My Region 1 and 2 Realignment Projections

[Matthew328]

1-3A
Amarillo River Road
Dalhart
Canyon
Borger
Perryton

2-3A
Littlefield
Brownfield
Lubbock Cooper
Levelland
Seminole

3-3A
Clint
Fabens
Pecos
Ft Stockton
Monahans
Midland Greenwood

4-3A
Andrews
Lamesa
Sweetwater
Snyder
Abilene Wylie
Merkel
Clyde

5-3A
Burkburnett
WF Hirschi
Iowa Park
Vernon
Breckenridge
Graham

6-3A
Bowie
Gainesville
Sanger
Argyle
Bridgeport
Decatur

7-3A
Celina
Pilot Point
Prosper
Frisco Wakeland
Pottsboro
Whitesboro

8-3A
Glen Rose
Venus
Kennedale
Whitney
Hillsboro

9-3A
River Oaks Castleberry
FW Diamond Hill
Lake Worth
Carrollton Ranchview
Dallas Madison
Dallas Roosevelt

10-3A
Van Alstyne
Bonham
Princeton
Farmersville
Nevada Community
Royse City

11-3A
Ferris
Crandall
Kemp
Kaufman
Wills Point

12-3A
Athens
Mabank
Eustace
Brownsboro
Canton
Van

13-3A
Commerce
Quinlan Ford
Mt Vernon
Emory Rains
Winnsboro

14-3A
Tyler Chapel Hill
Bullard
Longview Spring Hill
White Oak
Center
Carthage

15-3A
Gilmer
Gladewater
Sabine
Mineola
Pittsburg

16-3A
Atlanta
Texarkana Liberty-Eylau
Texarkana Pleasant Grove
Daingerfield
New Boston

I did a little editing....

[injuredinmelee]

I cringe every time I think about Everman being back in 3A. I know it isnt ont he list but I still cringe.

[GreenMonster]

What kind of numbers did Breckenridge turn in? I thought they would drop to 2A this go round.

[Phantom Stang]

If Clint, and Fabens don't get waivers to stay in 4A,
they are in for some LONG bus rides!!:eek:

[Matthew328]

we don't have an exact # for Breckenridge....but we estimate they'll be in the 440 range...last year they had around 450 enrolled....

niether Clint or Fabens are electing to stay 4A both AD's told us they'll play 3A...

[HighSchool Fan]

anyway you can get us out of region 1 :D

[3afan]

don't like those long drives, huh?

don't blame ya .......

[HighSchool Fan]

Originally posted by 3afan
don't like those long drives, huh?

don't blame ya .......

we got lucky this year, but i don't wanna take any chances of playing in the panhandle in the winter

[lostaussie]

15-3A
Gilmer
Gladewater
Sabine
Mineola
Pittsburg

i will be absolutely shocked if this district stays the same.

[Matthew328]

I thought so also...but looking at the #'s and the # of districts it may happen again....#'s getting thin in deep east texas...with the likes of Jefferson and Tatum now dropping to 2A most likely

[turbostud]

7-3A
Celina
Pilot Point
Prosper
Frisco Wakeland
Pottsboro
Whitesboro
Would this give Whitesboro a chance to make the playoffs? Can they beat Prosper or Pilot Point?

[VWG]

At the start of the school year, Breckenridge was up 60 students in the district. Now... I don't know how many that was in each grade from K-12 but I don't think Breckenridge would have turned in anything less than 450 students.

[HighSchool Fan]

Originally posted by turbostud
7-3A
Celina
Pilot Point
Prosper
Frisco Wakeland
Pottsboro
Whitesboro
Would this give Whitesboro a chance to make the playoffs? Can they beat Prosper or Pilot Point?

no, this year was whitesboro's best chance.

[Buccaneer]

Did I miss your Region 3 & 4 projections?

[Matthew328]

no I didn't post em...

[sweetwater07]

Originally posted by Matthew328
I thought so also...but looking at the #'s and the # of districts it may happen again....#'s getting thin in deep east texas...with the likes of Jefferson and Tatum now dropping to 2A most likely

with tatum and jefferson both probably dropping to 2A i would hate to be 2A team next year....only competition they will get maybe is childress and celina and crawford......3A Div. 2 state champs going to 2A....amazing!

[Matthew328]

Crawford will likley drop to 1A

[HighSchool Fan]

Originally posted by Matthew328
Crawford will likley drop to 1A

and celina most likely moving up to 3a

[Aesculus gilmus]

There are two schools you have in 3A that I thought were going down. Daingerfield has only 407 students. Sabine is like 416, I think.

I was looking forward to Gilmer having some new teams to play. This district is almost too easy for us. It doesn't adequately prepare us for the playoff, which is now the "real season" more than ever with all the dilution of the 3-team, 2-champ playoff policy of the UIL.

Never mind. I see on your other thread your prediction of a 404 cutoff. That is too low. It is not fair for schools that small to remain in 3A and, frankly, I am tired of traveling to their usually pathetic facilities.

Tatum is an exception. It is a small school sitting atop natural resources. Its facilties have always been excellent. It looks like our coach is going to break with his tradition of not ever playing 2A schools and schedule a game with them this season.

[EastTeXBulldog]

Are you predicting Carthage to move up to 4a? I don't see that happening, Carthage turned in 797.

[3afan]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
... This district is almost too easy for us....... tired of traveling to their usually pathetic facilities.


HP-like comments !!! :D

[HighSchool Fan]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
There are two schools you have in 3A that I thought were going down. Daingerfield has only 407 students. Sabine is like 416, I think.

I was looking forward to Gilmer having some new teams to play. This district is almost too easy for us. It doesn't adequately prepare us for the playoff, which is now the "real season" more than ever with all the dilution of the 3-team, 2-champ playoff policy of the UIL.

Never mind. I see on your other thread your prediction of a 404 cutoff. That is too low. It is not fair for schools that small to remain in 3A and, frankly, I am tired of traveling to their usually pathetic facilities.

Tatum is an exception. It is a small school sitting atop natural resources. Its facilties have always been excellent. It looks like our coach is going to break with his tradition of not ever playing 2A schools and schedule a game with them this season.

maybe i'm been missing something, but how long has gilmer been this great football team. to say your to good for a district is really a cheapshot at the other teams.

[Matthew328]

I actually left Carthage off on accident...its fixed..

[Ranger Mom]

EWWWW.........NOOOOOOOO!!!

Clint and Fabens!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Matthew328]

someone has to be with em....LOL

[Chris Hart]

Matthew, if you still have all your numbers handy, and if you find the time, would you check out how it would work with the 3A numbers being 440-1000? How many schools would that put in each classification? I've just heard rumor that the top 3A # could go as high as 1000, so that's what I'm hoping for, lol. If you don't have the time to do it, I understand. Thanks...:)

[Matthew328]

if you do it 440-1000 it would really throw a monkey wrench into class 4A...we played with the numbers some and we guessed 971.5 would be the low #...we were able to fill all the districts that way....I am sure you are hoping Burnet will drop...but I just don't see it happening...

[Chris Hart]

RATS!!!!!!!:(

[Aesculus gilmus]

Originally posted by HighSchool Fan
maybe i'm been missing something, but how long has gilmer been this great football team. to say your to good for a district is really a cheapshot at the other teams.

Gilmer has not lost a district game since October 2000 against Tatum, IIRC. I forget how long the streak is. And it's been accomplished in three different districts. Gilmer has won five district titles in a row, running the table each year.

Gilmer is not a rich district like HP, but the district does support the Buckeyes with a passion. And we do have some pretty good facilities now, including FieldTurf.

[Manck]

Originally posted by HighSchool Fan
maybe i'm been missing something, but how long has gilmer been this great football team. to say your to good for a district is really a cheapshot at the other teams.

5 years. That's it.

HOWEVER, in football, despite Pittsburg having turf, road games in Sabine and Pitt SUCKED because of the vistitor stands. Even when Gilmer was sub-standard in the late 90's, and the fans didn't seem to travel nearly as well, sitting in the stands at those two places required getting there at least two hours early. Now with the recent success, I can imagine that it's a disaster. Same with Bullard when we were in that district.

In other sports, I don't think that the Buckeyes are all that much better in EVERYTHING, even though I seem to hear about more and more success in the postseason from every sport these days. A lot of that has to do with better overall support for (and from) the athletic department, but there's something to be said about that district.

IMHO, it makes FAR more sense for Gilmer to be in a district similar to this one....
Gilmer
Gladewater
Sabine
White Oak
Spring Hill

Pitt should go north, and Mineola should be in the Tyler are district, seeing as it's only 10 miles north of Lindale.

Lindale
Bullard
Chapel Hill
Mineola
Rains

makes sense

Give Pitt to Rains' spot in 13

Commerce
Quinlan Ford
Mt Vernon
Pittsburg
Winnsboro

or leave Rains and give Pitt to 16.

Now, that leaves Center and Carthage out of the mix right there, so I'm not completely sure what I'd do with them, but maybe they'd work better with one of the Region III districts farther north (Palestine, Rusk, etc.?)

Just some thoughts, but I think it's ridiculous that Gilmer and White Oak (and Spring Hill) are 15 miles away from each other, and haven't been in the same district in what seems like ages.

[Matthew328]

you also have to remember there are problems in Tyler with Lindale moving up...one less team in the Tyler area....I think Canton and Van and Brownsboro go west with Athens and Mabank...

[Manck]

crap. totally didn't see that you'd moved Lindale up.

[Matthew328]

amazing how one team moving up can totally throw a monkey wrench into things..

[mwynn05]

So you think there will be lots of 5 team distircts again... that sucks

[Matthew328]

yes, the only way you couldn't have 5 team districts is to lower the cut to around 350 or raise it to 1000....not enough teams

[mwynn05]

Originally posted by Matthew328
yes, the only way you couldn't have 5 team districts is to lower the cut to around 350 or raise it to 1000....not enough teams dang 3a has really been deserted the past few years

[3afan]

not many options for the UIL

[HighSchool Fan]

Originally posted by Matthew328

6-3A
Bowie
Gainesville
Sanger
Argyle
Bridgeport
Decatur



i was thinking about this. if this was to happen, then you could possible have a team with almost 900 students in the D2 bracket next season.

[marlin fan]

nmmm did matt ever come out with regions 3 and 4 projections??

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by HighSchool Fan
i was thinking about this. if this was to happen, then you could possible have a team with almost 900 students in the D2 bracket next season.
It happened this year. :p

[HighSchool Fan]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
It happened this year. :p

UIL website has Tatum with 392 and Hutto with 517.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by HighSchool Fan
UIL website has Tatum with 392 and Hutto with 517.
Well, that was two years ago. Hutto is way bigger than that now. :p

[STANG RED]

Originally posted by HighSchool Fan
i was thinking about this. if this was to happen, then you could possible have a team with almost 900 students in the D2 bracket next season.

It happens every year. All it takes is two large schools in a district make the playoffs. Check this out for instants. If Andrews and A. Wylie happen to end up in the same district next year, A. Wylie could actually be the D2 rep. I havnt seen any official numbers yet, but there probably wont be 20 students different in each their counts.

[Matthew328]

I am hearing we could have 4 team districts in 3A if the UIL is really wanting to keep the 2-1 ratio....

[tex_male]

I think Abilene Wylie replaces Andrews spot in 4A

[SnyTigBaseB07]

I like the 4-3A line up.....

[MHSvarsity2007]

Originally posted by SnyTigBaseB07
I like the 4-3A line up.....

i dont!! look at merkel, we're the smallest again!!

((idk about lamesas enrollment))

[SnyTigBaseB07]

Well i said i like it, but i do feel sorry for Merkel i dont feel its fair to push them to play these teams i think maybe a few years in a diff. district where ya'll are evenly matched would work better, but its not about opinion its about the numbers.

[MHSvarsity2007]

Originally posted by SnyTigBaseB07
Well i said i like it, but i do feel sorry for Merkel i dont feel its fair to push them to play these teams i think maybe a few years in a diff. district where ya'll are evenly matched would work better, but its not about opinion its about the numbers.

thats true...oh well we're used to it by now...

[SnyTigBaseB07]

Thats the bad thing though, ya'll kinda know how yall are going to do each year, so the team morale is that high i bet. Who knows though next year the teams will be alot different than this year.

[MHSvarsity2007]

Originally posted by SnyTigBaseB07
Thats the bad thing though, ya'll kinda know how yall are going to do each year, so the team morale is that high i bet. Who knows though next year the teams will be alot different than this year.

we've always been the underdog and yea we basically know how we are going to do each year and even if the moral is high, it just gets crushed when our teams get slaughtered....

[mwynn05]

Seems like the problem is mental

[SnyTigBaseB07]

Originally posted by mwynn05
Seems like the problem is mental

That and the fact they play Snyder, S'water, Wylie, Monohans too


Not exactly easy to win if you're not 100 percent

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Matthew328
I am hearing we could have 4 team districts in 3A if the UIL is really wanting to keep the 2-1 ratio....
That sounds like a boneheaded move on the UIL's part, but I'm sure it wouldn't the first. Sheesh, we're already having a hard time finding teams that are willing to play us, much less if we have to fill 2 additional non-district games.

[Matthew328]

is it really a boneheaded move....because if the UIL filled 3A up with at least six team districts then you'd have an enrollment disparity of like 400-1000 or maybe 330-920 and then people would scream about too high a difference in enrollment...


to be honest for class 3A there is no real good way to do things...heck if it were me doing realignment I'd make 3A only have 16 districts with 8 teams in each district...take the top end and put em 4A and the bottom end in 2A...the difference there wouldn't be as great, the reason being is you have a ton of schools in that 800-920ish range and a ton of schools 450 and under....not many between which causes all the problems...

[tex_male]

1-3A
Amarillo River Road
Dalhart
Canyon
Borger
Perryton
Lubbock Cooper

2-3A
Littlefield
Brownfield
Lemesa
Levelland
Seminole

3-3A
Clint
Fabens
Pecos
Ft Stockton
Monahans
Either Greenwood
Or Andrews

4-3A
Sweetwater
Snyder
Merkel
Clyde
Either Greenwood or
Andrews

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Matthew328
is it really a boneheaded move....because if the UIL filled 3A up with at least six team districts then you'd have an enrollment disparity of like 400-1000 or maybe 330-920 and then people would scream about too high a difference in enrollment...
Maybe it's not, unless no one wants to play you. :(

[tex_male]

need to create a 6A level

[Matthew328]

where is Abilene Wylie in this scenario??

[tex_male]

4a take Andrews spot

[Matthew328]

hypothetical if LH goes to a 4 team loop....you'll still play Burnet I bet..the series w/Hutto should continue..I'd bet they'd still play..maybe Manor would still play ya...maybe you could schedule Cuero they aren't afraid to play anyone....I would bet Marlin would play, they aren't afraid of anyone...maybe try to get an Austin ISD 4A team, or maybe like Pfluferville Hendrickson..heck try to get Lampassas maybe Marble Falls?? There are lots of schools in that area, you guys should be able to find someone to play...but if not, look outside the area, when you get good you do have to travel to find games....heck I'm sure someone from DFW would play LH...maybe play on a Saturday in Waco...or do a home and home!

I remember Everman in Class 3A having to play Robinson and Wichita Falls Rider and Lawton, OK Eisenhower...

[Matthew328]

Originally posted by tex_male
4a take Andrews spot

Wylie only turned in 916, that should keep em 3A

[tex_male]

4A Last year the cut off was 900 to 1924. You think they will rise it that much. I am thinking maybe 905 to 910 on the low in but not above 915.

[Matthew328]

honestly I do think it'll rise quite a bit....we at texasprepxtra have the cut at 971.5...

with the combination of new schools opening up and the 1A cut going to get raised it'll have a trickle effect...

[MHSvarsity2007]

Originally posted by tex_male
4a take Andrews spot

OoOoO i like that idea for Wylie :D jk...but i really would :p

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Matthew328
hypothetical if LH goes to a 4 team loop....you'll still play Burnet I bet..the series w/Hutto should continue..I'd bet they'd still play..maybe Manor would still play ya...maybe you could schedule Cuero they aren't afraid to play anyone....I would bet Marlin would play, they aren't afraid of anyone...maybe try to get an Austin ISD 4A team, or maybe like Pfluferville Hendrickson..heck try to get Lampassas maybe Marble Falls?? There are lots of schools in that area, you guys should be able to find someone to play...but if not, look outside the area, when you get good you do have to travel to find games....heck I'm sure someone from DFW would play LH...maybe play on a Saturday in Waco...or do a home and home!

I remember Everman in Class 3A having to play Robinson and Wichita Falls Rider and Lawton, OK Eisenhower...
He's working on it. I don't know all the particulars on who didn't want to schedule us, but I know some are teams we have played. I'm sure once the district is announced, it will be an easier process.

[NateDawg39]

Decatur hasnt had luck in 6-3A the last two times we were placed in it. Well back in the 90's Kennedale, Iowa Park and Vernon were always the best teams in Region 1. With Gainesville in the lineup, this could make for a huge 1st and second place run-off. Oh and Bridgeports there along the way too....:rolleyes: I bet Argyle has a say in who goes to the post season also, very good teams in this district!!:clap: (If this turns out to be the district)

[Matthew328]

I think next season will be a real rebuilding year in Gainesville....lost a lot of talent and there may be a whole new staff

[mwynn05]

Originally posted by Matthew328
I think next season will be a real rebuilding year in Gainesville....lost a lot of talent and there may be a whole new staff I know your busy matt but i was wondering if there was going to be a region 3 and 4 realignment prediction

[Matthew328]

there won't be one from me....if texasprepxtra posts one I'll post it...I don't know enough about the geography in south texas to make a knowledgable projection...sorry guys :(

[mr.leopard man]

Yep maybe if they get a new coach at whitesboro.. they are to decide in a school board meeting in a few weeks.. the coach here now is 11-29 and of the 11 wins none against 3a teams besides pottsboro...If there are gonna do it will be this coming year everyone is back besides the QB .. we just need a new coach too.. and against pilot point .. pilot point beat whitesboro by one point this past year and prosper they havent played since i think 2000 in non district.. there is a x-Gainesville coach wanting the job at whitesboro.. they have 2 div one football players coming back for the coming year. we will see ...

[HighSchool Fan]

Originally posted by mr.leopard man
.. they have 2 div one football players coming back for the coming year.

i'm curious to know what the positions are for the 2.

[hata_hurta06]

:thinking: :thinking:

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by MHSvarsity2007
i dont!! look at merkel, we're the smallest again!!

((idk about lamesas enrollment))

What #'s did Merkel turn in?

I don't know what Lamesa's enrollment is either, but the last 2 years, Greenwood has been the smallest in our district with around 515, I think.

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by Matthew328

2-3A
Snyder
Brownfield
Lubbock Cooper
Levelland
Seminole
Andrews
Lamesa

3-3A
Clint
Fabens
Pecos
Ft Stockton
Monahans
Midland Greenwood

4-3A
Sweetwater
Abilene Wylie
Merkel
Clyde
Breckenridge


I did a little editing.... My prediction!

[Intensity]

YOu think they'll move west out of 8-3a? We were looking forward to playing them this year.

[Matthew328]

looks like Robinson is looking for a game LHPM....tell Liberty Hill to call em!!

[mr.leopard man]

OL/DL.. and the other is either gonna be the QB or RB BOTH WILL BE SENIORS NEXT YEAR... THEY both just got invited to the army national bowl and combine in san antonio.. the OL/DL got second out of 600 from around the nation in bench and did well in other tests.. and the RB.. did excellent also... Kansas ST is interested in the OL/DL #73 that got second out of 600 of athletes in the united states.. and #28 has Air Force and others interested in him.

[Johnny Moxen]

Word out on the street is that the UIL 3A/4A cutoff numbers may be as high as 980. What everyone needs to understand is that there are a couple of major factors affecting/effecting (what ever) this years realignment.

1). 5A will implement taking 4 teams into the playoffs. Means the UIL will implement 8 team/10 team districts.

2). 1A (maybe only the 11-man football) will now take 3 teams to the playoffs rather than 2 teams.

Thus the 3A/4A number will go up and I wouldn't be surprised to see the 2A/3A cutoff raised. The UIL still may keep 185-202 teams in 3A, however, some schools such Brownwood may drop to 3A and some schools such as Merkel will probably fall to 2A.

[Black_Magic]

3a top number will either go down or stay the same. It will have to be done to get the number of 5A and 4A Numbers right. I would not be shocked it the Top 3A # is around 850-870

[BullFrog Dad]

Originally posted by Matthew328
7-3A
Frisco Wakeland

8-3A
Kennedale

9-3A
River Oaks Castleberry
FW Diamond Hill
Lake Worth

Let's see if I've got this straight. Castleberry, Diamond Hill, and LW will be in Region II while Frisco Wakeland to the Northeast and Kennedale to the Southeast will be in Region I. Hmmm!