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olddawggreen
04-21-2006, 10:56 AM
Article fro USA TODAY, 4/20/2006

DRIVERS CURB USE AS GAS GOES UP


CUTBACK COULD CUT PRICE AT THE PUMP


By James R. Healey, USA TODAY
Americans have cut back gasoline use in apparent response to increasing prices, separate surveys by the government and a petroleum trade organization showed Wednesday.
Gas use last month was 0.6% less than a year ago, the American Petroleum Institute reported, because "high fuel prices have led to decreased demand for gasoline and other refined oil products."

The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) said gasoline use the past four weeks was up a slight 0.8% vs. a year ago. Typical is an increase of 1.5%, and that's the growth rate assumed in many industry, analyst and government forecasts.

Cutting back just a little more could cause gasoline prices — which average $2.801 nationwide, up 57.7 cents from last year, according to motorist organization AAA — to drop dramatically, one veteran analyst says.

"If everyone decided to drive 3% less the next 30 days, prices would crash," says Tom Kloza, senior analyst at the Oil Price Information Service.

He doubts that Americans could manage that — "We know how well appeals to personal sacrifice work" — but still foresees less-than-normal growth in gasoline consumption this year.

"There's a point where it really hurts," he says. "There could be a little more carpooling, and there will be. It's approaching the point where that could happen."

Gasoline is made from oil, and oil prices are setting daily records this week, closing at $72.17 a barrel Wednesday, up 82 cents from Tuesday's close. Oil would have to top $86.99 to set an inflation-adjusted record.

Fuel conservation might be short-lived. For one thing, prices are likely to drop. EIA says, "Significant increases in gasoline production ... over the next several weeks should stem the rise in gasoline prices and may, actually, cause them to decline somewhat."

EIA says, "While the average U.S. price of regular gasoline could reach $3 per gallon sometime this year, that outcome is by no means a foregone conclusion."

History shows that as long as gasoline is available, at whatever price, Americans tend to adjust to the price and resume their previous driving habits.

"There's definitely some evidence of consumers adjusting," says Rakesh Shankar, an economist who watches energy for Moody's Economy.com.

Last time gasoline consumption dropped significantly was September, because of high prices and spot shortages caused by Hurricane Katrina's damage to energy operations in the Gulf of Mexico.

Demand continued to slide for a while after that, but it does so routinely in the fall and winter. So it's difficult to separate Katrina-sparked conservation from seasonal patterns.

Contributing: Barbara Hagenbaugh

Posted 4/20/2006 1:27 AM ET

Hmmm, another point of view from another expert.

:thinking: :D

olddawggreen
04-21-2006, 10:57 AM
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SintonFan
04-21-2006, 11:01 AM
"If everyone decided to drive 3% less the next 30 days, prices would crash," says Tom Kloza, senior analyst at the Oil Price Information Service.
He doubts that Americans could manage that — "We know how well appeals to personal sacrifice work" — but still foresees less-than-normal growth in gasoline consumption this year.
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I don't see why 3% isn't managable? For goodness sake tune up that car or truck, keep the tires inflated and 3% is easily attainable.:)
Doh! Then the price of spark plugs would go up wouldn't they.:( :doh:

GOFOR2
04-21-2006, 11:12 AM
prices will only go down in the short term.
the only way to cut down fuel costs in the long term is to find an alternate source for autos or find an alternate means of transportation.

SintonFan
04-21-2006, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by GOFOR2
prices will only go down in the short term.
the only way to cut down fuel costs in the long term is to find an alternate source for autos or find an alternate means of transportation.
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Propane at less than $2 a gallon is a great alternative but those conversions make it impossible to most folks.
Unfortunately, if propane use goes up dramatically, it too would rise sharply.

olddawggreen
04-21-2006, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by GOFOR2
prices will only go down in the short term.
the only way to cut down fuel costs in the long term is to find an alternate source for autos or find an alternate means of transportation.

There are many alternate means of transportation available to us now, we just don't use them.

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RMAC
04-21-2006, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by olddawggreen
There are many alternate means of transportation available to us now, we just don't use them.

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:D :D

ROFLMAO!!!:clap: :clap: :clap:

pirate44
04-21-2006, 01:49 PM
i keep preahing how much gas i save by driving 55. yet i still dont see many people doing it. that is one way the government can help out. lower the speed limits and consumption goes down.

Phil C
04-21-2006, 02:05 PM
Bring back the passenger trains.

piratebg
04-21-2006, 02:09 PM
Oil is up to a new high again, $75 a barrel. Looks like prices are not going to come down any time soon.

NHSRattler60
04-21-2006, 02:11 PM
I don't have my gas card.

pirate44
04-21-2006, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by piratebg
Oil is up to a new high again, $75 a barrel. Looks like prices are not going to come down any time soon.
Next relief will be when the louisiana refineries get back on track. God help us if more big hurricanes come into the gulf. i can imagine $5/gal. gasoline:(

piratebg
04-21-2006, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by pirate44
Next relief will be when the louisiana refineries get back on track. God help us if more big hurricanes come into the gulf. i can imagine $5/gal. gasoline:(



With the 06 season just a hop, skip, and jumb away, there is no telling.

pirate44
04-21-2006, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by piratebg
With the 06 season just a hop, skip, and jumb away, there is no telling.
does the Corpus Christi area have a moped dealership?

piratebg
04-21-2006, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by pirate44
does the Corpus Christi area have a moped dealership?


http://hoverround.com/ :D

EricDraven
04-21-2006, 02:33 PM
I'm riding my motorcycle. Still costs to fill it, but lasts a whole lot longer.

SwtwtrMstngs04
04-21-2006, 03:10 PM
im glad i wont be needing a car for the next six months. geeze that stuff is expenisve especially when you drive a sports car

SintonFan
04-21-2006, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by GOFOR2
prices will only go down in the short term.
the only way to cut down fuel costs in the long term is to find an alternate source for autos or find an alternate means of transportation.
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Actually I'll retract my last statement about the conversion's high cost in these cases.
At an auction last week, a 1995 Chevy 1/2 ton dual-fuel(propane and gas) truck sold for about $1600. This truck if I remember had about 150,000+ miles which is pretty decent for any propane vehicle.
A dual-fuel 1995 Chevy Lumina with 129,000 miles sold for $2250. This car was running perfectly, ac and all, but I didn't want to pay more $2000 for a 3rd vehicle.
A newer Dogde truck sold for around $2600.
These and more alternative fuel vehicles went pretty cheap at Fotjik's auction just east of Mathis on IH37.
I always wonder why folks are intimidated by propane... I don't understand it at all.:confused:

LH Panther Mom
04-21-2006, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by pirate44
i keep preahing how much gas i save by driving 55. yet i still dont see many people doing it. that is one way the government can help out. lower the speed limits and consumption goes down.
I have been for quite some time. And I've noticed over the last few weeks, on the day I drive into the office, there are few people passing me, or if they do, they're not doing the 65 speed limit.

I bought gas last Thursday on the way in, roughly halfway to the office and have made another round trip (78 miles) since. My tank just went under 1/2 full today. The rest of the 165 miles or so in this tank are to/from school, baseball practice/games, etc.

slpybear the bullfan
04-22-2006, 04:23 PM
Don't assume that 55mph means higher mpg. Many vehicles get optimum mpg at higher speeds.

My pickup? avg 21 mpg at 71mph. consistently.

My wife's tahoe? same at 68mph. consistently.

olddawggreen
04-23-2006, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Phil C
Bring back the passenger trains.

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Heres an even better idea

:):D