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piratebg
05-30-2006, 12:08 PM
Pedophiles to launch political party 3 minutes ago



AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and the legalization of child pornography and sex with animals, sparking widespread outrage.

The Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD) party said on its Web site it would be officially registered Wednesday, proclaiming: "We are going to shake The Hague awake!"

The party said it wanted to cut the legal age for sexual relations to 12 and eventually scrap the limit altogether.

"A ban just makes children curious," Ad van den Berg, one of the party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper.

"We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion," he said, adding the subject had been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child abuse scandal in neighboring Belgium.

"We want to get into parliament so we have a voice. Other politicians only talk about us in a negative sense, as if we were criminals," Van den Berg told Reuters.

The Netherlands, which already has liberal policies on soft drugs, prostitution and gay marriage, was shocked by the plan.

An opinion poll published Tuesday showed that 82 percent wanted the government to do something to stop the new party, while 67 percent said promoting pedophilia should be illegal.

"They make out as if they want more rights for children. But their position that children should be allowed sexual contact from age 12 is of course just in their own interest," anti-pedophile campaigner Ireen van Engelen told the AD daily.

Right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders said he had asked the government to investigate whether a party with such "sick ideas" could really be established, ANP news agency reported.

Kees van deer Staaij, a member of the Christian SGP party, also demanded action: "Pedophilia and child pornography should be taboo in every constitutional state. Breaking that will just create more victims and more serious ones."

The party wants private possession of child pornography to be allowed although it supports the ban on the trade of such materials. It also supports allowing pornography to be broadcast on daytime television, with only violent pornography limited to the late evening.

Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves. Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal, the NVD said.

The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public and promotes legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train travel for all.

Maroon87
05-30-2006, 12:12 PM
Who's gonna be on their ticket, Michael Jackson and Gary Glitter?:p

spiveyrat
05-30-2006, 12:21 PM
Ironic that there was another thread discussing Sodom and Gemorrah this morning... :thinking:

sinton66
05-30-2006, 12:26 PM
"We want to get into parliament so we have a voice. Other politicians only talk about us in a negative sense, as if we were criminals," Van den Berg told Reuters.

The Netherlands, which already has liberal policies on soft drugs, prostitution and gay marriage, was shocked by the plan.

Well, DUH!!!!!!. See what happens when you head down that slippery slope?

Adidas410s
05-30-2006, 01:01 PM
I'm speechless to this one. I don't know if there is a "good response" that can be made.

vet93
05-30-2006, 01:11 PM
Folks..."we" are the Netherlands 20 years ago. The same policies and ideals that we are being forced to tolerate now were put into action in the Netherlands a couple of decades ago. Sinton 66 is correct when he mentioned a slippery slope...our country is on the banana peel right now. What type of legacy will we leave to our children?

Bullaholic
05-30-2006, 02:11 PM
I agree with Sinton 66 and Vet93. If we (the current adult generation), do not try to preserve some personal moral values in our society, we will go down that slippery "moral" slope into the "sewer".

I am not concerned that a handful of perverts (by anyone's definition) are trying to get their way with sexual practices in Holland . We have the same kinds of groups running around in America everyday who would advocate similar legislation---just look at some groups in San Francisco. If the majority of the Dutch electorate passes these measures, then their nation should suffer the consequences of international criticism and shame which will surely follow. I bet that these measures never make it into Dutch law.

Aesculus gilmus
05-30-2006, 02:47 PM
Wasn't there some Islamic guy who murdered a prominent gay Dutch politician a year or two ago? So why did everyone take the Dutch guy's side? Don't the Dutch deserve to be destroyed because of their overly permissive society? Isn't that what we are agreeing upon here?

Might need to rethink the whole "war on terror" idea also, by this logic.

I just did a search and found out that the Dutch politician I was thinking about was actually murdered by an "animal rights activist" and not a Muslim. The Muslims murdered someone named Van Gogh in Holland, who was a descendant of the famous 19th century painter.

mistanice
05-30-2006, 02:53 PM
NAMBLA !!!

The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a New York City and San Francisco-based unincorporated organization that opposes the use of age as the sole criterion for deciding whether minors can legally engage in sexual relations. NAMBLA defends what it asserts to be the right of minors to explore their sexuality on a much freer basis.

Bandera YaYa
05-30-2006, 03:05 PM
Funny, it was in the news that Michael Jackson made his first public appearance in Toyko recently......at an orphanage. Seems he just can't stay away from little kids! Geezzzzzzzzzzzz...... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

SintonFan
05-30-2006, 03:10 PM
I agree completely with 66, vet93 and Bull! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Maroon87
05-30-2006, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by piratebg
Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and the legalization of child pornography and sex with animals

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