Why did Bivins quit coaching at Caldwell?

[xlr8]

All sorts of rumors. Anyone's input?

[CHS_CG]

All I know is he is teaching full time.. I can probably as a few of the players if i see any of them.. will try to get back with you!

[FormerBellvilleBrahma]

Is Bivins your AD and Head coach?

[xlr8]

Nope, assistant who had success as a teacher an asst. coach in and coached in East Bernard before I hear was chased away because he would smart off to parents. Whether it's true, who knows.

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by xlr8
Nope, assistant who had success in Cuero and East Bernard

He was an asst in Cuero a long time ago........

[crabman]

Story I heard was it was simply a matter of the time that coaching takes. Lots of time for relatively little money.

[chugbug]

In Bivins case, whatever they paid him was too much.:eek: :eek: :tongue: :weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

[xlr8]

I heard he and Williams couldn't see eye to eye. Many different versions of who thought they should be in charge. Because he graduated from Caldwell, I think he assumed he was up for head coach job last year. Who knows.

[caldwellguard62]

Well I would happy to give you the right reason from experience Bivins said he wants to watch his kids play and he is taking over a family business and there wasnt no room for coaching he said. It is true that him and Williams never saw eye to eye but really nobody can with Williams.

[xlr8]

Well, does that mean that he doesn't have the players' respect and the team will give a half-a$$ effort again until the last three games? If so, I'd like to save admission. Not to be rude, but losing to Hearne and La Grange last year was downright funny.

[Gobbla2001]

Bivins was my U.S. History teacher my freshman year in HS... he's one of the funniest folks I've ever known, and he wasn't trying to be funny (AKA: I have a dry sense of humor)... minus that time he gave me a lick in the field-house because my dog ate my homework... ouch...

[Gobbla2001]

in reference to xlr8:

If he infact did lose the kids' respect, it was not because of anything that he did wrong... he's not that big on sense of humor (he's a serious man)... that could have been the case??? Maybe he just wasn't 'fun' enough???

HE wasn't the kind to really raise his voice, yell at the kids and put them down or what have you... he taught you what to do, how to do it and if you didn't he'd find someone who was either more eager to learn or better fit his philosophy...

maybe it was the kids' problem... or maybe it just wasn't gellin'???

It's not always the coach's fault...

[LiquidAlloyedSteel]

I've observed this staff and I was impressed! Bivins and Williams are both GREAT coaches. Both are leaders and both want the most out of the kids. Bivins is a no nonsense coach and will give a kid "the shirt off his back" if the kid is worth a grain of salt. Williams pushes all the buttons ALL the time. He will out work you and he is driven to get the top effort out of kids. Both of these guys are different in some ways, but both push kids to get the max effort and performance! xlr8 you seem bitter and I hope you know that kids from Caldwell read this site and respect their coaches. They may not "like" all their coaches but I know they respect their coaches, including Williams and Bivins. Caldwell lost some games like Hearne on big plays, and yes they should have won the La Grange game, but the staff and kids busted their butts and played hard ALL season. I'm not the expert you might be, but I was proud off the kids! Oh yeah, they played in 19-3A, remember! Look out for the Hornets next season, they are in new district and they will come to play and they will be ready!

I'll Be Back!

[Gobbla2001]

Also, it was mentioned in this thread that Bivins wants to watch his kids play...

His oldest one seemed to be the momma's boy type, but was still tougher than most of the kids his age... but the younger son seemed to like to whup on the older at times... I think the younger son will seriously injure quite a few players when he suits up...

I remember Coach Bivins telling a story about his younger son once... said he was throwing a rubber football in the house... it took a weird bounce and the younger son went after it at full speed... he wasn't paying attention and ran full-speed into the table with his forehead closelining himself... Coach Bivins said his son laughed, grabbed the football and brought it back to him...

[jdog93]

I Don't Know why he Quit.

[CHS_CG]

Talked to my ex that is a senior this year tonight, said the way hes been seein it bivins got ran out of coaching bc of the way he was handling some things... wouldnt doubt it after some of the stuff i've heard from other schools.

[xlr8]

With all due respect, I was ASKING if the kids didn't respect Williams because of the negative comment CaldwellGuard made about how nobody saw eye to eye with Williams.

Caldwell kids have always had the potential to go places, but lacked someone on the coaching staff who educated them on other teams in the region and state, not just in district.

Yes, they're in a new league, but Bellville and Navasota are no slouches and rival Cameron and Hutto in strength.

If they can open the season with a win over 4A Elgin (who was WINLESS last year) and beat Rockdale and Hearne and start out 3-0 it could be the right momentum builder, but Caldwell has always made the mistake of playing catch up and putting themselves in must-win situations when they were at the mercy of point systems.

If they would get the attitude that they CONTROL their own destiny just like Hutto did, there would have been a different burnt orange and white team playing at Texas Stadium against Tatum, people. They held Hutto to a tie in the first half despite having a first-year coach and new system.

I know Williams was a very capable defensive coach, but the key will be hiring new assistants who reward do-gooders and sideline dead weights.

[xlr8]

Originally posted by CHS_CG
Talked to my ex that is a senior this year tonight, said the way hes been seein it bivins got ran out of coaching bc of the way he was handling some things... wouldnt doubt it after some of the stuff i've heard from other schools.

The sports guy who covered East Bernard when Bivins was there said he was a jerk and I'm just repeating what I heard so I can't offer an opinion.

[chugbug]

If Caldwell thinks that Bellville and Navasota are pushovers, they are in for a rude awakening. I see them finishing 4th. They cannot beat Giddings, Bellville,or Navasota. :eek: :eek: :tongue: :weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

[CHS_CG]

Originally posted by chugbug
If Caldwell thinks that Bellville and Navasota are pushovers, they are in for a rude awakening. I see them finishing 4th. They cannot beat Giddings, Bellville,or Navasota. :eek: :eek: :tongue: :weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

I said that from DAY 1 when i found out we were in that district...

I have also heard from some players Bivins "technique" is rather.. aggressive...

he seems to have a string of "situations" that have occured at his schools.:thinking:

[xlr8]

Originally posted by chugbug
If Caldwell thinks that Bellville and Navasota are pushovers, they are in for a rude awakening. I see them finishing 4th. They cannot beat Giddings, Bellville,or Navasota. :eek: :eek: :tongue: :weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

It's one thing for someone with knowledge or connections to a town to identify weaknesses, but something altogether more insulting to come from an outsider.

For the record, Caldwell has handed Navasota its butt on a platter three of the four times they've met, including both meetings in the playoffs. Why Caldwell gets up for the snakes I can't explain, possibly because that game has meant so much each time. It proved the Hornets' capability under pressure, if anything.

Giddings with its returning QB should be strong, and Bellville is at a point where it can rely on tradition to win at least seven games a year regardless of necessary rebuilding.

Caldwell has strong enough underclassmen coming up to clinch at least third, maybe second with the right attitude. Navasota will battle, yes, with a good coach like Fedora (whose dad is a Caldwell alum).

La Grange may surprise a few, and Smithville, well, nuff said.

Don't sell Caldwell too short. They scared Cameron until the end of the that game last year and was tied with Hutto at 14 until miscues in the second half. Stats were impressive, though.

[CHS_CG]

With the underclass man we have coming up I am hoping we do good.. but I know bellville and Giddings are gunna be a challenge for us! Navasota i can only hope we do what we did in the play offs the year after i graduated.. have a close game and come out on top!

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by xlr8
...and Bellville is at a point where it can rely on tradition to win at least seven games a year regardless of necessary rebuilding....
Bellville will be one of the top five teams in the state next year. They could hang with anyone last year and just about the whole team returns.

[xlr8]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
Bellville will be one of the top five teams in the state next year. They could hang with anyone last year and just about the whole team returns.

Wasn't pin-pointing this year, but any year they could overcome rebuilding challenges.

[chugbug]

Bellville is not in a rebuilding year. Their soon to be senior class is one of the best that they have ever had. Bellville will be better than they have been in a long time. I know that it may be hard to believe for some people, but that's the way it is. This could be Bellville's best shot at winning it all. I am an outsider. I don't give a rats a@# that it may hurt your feelings, but I feel your best shot is fourth behind Giddings, Bellville and Navasota.:eek: :eek: :tongue: :weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

[CHS_CG]

Originally posted by chugbug
Bellville is not in a rebuilding year. Their soon to be senior class is one of the best that they have ever had. Bellville will be better than they have been in a long time. I know that it may be hard to believe for some people, but that's the way it is. This could be Bellville's best shot at winning it all. I am an outsider. I don't give a rats a@# that it may hurt your feelings, but I feel your best shot is fourth behind Giddings, Bellville and Navasota.:eek: :eek: :tongue: :weeping: :weeping: :weeping:


hey have your opinion about Caldwell's team this year.. (Lord knows I do) but just be a man and eat crow if we prove you wrong!

[chugbug]

I hope that they prove me wrong. I have no loveloss for Navasota. I hope it is Giddings, Bellville and Caldwell. Go Hornets:eek: :eek: :tongue: :weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

[xlr8]

Originally posted by chugbug
Bellville is not in a rebuilding year. Their soon to be senior class is one of the best that they have ever had. Bellville will be better than they have been in a long time. I know that it may be hard to believe for some people, but that's the way it is. This could be Bellville's best shot at winning it all. I am an outsider. I don't give a rats a@# that it may hurt your feelings, but I feel your best shot is fourth behind Giddings, Bellville and Navasota.:eek: :eek: :tongue: :weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

Grow up, old man!

You'll never be what Sealy was in the 90's!

You're only intimidated by Giddings because they castrated your Brahmas in bi-district... that's the first round of the playoffs, by the way. :hand:

[chugbug]

T@#D, Don't mistake me for anyone who gives a s@#t about Bellville.:eek: :eek: :tongue: :weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

[xlr8]

Originally posted by chugbug
T@#D, Don't mistake me for anyone who gives a s@#t about Bellville.:eek: :eek: :tongue: :weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

Sorry, I just assumed since you use crying images so often. :-)

[chugbug]

I don't care about Giddings, Bellville or Navasota. What I was trying to do was tell you guys not to take them lightly. I hope Caldwell beats them all. They will be a force to be reconded with.:eek: :eek: :tongue: :weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

[xlr8]

Originally posted by chugbug
I don't care about Giddings, Bellville or Navasota. What I was trying to do was tell you guys not to take them lightly. I hope Caldwell beats them all. They will be a force to be reconded with.:eek: :eek: :tongue: :weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

Caldwell is ALWAYS competitive. They just need to do homework more often and not let their guard down or start giving more than 60 percent effort before getting behind by 10 points with four minutes left in every game.

There's an old joke around town:

What's the difference between a dollar bill and the Hornet football program? With the money, you get four quarters.....

Does that tell ya something?


:thinking:

[caldwellguard62]

Hey xlr8 I really dont appreciate what you said about us. We were a good team this year but we had some players on the team that just cared about themselves, and you cant win with that. It will be a struggle for Caldwell to come out of that district. They could finish 3rd at best. And xlr8 you can just stop talking all that crap about us.

[xlr8]

Originally posted by caldwellguard62
Hey xlr8 I really dont appreciate what you said about us. We were a good team this year but we had some players on the team that just cared about themselves, and you cant win with that. It will be a struggle for Caldwell to come out of that district. They could finish 3rd at best. And xlr8 you can just stop talking all that crap about us.

You mean to tell me that off-season hasn't even started and everyone has already accepted the mindset that the best they can do with all the unbeaten JV players coming up is THIRD in district?

Damn, with that attitude you guys are gonna lose to Smithville. You wouldn't last a week in Cuero, Tatum or Cameron.

If Cobia would have heard that talk, he would have PERSONALLY escorted you off the team, pal! You talk about low self esteem.....

Translation: Hey mom and dad, come to our game if you just absolutely HAVE to because we're probably gonna lose. That way we don't have to break a sweat too much and nobody will have a reason to get their hopes up and they won't be disappointed.

It's time for someone to tell Williams that someone on the coaching staff is doing a p*ss poor job of motivating a "we can" mentality. Recommendation: Just pay for a letter jacket to show off and that way you don't have to break a fingernail getting on that pesky, annoying field.

If that don't beat all. Two words: Destination 1-9!

I'd rather hear you being cocky than that. Geez. Who needs to talk "crap" about any team when teammates like you are talking enough crap about your potential to make up for the entire town.

Fans get on here in hopes that they'll have something to look forward to in the fall and you've accepted defeat before the first kickoff.

ATTITUDE DETERMINES ALTITUDE, my friend. If it really takes an article in the Rockdale newspaper to fire up the team again, then you better get some Rosary beads, kneal by your bedside and pray for fifth place.

[caldwellguard62]

Hey pal I'm not going to even be on that team next year and off season has started. Dumba@@. You talk about being scared to break a nail on the field I wasn't supposed to play this year cuz I was suppose to have surgery but I went through the whole season playing. And one other thing are you like the 40 year old guy still living on your old football days and ragging on the high school kids now. If so I only got one thing to say to you
Get A Life.

[cgaceb]

Originally posted by caldwellguard62
Well I would happy to give you the right reason from experience Bivins said he wants to watch his kids play and he is taking over a family business and there wasnt no room for coaching he said. It is true that him and Williams never saw eye to eye but really nobody can with Williams.

This is almost true. I got out of coaching because of 350 acres of land and 60 head of cattle and all that goes with that. No, coaches don't get paid enough but it was the time that got me.
As far as Williams is concerned, there were no conflicts, he understood I didn't have time to coach anymore and he helped me get out.

xlr8 you are part of the problem in Caldwell not part of the solution and you dont know jack.

chs_cg you are another Caldwellian who doesn't know jack and yes you are a future cry baby parent who will be at the field house whining everytime your little baby has to work.

[CHS_CG]

Originally posted by cgaceb

chs_cg you are another Caldwellian who doesn't know jack and yes you are a future cry baby parent who will be at the field house whining everytime your little baby has to work.


Sorry.. but you couldnt be more wrong! For one, my child is a LONG way from being apart of any high school sports.. I had to work *and am still working hard* for a lot of crap in my life here lately, which was my choice/mistake, which ever way you wanna look at it. I think whinny cry baby parents needa just get off the tit if you ask me.. if your son or daughter cant handle being part of a team and working at a goal WITH the time.. then they dont need to be part of that team.... we often tell players "there is no 'I' in TEAM" Personally we need to be telling players less and parents more.

As far as from what I hear.. I said I couldnt confrim jack crap.. ALOT of what I hear is from people who have dealt with it personally. As for me, I havent, dont care to one way or the other. I think its great you wanna watch your kids grow up, and run your business, honestly. I have nothing against you, havent really met you, but some stuff you hear, with proof, is hard to ignore.. if its true or not, I never said.