Nothing Gringo on May 1st.....

[AP Panther Fan]

ahhhh, here we go again... (http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/04/14/mexico.boycott.ap/index.html)


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[Emerson1]

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[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by Emerson1
http://www.kiddlive.com/ShowPics/MegaMarch/pic4.jpg

K I'm struggling with the english on that shirt. At least they tried...

[LH Panther Mom]

IMO, this will have the same effect as all of America boycotting the purchase of Exxon/Mobile gas for one day.

[AP Panther Fan]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
IMO, this will have the same effect as all of America boycotting the purchase of Exxon/Mobile gas for one day.


Right?! In the big scheme of things, it accomplishes nothing. All it does is further divide the people/governments of the two countries...

being a simplistic American, all this does is make me want to say "close the *#%@ gate":mad:

[STANG RED]

I was somewhat sympathetic to their cause, but after reading that article, they can kiss my fat buttocks.

[BullFrog Dad]

Originally posted by STANG RED
they can kiss my fat buttocks. That might keep them from wanting to cross the border.

[GWOOD]

Originally posted by BullFrog Dad
That might keep them from wanting to cross the border.

Good one!:clap: :clap:

[STANG RED]

Originally posted by BullFrog Dad
That might keep them from wanting to cross the border.

What ever it takes. I'm game!

[bullfrog_alumni_02]

I have long since thought that if they wish to gain citizenship in our country, and are of age, they must enlist in the military for atleast 3 years. the military and its current retention problems and them wanting what they do, i think can come to a compromise. in my eyes its fair, afterall, we had to fight for independence and freedom, why should they be allowed to feed on our freedom without trully earning it. just my HMO.

[STANG RED]

Now thats a great idea! And they should have to pass an English exam to get out.

[lepfan]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
IMO, this will have the same effect as all of America boycotting the purchase of Exxon/Mobile gas for one day. That boycott is the stupidest one I have ever seen:rolleyes:

[sinton66]

Bulldog_12,
That's a very good point. Other immigrants have followed that path in the past. Our Native American Indian nations have supported our military heroically. WWII efforts might have been in big trouble if not for the Navajos.

In this case, though, these immigrants come over loaded with so much anti-US bias, they probably couldn't do a good job in our military. They're looking for too much favored status and preferential treatment.

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by bullfrog_alumni_02
I have long since thought that if they wish to gain citizenship in our country, and are of age, they must enlist in the military for atleast 3 years. the military and its current retention problems and them wanting what they do, i think can come to a compromise. in my eyes its fair, afterall, we had to fight for independence and freedom, why should they be allowed to feed on our freedom without trully earning it. just my HMO.

are you trying to weed them out that way? ;)

[bullfrog_alumni_02]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
are you trying to weed them out that way? ;) no, not by any means. freedom aint free. i know this for a fact. i dont really like the fact that not everyone, but a large portion of our country expects everything to be handed to them as if they deserve it, or it was already theirs to begin with. especially if they arent even american to begin with. i understand that not everyone is made for the military, but its not that hard of a life style, and if you want to become an american i do feel that it should be a requirement, thats just how i feel about it, and thats not gonna change.

[injuredinmelee]

Go home and make somethingh productive out of your home nation. Get rid of the corruption and greed that has plagued the governments of Central and South America for centuries. We are not the place for you to come to get away then try and take over.

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by bullfrog_alumni_02
no, not by any means. freedom aint free. i know this for a fact. i dont really like the fact that not everyone, but a large portion of our country expects everything to be handed to them as if they deserve it, or it was already theirs to begin with. especially if they arent even american to begin with. i understand that not everyone is made for the military, but its not that hard of a life style, and if you want to become an american i do feel that it should be a requirement, thats just how i feel about it, and thats not gonna change.

I was actually saying that tongue in cheek but I strongly agree with you. There are many countries that still require you to be a part of their military upon turning 18 and I think that a program such as this would help build the next "Greatest Generation." I for one feel very fortunate to have been able to meet so many that were involved in WW2 and I absolutely love talking to those that have come before us and seeing their faces light up when they tell their stories. I fear that they are a unique generation and that this country may never look upon a generation, our or military, the same way. After all, WW2 is the last war that did not have a strong anti-war movement going on at the same time.

[sinton66]

Originally posted by bullfrog_alumni_02
no, not by any means. freedom aint free. i know this for a fact. i dont really like the fact that not everyone, but a large portion of our country expects everything to be handed to them as if they deserve it, or it was already theirs to begin with. especially if they arent even american to begin with. i understand that not everyone is made for the military, but its not that hard of a life style, and if you want to become an american i do feel that it should be a requirement, thats just how i feel about it, and thats not gonna change.

All of that is coming from "entitlement" programs our government has allowed to prosper. EVERYONE who comes here legally or illegally think they are entitled to the same rights and benefits we have fought and died for throughout our history as a nation. This entire nation needs to re-learn the lessons of freedom and what it costs to win and maintain it at a high level. It's root cause is voter apathy. Sooner or later, the citizens in this country should wake up and realize what we're being force-fed and stage a taxpayer revolt. Lack of income is the only thing that will EVER make a difference to our governments. I'm no advocate of violent overthrow of our system, but it's way beyond time we got their attention. For too long, they have been allowed to do what they want when they want, and we are the only ones that can stop it. So, how come we're not????

[sinton66]

BTW, Americans should endeavor to discover the meaning of the word "Gringo" as it's used to describe us.

[SWMustang]

Originally posted by sinton66
BTW, Americans should endeavor to discover the meaning of the word "Gringo" as it's used to describe us.

enlighten me

[espn1]

Warning! Any wet Back that misses work on my jobs May 1st will be terminated for life. Hey you're over here in my Country working. Don't ever threaten me. You savy. That will be my message.

[injuredinmelee]

I wont lie in every job I have ever had I have never ever and never ever hie someone that is not able to communicate verbally and communicate well in English. The fact that people want everyone to learn spanish or print instructions, labels, etc in another language is offensive to me. It is telling me that i have to adapt. I don have to adapt. I am not the person that entered this country illegally or legally. If i was goign o migrate to germany or italy I would learn he language before i went.

[turbostud]

Gringo according to my wife who is Hispanic refers to a "white person" but depends on how it is used. If you add a classic spanish cuss word in front of it then it is used derogatory. The other day on the RGVSports forum this guy(Hispanic) called me a "cracker" because I proved him wrong on a point he tried to make. Things are heating up here in the Valley over the Immigration Bill.
Gringo-
A recurring fake etymology for the derivation of gringo states that it originated during the Mexican-American War of 1846-48. It has been claimed that Gringo comes from "green go" and used in reference to the American soldiers and the color of their uniforms. This is an example of an invented explanation, because gringo was used in Spanish long before the war and during the Mexican-American War, the US Army did not use green uniforms, but blue ones.

Yet another story, from Mexico, holds that Mexicans with knowledge of the English language used to write "greens go home" on street walls referring to the color of the uniforms of the invading army; subsequently, it became a common habitual action for the rest of the population to yell "green go" whenever US soldiers passed by.

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by bullfrog_alumni_02
no, not by any means. freedom aint free. i know this for a fact. i dont really like the fact that not everyone, but a large portion of our country expects everything to be handed to them as if they deserve it, or it was already theirs to begin with. especially if they arent even american to begin with. i understand that not everyone is made for the military, but its not that hard of a life style, and if you want to become an american i do feel that it should be a requirement, thats just how i feel about it, and thats not gonna change.

:clap: :clap:

[Keith7]

Originally posted by turbostud
Gringo according to my wife who is Hispanic refers to a "white person" but depends on how it is used. If you add a classic spanish cuss word in front of it then it is used derogatory. The other day on the RGVSports forum this guy(Hispanic) called me a "cracker" because I proved him wrong on a point he tried to make. Things are heating up here in the Valley over the Immigration Bill.
Gringo-
A recurring fake etymology for the derivation of gringo states that it originated during the Mexican-American War of 1846-48. It has been claimed that Gringo comes from "green go" and used in reference to the American soldiers and the color of their uniforms. This is an example of an invented explanation, because gringo was used in Spanish long before the war and during the Mexican-American War, the US Army did not use green uniforms, but blue ones.

Yet another story, from Mexico, holds that Mexicans with knowledge of the English language used to write "greens go home" on street walls referring to the color of the uniforms of the invading army; subsequently, it became a common habitual action for the rest of the population to yell "green go" whenever US soldiers passed by.


We asked our spanish teacher about where the word Gringo game from, and he told us it came from when the Americans were trying to build the Panama canal, and the people of panama didn't like the idea, and came up with the "Green Go" saying that you are talking about because of their uniforms...

Same story, just different place

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by sinton66
All of that is coming from "entitlement" programs our government has allowed to prosper. EVERYONE who comes here legally or illegally think they are entitled to the same rights and benefits we have fought and died for throughout our history as a nation. This entire nation needs to re-learn the lessons of freedom and what it costs to win and maintain it at a high level. It's root cause is voter apathy. Sooner or later, the citizens in this country should wake up and realize what we're being force-fed and stage a taxpayer revolt. Lack of income is the only thing that will EVER make a difference to our governments. I'm no advocate of violent overthrow of our system, but it's way beyond time we got their attention. For too long, they have been allowed to do what they want when they want, and we are the only ones that can stop it. So, how come we're not????

Just out of curiousity, in all of your years, what have you done for our government and our nation?

[Keith7]

Originally posted by bullfrog_alumni_02
no, not by any means. freedom aint free. i know this for a fact. i dont really like the fact that not everyone, but a large portion of our country expects everything to be handed to them as if they deserve it, or it was already theirs to begin with. especially if they arent even american to begin with. i understand that not everyone is made for the military, but its not that hard of a life style, and if you want to become an american i do feel that it should be a requirement, thats just how i feel about it, and thats not gonna change.

Thats a good idea.. Send the Mexicans to fight a war that WE shouldn't even be in.. best Idea yet!!

How about we just put dog collars on all the mexicans, and one of those invisable fences that will shock them if they try to cross??:rolleyes:

[Keith7]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
Just out of curiousity, in all of your years, what have you done for our government and our nation?

What have you done?? U prolly havnt even started to pay taxes.. I think you should be sent to Mexico, we could use the cheap work of the illegal mexicans more then you

[turbostud]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
Just out of curiousity, in all of your years, what have you done for our government and our nation?

Ah oh. You just opened a big can of worms.:doh:

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

No, my intentions were nothing completely personal against Tony. My only protest to what he said was staging a revolt for the people who do nothing for our country. As a man who has never served in the armed forces, I do not think he is in a position to make such a statement. I know that there were circumstances, and he did in his position what he thought was appropriate as a man, but there are people out there who need help, but as far as I am concerned, these illegals are mooching off of the hard work of Americans as the lazy legal citizens who receive welfare benefits. I do think that there are people out there who need help, and there is a certain extent of redistrubition that needs to be done, but overthrowing the government? Come on. He throws on extreme out there, and I do the same, simple as that. He talks about everything that these people don't do for our country, but he hasn't done many of them either.

Sinton 66-I was just told that he did serve in the Navy, so I do apologize completely for my first post. Despite your sacrifice to our country, I simply cannot agree with what you said.

[turbostud]

Originally posted by Keith7
What have you done?? U prolly havnt even started to pay taxes.. I think you should be sent to Mexico, we could use the cheap work of the illegal mexicans more then you
Keith, just so you know, not all "illegals" are Mexican. There are plenty from other countries as well.

[sinton66]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
Just out of curiousity, in all of your years, what have you done for our government and our nation?

I served in the Navy during the Viet Nam era. I've also had a job since Jr. High back in the 50's and thus have paid income tax and social security for about 45 years. I've paid the medical taxes ever since they were implimented. I own a house and pay property tax to support local government and schools. I vote in every election. I work hand in hand with a number of law enforcement agencies to keep their communications systems up and running. I've served on juries a number of times. I've even served on citizen patrols during times of martial law. I served with a local Boy Scout Troop as an Assistant Scoutmaster for two years, then as Scoutmaster for another ten. Sorry, BBDE, I think I've earned the right to speak my mind.

And, BTW, to correct your statement, what I said was this:
I'm no advocate of violent overthrow of our system.

This country was born out of revolution, who's to say it won't EVER happen again? The Boston Tea Party was a tax revolt.

[sinton66]

Here's another aspect to consider. It's okay for them to declare a "No Gringo Day", but if we staged a "No Hispanic Day" here, we would automatically be labeled racists. We live in the United States, but we have to endure "Cinco de Mayo" celebrations. That's what us old fashioned people call a double standard. The Mexican government knows NOTHING about being a good neighbor.

They cried and cried until American Companies built manufacturing facilities in their country to provide GOOD jobs with a secure future. Some of America's leading High-Tech manufacturers have facilities down there. As history serves us, what will be the outcome from this?

Years ago (late 50's), US Oil companies did the exploration, dug the wells, installed the pipelines, built refineries, developed their entire petroleum industry for them, taught them how to run it, and what did we get in return? They nationalized their oil industry and ordered us out of the country.

Mexico has allowed citizens of our country to be kidnapped, murdered, held for ransom, jailed unjustly, and many other things. They seem powerless to do anything about it. They say they vigorously fight the illegal drug traffic, but we know of PROVEN incidences when the Mexican military has escorted drugs into this country.

Mexico pays nothing more than "lip service" to the United States, then stabs us in the back every chance they get. They bad mouth us on the World Stage, and they work against our economic policies and programs.

Their government is corrupt at every level, and they are in fact a nation of ingrates as surely as France is.

[espn1]

Originally posted by Keith7
We asked our spanish teacher about where the word Gringo game from, and he told us it came from when the Americans were trying to build the Panama canal, and the people of panama didn't like the idea, and came up with the "Green Go" saying that you are talking about because of their uniforms...

Same story, just different place
I think I'd find a new Spanish Teacher. The term Gringo has been around longer than the Canal.

[sinton66]

The border troubles between the US and Mexico have been going on for as long as I can remember. It's usually one sided in favor of Mexico because the US makes concessions. They have kidnapped ATF, Customs, and DEA agents working undercover (with the permission of the Mexican Federal Government) by the dozens down there.

I do remember once when it wasn't such a good idea. Back in the early sixties, a corrupt local government on the other side of the border decided that kidnapping Americans and holding them for ransom was a good money making idea. They made the mistake of kidnapping Ross Perot's son and demanding ransom for him. Perot hired his own "soldiers of fortune" and they went down there, broke him out of jail and brought him back. The Mexican Consulate went beserk and demanded the US arrest and extradite everyone involved. The US State Department said, "Sorry, they haven't broken any laws on this side of the border, nothing we can do". Personally, I'd like to see more of that attitude.

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by sinton66
I served in the Navy during the Viet Nam era. I've also had a job since Jr. High back in the 50's and thus have paid income tax and social security for about 45 years. I've paid the medical taxes ever since they were implimented. I own a house and pay property tax to support local government and schools. I vote in every election. I work hand in hand with a number of law enforcement agencies to keep their communications systems up and running. I've served on juries a number of times. I've even served on citizen patrols during times of martial law. I served with a local Boy Scout Troop as an Assistant Scoutmaster for two years, then as Scoutmaster for another ten. Sorry, BBDE, I think I've earned the right to speak my mind.

And, BTW, to correct your statement, what I said was this:.

This country was born out of revolution, who's to say it won't EVER happen again? The Boston Tea Party was a tax revolt.
If you would have read my second reply, you would have saw that I acknowledged your service in the military and apologized, I previously did not know that before. As for another revolution, our Constitution was meant to be flexible and that is the reason that it has lasted for so long. The only reason we would need to overthrow anything would be due to things such as the Patriot Act. That is just my opinion.

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by sinton66
The border troubles between the US and Mexico have been going on for as long as I can remember. It's usually one sided in favor of Mexico because the US makes concessions. They have kidnapped ATF, Customs, and DEA agents working undercover (with the permission of the Mexican Federal Government) by the dozens down there.

I do remember once when it wasn't such a good idea. Back in the early sixties, a corrupt local government on the other side of the border decided that kidnapping Americans and holding them for ransom was a good money making idea. They made the mistake of kidnapping Ross Perot's son and demanding ransom for him. Perot hired his own "soldiers of fortune" and they went down there, broke him out of jail and brought him back. The Mexican Consulate went beserk and demanded the US arrest and extradite everyone involved. The US State Department said, "Sorry, they haven't broken any laws on this side of the border, nothing we can do". Personally, I'd like to see more of that attitude.

Finally, something we can agree on...who would have thought?

[sinton66]

Well, BBDE, bringing the government to its knees isn't exactly the same thing as "overthrowing" it. I actually stated I'm not an advocate of overthrowing the government. My point was the only way we will ever get them to sit up and listen is if we hit them in the pocketbook. You can write your legislators all you want, but if what you want doesn't fit within their agenda, you're s.o.l.

[BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END]

Originally posted by sinton66
Well, BBDE, bringing the government to its knees isn't exactly the same thing as "overthrowing" it. I actually stated I'm not an advocate of overthrowing the government. My point was the only way we will ever get them to sit up and listen is if we hit them in the pocketbook. You can write your legislators all you want, but if what you want doesn't fit within their agenda, you're s.o.l.
There are too many representatives following their party's desires and not serving their constituents. It really is a shame.

[Keith7]

Originally posted by espn1
I think I'd find a new Spanish Teacher. The term Gringo has been around longer than the Canal.

He was the best teacher i've had in my LIFE.. After just my first semester I was able to communicate pretty easily with spanish speaking people..

[Keith7]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
There are too many representatives following their party's desires and not serving their constituents. It really is a shame.

Is it thier party's desires?? or the $$$'s desires??

[sinton66]

Originally posted by Keith7
He was the best teacher i've had in my LIFE.. After just my first semester I was able to communicate pretty easily with spanish speaking people..

Uhm, Keith......he did some research.
his knowledge (http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43557)

[Keith7]

Originally posted by sinton66
Uhm, Keith......he did some research.
his knowledge (http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43557)

raaar ok I get it.. I was just trying to share what I thought i knew.. Sorry guys i'm an idiot

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by BIG BLUE DEFENSIVE END
Just out of curiousity, in all of your years, what have you done for our government and our nation?
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Come on. I know you said you didn't mean disrespect G but goodness, that question sounds pretty directional.

[SintonFan]

The relevance of MAY DAY as provided by Wikipedia.com:
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May Day
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May Day is a name for various holidays celebrated on May 1 (or in the beginning of May). The most famous of these is International Workers' Day, which is the commemoration of the social and economic achievements of the labor movement. The 1 May date is used because in 1884 the Federation of Organized Trades and Labor Unions, inspired by Labor's 1872 success in Canada, demanded an eight-hour workday in the United States, to come in effect as of May 1, 1886. This resulted in the general strike and the U.S. Haymarket Riot of 1886, but eventually also in the official sanction of the eight-hour workday.

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1 Labour association
1.1 May Day in the United Kingdom
1.2 May Day Militancy in Germany
1.3 EuroMayDay
2 Governmental Resistance to May Day
3 Other Traditions
4 External links



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Labour association
International Workers' Day is an international holiday celebrated on May 1st in commemoration of certain historic achievements of the labor movement and in remembrance of the 1886 Haymarket Riot in Chicago, Illinois. In countries other than the United States and United Kingdom, where the term has slightly different connotations, May Day is often referred to as Labor Day. In most other places of the world, the resident working classes fought hard to make May Day an official government-recognized holiday.

May Day has long been a focal point for demonstrations by various socialist, communist, and anarchist groups. In the 20th century, the holiday received the official endorsement of the Soviet Union; celebrations in communist countries during the Cold War era often consisted of large military parades and shows of common people in support of the government.


A May Day rally in Mumbai.

PFLP May Day poster

A rally in Stockholm, Sweden 1899.

1st May poster, Communist Poland

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May Day in the United Kingdom
In the United Kingdom, political events have sometimes split into two camps. The mainstream workers' movement celebrates May Day on the first Monday after May the first, which is the national Spring Bank Holiday and may or may not actually occur on 1 May. Small-scale rallies are held by political parties (generally including, but not limited to, the Labour Party, the Socialist Workers' Party, the Scottish Socialist Party, the Communist Party of Britain and other left-wing groups). These occasions are typified by the selling of propaganda materials, and beer tents in parks.

The actual date of 1 May in the U.K., meanwhile, generally features rallies and demonstrations organised by anarchist groups, although in recent years these have also involved communist groups, particularly those of the Trotskyist branch.

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May Day Militancy in Germany

May Day graffiti in Berlin. The text reads, "1 May: Cars burn, cops die." 'Bullen' (bulls, male cows) is a derogatory term used for the police.Berlin, Germany, particularly in the districts of Kreuzberg and Prenzlauer Berg, traditionally has yearly demonstrations on May Day. In 1929, the social democratic SPD government prohibited the annual May Day workers' demonstrations in Berlin. The communist party KPD, which was the strongest party in Berlin, called demonstrations nonetheless. By the end of the day, 32 demonstrators, workers and bystanders had been killed by the police, at least 80 were seriously injured. The Berlin police, under control of the supposedly pro-labor social democratic government, had fired a total of 11,000 rounds of live ammunition.

This incident, remembered as Blutmai (ger.) (blood May) deepened the split between the workers' parties KPD and SPD. This gave an advantage to the Nazis, who became Germany's governing party in 1933, partly due to the fact that the KPD and SPD had been unable to form an anti-Nazi coalition. The Nazis adapted May Day to their purposes, calling it the "day of work", which is still the official name for this public holiday. Ironically, just after May Day - to be more precise, on May 2, 1933 - the Nazis outlawed all free labor unions and other independent workers' organizations in Germany. The Reichsarbeitsdienst (or RAD, Reich Labour Service) was formed in July 1934 as an amalgamation of the outlawed unions.

In today's Germany May Day is still of political importance, with labor unions and parties using this day for political campaigns and activities, but since 1987 it has also become known for heavy rioting by radical leftists, including the punk rock scene, Autonome and others, but also "regular" youths not fond of the police. However, violence from the political left has been on the decline in recent years, with May Day 2005 in Berlin being the most peaceful in nearly 23 years.

In recent years, neo-nazis and other groups on the far right like the NPD have also used the day to schedule public demonstrations, often leading to clashes with left-wing protesters, which turned especially violent in the historical city of Leipzig in 1998 and 2005.

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EuroMayDay
Since 2001, EuroMayDay has become part of the celebration of the First of May, aiming to update the political content of the traditional May Day. The point of reference of EuroMayDay is not the industrial working class, but rather the multitude of increasingly precarized post-fordist flex/temp/networkers. EuroMayDay aims to create visible opposition against precarization of labour and life. EuroMayDay was originated in Milan, Italy, from where it first spread to Barcelona in 2004 and then to over a dozen cities all over Europe in 2005. In 2005, approximately 200.000 people took part in the Europe-wide EuroMayDay.

In 2005, the EuroMayDay network used the slogan Precarious of the world let's unite and strike 4 a free open radical Europe. The Middlesex Declaration of Europe's Precariat 2004 emerged from the Beyond ESF event held in parallel to the European Social Forum held in London in September 2004. In 2006, even more cities are taking part in EuroMayDay. The amount of participants has increased from 5000 people in Milan in 2001 to 50.000 in 2003 and 100.000 in 2004 (Milan and Barcelona altogether). EuroMayDay Cities have included Amsterdam, Barcelona, Copenhagen, Hamburg, Helsinki, Jyväskylä, L'Aquila, Leon, Liege, London, Maribor, Marseilles, Milan, Naples, Palermo, Paris, Seville, Stockholm and Vienna. External link:

Euromayday website
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Governmental Resistance to May Day
The United States is one of only a very few remaining places in the world where May Day has neither official governmental sanction nor massive marches (500,000-1,000,000 people or more) in the streets on the actual day. The situation in the U.S. is particularly ironic given that it is the country in which the Haymarket Riots occurred. The adoption of May Day around the time of the Haymarket events by the worldwide socialist and communist movements as their primary holiday cements official resistance to this expression of the day in the U.S. The Government of the United States has attempted to create other holidays for the day of 1 May in order to further discourage the celebration of May Day.

Canada, Australia, and New Zealand also celebrate Labour Day on different dates, which has to do with how the holiday originated in those countries; see also Loyalty Day and Law Day.

In a separate attempt to co-opt May Day, the Roman Catholic Church added another Saint Joseph's Day in 1955 that Christianized 1 May as the day of "Saint Joseph, the Worker". It is perhaps surprising that the Church did not take this step earlier, to distract attention from the traditionally virile pagan celebrations of May Day.

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Other Traditions

Morris dancing on May Day, Oxford 2004.Traditional English May Day rites and celebrations include Morris dancing, crowning a May Queen, celebrating Green Man day and dancing around a Maypole. Much of this tradition derives from the pagan festival of Beltane.

In Oxford on May Morning, many pubs are open from sunrise, and some of the college bars are open all night. Madrigals are still sung from the roof of the tower of Magdalen College, with thousands gathering on Magdalen Bridge to listen. Traditionally, revellers have jumped from the bridge into the River Cherwell below as part of the celebrations. About one hundred people did this in 2005. The river, however, was then only three feet deep in places and more than half of those who jumped needed medical treatment.
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May Day has long been a communist, socialist "holiday" if you will. I question the timing of this.
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this was edited a little to make it fit in within the 10,000 letter limit of this forum....

[sinton66]

Mmmmmmmm, verrrry interrresting!:D

[mistanice]

One Question. Do any of you guys know who taught the early americans the Cowboy way? Cowboy 101?

[mistanice]

Do you guys really believe that Mexico's president will want to partner up with the U.S. and help control the borders effectively? Mexico's number one source of income comes from the "illegals" sendning money back to their home country.

[sinton66]

I'm not sure what you read here that would lead to that question, but no, I doubt any of us believes that at all.

[Bandera YaYa]

Man, after reading that article.....talk about biting the hand that feeds ya! I doubt that this so called boycott of buying American products will hurt anyone except Wally World.....Oh please......hey, maybe WE should not buy anything made in Mexico...jobs being provided to them by American companies....NOW THAT would hurt, seeing how much is made in Mexico! Geezzzzz...talk about ungrateful! Send them all back, every last one of them ingrates!!! Just like them to follow blindly....I wish they would grow a brain and actually think for themselves!!! IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT HERE, LEAVE!!!! :mad: :mad: :hand:

[Keith7]

Originally posted by Bandera YaYa
hey, maybe WE should not buy anything made in Mexico..

lol good luck with that!! u realize the reason why the stuff at your "wally world" is so cheap is because half of it is made by the cheap work of mexicans

[sinton3055]

Someone said something about make them serve the military, I'm Mexican and served 8 yrs in the military. Also they wouldn't do that good E-1- E-5 in 3 yrs not to bad for a Mexican, at least were not serving for the TALIBAN, does anyone remember that gringo named WALKER. Why start these threads crying about this like 3adownlow is gonna resolve it its a sports message board. Just as I was typing these I saw a army commercial and the guys were mexican.

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by mistanice
One Question. Do any of you guys know who taught the early americans the Cowboy way? Cowboy 101? The Vaqueros.

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by sinton3055
Someone said something about make them serve the military, I'm Mexican and served 8 yrs in the military. Also they wouldn't do that good E-1- E-5 in 3 yrs not to bad for a Mexican, at least were not serving for the TALIBAN, does anyone remember that gringo named WALKER. Why start these threads crying about this like 3adownlow is gonna resolve it its a sports message board. Just as I was typing these I saw a army commercial and the guys were mexican.

No one said anything about requiring Mexican-Americans to join the military... it's about immigrants... And not all immigrants are from Mexico anyway, you racist!!!

This latest reply is probably the biggest reason this whole issue is pissing me off... Mexican-Americans/Mexican Illegals thing this is all about Mexico... it's not, it's about any other country out there, Mexico just takes center stage because it is the source of a great majority of illegals...

Illegas, whether they be white, brown, green, yellow, orange and metallic blue, Canadian, Russian, Indian, Chinese, Japanese or Plutonese are all included in this debate...

Don't flatter yourself, Mexico!!!

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by sinton66
The border troubles between the US and Mexico have been going on for as long as I can remember. It's usually one sided in favor of Mexico because the US makes concessions. They have kidnapped ATF, Customs, and DEA agents working undercover (with the permission of the Mexican Federal Government) by the dozens down there. I was in Mexico City in the Summer of 2004 and was told don't dare take a taxi. Many Americans each year are kidnapped and held for ransome. Funny how the media never covers this.:thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

[Gobbla2001]

"Remember, nothing gringo on May 1,"

Hmmm, hope the peramedics aren't white if these folks should be injured in a wreck or something...

We're just talking about illegal residents vs. legal residents here... they want to say "Nothing Gringo"... f'ers...

You know I'm not gunna buy nothing illegal-mexican tommorow, like a ride in the tool-box of a truck going across the border or something (sure there's a fee)...

I'll buy illegal-African stuff though...

[Bulldog_12]

Originally posted by sinton66
Bulldog_12,
That's a very good point.

Thanks, but I havent been on here in about 4 days. Ill take the compliment just the same though.:D

and I am going to crack up when this "boycott" falls flat on its face.

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
"Remember, nothing gringo on May 1,"

Hmmm, hope the peramedics aren't white if these folks should be injured in a wreck or something...

We're just talking about illegal residents vs. legal residents here... they want to say "Nothing Gringo"... f'ers...

You know I'm not gunna buy nothing illegal-mexican tommorow, like a ride in the tool-box of a truck going across the border or something (sure there's a fee)...

I'll buy illegal-African stuff though...

Hmm, just read the thread about the definition of Grrrrrringo... interesting, guy at work always says it when talking about white people (he's Mexican, we joke around racially all of the time there)...

Oh well, the better hope the paramedics aren't American... :confused: