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3afan
11-10-2005, 01:12 PM
from the Washington Post ::

Carthage, Midwestern St. Change Nicknames

INDIANAPOLIS -- Carthage College in Wisconsin will return to its
original nickname of Red Men, and Midwestern State University in Texas
will change its nickname after this season to comply with the NCAA's new
policy regarding American Indian mascots.

The decision was announced Wednesday by the NCAA.

Carthage College originally used the nickname Red Men, a term it
adopted from a nearby high school that was nicknamed the Blue Boys. Over
the years, however, Carthage became known as the Redmen and used Indian
mascots and logos.

Those images will be discontinued and the school agreed to issue a
policy statement that distances the college's nickname from American
Indian heritage.

Midwestern State, nicknamed the Indians, was given an extension to
remove its nickname and imagery from its basketball court until after
the season ends because of cost. But the university is expected to
discontinue the use of its nickname and logos after this year.

"The NCAA commends Carthage College and Midwestern State University for
taking affirmative steps to eliminate the potential for a hostile or
abusive environment by removing Native American references from their
respective athletics programs," the NCAA said.

The NCAA adopted the new policy in August, which prohibits the use of
Indiana nicknames, mascots, logos and other imagery at postseason
events.

Several schools, including Utah, Florida State and Central Michigan won
appeals to be removed from the original list of 18. Others, such as
North Dakota and Bradley, were initially rejected. Illinois and Indiana
University of Pennsylvania have appeals pending.

Carthage and Midwestern State are the first schools to agree to change
their nicknames since the policy was announced.
handNthedirt
11-10-2005, 01:36 PM
as a graduate of MSU, that is a load of crap. I for one do not find the term 'Indians' as a mascot offensive, unlike the Savages of Southeastern OK, but who cares what I think...I'm caucasian.
The Midwestern State Krackers has a nice ring to it.
injuredinmelee
11-10-2005, 01:38 PM
I saw this in the Wichita Falls Paper last friday. I guess MSU is going with the Mustangs. Im nto surte how I liek that. there are a few mustangs in the Wf area already. i knew City View is and I think one of the WFISD Jr. Highs is also.
injuredinmelee
11-10-2005, 01:40 PM
McMurry university in Abilene will also have to change its name. I hear one of the choices was the buffaloes.. Not sure how much I like that.
DaHop72
11-10-2005, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by injuredinmelee
McMurry university in Abilene will also have to change its name. I hear one of the choices was the buffaloes.. Not sure how much I like that.
Sure not going to have the same ring to it.
handNthedirt
11-10-2005, 01:45 PM
MSU can't go with the buffaloes......that's West TX A&M's mascot!!!
3afan
11-10-2005, 01:47 PM
cant go with the same mascot of a conference member, that breaks a nickname rule ...
GreenMonster
11-10-2005, 01:49 PM
That is affirmative Injured. Mustangs will find it's way onto the jerseys of the Tribe starting with the Basketball teams. HandNthedirt, I like you, am a Grad of MSU and I am not terribly in favor of the name change. Furthermore, I was not ever sent anything from the University asking my opinion nor was the Web site that the students were encouraged to send potential names used in the final decision. The President of the university took it upon himself to select a name. It seems that MSU is only interested in me as an Alumni for my money that I might donate. I get donation requests several times a year and I will remember thay they didn't ask my opinion the next time I recieve a donation request. I really felt the same way when I was student a MSU, that I was only treated nicely until they recieved my first check. After that I always felt like just another number on their accounting roll sheet. :tongue: Here's to you MSU.
handNthedirt
11-10-2005, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by GreenMonster
.....:tongue: Here's to you MSU.

...that's putting it nicely. I quit donating money years ago.
Bullaholic
11-10-2005, 01:59 PM
Makes you wonder where all this politically correct name changing will end up.....Should I request that the New York Yankees be forced to change their name because I come from a colonial heritage and I find the term "Yankee" an offensive English slur for Americans?
catdad
11-10-2005, 02:08 PM
I see in the future teams going to just using "home" and Visitor" for their names, or maybe "us" and "them".
big daddy russ
11-10-2005, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by 3afan
"The NCAA commends Carthage College and Midwestern State University for
taking affirmative steps to eliminate the potential for a hostile or
abusive environment by removing Native American references from their
respective athletics programs," the NCAA said.
...and in other news Fisher DeBerry was fired for saying that black people are fast.
CenTexSports
11-10-2005, 04:17 PM
I attended MSU in 1974/75 and played baseball. I did get an Associates degree and I have just recently been getting stuff from the school. Nowhere have they mentioned the name change. I think it sucks.
Z motion 10 out on 2
11-10-2005, 05:40 PM
I have two degrees from MSU and my wife has one. We always get letters asking for money. Hummm when Z jr was looking for a scholarship to play football, MSU didn't give him the time of day. Due to the fact, I haven't sent in a dime and never will.

How about this one: Midwestern Mice Or Midwestern Mugdogs