...enlighten us with your great wisdom about the practices of Islamic fundamentalism. It sounds like you have all the facts...why don't you provide some? :thinking:

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
Please...enlighten us with your great wisdom about the practices of Islamic fundamentalism. It sounds like you have all the facts...why don't you provide some? :thinking: lol are you threatened by it? do your own homework man, its simple. or would you like me to right a dissertation as we speak?

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by DDBooger
lol are you threatened by it? do your own homework man, its simple. or would you like me to right a dissertation as we speak?

You're the one making the statements...support your statements. You were doing it last night and again this morning...statements with no substance. That's all I was asking for.

3ADL Rule #4


4). Use intelligence and wit.
This is not a smack site. If all you have to offer is the tired old rah rah stuff, the vets on this site will tire of you quickly. Be prepared to offer facts and statistics to back up your claims.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
You're the one making the statements...support your statements. You were doing it last night and again this morning...statements with no substance. That's all I was asking for.

3ADL Rule #4 well regarding there intentions its simple, just read the newspaper or any news org.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14780458/

regarding prodedure for jihadis...with islam divided just as broadly as christianity it is hard for sunni's and shia' to unite. al queda is generally a sunni backed organization. the shia' are frowned upon by this sect. shia' are seen almost as heretics. when sunni's or al queda to be exact use Israel as a target, it generally is a branch olive to unite all muslims. up until zarqawi's death a feud was brewing between the shia backed org. of hezbollah(sworn enemy of israel) and zarqawi's org. AQ! remember in Iraq AQ(al queda) is fueling fire between the sects by backing sunni militia and acts of terrorism in shia dominated areas.

as far as old timers tiring of me, throw me out if I do, I won't change my methods unless I get a genuine request. you formed yours with the intent of insulting me, with the old wise one stuff and insinuating my statements as baseless rhetoric. all you had to do was say "Explain" plus i don't know where yalls rules are i may decide to read em:p

[Adidas410s]

regarding your thoughts on AQ seeking economic collapse...I'm not certain that they would be able to accomplish that without imposing force upon America. While obviously they can go a long way to control the supply of oil from countries such as Iran...there is always the problem of Saudi Arabia. The US and other countries have a significant amount of economic influence with the Saudis. The reason I say this is because, in exchange for helping move Saudi Arabia towards a 1st world country, the US worked with the World Bank and other international companies to extend the necessary financing to the Saudis for them to finance their oil exploration. They have so much debt that they have tied up through various financial istitutions that they cannot afford to pull their supply off the market. The same scenarios also exist in countries such as Panama, Venezuela, Ecuador, and many others throughout S America, the Middle East, and Asia.

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by DDBooger
as far as old timers tiring of me, throw me out if I do, I won't change my methods unless I get a genuine request. you formed yours with the intent of insulting me, with the old wise one stuff and insinuating my statements as baseless rhetoric. all you had to do was say "Explain" plus i don't know where yalls rules are i may decide to read em:p

You can find the DL rules at the top right of your screen. There is a button like this:

http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/images/top_rules.gif

Don't consider it a personal attack against you when somebody (I'm usually one of the first) questions you to back up your statements. As many others will attest to, I'll have a discussion with anybody on a wide range of topics...but I'm very fact oriented instead of opinion-based. You would be surprised how many people come on here and rant and rave about topics...but when asked to substantiate their claims they aren't able to do so at all. Don't consider it a threat...consider it a test.

Oh and i don't consider myself an "old timer." Yes...I've been on the downlow for many moons...but I'm only in my 20's! Though after 5+ hrs of tennis yesterday I sure feel a lot older...

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
regarding your thoughts on AQ seeking economic collapse...I'm not certain that they would be able to accomplish that without imposing force upon America. While obviously they can go a long way to control the supply of oil from countries such as Iran...there is always the problem of Saudi Arabia. The US and other countries have a significant amount of economic influence with the Saudis. The reason I say this is because, in exchange for helping move Saudi Arabia towards a 1st world country, the US worked with the World Bank and other international companies to extend the necessary financing to the Saudis for them to finance their oil exploration. They have so much debt that they have tied up through various financial istitutions that they cannot afford to pull their supply off the market. The same scenarios also exist in countries such as Panama, Venezuela, Ecuador, and many others throughout S America, the Middle East, and Asia. i entirely agree with that, you are correct, but I didn't mean voluntarily. crippling america's oil supply in their minds won't be done by choice, they know that the sheiks and OPEC need us to feed the beast. Terrorist attacks on the oil infrastructure in these countries would be devastating. mere threats raise the price of oil. when Iran steps up its rhetoric, gas prices rise. now imagine if Saudia arabia suffered a catastrophic attack on its production line. same for kuwait. they hear the groans of the american public over 3 dollar a gallon for gas, should anything happen to those countries ability to produce oil, 3 dollars a gallon may seem like a gift!

[Bullaholic]

Addidas....How did I know you and DDbooger would "find" each other? :D A "debating" marriage made in heaven......

Sorry AJ ---Didn't mean to take this thread off topic.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
You can find the DL rules at the top right of your screen. There is a button like this:

http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/images/top_rules.gif

Don't consider it a personal attack against you when somebody (I'm usually one of the first) questions you to back up your statements. As many others will attest to, I'll have a discussion with anybody on a wide range of topics...but I'm very fact oriented instead of opinion-based. You would be surprised how many people come on here and rant and rave about topics...but when asked to substantiate their claims they aren't able to do so at all. Don't consider it a threat...consider it a test.

Oh and i don't consider myself an "old timer." Yes...I've been on the downlow for many moons...but I'm only in my 20's! Though after 5+ hrs of tennis yesterday I sure feel a lot older... well i love tests and don't consider me a newcomer who wants to shake the bush and leave. i'll back it up, i just tire of typing sometimes and get lazy, appreciate your reprieve!

[Technoredneck]

You are overlooking the fact that $3 gasoline is not just caused by a problem in oil production. A even larger problem exists right here in this country's ability to procuce gasoline with that oil. Too many regulations and too many MIMBYs have resulted in a serious shortage in refining capability that is only recently be addressed by changing archaic environmental laws. The timeframe to get a permit to allow for the building of a refinery has gotten so out of hand that most companies refuse to invest their money in such a risky venture. Reliance must be built at home not abroad. Just like a football team, the offense has to do their part without worrying about whether the defense will do their's.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Technoredneck
You are overlooking the fact that $3 gasoline is not just caused by a problem in oil production. no im not, i didn't state that terrorism is the only cause for rise in gasoline, but geo-political issues do contort the prices. you need oil to refine dont you? Refinement policies won't matter if SA and Kuwait are crippled. OPEC can make up for some shortages but not from those countries.

[Technoredneck]

Originally posted by DDBooger
no im not, i didn't state that terrorism is the only cause for rise in gasoline, but geo-political issues do contort the prices. you need oil to refine dont you? Refinement policies won't matter if SA and Kuwait are crippled. OPEC can make up for some shortages but not from those countries.

Frankly I'm a little surprised that someone in Texas doesn't have a little better handle on the Oil Business. Perhaps you should do a little research on oil production capabilities before you spread gloom and doom.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Technoredneck
Frankly I'm a little surprised that someone in Texas doesn't have a little better handle on the Oil Business. Perhaps you should do a little research on oil production capabilities before you spread gloom and doom. haha ok partner, 1. i never claimed to be a oil specialist. 2. what i know is inconsequential to the argument that losing those coutries as suppliers would hurt the world's market.
3. i hate to quote to you rule 3 i think that adidas quoted to me but all you did in this statement was question my knowledge with no backing on why losing SA or Kuwait would NOT have an effect on us. Perhaps your knowledge of oil production has clouded your knowledge of geo-political conditions. as far as being from Texas, well basing your opinion of me on my geography is rather prejudice and speaks volumes of your level of thinking!

[Technoredneck]

You're right about a rules violation. But it was not 3 it was 5. I should not have let myself be drawn into a political debate, which is what this has become. So I will withdraw from this thread.

[DDBooger]

"Political topics involving American political parties and their current candidates for office and religious topics are forbidden."
I think we are safe, none of these were topics.

Im done too! PEACE!