Sweetwater's projected starters at this point.

[Sweetwater Red]

OFFENSE:
QB-D. Cunnings
RB-J. Banyard
RB-S. Green
FB-A. Davis
WR-K.Wallace,B. Boyd
TE-J. Adames and others
LT-M. May
LG-J. Straley
C-J. Beckwith
RG-S. Raines
RT-C. Strother

DEFENSE:
LE-J. Straley
DT-B. Bugarin
DT-A. Salazar
RE-K. Adames
OLB-M. Rosas
MLB-J. Adames
OLB-R. McCann
CB-J. McCoy
CB-J. Rodriguez
SS-J. Banyard
FS-T. Holsey

Source: A little bird told me....:D

[shadow13]

I know some people will get offended by what I'm going to say,but that lineup is not very strong. We better get some more receivers to go along with the 2 mentioned, because if we are going to go deep into the playoffs we will have to throw the ball alot this year.And our secondary will be very much tested with the pass, not to mention tackling our cornerbacks were very poor tacklers last year.Kendal and Pittman was all we had in the secondary and they are gone, I do believe Holsey will be a plus this year, but the others are suspect. The D-line and LB's will be fine, just a big ? in the secondary.

[Sweetwater Red]

Duone will be the QB and they don't
want to risk injury to him. What worries
me about the CB's is ...if you stacked them
up together...they wouldn't be taller than
Shaq:(. Not that being short is a bad
thing but, if the other team has a
"Giles Montgomery" split out wide... these
two will have their hands full.

[Macarthur]

Originally posted by shadow13
I know some people will get offended by what I'm going to say,but that lineup is not very strong. We better get some more receivers to go along with the 2 mentioned, because if we are going to go deep into the playoffs we will have to throw the ball alot this year.And our secondary will be very much tested with the pass, not to mention tackling our cornerbacks were very poor tacklers last year.Kendal and Pittman was all we had in the secondary and they are gone, I do believe Holsey will be a plus this year, but the others are suspect. The D-line and LB's will be fine, just a big ? in the secondary.

You're not going to offend me because I couldn't give a flying rip.

:)

[Sweetwater Red]

Why did you even read the thread then
you Richard??? Let alone bother to post
on it...:mad:

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Duone will be the QB and they don't
want to risk injury to him. What worries
me about the CB's is ...if you stacked them
up together...they wouldn't be taller than
Shaq:(. Not that being short is a bad
thing but, if the other team has a
"Giles Montgomery" split out wide... these
two will have their hands full. maybe they can make up for their size by being better tacklers after the catch

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Why did you even read the thread then
you Richard??? Let alone bother to post
on it...:mad: no joke!:thinking:

[shadow13]

If we can stay healthy, we should be just fine, just a little worried about the secondary, with the exception of Holsey ,he will be fine at FS.

[Macarthur]

Man, the offseason sure is long. :p

[Sweetwater Red]

I watched alot of J.V. games last year.
Boyd and Holsey looked pretty solid on
both sides of the ball. Boyd will catch the
most passes probably at WR. But, the
load will once again fall on Joseph, Skye,
and Auston.

[shadow13]

I agree, but we need at least 4 WR's to throw to every game to keep the opponents off balanced.

[shadow13]

I believe Teams will stack the line and commit to stopping the run first, as good as our running backs are,it won't take a great team to shut us down.

[TheDOCTORdre]

year after year, we get to a certain point in the offseason and someone brings it up every year, "sweetwater's gonna have to throw it a lot more to get deep into the playoffs" and year after year, it never really seems to matter. I do agree with the secondary being an area of concern, but if the front line can keep constant pressue on the QB in passing situations it wont be to big of a problem.

[shadow13]

I don't know what people say year in and year out, but the reason I said they need to throw, because it's deep in the playoffs when we play good teams. west texas football is not that great and the competiton level is very average to say the least. Sweetwater has been very fortunate to have better athletes in this area, but as soon as they play a team equal to them they come up on the losing side. Snyder was not a good team last year regardless of what some may think.Wylie on the other hands was they shut down the run and good teams will be able to shut down a 1 diminsional offense. Try looking at the competiton your team is playing and that will tell you what kind of team you have. Let's talk again after the first 4 or 5 games of the season. Don't take this wrong I believe we can win all of those games I'm just trying to prove a point on why we need to pass more. The schedule we have this year is nothing like in the passed where we don't have to play until we meet Wylie or Snyder.

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by shadow13
I believe Teams will stack the line and commit to stopping the run first, as good as our running backs are,it won't take a great team to shut us down.

Tatum won state. If it weren't for all
those missed opportunities in the first
half of our Semi-final game. The score
would have been alot closer than 32-19.
Our problem in the second half was we
couldn't stop them. But, I don't see
where having a passing game would've
helped.

[STANG RED]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Tatum won state. If it weren't for all
those missed opportunities in the first
half of our Semi-final game. The score
would have been alot closer than 32-19.
Our problem in the second half was we
couldn't stop them. But, I don't see
where having a passing game would've
helped.

Because having a decent passing game opens up the running game, and vice versa. If you cant keep the DBs and LBs honest by making them at least take a step or two back, all they have to do is crash the line and bottle up the run. Didnt you see all the 8, 9, and even 10 men fronts we faced last year, because they knew they didnt have to respect the pass? We beat teams on pure athletics, because there was no doubt about what we were going to do.

[Sweetwater Red]

Well, given our "cream puff" schedule of
the last few years...we haven't HAD to
pass to win. But, our schedule over the
next two years might force us to
have to throw early and often.

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Well, given our "cream puff" schedule of
the last few years...we haven't HAD to
pass to win. But, our schedule over the
next two years might force us to
have to throw early and often.
Hummmmmmm, seem like that contradicts what you posted just above. So does that mean Tatum was a cream puff.:thinking: :thinking:

[zeus63]

Jeez, if Tatum were cream puffs, I'd sure hate to see what you consider to be a formidable opponent.

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by DaHop72
Hummmmmmm, seem like that contradicts what you posted just above. So does that mean Tatum was a cream puff.:thinking: :thinking:

I'm sorry. I meant the regular season
schedule. Out of 10 games, Snyder and
Wylie were the only quality opponents.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by zeus63
Jeez, if Tatum were cream puffs, I'd sure hate to see what you consider to be a formidable opponent.

I know he is referring to Greenwood, for one.......:weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
I know he is referring to Greenwood, for one.......:weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

Greenwood has a classy program. They
were just down last year. They'll be back.
No, I'm not sucking up cuz you're a mod.
either:D

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Greenwood has a classy program. They
were just down last year. They'll be back.
No, I'm not sucking up cuz you're a mod.
either:D

I saw where our Coach (Taylor) and ex-coach (Purser) both put in for the San Angelo job!

I hope we have a coach when football starts!!!:eek: :eek:

[Sweetwater Red]

Central or Lakeview ???

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Central or Lakeview ???

I don't remember.....

are they BOTH open??

[Sweetwater Red]

I don't know. But, the 5A Central job
would be much better than the 4A
Lakeview job. I don't think Lakeview has
ever been successful in football, that I can
remember anyway. Not to mention the
pay would be alot higher.

[Ranger Mom]

I just looked at the article, it's San Angelo Central!

[Sweetwater Red]

I guess he's gotta feed his family too. I
know there would be a big salary increase
going from 3A to 5A. Not to mention the
exposure for more lucrative job opportunities.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Tatum won state. If it weren't for all
those missed opportunities in the first
half of our Semi-final game. The score
would have been alot closer than 32-19.
Our problem in the second half was we
couldn't stop them. But, I don't see
where having a passing game would've
helped. Let's not forget all the missed opportunities Tatum had too, the score could have been alot worse. My point is every football game from peewee to the pros have missed opportunities,so you have to find the opponents weak spot to overcome those mishaps, and Tatum done that in the second half.Did you go to the game,didn't you see those 11 guys dig in and bull rushed straight ahead on nearly every play in the second half, I think if we would have passed more in the 1st half they would have had to play a little different.

[Sweetwater Red]

The way I sum-up that game is this.

Sweetwater had one Joseph Banyard.
Tatum had six Joseph Banyards.
Not knocking any other Mustang but do
you get my point.

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
The way I sum-up that game is this.

Sweetwater had one Joseph Banyard.
Tatum had six Joseph Banyards.
Not knocking any other Mustang but do
you get my point.

there is only ONE joseph banyard:D

they had alot of great runningbacks tho haha

what makes me mad is that we didnt pass when i was playing...and when they did it was to only 2 certain receivers, when we had 4-5 that all had good hands....gotta love them politics:(

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
The way I sum-up that game is this.

Sweetwater had one Joseph Banyard.
Tatum had six Joseph Banyards.
Not knocking any other Mustang but do
you get my point. Joseph Banyard: 173- 1288 - 23td
Skye Green : 126- 1241 - 22td
47 more carries,what would Skye have done with those 47 carries, alot more than 47 yards. And think about it What would Joseph do without the opposing team worrying about keeping Skye from breaking loose on them. Take Skye out of the offense and see what happens. GET MY POINT !

[Sweetwater Red]

By naming Banyard, I was refering to
a strong athlete that hits as hard when
he's carrying the ball as he does when
he's on defense. Joseph is the only one
on our team that did that last year.
Tatum had about 6 guys going both ways
and all hit hard on both sides of the ball.
That is what I was saying. There is no
doubt when Skye makes the corner, he is
gone. But, how many players from the
other team has he sent to their side-line?
Did you see what Joseph did to that kid
from Lubbock Cooper when he tried to
tackle JB? He lowered his shoulder and
hit that kid straight in the chest. That kid
flopped around on the field like a fish
outta water. Did you see the way he
tackled that Snyder Tiger after Skye
fumbled. Joseph ran him down, got in front
of him and slammed him to the ground. To
Skye's credit he was only a step behind
and closing in when JB put the hurt on
him.

[shadow13]

2 YEAR STATS

Joseph Banyard: 351- 1971 - 5.6 avg. - 34 td's

Skye Green : 183- 1830 -10.0 avg. - 28 td's

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
By naming Banyard, I was refering to
a strong athlete that hits as hard when
he's carrying the ball as he does when
he's on defense. Joseph is the only one
on our team that did that last year.
Tatum had about 6 guys going both ways
and all hit hard on both sides of the ball.
That is what I was saying. There is no
doubt when Skye makes the corner, he is
gone. But, how many players from the
other team has he sent to their side-line?
Did you see what Joseph did to that kid
from Lubbock Cooper when he tried to
tackle JB? He lowered his shoulder and
hit that kid straight in the chest. That kid
flopped around on the field like a fish
outta water. Did you see the way he
tackled that Snyder Tiger after Skye
fumbled. Joseph ran him down, got in front
of him and slammed him to the ground. To
Skye's credit he was only a step behind
and closing in when JB put the hurt on
him.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
By naming Banyard, I was refering to
a strong athlete that hits as hard when
he's carrying the ball as he does when
he's on defense. Joseph is the only one
on our team that did that last year.
Tatum had about 6 guys going both ways
and all hit hard on both sides of the ball.
That is what I was saying. There is no
doubt when Skye makes the corner, he is
gone. But, how many players from the
other team has he sent to their side-line?
Did you see what Joseph did to that kid
from Lubbock Cooper when he tried to
tackle JB? He lowered his shoulder and
hit that kid straight in the chest. That kid
flopped around on the field like a fish
outta water. Did you see the way he
tackled that Snyder Tiger after Skye
fumbled. Joseph ran him down, got in front
of him and slammed him to the ground. To
Skye's credit he was only a step behind
and closing in when JB put the hurt on
him. So you are saying that Justin Adames, Russell Clayton Brandon Fangman ,Kendal Carrillo, Rufus McCann, and Brandon Bugarin can not hit as hard as Joseph. Just how big was those kids that he ran over, any LB'S OR LINEMAN

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
The way I sum-up that game is this.

Sweetwater had one Joseph Banyard.
Tatum had six Joseph Banyards.
Not knocking any other Mustang but do
you get my point. :thinking:

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by shadow13
So you are saying that Justin Adames, Russell Clayton Brandon Fangman ,Kendal Carrillo, Rufus McCann, and Brandon Bugarin can not hit as hard as Joseph. Just how big was those kids that he ran over, any LB'S OR LINEMAN

The key phrase is "Both sides of the ball".
Yes all those kids hit hard. But, all six you
mentioned played defense only except for
Clayton.
I am interested to see how Adames does
at TE. I hope playing on offense doesn't
wear him out on defense.

[shadow13]

DId Tatum have 6 guys running the ball? and which do you think college coaches prefer. running over somebody or making a move to afford a direct hit, out in the open field. I'm willing to bet Texas coaches would tell Jamaal Charles to protect himself from that direct hit out in the open field.

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by shadow13
DId Tatum have 6 guys running the ball? and which do you think college coaches prefer. running over somebody or making a move to afford a direct hit, out in the open field. I'm willing to bet Texas coaches would tell Jamaal Charles to protect himself from that direct hit out in the open field.

Check your PM's.

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by mustang04
what makes me mad is that we didnt pass when i was playing...and when they did it was to only 2 certain receivers, when we had 4-5 that all had good hands....gotta love them politics:(
are you trying to compare yourself to the 2 we threw it too?

[Tiger Baseball]

Originally posted by shadow13
Snyder was not a good team last year regardless of what some may think. The schedule we have this year is nothing like in the passed where we don't have to play until we meet Wylie or Snyder. :thinking: not a good team, but you didn't have to play until you met Snyder. shadow13 you are a Richard:evil: :tongue:

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Tiger Baseball
:thinking: not a good team, but you didn't have to play until you met Snyder. shadow13 you are a Richard:evil: :tongue: We beat your guys with a 3rd string QB and most of the secondary were considered 2nd teamers. I know it's sad, but true you were not that good last yr.

[Tiger Baseball]

You are still a Richard!

[shadow13]

lol:hand:

[Ranger Mom]

WOW!! After reading this thread...it felt like the downlow again!!:D

[stangfan24]

Sweetwater Red, if Joesph Banyard is sooo good why wasnt he an 1st team All-State running back.

[Ranger Mom]

Never thought I would see the day when it was "Mustang vs. Mustang" on here.:eek:

[stangfan24]

Im sorry if I sound rude and all but, I just get soo sick of hearing Green and the mustangs or Banyard and the mustangs why cant it be a team thing, I do agree Banyard does his job but so does James Beckwith and any other linemen a team shouldnt be just narrowed down to one person at least not a team of 11.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by stangfan24
Im sorry if I sound rude and all but, I just get soo sick of hearing Green and the mustangs or Banyard and the mustangs why cant it be a team thing, I do agree Banyard does his job but so does James Beckwith and any other linemen a team shouldnt be just narrowed down to one person at least not a team of 11. Maybe all the Colleges and Pros should stop the media from highlighting the QB's, RB's and WR's whenever they pass for over 300 yds. and run and catch for over 100 yds a game and start putting the linemen in the papers and on espn for their blocks. That way all the people like yourself ,can be happy too.Of course a 5 yr. old watching a football game knows that you can't score without the help of your teammates.

[VWG]

Everybody is an armchair QB....
Jackson is a solid coach and his record proves that, even before he got to Sweetwater. Most coaches will stick to their offense. If they run the veer, wing-T, I formation, or similar run oriented offense then that's what you get.
If they spread it out 4 to 5 wide, QB in shotgun, etc... then that is what you get.
Pro-Style offense... etc..... Guys remember, trust your coaching staff. Jackson will do what is necessary to win games. He will play to the strengths of his team and to the weakness of his opponent.

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Originally posted by stangfan24
Im sorry if I sound rude and all but, I just get soo sick of hearing Green and the mustangs or Banyard and the mustangs why cant it be a team thing, I do agree Banyard does his job but so does James Beckwith and any other linemen a team shouldnt be just narrowed down to one person at least not a team of 11.

Because that is the way the way Sweetwater is. At least that is the way they have been in the past. I remember posting something about Sweetwater beening a selfish team earlier last season. They are more worried about their own stats instead playing as a team. No offense, but I can see that from certain posts on here. Sweetwater "should" be a good team next year, but I bet the fans will be very disappointed in the season. Only time will tell.

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
Because that is the way the way Sweetwater is. At least that is the way they have been in the past.
I dont know how far in the past you are reffering to and I can not defend any other Sweetwater team except the one I played on and that was in the '03 season. That team only cared about one stat and that was which team had more points at the end of the game, that team was a unit and played as one. I will not defend or attack another Sweetwater team because thats not for me to do, let their team speak for themselves or anyone else who thinks that they have the right too. Anyway I just thought I would throw that in there cuz I didnt like the generalizaton that all Sweetwater teams had been selfish in the past

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Never thought I would see the day when it was "Mustang vs. Mustang" on here.:eek:
GMTA! :eek: :D

[shadow13]

some of you people are a joke! no way have I seem any members of the Mustangs post about their stats are anything else concerning selfishness. I myself on the other hand , who is a armchair QB and Mustang Dad is guilty of that, not the team, so direct your comments toward me and leave the Team out of it.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by shadow13
some of you people are a joke! no way have I seem of members of the Mustangs post about their stats are anything else concerning selfishness. I myself on the other hand , who is a armchair QB and Mustang Dad is guilty of that, not the team, so direct your comments toward me and leave the Team out of it.

Does anyone from the team even post on here? I know back in the day when Mustang04 and TheDocterDre were playing, there were a few. I just can't think of ANY mustang player posters that we have had in quite a while actually!

We played Sweetwater for several years in a row, sometimes more than once, IMO, they always played as a team. I'm gonna miss those games!

[shadow13]

I know my son does not even read this message board and as far as I know neither does his friends.I don't even talk to him about what I read on here.

[stangGirl2007]

[i]

We played Sweetwater for several years in a row, sometimes more than once, IMO, they always played as a team. I'm gonna miss those games! [/B]


Aw.. me too!:(

[wildstangs]

Stats are nice...but they really arent important to the players. As someone mentioned earlier, the team only cares about winning. Jackson will have the boys ready to go and the TEAM will make a good showing next year.

Someone said that Sweetwater would be dissapointed next year...Well, only a few teams are fortunate enough to end their season happy.

[wildstangs]

Besides McCann and Burgarin, does anyone know if any other under classmen will be on the team next fall?

[TheDOCTORdre]

I dont see Sweetwater being too disappointed at the end of the year, because the way I see it they will be playing in the state championship game. Now you may just say "Dre you are being a homer" but to that I say with the exception of my senior year I have never came out and predicted a state appearance but I will be brave enough on this May 28th of the year 2006 to make This PROPHECY: Sweetwater will play in the state championship game this year. and I am not going on homer-ism I am making that statement based on a pattern.

03 Mustangs-3rd round
04 Mustangs-4th round (state quarterfinals)
05 Mustangs- 5th round (state semis)

which leads us to this years team-the 06 Mustangs will going 6 rounds deep to the state championship game

[smustangs]

Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
I dont know how far in the past you are reffering to and I can not defend any other Sweetwater team except the one I played on and that was in the '03 season. That team only cared about one stat and that was which team had more points at the end of the game, that team was a unit and played as one. I will not defend or attack another Sweetwater team because thats not for me to do, let their team speak for themselves or anyone else who thinks that they have the right too. Anyway I just thought I would throw that in there cuz I didnt like the generalizaton that all Sweetwater teams had been selfish in the past


i agree dre that was a great year man a lot of fun great team to be a part of

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by stangfan24
Sweetwater Red, if Joesph Banyard is sooo good why wasnt he an 1st team All-State running back.

I have never said he was even a D.1 prospect. I SAID I liked the way he
brought the wood on both sides of the ball.

[Sweetwater Red]

By under classmen, I take it you mean
sophomores and freshmen?
I'm hoping Kenneth Norman Jr. gets
some playing time next year on varsity.
Maybe not at the beginning of the
season but somewhere done the line.

[wildstangs]

Wow...I hope the little Norman is half as good as his father. And yes, I meant Freshman and sophomores.