3a teams moving due to realignment

[KATS]

What 3a teams may move up or down in the upcoming realignment?

[3afan]

we'll know in Feb

LINK to UIL site (http://www.uil.utexas.edu/2005align/pdf/3A_EnrollmentData.pdf)
the biggest ones are the candidates to move up, the smallest ones to move down

[exbccards76'smom]

I was just looking at ths numbers that were reported and wondering how you can have half a student?

[3afan]

students under 5'6" are counted as .5

[neck_06]

Originally posted by exbccards76'smom
I was just looking at ths numbers that were reported and wondering how you can have half a student?

i don't know about the past, but hurricane evacuees are counted as half of a student. i guess because they weren't at the school the whole year.

[elcabezon]

migrant workers?

[texasjeremy]

The largest 3A school in the state (according to last realignment) was Palestine, this time they turned in an enrollment of 904 (up only 5 students).

[Tiger90]

That would be horrible to miss the cut by 5 kids if they cut it off at 900. Silsbee turned in 827 so I imagine they will continue to be 3A. I am wondering if Jasper may overtake the "big" school moniker next season. As always rumors start floating around this time of year till February, but one rumor I have heard is West Orange, Bridge City, Orangefield, Hampshire Fannett, Kirbyville, Jasper, Silsbee, possibly Hardin Jefferson all in one district. I am sure I have missed one area 3A school. HJ could still be tied to the "western" 3A schools. Word is Buna will probably drop to 2A. That would also create a district with Liberty, Anahuac, Coldspring, Cleveland, Sheperd, Tarkington, Huffman, and ? (Barbers Hill....moving up?).

Anyways these are just some rumors and food for thought. Would make a heck of a football district with the eastern 3A district.

[spiveyrat]

Originally posted by 3afan
we'll know in Feb

LINK to UIL site (http://www.uil.utexas.edu/2005align/pdf/3A_EnrollmentData.pdf)
the biggest ones are the candidates to move up, the smallest ones to move down

Pointless to even discuss, eh 3afan? :)

[texasjeremy]

I would imagine the upper limit will continue to rise as usual, if it does, Palestine will stay 3A, but who knows with the UIL.

[Mustang Fan]

You get half a student because they take an average attendance for a certain period of time. If you have 800 and then 799 you get 799.5. I hear Huffman and Barbers Hill are both probably moving up.

[BlueBlood]

Originally posted by Tiger90
That would be horrible to miss the cut by 5 kids if they cut it off at 900. Silsbee turned in 827 so I imagine they will continue to be 3A. I am wondering if Jasper may overtake the "big" school moniker next season. As always rumors start floating around this time of year till February, but one rumor I have heard is West Orange, Bridge City, Orangefield, Hampshire Fannett, Kirbyville, Jasper, Silsbee, possibly Hardin Jefferson all in one district. I am sure I have missed one area 3A school. HJ could still be tied to the "western" 3A schools. Word is Buna will probably drop to 2A. That would also create a district with Liberty, Anahuac, Coldspring, Cleveland, Sheperd, Tarkington, Huffman, and ? (Barbers Hill....moving up?).

Anyways these are just some rumors and food for thought. Would make a heck of a football district with the eastern 3A district.

You can just about bet that Huffman and Barbers Hill are going up. I haven't heard what BH turned in but when we played Huffman I heard they had over 1000 kids.

[mwynn05]

Originally posted by texasjeremy
I would imagine the upper limit will continue to rise as usual, if it does, Palestine will stay 3A, but who knows with the UIL. Actually is had been 899 like the last 2 maybe 3 realignments, buti agree i think the cut off will be 950 this time

[Jody]

Originally posted by Mustang Fan
You get half a student because they take an average attendance for a certain period of time. If you have 800 and then 799 you get 799.5. I hear Huffman and Barbers Hill are both probably moving up.

I hear Huffman and BH turned in between 960 and 980. Good chance of being 4-A, depends on UIL at this point. BH has a 5 year projection to increase by 1600 students. That would put BH close to 3000 enrollment, which is just nuts. Huffman is also growing some.

[wos fan1]

Yep, that will be 4A...:eek:

[gtownpoke]

you gotta remember the UIL is making 2 state champions in six man and 1A. There are a lot of holes to fill to make 32 districts in 1A and the cutoff for 1A/2A is going to rise. a lot. as the 1A/2A cut-off rises so will the 2A/3A. there is a lot of talk about Tatum, White Oak, Rains, Winnsboro, and teams that have been close before dropping. BUT there is also talk of borderline 4A schools dropping to 3A such as Athens, Paris... I only know East Texas schools so you can do the math for your area.

[GUT]

Heard rice consolidated might .

[3afan]

Originally posted by gtownpoke
you gotta remember the UIL is making 2 state champions in six man and 1A. There are a lot of holes to fill to make 32 districts in 1A and the cutoff for 1A/2A is going to rise. a lot. as the 1A/2A cut-off rises so will the 2A/3A. there is a lot of talk about Tatum, White Oak, Rains, Winnsboro, and teams that have been close before dropping. BUT there is also talk of borderline 4A schools dropping to 3A such as Athens, Paris... I only know East Texas schools so you can do the math for your area.

it all starts at the top - 5A ... once there are the desired number of 5A teams, then the 4A starts ............ the "cutoff for 1A/2A " will be decided from the top down, not by the need for more 1A teams, all that will do is increase the enrollment range which is one of the problems the UIL is trying to fix

[formermbcouns]

It's a pretty good bet that Marlin will go 2A.

[3afan]

especially since the top end of 2A will most likely go UP

[mwynn05]

Originally posted by formermbcouns
It's a pretty good bet that Marlin will go 2A. I don't think so

[Hupernikomen]

Originally posted by Tiger90
As always rumors start floating around this time of year till February, but one rumor I have heard is West Orange, Bridge City, Orangefield, Hampshire Fannett, Kirbyville, Jasper, Silsbee, possibly Hardin Jefferson all in one district. I am sure I have missed one area 3A school. HJ could still be tied to the "western" 3A schools. Word is Buna will probably drop to 2A. That would also create a district with Liberty, Anahuac, Coldspring, Cleveland, Sheperd, Tarkington, Huffman, and ? (Barbers Hill....moving up?).

Anyways these are just some rumors and food for thought. Would make a heck of a football district with the eastern 3A district.


Rumors are useless about realignment. I have yet to have seen one that came true. Now could old conjecturing is what you are talking about. As far as those districts that you mentioned. I am sure that is what some of the coaches in those areas think might be possible because of the move up of BH and Huffman. My sources tell me that BH and Huffman both turned in over 950 which unless the UIL really changes things means certain move up for them.

[Hupernikomen]

Originally posted by 3afan
we'll know in Feb

LINK to UIL site (http://www.uil.utexas.edu/2005align/pdf/3A_EnrollmentData.pdf)
the biggest ones are the candidates to move up, the smallest ones to move down

Well duh lol.

Kats knows all about how the UIL realigns. We are interested in numbers that schools turned in that are on the bubble.

Kats some I know in our area:
BH over 950
Huffman over 950
(Jody and etbu have the exact numbers)
Hardin's numbers should keep them in 2A.

[West22]

GOOD POSIBILTY THAT BROWNWOOD MAY DROP TO 3A

[Hupernikomen]

Originally posted by gtownpoke
you gotta remember the UIL is making 2 state champions in six man and 1A. There are a lot of holes to fill to make 32 districts in 1A and the cutoff for 1A/2A is going to rise. a lot. as the 1A/2A cut-off rises so will the 2A/3A. there is a lot of talk about Tatum, White Oak, Rains, Winnsboro, and teams that have been close before dropping. BUT there is also talk of borderline 4A schools dropping to 3A such as Athens, Paris... I only know East Texas schools so you can do the math for your area.

Nothing wrong with using byes..don't have to have 32 districts.

[3afan]

thay would be wierd, brownwood in 3A

[Tiger90]

What are Jasper and WOS #s?

[KTJ]

Does 3A fan work for the UIL?

:thinking:

[3afan]

no he doesn't, but he can READ ;)

[VWG]

Lubbock Estacado turned in 932, which could easily drop them down to 3A after being in 4A for many years.
I haven't gotten figures but I know that Big Spring and Andrews could also be moving down to 3A if the top number increases.
Mineral Wells has under 1,000 kids now and they could drop to 3A if the numbers go up as expected.

[wos fan1]

Originally posted by Tiger90
What are Jasper and WOS #s? Not sure on Jasper...WOS turned in 802 i believe..

[3afan]

the folks in Cove are thinkng they may go to 4A .... that would be cool

[GreenMonster]

I personally believe that 3A as a whole will slide up. UIL is encouraging 1A's to play Six Man by giving them 2 state champions. This will enable them to slide the bottom 2A number up to place more schools in 1A. To get the 2A division more teams the bottm number for 3A will climb. For 3A to have enough teams the bottom number of 4A will climb etc etc. This makes enough room at the top for all the new 5A's that have opened. I see the 4A cutoff at 975 or possibly higher like 1000. Not very many if any 3A schools will go 4A this year, more than likely we will see more 3A's become 2A and 4A's dropping into 3A.

[GreenMonster]

Originally posted by West22
GOOD POSIBILTY THAT BROWNWOOD MAY DROP TO 3A

Brownwood turned in 977 I believe. That number may not be precise but, it is real close. That is what was reported to The Old Coach.

[slpybear the bullfan]

Originally posted by texasjeremy
The largest 3A school in the state (according to last realignment) was Palestine, this time they turned in an enrollment of 904 (up only 5 students).


Largest last time around was Palesting and Wichita Falls Hirschi... both at 899.

Smallest was 361... Carrolton Ranchview.

The difference in talent pool in the 400 range is way less compared with the 850 plus.

I really hope they squeeze it down some.

[Manck]

Ranchview's number will be astoundingly higher than last time. I think that last time might have been with only sophomores and freshmen.

[JustAFan]

Originally posted by Mustang Fan
You get half a student because they take an average attendance for a certain period of time. If you have 800 and then 799 you get 799.5.

Actually, the .5 student comes from a student who is enrolled in less than 4 hours of classes each day. The number is taken from a submission the last Friday of October - the same day TEA uses for their "snapshot". The day this year was October 28th.

This year hurricane evacuees also counted as .5, but this is how schools had .5 in years past. Realignment has nothing to do with attendance, it is the enrollment number.

[RBARKER]

Originally posted by Hupernikomen
Well duh lol.

Kats knows all about how the UIL realigns. We are interested in numbers that schools turned in that are on the bubble.

Kats some I know in our area:
BH over 950
Huffman over 950
(Jody and etbu have the exact numbers)
Hardin's numbers should keep them in 2A.

BH turned in 961 Huffman was in the 990's

[Dogman_1969]

It is possible that the smaller 3A teams could end up in 2A. Actually Marlin and Cameron both could end up in 2A. I think Rockdale had 525 or so which would keep them in 3A. Can you imagine 2A with Newton, Marlin and the Yoe in one region?

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by Tiger90
Silsbee turned in 827 so I imagine they will continue to be 3A. I am wondering if Jasper may overtake the "big" school moniker next season. Sorry 90, but a little birdie told me that Jasper turned in 819.

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by Dogman_1969
Can you imagine 2A with Newton, Marlin and the Yoe in one region? :eek: :eek: Ouch!!!

[garageoffice]

Not sure what official number Kennedale submitted, but I heard it was expected to be somewhere around 925. Guess we'll see what happens to the upper limit, huh?

[mulefan]

my mules are looking at 2a we probably had 390