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LewP
11-30-2005, 05:44 PM
Has anyone heard the rumor or is it true that Brownwood is dropping to 3A?

Whsdogs
11-30-2005, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by LewP
Has anyone heard the rumor or is it true that Brownwood is dropping to 3A?

i have heard the rumor...and the one where wylies goin to 4a....dont think either will happen though

smustangs
11-30-2005, 05:49 PM
i heard the rumor and even further they will come to our district we wont know for a whlie though. does all that come out in feb?

District303aPastPlayer
11-30-2005, 05:53 PM
wylie and its 12121212 students will never leave 3a :D

smustangs
11-30-2005, 05:57 PM
here we go again

whtfbplaya
11-30-2005, 06:01 PM
wow

District303aPastPlayer
11-30-2005, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by smustangs
here we go again

it was a joke :)

VWG
11-30-2005, 06:04 PM
Just a prediciton... which means nothing, but I think 3A top number will level at 935 to 950 this year.
If this happens I know Lubbock Estacado will join 3A, down from 4A. They turned in 932 students.
Wylie will stay 3A, and Brownwood would probably stay in 4A as I think they have close to 1,000 kids.

GWOOD
11-30-2005, 06:08 PM
I don't see Brownwood dropping to 3A unless something big has happened in the last couple of years. They have been around 1100 the last several years. They are in the bottom 1/3 of AAAA, but I just don't see that happening

Now Andrews moving down to 3A is more likely.

pero chato
11-30-2005, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by District303aPastPlayer
it was a joke :)

That's the way I took it. Although we pay good money to stay 3A. LOL!

mwynn05
11-30-2005, 06:15 PM
according to the old coach brownwood turned in 977.5 so i dont see it happening

Whsdogs
11-30-2005, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by mwynn05
according to the old coach brownwood turned in 977.5 so i dont see it happening

man if only .5 student (or would it just be a stud) wasnt there then they might be 3a lol :p :p

Adidas410s
11-30-2005, 06:47 PM
even if Brownwood dropped (which won't happen for another reallignment or two) they could still petition to stay in 4A. If they did drop, they wouldn't be in a district with Sweetwater or Snyder...with as many 3A schools as there are out here that would be a LONG drive!

hornfan
11-30-2005, 07:04 PM
believe me brownwood would not petition to stay they would love to drop to 3a because it would alot easier for them i have a good friend that is a coach there and he said the school would just love it to be there especially for football because they have not had alot of sucess (which means winning state) since they have gotten to 4a

Adidas410s
11-30-2005, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by hornfan
especially for football because they have not had alot of sucess (which means winning state) since they have gotten to 4a

seriously??? Have you missed where they have been ranked top 10 in the state most years??? Where they have had lord knows how many Div 1 players come out of that school??? I think your friend may coach at Early and was talking about their experiences in 3A. With the exception of this year, Brownwood has been a top team in 4A EVERY YEAR as long as I can remember

hornfan
11-30-2005, 07:10 PM
if you could read it would be nice i said that their definition of sucess would be winning state championships.

LewP
11-30-2005, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Adidas410s
even if Brownwood dropped (which won't happen for another reallignment or two) they could still petition to stay in 4A. If they did drop, they wouldn't be in a district with Sweetwater or Snyder...with as many 3A schools as there are out here that would be a LONG drive!

BUT, is it possible they could go to a district to the east? Iowa Park, Breckenridge, Graham maybe?

Adidas410s
11-30-2005, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by hornfan
if you could read it would be nice i said that their definition of sucess would be winning state championships.

There is no program that measures success solely based on winning state championships in Texas...even a Brownwood or Permian. If you consider that "successful" then CC Calallen has not been successful at all...use some sound reasoning here!

Adidas410s
11-30-2005, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by LewP
BUT, is it possible they could go to a district to the east? Iowa Park, Breckenridge, Graham maybe?

I could see a Wylie, Early (if they move up), Jim Ned (if they move up), Eastland/Cisco (forgot which one has been increasing in enrollment), Clyde (if they STAY up) and Brownwood district. Maybe even throw Breckenridge in there but they would have a pretty good drive to every other school in the district. I doubt you would see Brownwood in a district with IP...Graham MAYBE but still pretty unlikely.

Matthew328
11-30-2005, 07:18 PM
Brownwood would not petition to stay 4A...I can promise you that....I had conversations w/the Brownwood staff and I can assure you there would be celebrating in Brownwood if they dropped...but they wont...they turned in 977.5....Abilene Wylie turned in 916...they'll be close...

hornfan
11-30-2005, 07:18 PM
it was somewhat of a joke but seriously though some people around town there think that if they dont win state it was not a sucessful season. the last two years have been pretty rough because of slow starts both years and they lost their qb from last year because his dad moved to coach at brenham.

Adidas410s
11-30-2005, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Matthew328
Brownwood would not petition to stay 4A...I can promise you that....I had conversations w/the Brownwood staff and I can assure you there would be celebrating in Brownwood if they dropped...but they wont...they turned in 977.5....Abilene Wylie turned in 916...they'll be close...

They are out of Freeman boys to play QB right? If so then yeah I doubt they would want to stay 4A. Then again, they don't have too much success in sports other than football do they? That would make them more likely to want to move down to 3A.

Matthew328
11-30-2005, 07:22 PM
exactly....Brownnwood has trouble competing in everything else...I think they are pretty decent in a couple of other sports...

Adidas410s
11-30-2005, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Matthew328
exactly....Brownnwood has trouble competing in everything else...I think they are pretty decent in a couple of other sports...

Wylie usually plays them in boys basketball and they have always been competitive but I don't think we ever hear much out of them come spring sport time.

Adidas410s
11-30-2005, 07:25 PM
That plus 3A football is now getting the same respect as 4A (see the increase in 3A players going to D1 schools and having success over the last 5 years) so moving down a class really isnt as much of a "step down" as it would have been 5-10 years ago.

hornfan
11-30-2005, 07:28 PM
fresh out of freeman boys fyi one of them is backup at miami if you did not know but anyways i think they have done alright in vball and softball maybe not sure but boys sports not much sucess

Gobbla2001
11-30-2005, 07:35 PM
Saw them play last year, they're not too bad, of course they were playing Abilene High (ouch)...

I think they'd do well in 3A, but from what I saw (if it is the same now), they wouldn't be anything to shake in your boots over...

Great program and tradition there... I hunt in a cammo Brownwood Lions hat...

Adidas410s
11-30-2005, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by hornfan
fresh out of freeman boys fyi one of them is backup at miami if you did not know but anyways i think they have done alright in vball and softball maybe not sure but boys sports not much sucess

Yeah...we went crazy this year when Kirby got in for a few plays against VaTech. Sadly enough, Wright has had a pretty good year so Kirby may only have 1 year as a starter unless Wright has a breakout year next season and heads to the pros.

sweetwater07
11-30-2005, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Adidas410s
seriously??? Have you missed where they have been ranked top 10 in the state most years??? Where they have had lord knows how many Div 1 players come out of that school??? I think your friend may coach at Early and was talking about their experiences in 3A. With the exception of this year, Brownwood has been a top team in 4A EVERY YEAR as long as I can remember

brownwood is in district 6-4A with the town i moved to sweetwater from...cleburne....and as long as i could remember cleburne always dreaded playing brownwood because they are a very good 4A team!!

formermbcouns
11-30-2005, 07:50 PM
It's hard to believe that a town of 25,000 has under 1,000 kids in high school. Does something seem a little off there???

hornfan
11-30-2005, 08:04 PM
mostly older folks live in that town not a town that most people would move to just to move there as well as a college and the population i thought was 20,000 or under and by the way they are not in a district with cleburne and have not been for the past few years they have been in a district with waco and kileen schools which really sucked for them having to go 2 hours to play anyone

STANG RED
11-30-2005, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by formermbcouns
It's hard to believe that a town of 25,000 has under 1,000 kids in high school. Does something seem a little off there???
Some of those kids probably go to Early. Early has a large 2A school that just dropped down from 3A.

Matthew328
11-30-2005, 09:02 PM
Brownwood is OK in basketball but come district time they get rolled by the Waco and Killeen schools.....Brownwood used to be in 6-4A for a long time and they still had 2 hour trips except to Stephenville.....Brownwood is in the middle of no where.....LOL its about 2 and a half hours from Brownwood to Ft Worth

LewP
11-30-2005, 11:59 PM
Well, I wish they could leave the districts alone. I know population changes, but it makes it difficult to maintain any rivalries when the districts are always changing.

jmcgee
12-01-2005, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by Adidas410s
They are out of Freeman boys to play QB right? If so then yeah I doubt they would want to stay 4A. Then again, they don't have too much success in sports other than football do they? That would make them more likely to want to move down to 3A. They havn't had much success against Swater either. I'm talkin about past years.

sweetwater07
12-01-2005, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by hornfan
mostly older folks live in that town not a town that most people would move to just to move there as well as a college and the population i thought was 20,000 or under and by the way they are not in a district with cleburne and have not been for the past few years they have been in a district with waco and kileen schools which really sucked for them having to go 2 hours to play anyone

i could have swore that cleburne,everman,stephenville, aledo and brownwood were in the same district this year

zeus63
12-01-2005, 10:29 AM
I was just curious. Are they still kicking around the idea of making a 6A, or has that fell by the way side?

Black_Magic
12-01-2005, 10:34 AM
Brownwood, S-vile, Wylie, and cleburne, and maybe aledo in the same 4a district next year.

injuredinmelee
12-01-2005, 10:36 AM
Brownwood has been down in every sport for a long long time. They wont drop and Wylie just might go up. Its looking that way.

LewP
12-01-2005, 10:39 AM
Ohhh man, what a district THAT would be!!

GWOOD
12-01-2005, 10:51 AM
I'm doubting seriously that Brownwood would move down to 3A. But....if they did here are the 3A schools that are closest to them


1. Comanche (8-3A)
2. Clyde (4-3A)
3. Gatesville (17-3A)
4. Brady (27-3A)
5. Abilene Wylie (4-3A)
6. Merkel (4-3A)
7. Breckenridge (5-3A)
8. Llano (27-3A)
9. Hillsboro (8-3A)

sweetwater07
12-01-2005, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by Black_Magic
Brownwood, S-vile, Wylie, and cleburne, and maybe aledo in the same 4a district next year.

i would imagine cleburne would go 5A if anything...they have grown since i left a few years ago

Adidas410s
12-01-2005, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Black_Magic
Brownwood, S-vile, Wylie, and cleburne, and maybe aledo in the same 4a district next year.

You would also have to include Mineral Wells in this group.

zeus63
12-01-2005, 11:09 AM
I really don't think Wylie is going to move up. With a lot of the smaller towns growing up so fast I think they are going to up the enrollment numbers for the lower classisfications. But, as I have stated before if any of the west texas 3A teams get moved to 4A (Wylie, Sweetwater, Monahans, etc..) they would all do just as well.