10.16 100m

[Lobo10]

How wind aided was this 100. The kid that got second didn't break 11 the week before with a 10mph wind then he runs 10.79

[gobblerfan02]

Im not putting much credit into this 10.16. I'll be impressed when he wins the 100m at the state meet!

[Lobo10]

looks as if the 200 was super wind aided also. Merkel kid ran high 22 then goes 21.7

[gobblerfan02]

Ya, to bad brandon james runs a 21.5 without wind aid!

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Like it was said before, fast is fast. Wind or no wind, the kid is fast. Good luck at Regionals and State Skye. This Tiger fan is rooting for you.

[Black_Magic]

wind was a BIG factor.. bottom line

[gobblerfan02]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
Like it was said before, fast is fast. Wind or no wind, the kid is fast. Good luck at Regionals and State Skye. This Tiger fan is rooting for you. Ya, good luck to him and all the rest of the competitors!

[Lobo10]

It will all come out on thetrack, Green is fast, but how many of you have actually seen a 10.1 in allowable winds? World Class Speed

[shadow13]

Originally posted by gobblerfan02
Ya, to bad brandon james runs a 21.5 without wind aid! Hey Homer, Brandon James ran a 10.43 wind-aided 100m last year at the Texas Relays ,wind gauge at 4.7 very strong wind ,but for some reason I don't remember anyone talking about the wind at that time, by the way, that would have been a 10.19 hand time, and anything over a 2.0 will be considered a wind aided time.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Lobo10
It will all come out on thetrack, Green is fast, but how many of you have actually seen a 10.1 in allowable winds? World Class Speed How many have seem a 10.1 with strong wind or not?

[Black_Magic]

Ive seen alot of track and My honest opinion is the Green kid runs about a 10.55 FAT with no wind still very fast but not World class. I believe that would be his legit time in the 100m with no wind F.A.T.

[raider red 2000]

wind or no wind....both kids can fly....heck i bet most of yall couldnt beat them in a race.

your car or truck vs them on foot.....100 m turn around and come back 100m.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
Ive seen alot of track and My honest opinion is the Green kid runs about a 10.55 FAT with no wind still very fast but not World class. I believe that would be his legit time in the 100m with no wind F.A.T. That was last year 10.54, this year looking for a 10.45 FAT, and you're right not world class, but how many 17yr. olds who are world class.

[BullFrog Dad]

The National HS Boys 100m record is 10.15.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
Like it was said before, fast is fast. Wind or no wind, the kid is fast. Good luck at Regionals and State Skye. This Tiger fan is rooting for you. Thanks TigerFan, and good luck at Regionals. and to any 4-3A Team who makes it to State.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by BullFrog Dad
The National HS Boys 100m record is 10.15. Derrick Florence- Galveston Ball - 1986 - 10.13

[BreckTxLonghorn]

Originally posted by BullFrog Dad
The National HS Boys 100m record is 10.15.

Didn't Henry Neal run a 9.9 in 1989 or 90 at the state meet?

[BullFrog Dad]

Originally posted by BreckTxLonghorn
Didn't Henry Neal run a 9.9 in 1989 or 90 at the state meet? Texas Track has him running 10.15 at State in 1990. They list that as the national record.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by BullFrog Dad
Texas Track has him running 10.15 at State in 1990. They list that as the national record. Texas High School Track and Field State Records. Sponsored by Texas High School Track / Field News has Derrick with a 10.13 in 1986.

[BullFrog Dad]

Originally posted by shadow13
Texas High School Track and Field State Records. Sponsored by Texas High School Track / Field News has Derrick with a 10.13 in 1986. Did they use F.A.T. at that time? If not, that's probably why it's not listed as the National record.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by BullFrog Dad
Did they use F.A.T. at that time? If not, that's probably why it's not listed as the National record. I do know they were using FAT timing in the early 80's in College, but not sure about High School , that's a good point you brought up, I will have to check into it and see.

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
Ive seen alot of track and My honest opinion is the Green kid runs about a 10.55 FAT with no wind still very fast but not World class. I believe that would be his legit time in the 100m with no wind F.A.T.

BM...QUIT being a "RICHARD" and give the kid some props...a junior running that fast deserves some props, even if he's not from snyder

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Originally posted by mustang04
BM...QUIT being a **** and give the kid some props...a junior running that fast deserves some props, even if he's not from snyder

hmm...:thinking:

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
hmm...:thinking:

what are u hmmm'ing about???

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Originally posted by mustang04
what are u hmmm'ing about???

just :thinking:. Basically wondering what all you can get away with.

[District303aPastPlayer]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
just :thinking:. Basically wondering what all you can get away with.

me too...

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
just :thinking:. Basically wondering what all you can get away with.

if its that innapropriate then im sure ill be asked to edit it....it wasn't used in a nasty or sexually oriented way, its a slang

here, is this better??

BM, please quit being a mean guy....

[mustang04]

Originally posted by District303aPastPlayer
me too...

well..i got away with murder in highschool....if that counts for anything

:D

[Sweetwater Red]

You coulda called him a Richard.

You know Richard Vitale, Richard Cheney,
and so on....

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
You coulda called him a Richard.

You know Richard Vitale, Richard Cheney,
and so on....

actually i was thinkin about that hahaha

[mustang04]

there, its fixed...Kyle's new name is Richard

[GetRDoneStangs]

It looks like texastrack.com is putting some stock in Sky's run at district. It was adjusted as shown:

100m
10.41, Whitney Prevost, Texas City
10.44, Skye Green, Sweetwater
10.45, Donald Monroe, Angleton
10.50, Randez James, Converse Judson
many tied at 10.54

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
just :thinking:. Basically wondering what all you can get away with. :weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

:D :tongue: :tongue:

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by mustang04
BM...QUIT being a "RICHARD" and give the kid some props...a junior running that fast deserves some props, even if he's not from snyder What the H*** are you talking about?? Who ever said he didnt diserve props??? I just said in my oppinion he is Legit 10.55 FAT without any wind aided stuff.. thats Negative????:rolleyes:

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
What the H*** are you talking about?? Who ever said he didnt diserve props??? I just said in my oppinion he is Legit 10.55 FAT without any wind aided stuff.. thats Negative????:rolleyes:

and saying that wind was a huge factor and whatnot, wind was a factor, but there is something called improvement, u were a shot-put stud, you should know about improvements, it seems like all ur comments imply "green is good, but not THAT good"

[Snyder_TigerFan]

Originally posted by mustang04
and saying that wind was a huge factor and whatnot, wind was a factor, but there is something called improvement, u were a shot-put stud, you should know about improvements, it seems like all ur comments imply "green is good, but not THAT good"

:weeping: :weeping: :weeping: :D

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
:weeping: :weeping: :weeping: :D
im sry, i guess i missed the part where i was whining?!?!

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by mustang04
and saying that wind was a huge factor and whatnot, wind was a factor, but there is something called improvement, u were a shot-put stud, you should know about improvements, it seems like all ur comments imply "green is good, but not THAT good" Look If you dont like the fact that I dont think he is legit 10.16 then tough. he ran 10.16 hand time with a 15+mph wind ... ad FAT time to it and it comes to 10.35-10.40 at best.. 10.50-10.55 with out wind FAT is what I think he can run. Thats fast. Sorry If I dont think he Is a Roy Martin .. I have seen a few 100m in my days

[STANG RED]

A lot of the great sprinters dont even hit their prime till their late 20s and early 30s. Anybody know what Carl Lewis, Leroy Burrell, and others were running as 17 & 18 year olds?

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
Look If you dont like the fact that I dont think he is legit 10.16 then tough. he ran 10.16 hand time with a 15+mph wind ... ad FAT time to it and it comes to 10.35-10.40 at best.. 10.50-10.55 with out wind FAT is what I think he can run. Thats fast. Sorry If I dont think he Is a Roy Martin .. I have seen a few 100m in my days

i bet u climbed uphill both ways to school barefooted in the snow too huh:D

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by mustang04
i bet u climbed uphill both ways to school barefooted in the snow too huh:D You know , Your right! I think this kid IS DI when it comes to track. He has a full ride locked up in track unless he gets injured next fall. IF I was his dad , no way would I risk losing a full ride on some freak injury... could burn over $40,000 in scholarship money if he get hurt . 2008 olymics are right around the corner. knock a couple of tenths off that time and he has a shot. I would just Run and get ready for track during the fall if I was him. Remember the sweetwater QB last year ??Too much at stake ... :rolleyes:

[STANG RED]

I just found this, and thought it might interest some.

100-Meter History
The progression of the men's 100-meter world record as recognized by the International Amateur Athletic Federation, track and field's worldwide governing body:

1912: 10.6, Donald Lippincott, USA
1921: 10.4, Charles Paddock, USA
1930: 10.3, Percy Williams, Canada
1936: 10.2, Jesse Owens, USA
1956: 10.1, Willie Williams, USA
1960: 10.0, Armin Hary, W. Germany
1968: 9.99, Jim Hines, USA
1968: 9.95, Jim Hines, USA
1983: 9.93, Calvin Smith, USA
1988: 9.92, Carl Lewis, USA
1991: 9.90, Leroy Burrell, USA
1991: 9.86, Carl Lewis, USA
1994: 9.85, Leroy Burrell, USA
1996: 9.84, Donovan Bailey, Canada
1999: 9.79, Maurice Greene, USA
2002: 9.78, Tim Montgomery, USA
2005: 9.77, Asafa Powell, Jamaica

In less than a two month span, Asafa Powell ran two of the fastest 100-meter times in history:
9.77, Asafa Powell, Jamaica, June 14, 2005.
9.78, Tim Montgomery, United States, Sept. 14, 2002.
9.79, Maurice Greene, United States, June 16, 1999.
9.80, Maurice Greene, United States, Aug. 22, 1999.
9.82, Maurice Greene, United States, Aug. 5, 2001.
9.84, Donovan Bailey, Canada, July 27, 1996.
9.84, Bruny Surin, Canada, Aug. 22, 1999.
9.84, Tim Montgomery, United States, July 13, 2001.
9.84, Asafa Powell, Jamaica, May 7, 2005.

[STANG RED]

I did a little research, and found what a couple of the greatest world class sprinters were running back when they were 18 year old high school seniors.
I’d say Skye Green is on course to be in some pretty elite company some day if he keeps progressing like he has. He is only a 17 year old junior now.

JUSTIN GATLIN
Currently ranked #1 in the world at 100 & 200 meters
Height: 6-1
Weight: 180
PR: 100m – 9.84 (2005), 200m – 19.98 (2002)
Born: February 10, 1982 in Brooklyn, N.Y.
Current Residence: Raleigh, N.C.
High School: Woodham HS (Fla.) ‘00
2000: 3rd in 100m at FootLocker National Outdoor Champs (10.36) … won 100m, 110m hurdles and 300m hurdles and was third in LJ at Florida state meet, leading Woodham HS to the team title… best of 10.36.

MAURICE GREENE
Height: 5-9
Weight: 180
PRs: 100m 9.79 (1999), 200m 19.86 (1997), 60m WR (i) 6.39 (1998, 2001)
Born: July 23, 1974 in Kansas City, Kan.
Current Residence: Chatsworth, Calif.
High School: Schlagle HS, Kansas City, Kan. '93
1993: Bests of 10.43 and 21.00... won third straight Kansas HS state meet double at 100 & 200.

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
You know , Your right! I think this kid IS DI when it comes to track. He has a full ride locked up in track unless he gets injured next fall. IF I was his dad , no way would I risk losing a full ride on some freak injury... could burn over $40,000 in scholarship money if he get hurt . 2008 olymics are right around the corner. knock a couple of tenths off that time and he has a shot. I would just Run and get ready for track during the fall if I was him. Remember the sweetwater QB last year ??Too much at stake ... :rolleyes:

u know what.....i agree, but then again, if the kid loves football THAT much..let him play

thats why i appreciate my dad, he said just keep a good head on ur shoulders and use it cuz you cant always rely on athletics to get u somewhere

but blackie, i'll agree with you on this one...if u want to be SERIOUS about wanting to run in the olympics, then u have to be serious about it right now.....if i was in his shoes and wanted to run in college and olympics...i wouldnt play football

[crabman]

You guys need to get current. The new national high school record is 10.08 by J'Mee Samuels from North Carolina. It was set last year. He is also the new record holder in the 200. I don't recall his time. The 100 meter time is posted on the Texas Relays results page and most other track websites.

As far as FAT versus hand time and wind vs. no wind both are huge factors. I guarantee Skye's time is hand timed. The problem with hand timing is the delay in human reaction time from the time the timer sees the smoke of the gun until his finger depresses the button on the stop watch. Most timers can stop it right but the quickest finger and brain in the world is still about 0.20 to 0.25 seconds to push the button. That is why all hand timed races are rounded up 0.24 AFTER it has been rounded up to the nearest tenth. 10.16 rounds up to 10.2 plus 0.24 equals 10.44. That is not a Fully Automatic Time. It is just a close approximation. Wind is probably good for two tenths with it and four tenths against it.

Head to head no wind and Fully Automatic timing is the only way to settle it. Too bad Brandon will be running the 200 at state and Skye will be in the 100. Brandon is a senior so unless they meet in summer track somewhere they will never run head to head in an individual event. They have run head to head in relays but even that is not a good guage.

Both have oodles of God-given speed. Brandon is going on to run for U of H. Maybe Skye will hang around the state and they will meet in college.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by crabman
You guys need to get current. The new national high school record is 10.08 by J'Mee Samuels from North Carolina. It was set last year. He is also the new record holder in the 200. I don't recall his time. The 100 meter time is posted on the Texas Relays results page and most other track websites.

As far as FAT versus hand time and wind vs. no wind both are huge factors. I guarantee Skye's time is hand timed. The problem with hand timing is the delay in human reaction time from the time the timer sees the smoke of the gun until his finger depresses the button on the stop watch. Most timers can stop it right but the quickest finger and brain in the world is still about 0.20 to 0.25 seconds to push the button. That is why all hand timed races are rounded up 0.24 AFTER it has been rounded up to the nearest tenth. 10.16 rounds up to 10.2 plus 0.24 equals 10.44. That is not a Fully Automatic Time. It is just a close approximation. Wind is probably good for two tenths with it and four tenths against it.

Head to head no wind and Fully Automatic timing is the only way to settle it. Too bad Brandon will be running the 200 at state and Skye will be in the 100. Brandon is a senior so unless they meet in summer track somewhere they will never run head to head in an individual event. They have run head to head in relays but even that is not a good guage.

Both have oodles of God-given speed. Brandon is going on to run for U of H. Maybe Skye will hang around the state and they will meet in college. How could I forget that ,We watched J-MEE Samuels run a 10.07w time in the 100 and a 20.32 in the 200, at the Great Southwest Track /Field Classic in Albuquerque NM. last year, the kid was awesome to watch.And who knows, maybe Skye will go to Houston himself.

[crabman]

How would Leroy Burrell like to have Skye Green and Brandon James on the same relay?

That would be a helluva start to a helluva team.

[mrescape43]

Originally posted by shadow13
How could I forget that ,We watched J-MEE Samuels run a 10.07w time in the 100 and a 20.32 in the 200, at the Great Southwest Track /Field Classic in Albuquerque NM. last year, the kid was awesome to watch.And who knows, maybe Skye will go to Houston himself.

Here is another Tiger fan wishing Skye good luck at regionals and beyond.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by mrescape43
Here is another Tiger fan wishing Skye good luck at regionals and beyond. Thanks , 43 we really appreciate your support.His mom really wants him to stay in Texas,so I'm sure Texas is where he will be, just depends where in texas on what kind of offers he gets.But yeah James and Skye on the same relay that would be nice to see.

[Black_Magic]

If you have a scholarship lined up or definitly will have one it is a smart move not to jepardize that on another sport that is not going to pay the bill for school.. One stupid move by some other idiot on the field adn it ends up costing $40,000 Plus.. in college money alone. not to mention the cost of not being able to go to college in what you lose in income for the rest of your life. If I was dad, I would rather not risk it.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
If you have a scholarship lined up or definitly will have one it is a smart move not to jepardize that on another sport that is not going to pay the bill for school.. One stupid move by some other idiot on the field adn it ends up costing $40,000 Plus.. in college money alone. not to mention the cost of not being able to go to college in what you lose in income for the rest of your life. If I was dad, I would rather not risk it. Thanks for the advice,but Skye is still trying to decide if he wants to give football a try at the next level, he's got 27 schools who has shown some interest in him for football.He will wait until July to decide because he has a cpl.of track meets to attend in June.

Yeah I know he's not big enough to play college ball,and he would say, but dad that's what they said about being on varsity when I was a sophomore :thinking:

[Sweetwater Red]

What is he supposed to do...?
Wrap Skye up in bubble wrap and keep
locked up in the house unless he is
running track events...? If Skye wants to
play football too... let him play. If he
doesn't no one can blame him. That's
just my opinion.

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
What is he supposed to do...?
Wrap Skye up in bubble wrap and keep
locked up in the house unless he is
running track events...? If Skye wants to
play football too... let him play. If he
doesn't no one can blame him. That's
just my opinion. thats one way of looking at it. BUT IF he were my kid, and he had a sure thing full ride in track ( no doubt at all track is this guys sport ) No way would I risk loseing it ALL because of love of another sport at this critical point Can you imagine how you would feel as a dad if he blew a knee or ankle bad and trash $40,000 plus in school money? If my kid was that good in track and had school paid for in a sport like track No way would I want him to jepardize that . of course you dont wrap him up in bubble wrap. But ya know I remember My track coach pulling me off a court while playing vollyball in the spring a week before the state track meet and after I had acepted a scholarship to run track saying to me " what the h*** is the matter with you? you want to throw it all away on some stupid needless injury??" I understood and Now I agree with him more than ever.

[Ranger Mom]

What fun is life if you don't take some risks??

Skye could run outside to check the mail, step on a rock and twist his knee.

I am not a believer in "what ifs'....if it's meant to be, it will be, no matter what!!

[sww-bull52]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
What fun is life if you don't take some risks??

Skye could run outside to check the mail, step on a rock and twist his knee.

I am not a believer in "what ifs'....if it's meant to be, it will be, no matter what!!


AMEN!!! Mom has spoken.

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
What fun is life if you don't take some risks??

Skye could run outside to check the mail, step on a rock and twist his knee.

I am not a believer in "what ifs'....if it's meant to be, it will be, no matter what!! of course that could happen. What does the average kid risk loseing by playing football? NOTHING.. If they dont have anything to lose a knee injury is just that and the guy has lost nothing but time rehabing.... BUT IF you have $40,000 in scholarship money virtualy wraped up. and the only way you lose it is get hurt or screw up and get thrown in jail, then you dont take unessisary risks for the sake of having fun. I hope we are not on here talking about this next fall or saying " If he would have just sit out and gotten ready for his SR year in Track..."

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
What fun is life if you don't take some risks??

Skye could run outside to check the mail, step on a rock and twist his knee.

I am not a believer in "what ifs'....if it's meant to be, it will be, no matter what!! Well said RM, and I understand what Magic is talking about, but it's Skye's decision and I will support it. I didn't want him to play football last year, because of different reasons than getting hurt, but he wanted to play so I went with his decision to play.

[Whsdogs]

Originally posted by shadow13
Well said RM, and I understand what Magic is talking about, but it's Skye's decision and I will support it. I didn't want him to play football last year, because of different reasons than getting hurt, but he wanted to play so I went with his decision to play.

yup highschool comes once...so do memories!!

[Whsdogs]

Originally posted by Whsdogs
yup highschool comes once...so do memories!!

unless your of the few who like to stay there for a few extra semesters lol

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by shadow13
Well said RM, and I understand what Magic is talking about, but it's Skye's decision and I will support it. I didn't want him to play football last year, because of different reasons than getting hurt, but he wanted to play so I went with his decision to play.

I understand what Black Magic is saying also, and he is right, it would suck if we were on here next year talking about "if only".....

I agree with you Shadow, it IS Skye's choice. Unless I am reading it wrong, it seems to me that BM is saying if Skye was his kid, there is no way he would be doing anything to jeopardize a track scholarship...that is what I don't really agree with.

I think ultimately it HAS to be the kid's decision, not the parent's!

[Black_Magic]

If i had no problem spending $40,000 to send my kid to school and was that well off even if he got hurt then I would not worry about it. I dont. If I advised my son or daughter against it and the did it any way I would make it clear what they can lose and that I was in NO position to replace what is lost. It could be made clear. IF you screw up and get hurt then its on you and you could end up going to cisco Jr college and paying for it because of it.... of course it should be up to him...

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
I understand what Black Magic is saying also, and he is right, it would suck if we were on here next year talking about "if only".....

I agree with you Shadow, it IS Skye's choice. Unless I am reading it wrong, it seems to me that BM is saying if Skye was his kid, there is no way he would be doing anything to jeopardize a track scholarship...that is what I don't really agree with.

I think ultimately it HAS to be the kid's decision, not the parent's! If I was to stop him from playing and years later he look back and say ,Man i wished my Dad would have let me play my senior year. I don't want that kindof guilt on my shoulders. And you are right RM ,WHAT IS MEANT TO BE WILL BE!

[shadow13]

Magic ,believe me,We talk to Skye about everything and I mean everything, if he is not prepared to step out into the world,it's not because of lack of knowledge.He knows that education is what's going to make him successful not football or track, now whether he uses the information or not! well ,we will just have to wait and see.

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by shadow13
If I was to stop him from playing and years later he look back and say ,Man i wished my Dad would have let me play my senior year. I don't want that kindof guilt on my shoulders. And you are right RM ,WHAT IS MEANT TO BE WILL BE! Your absolutly Right Shadow. All we can do is give our best advise and let them have it. But think about it. How would you feel if You really thought it was a mistake to play FB in the fall because of all we discused and you kept it to your self and didnt let him know how you feel, and he ends up getting hurt.. You would feel horrible! I would. You have to clear your consience and tell him then let the chips fall where they may. that way you gave him all the info he needs.. when the screw up you know in your heart you warned them of the pitfalls

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
Your absolutly Right Shadow. All we can do is give our best advise and let them have it. But think about it. How would you feel if You really thought it was a mistake to play FB in the fall because of all we discused and you kept it to your self and didnt let him know how you feel, and he ends up getting hurt.. You would feel horrible! I would. You have to clear your consience and tell him then let the chips fall where they may. that way you gave him all the info he needs.. when the screw up you know in your heart you warned them of the pitfalls He knows the risk of playing and he also know why I don't want him to play.

[Sweetwater Red]

Kenneth Norman (the best RB in Sweetwater history, no offense Shadow)
left everything on the field all four years
of HS. He played football,basketball, ran
track, and played Senior league baseball.
He chose to play baseball. He was drafted
by the Twins out of HS. He was recruited
by every SWC school and then some for
football. No injuries no regrets.
Willie Amos blew his knee out while
starting at FS for Nebraska. What did he
do? Rehabed and is now on the Chicago
Bears practice squad. Things happen...
life goes on and you can only hope for
the best out come.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
Kenneth Norman (the best RB in Sweetwater history, no offense Shadow)
left everything on the field all four years
of HS. He played football,basketball, ran
track, and played Senior league baseball.
He chose to play baseball. He was drafted
by the Twins out of HS. He was recruited
by every SWC school and then some for
football. No injuries no regrets.
Willie Amos blew his knee out while
starting at FS for Nebraska. What did he
do? Rehabed and is now on the Chicago
Bears practice squad. Things happen...
life goes on and you can only hope for
the best out come. No offense taken! I watched Kenneth play football ,bar none the best RB Sweetwater has ever had( well 1 other name comes to mine, John Mills Houston, back in the 70's )

[Black_Magic]

I would love to go Sky diving.. Never have but have alway wanted to. I have Young kids to raise. Not going sky diving because its risky and I could die and leave them without a father. thats just one risk among others I am unwilling to take because the costs are to high and are not needed to be paid. what would you think of Tiger woods If he decided to play football on a semi pro team just for fun? It would be unwise in most of our minds. this is the same concept. I know someone who has a sister about to get married. this friend believes this will be the biggest mistake sister can make and believes it is doomed for several reasons not worth going into on here... My friend feels obliged to tell the the sister that they believe it will end in a bad way and would never work. WHAT IF there was a chance the sister actualy listened and didnt marry this guy thus avoiding the disapointment comming. If they tell the sister what they feel in thier heart about the decision they can now have a clear conciense (sp) and know in thier heart they at least warned her of what they believe is a mistake. . All you can do is warn kids of pitfalls you see for them and what they do with the info is up to them. You can at least sleep well at night.:)

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by shadow13
No offense taken! I watched Kenneth play football ,bar none the best RB Sweetwater has ever had( well 1 other name comes to mine, John Mills Houston, back in the 70's ) :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[sww-bull52]

Wrong BM. With all due respect, Tiger Woods would not be going through his Senior year of high school with a possible State Championship involved. You have said that our talent pool has dried up because of our lack of OL & DL, but I'm here to tell you that we have plenty of talent moving up from JV. We are never the biggest guys on the field, just the ones with the bigger hearts.

[mustang04]

Originally posted by sww-bull52
Wrong BM. With all due respect, Tiger Woods would not be going through his Senior year of high school with a possible State Championship involved. You have said that our talent pool has dried up because of our lack of OL & DL, but I'm here to tell you that we have plenty of talent moving up from JV. We are never the biggest guys on the field, just the ones with the bigger hearts.
with all due respect bull52....i dont think you can say that to the kid from everman who is paralyzed from the neck down would say it was worth it for a state championship....

a kids future, vs. a state championship....... im sry but we didnt win state but im thankful for still having the head on my shoulders and my body still intact to do what i want with the rest of my life....

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by sww-bull52
State Championship involved. In what??:doh: your talking about track in the 100m dash right... Your not talking football are you. your best shot was last year and thats past.

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
In what??:doh: your talking about track in the 100m dash right... Your not talking football are you. your best shot was last year and thats past.

i dunno blackie....i thought our best shot was our junior year when mychal carrillo was a senior...(i still believe that is the best team to go through sweetwater in a long time), but look how well they did last year and the year before and my senior year....but i will admit, west texas football went WAAAAAYYYY down after i graduated...Andrews my senior year was a top 10 4A team and was FREAKIN awesome...last year....i MIGHT have given them top 20...IN 2A!!!!!!! kinda sad

[sww-bull52]

Originally posted by mustang04
with all due respect bull52....i dont think you can say that to the kid from everman who is paralyzed from the neck down would say it was worth it for a state championship....

a kids future, vs. a state championship....... im sry but we didnt win state but im thankful for still having the head on my shoulders and my body still intact to do what i want with the rest of my life....

And you could also walk off a curb in front of a bus too. I'm just saying you never know unless you try. If I remember right, you were a pretty good track guy yourself. But you didn't chose one sport over the other did you?

[Lobo10]

He is truley gifted and should be able to do waht he fells is in his best intrest. Good Luck at Regioals and onward from there.

[sww-bull52]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
In what??:doh: your talking about track in the 100m dash right... Your not talking football are you. your best shot was last year and thats past.

Probably that too. You can believe what you want, but we'll continue this conversation around November.

[Black_Magic]

You say this so easy because you have nothing to lose at all.... Give you a scholarship in somethnig and then come to the realization that if you get hurt between now and then you lose it! Compile that with the fact you dont have the money to go to school without it.. Bet you change your tune.:rolleyes:

[mustang04]

Originally posted by sww-bull52
And you could also walk off a curb in front of a bus too. I'm just saying you never know unless you try. If I remember right, you were a pretty good track guy yourself. But you didn't chose one sport over the other did you?

but u see, i quit baseball and basketbal my junior year to do track and powerlifting to get physically ready for football my senior year, i needed it after my wreck cuz i wasnt back into the size and shape i was before my wreck until like the end of football my senior year..i just happened to do pole-vaulting and liked it, but we never had a pole that was suitable for me...i could choose between a 135lbs 12' pole which was to light for me, so i could bend it, but it wouldnt shoot me up that well....or a 13.5' 180lbs pole that woulda shot me up there if i could have bent it...but i was 153 at the time sooo kinda a tough decision haha

back to the point tho....if someone wants to honestly and thruthfully deep down wanna do something with their life....then i think they need to best prepare for it as soon as they can

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by sww-bull52
Probably that too. You can believe what you want, but we'll continue this conversation around November. I really doubt it but I understand your young and have high expectations. Just dont let people trash coach Jackson when Things dont pan out like you think they should.

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
I really doubt it but I understand your young and have high expectations. Just dont let people trash coach Jackson when Things dont pan out like you think they should.

THAT i agree with too!! coach J is a good coach and anyone who blames the absence of the state championship in the trophy case on him is ignorant

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
but I understand your young :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[mustang04]

hahaha...i think bull52 is a grown dude...BUT IM STILL YOUNG!!!! mUAHAHAHAHHAHAHA i only have 20 years under my belt muahahahhahaha:D :D

[Sweetwater Red]

That would have put you on the team
that lost to Vernon 6-3 a few years back?

[STANG RED]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
I really doubt it but I understand your young and have high expectations. Just dont let people trash coach Jackson when Things dont pan out like you think they should.

HA HA HA. I have no idea how old you are blackie, but im pretty sure bull is older than you. Probably not much, but a few years anyway.

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
That would have put you on the team
that lost to Vernon 6-3 a few years back?
yeah...worst freakin game of football ive ever seen or been a part of

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by mustang04
yeah...worst freakin game of football ive ever seen or been a part of

I'm gonna send you a message.

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
I'm gonna send you a message.

aight!

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by mustang04
yeah...worst freakin game of football ive ever seen or been a part of

I remember that game, a Sweetwater fan in the stands that sat behind us blamed Ranger Rebel for the loss, said her being decked out in Greenwood gear jinxed the Mustangs!! :p :p

[Sweetwater Red]

So THAT was it !!!:mad:

[loboes86]

I agree with Black_Magic, Skye should be set down and really talked to about what he stands to lose if he gets hurt playing football. It's one thing to get hurt in everyday life , and another by playing football and having some big ol boy trying to clean your plow every time the ball is snapped. If he plays he plays , if he gets hurt he gets hurt and he could flush all he could gain down the toilet and if that happens, I hope he's smart enough to stand in front of a mirror so he can see who's at falt for all that was lost.:)

[smustangs]

Originally posted by mustang04
yeah...worst freakin game of football ive ever seen or been a part of

i have to agree reg that was the worst game i have ever played in

[crabman]

I'm back in a little late on this post. First of all, that $40,000 you are talking about is $60,000. $15,000 per year per kid. State school. Your tuition and fee statement for one year will be about $7,200-$7,500. Room, meals etc... get it up there pretty quick. I've got two at A&M right now. Trust me. I know.

Second of all, I have not seen anyone on here mention DaBryan Blanton. Played football through high school. Started to at Oklahoma and then quit to only run track. I don't know why. I don't know if it worked out for him. I would think Sweetwater's coach could make a call to OU and arrange a phone call. Man to man. Skye to DaBryan. See what is in their heads. It might help to make his decision. It might only confuse him. I don't know.

[Phantom Stang]

I find all this concern about Skye Green's well being, that's comming from Sweetwater's West Texas football opponents, to be very heart warming.:rolleyes:

Even ole Black Magic's showing his compassionate side.:p

[gobbler84]

Originally posted by shadow13
That was last year 10.54, this year looking for a 10.45 FAT, and you're right not world class, but how many 17yr. olds who are world class.

I've seen a 15 year old kid run a 10.45 in the hundred!

[Black_Magic]

Remember old Tory Mitchel from Big Springs?? he had one of the fastest 200 meter times in the world his Jr year. Tenesee wanted to give him a full ride on a track scholarship. He was invited to go to europe to run in the summer before his Sr year Football season. he didnt want to go because he didnt want to miss football. His FB coach tried to talk him into going to run and even carried him to the airport but he would not get on the plain.. He wanted to go play football at Miami because they were going to let him play both there.. he was not near as good in football as he was on the track.. He went to Miami the next fall. Was there 3 weeks, one week hiding in his room.... Bad Choice .. should have listened to people who knew. Some things we want to do are not what we were meant to do.:rolleyes:

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
Remember old Tory Mitchel from Big Springs?? he had one of the fastest 200 meter times in the world his Jr year. Tenesee wanted to give him a full ride on a track scholarship. He was invited to go to europe to run in the summer before his Sr year Football season. he didnt want to go because he didnt want to miss football. His FB coach tried to talk him into going to run and even carried him to the airport but he would not get on the plain.. He wanted to go play football at Miami because they were going to let him play both there.. he was not near as good in football as he was on the track.. He went to Miami the next fall. Was there 3 weeks, one week hiding in his room.... Bad Choice .. should have listened to people who knew. Some things we want to do are not what we were meant to do.:rolleyes:

Why was he hiding in his room?

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Why was he hiding in his room? I believe Because he was getting the piss knocked out of him and he figured out football at Miami was not his cup of tea.. I believe he came to the conclusion at some time in his room that last week..:rolleyes:

[shadow13]

I hear you LOUD and clear Magic,but Tory Mitchell and Skye Green are 2 different people,I don't know what happened in his situation, but I would like to believe that we have a better grip on Skye's.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
I believe Because he was getting the piss knocked out of him and he figured out football at Miami was not his cup of tea.. I believe he came to the conclusion at some time in his room that last week..:rolleyes: It seems to me it's alot more complicated then that, maybe not being prepared to be that far away from home and not being ready for life after high school.

[oh well]

Seen a lot of things in Big Spring but never a plain that I could get on and fly to Tenn. Maybe I am just not looking at the lights right wait that is another town.

Shadow I am sure there is more to it and the SW young man is a better FB player then the B.S. kid was in my opinion. Still if you have a chance on the OLYMPIC stage WOW WOW WOW.

[shadow13]

Tory Mitchell @ State Meet

1996- 10.55 - 3rd
1997- 10.66 - 3rd
1998- 10.34 - 1st
1999- 10.31 - 1st

[shadow13]

Originally posted by oh well
Seen a lot of things in Big Spring but never a plain that I could get on and fly to Tenn. Maybe I am just not looking at the lights right wait that is another town.

Shadow I am sure there is more to it and the SW young man is a better FB player then the B.S. kid was in my opinion. Still if you have a chance on the OLYMPIC stage WOW WOW WOW. We will all sit down and talk about Skye's situation after we get back from the USA T/F Championships in Waco, June 17th.

[shadow13]

Just got word from the Regional Qual. Meet, Sweetwater took 2nd in the 4x100 relay, and Skye 1st - 100m- 10.26 FAT, I'm at work ,so I don't have the full details.

[mrescape43]

Tory Mitchell came back to Lubbock and was supposed to sit out a year before playing for Tech and that is the last that I heard from him. I don't know if he completed the year or not.

Congrats to Skye!

Do you know anymore results?

[GetRDoneStangs]

From the Roscoe:

4 x 100 Boys:

Odessa Permian ..... 41.78
Sweetwater..............42.25

100 Meter

Skye Green Sweetwater........10.36
(??? name) KNox City...........10.44
(??? name) Permian ............10.65

I may have 2 nd and 3rd crossed up school wise, the PA announced that way. I thought the Permian kid was 2nd. I took the times from the computer printouts board on the field.

Skye broke the meet/track record from 1991.

I will try to post more later.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by GetRDoneStangs
From the Roscoe:

4 x 100 Boys:

Odessa Permian ..... 41.78
Sweetwater..............42.25

100 Meter

Skye Green Sweetwater........10.36
(??? name) KNox City...........10.44
(??? name) Permian ............10.65

I may have 2 nd and 3rd crossed up school wise, the PA announced that way. I thought the Permian kid was 2nd. I took the times from the computer printouts board on the field.

Skye broke the meet/track record from 1991.

I will try to post more later. Thanks, the wind didn't seem to be a factor today or was it.and do you know if it was FAT OR HAND TIME?

[GetRDoneStangs]

I am a rookie when it comes to track:

I think it was hand because 1 man started the time and they had sinigle people stoping for each lane. Then it was printed out by computer.

Wind was zero or close to it.

Skye ran well. it was a good heat. The Permian kids ran well also.

I should get a call after the mile relay and will post it then.

[NHSRattler60]

boo track.

How fast is he with pads on? and a ball in his hands?

and 11 guys trying to tackle him?

in the mud?

with 10 seconds in the game?

for the winning td?

Man I'm ready for the season.

[mustang04]

Originally posted by NHSRattler60
boo track.

How fast is he with pads on? and a ball in his hands?

and 11 guys trying to tackle him?

in the mud?

with 10 seconds in the game?

for the winning td?

Man I'm ready for the season.
ok just shut up.....u really have no clue about skye green then do u???? he's prolly the fastest guy in the state with pads on...:rolleyes:

[NHSRattler60]

you can bite the fattest part of my owchie

[mustang04]

Originally posted by NHSRattler60
you can bite the fattest part of my owchie

have any seasoning????:D

[NHSRattler60]

:D

[NHSRattler60]

we rule.

[mustang04]

Originally posted by NHSRattler60
we rule.
u know thissss!! ....MAN!

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by shadow13
Thanks, the wind didn't seem to be a factor today or was it.and do you know if it was FAT OR HAND TIME? It was Hand time. To convert it the usual thing is to ad two and a quarter tenths of a second on to it. 10.36 + .225 = 10.525 aproximatly thats without wind too!

[shadow13]

BM,If you will check out the article on Skye @Texasprepxtra.rival.com

[Snyder_TigerFan]

I believe this link is what you are referring to.

http://texasprepxtra.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=537203

[shadow13]

That's the one!

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Snyder_TigerFan
I believe this link is what you are referring to.

http://texasprepxtra.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=537203

thats a good article

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
It was Hand time. To convert it the usual thing is to ad two and a quarter tenths of a second on to it. 10.36 + .225 = 10.525 aproximatly thats without wind too!

You don't wanna give that kid any credit AT ALL, do you??

That's okay though, almost everyone is on to you!!:rolleyes:

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
You don't wanna give that kid any credit AT ALL, do you??

That's okay though, almost everyone is on to you!!:rolleyes: What the heck are you talking about????????:confused: The question was asked about the Roscoe time in the 100 being HAND TIME OR FAT ( Fully Automatic Timeing) I answered It because I knew sthe answer and Know what the Conversion from Hand to FAT is.... Who said anything about credit one way or another? In fact I mentioned It was with no wind either.. Would you be happy If I lied and said It was World Class???:rolleyes:

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
What the heck are you talking about????????:confused: The question was asked about the Roscoe time in the 100 being HAND TIME OR FAT ( Fully Automatic Timeing) I answered It because I knew sthe answer and Know what the Conversion from Hand to FAT is.... Who said anything about credit one way or another? In fact I mentioned It was with no wind either.. Would you be happy If I lied and said It was World Class???:rolleyes:

blackie...dont try and play it off

:D :D :D

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by mustang04
blackie...dont try and play it off

:D :D :D

It's okay, I am just going by the countless PM's I have received from others!

They seem to notice that something is just not quite right!:thinking:

[mustang04]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
It's okay, I am just going by the countless PM's I have received from others!

They seem to notice that something is just not quite right!:thinking:

well something about him just isnt right:D

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by mustang04
well something about him just isnt right:D Gosh!! ya know you guys are Right!! that 10.36 has to be slow. I know he had to be way faster than that!! He had to be at least 10.06 FAT!!!! I think there was a Head wind as well so It would have been 9.85 if he had not had to run against the wind ....:rolleyes: ONE THING IS FOR SURE.. NO WAY HE PLAYS FB NEXT YEAR IF IM HIS DAD... BIG chance on losing it all ( olympics ) on a sport that he is good at but not ment to be Great at like track,.

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
It's okay, I am just going by the countless PM's I have received from others!

They seem to notice that something is just not quite right!:thinking: Countless PMs about me puting perspective on his times????:clap: :thinking: Thats a hoot:clap:

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by mustang04
blackie...dont try and play it off

:D :D :D you answer it then IF you Know... Or do you know there is a 2 tenths of a second difference between Hand time and FAT.... You guys are really way to sensitive. 10.5 FAT is FAST!!!! dont you understand that? wait .. Clearly you DONT..:doh: :doh: Does anyone one here have a brain when it comes to track??

[STANG RED]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
Gosh!! ya know you guys are Right!! that 10.36 has to be slow. I know he had to be way faster than that!! He had to be at least 10.06 FAT!!!! I think there was a Head wind as well so It would have been 9.85 if he had not had to run against the wind ....:rolleyes: ONE THING IS FOR SURE.. NO WAY HE PLAYS FB NEXT YEAR IF IM HIS DAD... BIG chance on losing it all ( olympics ) on a sport that he is good at but not ment to be Great at like track,.

Good thing your not his dad! His mother and dad would rather he not play football next season, but LIKE THE GREAT PARENTS THEY ARE, they are not going to force that decision down Skye's throat. They will let HIM make the ultimate decision, as it should be!
I also beleive he should not play football his senior year, and concentrate on track, but I would hope I would take the same stance as the Green's if he were my son, and let Skye make the final decision. At 17, he should be able to make a well informed decision.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
Countless PMs about me puting perspective on his times????:clap: :thinking: Thats a hoot:clap:

I don't remember posting what the PM's entailed! Nice try with the guess though!

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by STANG RED
Good thing your not his dad! His mother and dad would rather he not play football next season, but LIKE THE GREAT PARENTS THEY ARE, they are not going to force that decision down Skye's throat. They will let HIM make the ultimate decision, as it should be!
I also beleive he should not play football his senior year, and concentrate on track, but I would hope I would take the same stance as the Green's if he were my son, and let Skye make the final decision. At 17, he should be able to make a well informed decision. Oh nobody said he should not let him make the decision. But you can make it clear that if there is an inijury that there is not $40,000 to replace what would be blown..

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
I don't remember posting what the PM's entailed! Nice try with the guess though! So they dont have anyting to do with it then. Great! I love relivant comments from pluto!!:rolleyes:

[STANG RED]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
Oh nobody said he should not let him make the decision. But you can make it clear that if there is an inijury that there is not $40,000 to replace what would be blown..

Nobody said it except for you. Here is what you said:
"ONE THING IS FOR SURE.. NO WAY HE PLAYS FB NEXT YEAR IF IM HIS DAD"

As for the $40,000, you make a good point, and no doubt they are all very aware of that. But in reality, kids go to college all the time on loans and grants. It's just a part of life nowadays. Way more kids have to go to college every year on loans and grants, than those that get full ride scholarships. They will just have to do the same thing, if it happens to come down to that. Hopefully it wont! By the way, it's probably closer to $60,000 than $40,000 now.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
So they dont have anyting to do with it then. Great! I love relivant comments from pluto!!:rolleyes:

I didn't say that either!!:p

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
Does anyone one here have a brain when it comes to track??

The Chief does...maybe you should call him up! ;) ;)

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by STANG RED
Nobody said it except for you. Here is what you said:
"ONE THING IS FOR SURE.. NO WAY HE PLAYS FB NEXT YEAR IF IM HIS DAD"

As for the $40,000, you make a good point, and no doubt they are all very aware of that. But in reality, kids go to college all the time on loans and grants. It's just a part of life nowadays. Way more kids have to go to college every year on loans and grants, than those that get full ride scholarships. They will just have to do the same thing, if it happens to come down to that. Hopefully it wont! By the way, it's probably closer to $60,000 than $40,000 now.

ANYWAY BACK ON TOPIC IREGARDLESS OF PANY WADS ..My comment. Means I would make it clear that I didnt want him to play fb next year at all. I would leave no doubt that I believe it would be a huge mistake to risk it. GRANTS??? The Kid Runs a Legit 10.5 FAT 100m!! that a scholarship in the bag! GRANTS!!??? LOANS!!?? Why?? he has one locked up with a 10.5 and will for sure if he drops it to a 10.4 FAT.. Like I said I would like to go sky diving for the fun of it but then again I have 3 kids that I would not under any circumstances want to take an UNEEDED chance of leaving them whithout a father... When you get a sure thing you hang on to it and dont do anything stupid to jepardize it in my oppinion.

[shadow13]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
ANYWAY BACK ON TOPIC IREGARDLESS OF PANY WADS ..My comment. Means I would make it clear that I didnt want him to play fb next year at all. I would leave no doubt that I believe it would be a huge mistake to risk it. GRANTS??? The Kid Runs a Legit 10.5 FAT 100m!! that a scholarship in the bag! GRANTS!!??? LOANS!!?? Why?? he has one locked up with a 10.5 and will for sure if he drops it to a 10.4 FAT.. Like I said I would like to go sky diving for the fun of it but then again I have 3 kids that I would not under any circumstances want to take an UNEEDED chance of leaving them whithout a father... When you get a sure thing you hang on to it and dont do anything stupid to jepardize it in my oppinion. I have a friend who lives in Desoto, who have been keeping up with Skye. He tells me that some people who are in prominent positions in the Collegiate field thinks that Skye should just concentrate on Track, and if he wants to play any other sport it should be Baseball,if any at all,this person is someone I grew up with from pre-school and someone I respect and have total confidence in his opinion, so We will all get together with Skye during the summer and explain to him his situation and to make sure he understands everything he needs to know about the decisions he will have to make in the next 1-2 months. Alot on a 17yr. old...but that's life.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by shadow13
I have a friend who lives in Desoto, who have been keeping up with Skye. He tells me that some people who are in prominent positions in the Collegiate field thinks that Skye should just concentrate on Track, and if he wants to play any other sport it should be Baseball,if any at all,this person is someone I grew up with from pre-school and someone I respect and have total confidence in his opinion, so We will all get together with Skye during the summer and explain to him his situation and to make sure he understands everything he needs to know about the decisions he will have to make in the next 1-2 months. Alot on a 17yr. old...but that's life.

Good luck to Skye, no matter what his decision is!!