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olddawggreen
02-08-2006, 07:59 PM
These are 10 of the 12 forbidden Danish cartoons that have caused Muslims to attack and burn embassys, threaten to kill westerners, and boycott Danish goods in countries around the world. Pretty bad huh? Yea, right.

http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/3728/danish0033wy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/2302/danish0049ov.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/9733/danish0051zo.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img435.imageshack.us/img435/6134/danish0061vc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/3288/danish0076eq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9953/danish0082py.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/460/danish0095az.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/345/danish0106is.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1800/danish0110mb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/6223/danish0120ki.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

olddawggreen
02-08-2006, 08:02 PM
These are the other 2.:eek: :eek:

http://img274.imageshack.us/img274/1539/danish16el.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7357/danish0021nd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

luvhoops34
02-09-2006, 01:06 AM
Thanks for posting those....I was wondering what was so dang bad. Absolutely nothing....

NateDawg39
02-09-2006, 01:10 AM
I am sure that they have there reasons but killing people and burning things down seems a bit over active to me. Yet the culture over there is different than that of our own so take in mind that everyone handles such matters with different acts of "rage".

SintonFan
02-09-2006, 01:13 AM
Over here when we act like they act it's called "going postal" and tends to be frowned upon.

Manck
02-09-2006, 01:24 AM
never mind. i rambled and forgot what i was going for.

sahen
02-09-2006, 02:46 AM
they have written in the koran that you can't have images of Muhammad because of idolatry reasons....the extremist are using this as an opportunity to get people on their side and attack the west, namely embassys....in the past days they have begun to really attack Americans in Afghanistan which makes no sense since we had nothing to do with the drawings but we are the example of the western infidels.....anyway....thats y they are doing it....you have to remember in their countries they dont have freedom like we do, especially freedom of the press so they dont understand this....however, on that note they need to realize that other countries dont have the same laws and beliefs as them....

shankbear
02-09-2006, 08:56 AM
They hate. It is their way of life and death. Pure hate. Sad.

olddawggreen
02-09-2006, 09:09 AM
Whats sad is that this is a case of extreemist basicly hijacking a religion for their own hateful purposes, and apparently the majority of the faithful who do not believe in violence are too afraid to make a stand against them.

SintonFan
02-09-2006, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by sahen
they have written in the koran that you can't have images of Muhammad because of idolatry reasons....the extremist are using this as an opportunity to get people on their side and attack the west, namely embassys....
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Actually, the Koran has no mention against creating images of Muhammad. This is a new custom, entirely.

STANG RED
02-09-2006, 10:01 AM
Now that these images have been posted on the DL, are we all targets now? Just kidding. Since we are all free Americans, we are all targets anyway. I just wish all the liberals would realize it. These extreamists, cannot be bargined with.

Phil C
02-09-2006, 10:33 AM
These should never have been made or published. All religious beliefs should be respected and the Danish should never have published these cartoons. Why create a hazzle and offend people? We know how the Muslims take their religion very seriously and the risk at offending them should not have been done. This has caused more misunderstandings that should have been avoided in the first place. You may disagree with another's religion but you should not offend them just because of that. We must be tolerant and understanding. There are enough problems and grief in the world without adding fuel to the fire.

Black_Magic
02-09-2006, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Phil C
These should never have been made or published. All religious beliefs should be respected and the Danish should never have published these cartoons. Why create a hazzle and offend people? We know how the Muslims take their religion very seriously and the risk at offending them should not have been done. This has caused more misunderstandings that should have been avoided in the first place. You may disagree with another's religion but you should not offend them just because of that. We must be tolerant and understanding. There are enough problems and grief in the world without adding fuel to the fire. Agreed. BUT, where were the mass protest in the islamic world after 9/11?? you will kill because of a cartoon? but not even protest because of suicied bombers???

Bullaholic
02-09-2006, 10:52 AM
I very strongly support America, our President, and our troops. However, I question the wisdom of upholding the freedom of the press issue by re-publishing cartoons which have the strong possibility of causing loss of life all over the world just to prove a point. I do not endorse the extremist views and actions of renegade Muslim radicals who seize on this issue as a mandate to take human life either.

olddawggreen
02-09-2006, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by Phil C
These should never have been made or published. All religious beliefs should be respected and the Danish should never have published these cartoons. Why create a hazzle and offend people? We know how the Muslims take their religion very seriously and the risk at offending them should not have been done. This has caused more misunderstandings that should have been avoided in the first place. You may disagree with another's religion but you should not offend them just because of that. We must be tolerant and understanding. There are enough problems and grief in the world without adding fuel to the fire.

I agree Phil C, nor should the following cartoons have been printed in Arab newspapers in various Arab countries last year;

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/2060/alyawm12120059rr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/6208/alyawmsaudiarabia113020053yz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/9088/ffarabpresspropaganda20328hb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2582/ffarabpresspropaganda30416ri.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/2473/bahrain408043rq.gif (http://imageshack.us)
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1781/flagburnarabwomen1df.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I guess some things are acceptable and some things are not in the Arab Press. What is especially interesting is that many of the Arab news papers, that have run this type of anti semetic cartoons, are government controlled.

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Bullaholic
02-09-2006, 12:16 PM
I agree, Old Dawg---multiple "wrongs" never make a "right".

LH OffseasonVet
02-09-2006, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Phil C
These should never have been made or published. All religious beliefs should be respected and the Danish should never have published these cartoons. Why create a hazzle and offend people? We know how the Muslims take their religion very seriously and the risk at offending them should not have been done. This has caused more misunderstandings that should have been avoided in the first place. You may disagree with another's religion but you should not offend them just because of that. We must be tolerant and understanding. There are enough problems and grief in the world without adding fuel to the fire.

Phil makes a great point about how we shouldn't be adding fuel to an already heated fire, but neither should we tip toe around afraid of how others will react. Often times people concerned about others reactions never accomplish much, it holds true in relationships, business, and I would say world politics too. Don't ever do something just to get a rise out of people, but don't be scared to do something because someone will get angry. Of course I say this within the realms of practicallity. I think perhaps these cartoons should have been handled with a gentler hand and a smooth tongue, but the publication itself wasn't improper.

Bullaholic
02-09-2006, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by LH OffseasonVet
Phil makes a great point about how we shouldn't be adding fuel to an already heated fire, but neither should we tip toe around afraid of how others will react. Often times people concerned about others reactions never accomplish much, it holds true in relationships, business, and I would say world politics too. Don't ever do something just to get a rise out of people, but don't be scared to do something because someone will get angry. Of course I say this within the realms of practicallity. I think perhaps these cartoons should have been handled with a gentler hand and a smooth tongue, but the publication itself wasn't improper.

Again, LHOVet, there is a great difference between someone getting mad enough to demonstrate in the streets and destroy property, and someone getting mad enough to strap dynamite to their chest and run into a building full of "infidels" who they believe have "defiled" their god. We are dealing with such radical fundmentalism as this in many Muslim countries. The result is many innocent people who probably had nothing to do with the publication of these cartoons will lose their lives. I do not advocate that we live in "fear" of these types of reprisals, just as we never negotiate with terroriists, but I do think that more "restraint" could have been shown by the newspapers publishing these cartoons without compromising their journalistic freedoms.

zeus63
02-09-2006, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Bullaholic
Again, LHOVet, there is a great difference between someone getting mad enough to demonstrate in the streets and destroy property, and someone getting mad enough to strap dynamite to their chest and run into a building full of "infidels" who they believe have "defiled" their god. We are dealing with such radical fundmentalism as this in many Muslim countries. The result is many innocent people who probably had nothing to do with the publication of these cartoons will lose their lives. I do not advocate that we live in "fear" of these types of reprisals, just as we never negotiate with terroriists, but I do think that more "restraint" could have been shown by the newspapers publishing these cartoons without compromising their journalistic freedoms.

Well put!!! Without getting into a who did what first argument it should be pointed out that kind of censonship does not exist in most Muslim countries when they are doing it to someone else's country or religion. In fact, most times the governement is the one promoting it, or at least encouraging it. It comes down to that old statement "If you can't take it, don't dish it out." Probably a little immature to think that way, but I've been there and hope I never have to go back, because those people are nuts.

Aesculus gilmus
02-09-2006, 02:10 PM
None of this would make any difference at all if the Arabs and Persians weren't sitting on two-thirds of the world's remaining oil.

Instead, we will experience perpetual war for the rest of our lifetimes, which may not be that much longer at the rate things are deteriorating worldwide.

Buccaneer
02-09-2006, 03:32 PM
Can't we all get alongneck?

SintonFan
02-09-2006, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
None of this would make any difference at all if the Arabs and Persians weren't sitting on two-thirds of the world's remaining oil.

Instead, we will experience perpetual war for the rest of our lifetimes, which may not be that much longer at the rate things are deteriorating worldwide.
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World War 3 is here. It started when the World Trade Center went down in flames. I wonder and worry if Nostradamus was correct only when it pertains to self-fulfilling prophecies.
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I beg to differ that because of that region's ability to produce oil all of this might have happened, might not have or if any differences of occurances may have been. That area of the world has been a powder keg for a long long time. I've been amazed at how arrogant some from there really are. One such was a former professor of mine. After I graduated from college and after 911 he ended up on a FBI terrorist list. Bummer cuz I knew he was also a great teacher.:(
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We really do need Iraq and Afghanistan to be beacons of hope for the whole area, region and for those who practice their religion.

Aesculus gilmus
02-10-2006, 07:20 AM
Good luck with those "beacon of hope" projects. I hope you don't bankrupt the American taxpayers first. The Iraqis just voted in a Shi'ite theocracy. We apparently didn't have time to rig their elections through "hackable" computers the way they are in this country.

What I meant was that if there weren't any oil there, they wouldn't have any reason to be arrogant. They wouldn't even be able to afford a plane ticket here.

Some of the Iranians (who are not Arabs) would probably have done well and raised their standard of living regardless of whether oil had been discovered or not, but that is definitely not true with respect to our great "allies" in Saudi Arabia (who played a major role in fanning the flames of the "cartoon war").