WOS vs. Bridge City -- Will history repeat?

[GS#17]

WOS leads the series with Bridge City 15-0

1986 - 28-7
1987 - 35-0
1988 - 20-0
1989 - 57-7
1990 - 65-15
1991 - 42-14
1992 - 54-7
1993 - 31-14
1994 - 48-7
1995 - 48-0
1996 - 24-21
1997 - 60-7
1998 - 27-6
1999 - 35-0
2004 - 27-21 (OT)

Total Score: WOS 601, BC 126
Average Score: WOS 40.1, BC 8.4

There were really only two close games in this series -- 1996 and 2004. Despite the history of one-sided wins that WOS has posted, I think this one will be close.

Looking at a series record can be somewhat misleading. People sometimes get in their mind that because something happened in the past, it will surely continue. WOS has had better football athletes most of the years in the series, but the real difference has been at the top ranks -- the coaching. Whereas BC has had a revolving door of head coaches -- Bolton, Townzen, Johnson, Conway, and Tarver -- WOS has had one, Hooks. I think the stability of coaching (as well as the quality) had given WOS a significant advantage, specifically during the 90s.

Despite what some BC people feel, Tarver has impressed me as a very good coach, both with HF and now with BC. I think he is a major reason for BC's success; why BC played WOS into OT last year; and why several people think BC can upend WOS this year. I don't think Tarver gives BC an advantage over WOS' Hooks, but it certainly closes the gap.

Yet, coaching aside, the kids still have to execute. Both teams have enjoyed successful seasons, and although the coaches have a lot to say about that, it's to the players' credit that they have an undefeated record. Both teams have a lot of positive momentum, and coupled with good athletic ability, they both are quality playoff-bound teams.

Despite the uncertainty of the possible outcome, one thing is crystal clear: WOS currently enjoys a 15 game winning streak over BC. While that alone doesn't give them an advantage, it is a lot better to be on that side of the fence than the other. The pressure that BC has to feel coming into the game must be enormous -- they've never beaten WOS and there are lots of expectations on them to overcome the odds and do what no other BC team has done before them. A lot of talk centers around the top BC football athletes, and a lot of people are making this sound like it's a now or never situation for BC (you don't get an Armand, Dishon, etc., just every year).

So, will this be another WOS over BC victory, or will this be the year BC overcomes the close and not-so-close losses that have haunted them in the past? My guess is WOS has a few advantages that will sway the game their way, but we'll see in just a few days!

[wos fan1]

Looks good.

[setex]

WOS leads the series with Bridge City 15-0

1986 - 28-7
1987 - 35-0
1988 - 20-0
1989 - 57-7
1990 - 65-15
1991 - 42-14
1992 - 54-7
1993 - 31-14
1994 - 48-7
1995 - 48-0
1996 - 24-21
1997 - 60-7
1998 - 27-6
1999 - 35-0
2004 - 27-21 (OT)

WOS 1986, 1987 Class 4A State Champions. 1988, 2000 4A State Finalists.
1985 5A District Champions
12 District Championships in 4A
Voted 4A team of the 80's
Highest All-Time Winning Percentage in the State among all Classifications



I really wonder if Bridge City will show up?

[bulldogbark]

WOW you got a better history against BC than you do us????

[Paratrooper]

Originally posted by GS#17
A lot of talk centers around the top BC football athletes, and a lot of people are making this sound like it's a now or never situation for BC (you don't get an Armand, Dishon, etc., just every year).


GS#17 I totally agree with your post. Really everything you said in there minus the above sentence. It's not likely we would have a peebles either and that was only just a few years back. The run to the semi finals wasn't just luck. That was a really great BC team. They just happened not to play WOS that year.

WOS without any doubt has one of the best programs in Texas year in and year out. They have made some great runs. BC has been on the losing end of those games. I really don't think though the pressure is on us for this one. You guys have the #1 ranking (jerry's). I just went on Jerry's and you guys are the 17 point favorite. Bridge City on that web site is 18th. You are expected to win. I think the pressure is clearly on the favorite not the underdog. When your the top dog the pressure will always be on you.

[HillBoy]

Originally posted by GS#17
WOS leads the series with Bridge City 15-0

1986 - 28-7
1987 - 35-0
1988 - 20-0
1989 - 57-7
1990 - 65-15
1991 - 42-14
1992 - 54-7
1993 - 31-14
1994 - 48-7
1995 - 48-0
1996 - 24-21
1997 - 60-7
1998 - 27-6
1999 - 35-0
2004 - 27-21 (OT)

Total Score: WOS 601, BC 126
Average Score: WOS 40.1, BC 8.4

Looks like BC is due for a win in this series.

[Paratrooper]

Originally posted by HillBoy
Looks like BC is due for a win in this series.

Maybe...maybe not. I read by one of the WOS posters how all those kids could talk about was Bridge City during the WOS/OF game. The pressure is really on them and it must be on their minds. They are sweating it. Don't think they are not. The outcome isn't a given anymore. You can see by last year it was somewhat put in check as it gave them a scare. They were used to walking on BC. They didn't play Bridge City when they were making their runs in the playoffs, so pretty much all they have known was trashing Bridge City. I really don't blame them. It is a fact with the exception of only 2 years they have walked on BC. They have had some great teams.
I can remember back when we used to play Lumberton and just tear them up year in and year out over at Bridge City. It was like it was almost a given. Eventually a Bridge City team lost to them. It happens to everyone.

[GS#17]

You are expected to win. I think the pressure is clearly on the favorite not the underdog.

I think they're different types of pressures. The pressure to win is put on all teams by coaches and fans, so the pressure to beat an opponent is not unique to WOS. I don't think the coaches are going to mention who is a favorite, who is ranked higher, or what the point spread is... Knowing WOS like I do, they'll look at BC as a team with weapons that can play solid football. Their focus is to win a district title and continue a 2005 undefeated season, and BC is the next obstacle in the way to achieving their goals, but they have probably not been the center of the focus for the team until this week. WOS has clinched a playoff spot, and would certainly like to enter the postseason with a win, but I really don't see them as emphasizing this game as one that is needed to protect a streak over BC.

BC has clinched and wants to keep their winning momentum going into the playoffs, but they are also trying to do something no BC program has done before. You're right about Peebles and his team (he was really a great player), but my point is those players are not always around. BC took full advantage of having a Peebles-led team and had a great run to the semis; however, they also know that if they don't beat WOS with the personnel on this team and the talent WOS has coming up in the ranks, it could be a while before they line up, athlete to athlete, with WOS.

Either way, I don't mean that part of the post to be a negative, it's just part of the way I see it. I think the confidence of a favorite generally overcomes the doubts of the underdog, and I think in a game like this, BC comes into the game with a little more on the line than WOS does.

[j_dog]

Originally posted by bulldogbark
WOW you got a better history against BC than you do us????
And I would venture to guess that Jasper has a better record against BC than they do against WOS. :thinking: But not as good as WOS vs. BC.

[Paratrooper]

Originally posted by j_dog
And I would venture to guess that Jasper has a better record against BC than they do against WOS. :thinking: But not as good as WOS vs. BC.

Not sure about this one. I think Jasper holds a lead but not by much. I may be wrong on this one. Jasper and Bridge City have a very long history and have traded alot of punches for around 40 years. When the Bridge City website opens up I will be able to tell you.

[RBARKER]

That was then, this is now. WOS history is great, but it won't do anything for them from this day on. Not trying to start a 40 page thread of WOS defending their pride, but I think everyone has had the WOS history leason this year.:doh:

[Paratrooper]

Originally posted by RBARKER
That was then, this is now. WOS history is great, but it won't do anything for them from this day on. Not trying to start a 40 page thread of WOS defending their pride, but I think everyone has had the WOS history leason this year.:doh:

Kinda of reminds me of the last great act of defiance before all the waters rush in.:D

[WOS92]

LOL.... Last great act of defiance before the waters rush in? LOL...

Well, if Jasper holds a slight lead in the series against BC, then it IS a better record than they have vs. WO-S. :) THAT has been an awesome rivalry, though. The Jasper game is circled on our calendars every year. The BC game was this year, but it's not usually a really hyped game. It's different with both teams being undefeated.

[WOS92]

Just talked to a friend and Earl Thomas won't play until the postseason. That will really hurt on D. We should be ok on offense, but he's our best defensive player. Should be interesting! Someone will have to step up!

[WOS87]

Originally posted by j_dog
And I would venture to guess that Jasper has a better record against BC than they do against WOS. :thinking: But not as good as WOS vs. BC.
Jasper vs BC 17-12-1

Year Jasper BC
1962 6 - 34 0-1
1963 8 - 33 0-2
1964 14 - 42 0-3
1965 13 - 32 0-4
1966 0 - 42 0-5
1967 6 - 31 0-6
1968 6 - 39 0-7
1969 6 - 16 0-8
1970 25 - 17 1-8
1971 14 - 7 2-8
1972 6 - 20 2-9
1973 13 - 13 2-9-1
1974 0 - 27 2-10-1
1975 12 - 0 3-10-1
1976 13 - 9 4-10-1
1977 7 - 21 4-11-1
1978 21 - 16 5-11-1
1979 12 - 7 6-11-1
1980 13 - 3 7-11-1
1981 28 - 12 8-11-1
1982 21 - 0 9-11-1
1983 43 - 0 10-11-1
1984 28 - 7 11-11-1
1985 19 - 24 11-12-1
1986 35 - 14 12-12-1
1987 16 - 7 13-12-1
1990 20 - 6 14-12-1
1991 34 - 7 15-12-1
2002 28 - 0 16-12-1
2004 34 - 10 17-12-1

WO-S vs Jasper 15-5-0

Year WOS Jasper
1986 8 - 21 0-1
1986 21 - 15 1-1
1987 3 - 0 2-1
1988 38- 15 3-1
1990 7 - 6 4-1
1991 14 - 6 5-1
1992 30 - 10 6-1
1993 42 - 7 7-1
1993 41 - 17 8-1
1994 28 - 14 9-1
1994 7 - 16 9-2
1995 37 - 0 10-2
1996 0 - 41 10-3
1997 17 - 16 11-3
1997 27 - 12 12-3
2000 20 - 9 13-3
2000 23 - 0 14-3
2001 26 - 42 14-4
2004 23 - 25 14-5
2005 28 - 22 15-5

[Hupernikomen]

Originally posted by WOS87
Jasper vs BC 17-12-1

Year Jasper BC
1962 6 - 34 0-1
1963 8 - 33 0-2
1964 14 - 42 0-3
1965 13 - 32 0-4
1966 0 - 42 0-5
1967 6 - 31 0-6
1968 6 - 39 0-7
1969 6 - 16 0-8
1970 25 - 17 1-8
1971 14 - 7 2-8
1972 6 - 20 2-9
1973 13 - 13 2-9-1
1974 0 - 27 2-10-1
1975 12 - 0 3-10-1
1976 13 - 9 4-10-1
1977 7 - 21 4-11-1
1978 21 - 16 5-11-1
1979 12 - 7 6-11-1
1980 13 - 3 7-11-1
1981 28 - 12 8-11-1
1982 21 - 0 9-11-1
1983 43 - 0 10-11-1
1984 28 - 7 11-11-1
1985 19 - 24 11-12-1
1986 35 - 14 12-12-1
1987 16 - 7 13-12-1
1990 20 - 6 14-12-1
1991 34 - 7 15-12-1
2002 28 - 0 16-12-1
2004 34 - 10 17-12-1

WO-S vs Jasper 15-5-0

Year WOS Jasper
1986 8 - 21 0-1
1986 21 - 15 1-1
1987 3 - 0 2-1
1988 38- 15 3-1
1990 7 - 6 4-1
1991 14 - 6 5-1
1992 30 - 10 6-1
1993 42 - 7 7-1
1993 41 - 17 8-1
1994 28 - 14 9-1
1994 7 - 16 9-2
1995 37 - 0 10-2
1996 0 - 41 10-3
1997 17 - 16 11-3
1997 27 - 12 12-3
2000 20 - 9 13-3
2000 23 - 0 14-3
2001 26 - 42 14-4
2004 23 - 25 14-5
2005 28 - 22 15-5

Good stuff.

[spiveyrat]

8 of those 12 losses were in the '60's. Since then, we've been pretty dominant. :nerd:

[Paratrooper]

Originally posted by spiveyrat
8 of those 12 losses were in the '60's. Since then, we've been pretty dominant. :nerd:

So those don't count?:confused:

Bridge City's teams in the 60's won a state championship and went the the finals in another. They also made the playoffs back then when you actually had to win your district to represent it.