Best 3a Team ever!( State title or not)

[jakarta101]

WHo is the team ,that if all 3a teams were to play, would run the chance of being the best 3a team in history? Virtually an unbeatable team.....

[jakarta101]

I think it would be the 2003 Gainsville Leapords

[Adidas410s]

same as before...I would vote '02 Everman. I never saw '01 Everman play in person but I know it's a safe bet that they were just as nasty...

[jakarta101]

Didnt they win state that yr?

[Adidas410s]

they won both years. '03 Gainesville was incredibly fast, especially their front 7. That being said they didn't have anywhere near the talent of either of those Everman teams.

[GreenMonster]

We settled this a while back. 1983 Daingerfield. Gave up only 7 points in 16 games. If you can find a more dominating team than that let us know.

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by GreenMonster
We settled this a while back. 1983 Daingerfield. Gave up only 7 points in 16 games. If you can find a more dominating team than that let us know.

Statistically yes. However, could a team from the older style of football and athleticism matchup with many of today's teams which have much better athletes?

[sahen]

i dunno what class waco high was back in the 40's but it was prolly either 2a or 3a...i thinkt hat was the highest back then.....they were completely dominate....i think it was from 41-47 they went like 80-2-2, and during 2 of those seasons no one scored on them the whole time....they had about 7 or 8 games in that stretch in which they scored over 100 points on the team they were playing.....i think one game was like 128-0, also the hung 100 on one team in a playoff game....im not sure of the exact details so i could be a little off, but i know they have a display about it at the Texas Sports Hall of Fame here in waco....

[jakarta101]

Yea that was like in the leather helmet days........just kidding but nobody had the high powered offenses that teams these days have....but those are very impressive stats

[Whsdogs]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
they won both years. '03 Gainesville was incredibly fast, especially their front 7. That being said they didn't have anywhere near the talent of either of those Everman teams.
on the field against both of them and gainsville isnt half the team that the '02 everman bulldogs..big difference and thats for sure...still 2 great teams though not tryin to take anything away from gainsville cause they did beat us lol

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
Statistically yes. However, could a team from the older style of football and athleticism matchup with many of today's teams which have much better athletes?
Sure they could. I've heard (no facts, just hearsay) that 14 kids from that team played college ball.... and that was from an economically devastated town. Five went to the pros.

It was 1983, not 1923. Could Anthony Munoz do a great job against Julius Peppers? Could Dan Marino torch the Eagles secondary? Hell, could Johnny Rogers still run wild over the rest of the Big Eight? I think so.

[Leopards,class of 75]

Originally posted by jakarta101
I think it would be the 2003 Gainsville Leapords That was a very talented team on both sides of the ball. As far as the best ever, thats a tough one to me.

[NateDawg39]

Id say the 03 Leopards or the 02 Everman team are two of my top teams

[DOGFAN]

'02 Everman was way more dominant than '03 Gainesville. Wylie could hardly stay on the field with Everman in '02, but the next year in the semis an overall less talented Wylie (in my opinion) gave Gainesville a little run for their money for a while.

[vet93]

Adidas...I saw that team in person and I have seen many teams since then...no team that I have seen compaired to this team. They were monsters. Mulitple scholarship athletes...multiple pro athletes. Sure weight training etc.... may be better these days...but if that team was around now...they would have access to the same things that kids have access to now....they would dominate. I think that they would have won 4a and maybe even 5a that same year. They won the state championship game 42-0 against a great Sweeny team. They had two touchdowns called back and were playing there offensive linemen in the backfield at the end of the game...no joke.


Originally posted by Adidas410s
Statistically yes. However, could a team from the older style of football and athleticism matchup with many of today's teams which have much better athletes?

[WOS87]

1992 Southlake Carroll - 803 points in 16 games, won the state championship 48-0 over Coldspring

1983 Daingerfield - may have been over 20 years ago but no one can compare statistically

[Chris Hart]

Burnet played em both. The 02 Everman team beat a much better Burnet team than Gainesville did in 03. Everman had many weapons, Gainesville basically just had Purvey. Purvey had a field day against a so-so Burnet defense in 03, Everman had a field day against a good Burnet defense in 02. Everman02/Gainesville 03 defenses were comparable, they were both good defenses, Everman had the luxury of catching us with McGee in a knee brace with a torn ACL. He was roadkill that night, especially with Shipley gimped as well. Had they been healthy, we'd probably have matched the 24 we put up against Gainesville. Overall speed edge goes to Everman by a mile, they had depth players as fast as everyone on Burnet's team other than Shipley. IMO, if 02 Everman had played 03 Gainesville, Everman would've beat Gainesville around 35-7. As great as Purvey was, that 02 Everman team would've bottled him up all night. The one Gainesville score would come via the pass/special teams.

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
Sure they could. I've heard (no facts, just hearsay) that 14 kids from that team played college ball.... and that was from an economically devastated town. Five went to the pros.

It was 1983, not 1923. Could Anthony Munoz do a great job against Julius Peppers? Could Dan Marino torch the Eagles secondary? Hell, could Johnny Rogers still run wild over the rest of the Big Eight? I think so.
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Let me add that back in '23 they had wooden mouthguards to go with the leather helmets(lol). When a kid came home from a football game back then he'd say, "THi thmom" when he got home. Back then, if a kid was injured there was no ambulance to take them to the hospital if they got a broken bone. The doctor would come to the house to reset the bone without surgery and a shot a whiskey to kill the pain.
Hmmm... makes for a tough kid. Not as talented, but much tougher back then.
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'83 Daingerfield is the legend team nuf said. They have the stats to back it up until someone does them better.

[PlayaJBiehl20]

You can't say one team or another team would be the best. What about the teams in the 70's or any other team that you all didn't even see. Ya you can compare teams from the same era but not all the teams that have ever played 3a football.

[injuredinmelee]

83 Daingerfield best ever.
would love to see that team play 02 Everman. 02 Everman would have won 4A that year. I say that everytime the discussion comes up and I stick by it. I saw Everman play twice that year and saw denton Ryan the same amount of times and am convinced that Everman would beat them soundly.

[jakarta101]

what if the 02 everman played the 04 decatur? Could they have contained that high powered offense........

[systemofaflamer]

how bout the sealy squad of the early 90's where no one came close to beating them?...

figured that might raise some eyebrows if remembered

[Adidas410s]

Originally posted by jakarta101
what if the 02 everman played the 04 decatur? Could they have contained that high powered offense........

lol...are you serious? Wylie was able to essentially use a NG up the middle and blitz one corner and pressure Dane all night. Somewhere around 7 or 8 sacks I believe. The DL that Everman had, lead by Nick Clark, would have likely killed Dane...literally! You thought the hit by Slay from Tech on Saturday against KState was bad...poor Dane would have been MUCH worse off than that K State guy.

[injuredinmelee]

Originally posted by jakarta101
what if the 02 everman played the 04 decatur? Could they have contained that high powered offense........

Everman had so many athletes all over the field. I think Dane would have been running for his life all night long. Alot like how #27 was in the Decatur backfield all night long in Stephenville and had 5 sacks, and as much as I love @27 for Wylie he wouldnt have been a starter on the 02 Everman team.

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by systemofaflamer
how bout the sealy squad of the early 90's where no one came close to beating them?...

figured that might raise some eyebrows if remembered
There was always someone right on Sealy's heels. In '94, Columbus came dang close (12-6). In '95 Cuero may have had a better team than Sealy... lost 17-14... the Tigers barely beat Commerce in the finals (21-20). In '96 with possibly the best team they've ever fielded, it was Coldspring (21-14) and Tatum (34-27) that gave them runs. Finally, in '97 they squeaked their way though the playoffs. It was Devine, LaGrange, George West and Commerce giving them trouble, but they pulled it out.

Daingerfield dominated everyone. 3A, 4A, it didn't matter. Nobody came close. SLC '92 dominated almost everyone. Vernon was the only team to push them in the playoffs (39-35), but that Lions team was amazing. They plowed through the rest of the field during what most people described as an "up" year for 3A ball, outscoring their opponents a combined 322-84. That's an AVERAGE score of 54-14.

Oh, and I thought the '01 Everman team was actually better than the '02 team.

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by SintonFan
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Let me add that back in '23 they had wooden mouthguards to go with the leather helmets(lol). When a kid came home from a football game back then he'd say, "THi thmom" when he got home. Back then, if a kid was injured there was no ambulance to take them to the hospital if they got a broken bone. The doctor would come to the house to reset the bone without surgery and a shot a whiskey to kill the pain.
Hmmm... makes for a tough kid. Not as talented, but much tougher back then.....
LOL, good point.

[AggieJohn]

sealy in the mid nineties when they went like 60-0-1 or something like that.......

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by big daddy russ
There was always someone right on Sealy's heels. In '94, Columbus came dang close (12-6). In '95 Cuero may have had a better team than Sealy... lost 17-14... the Tigers barely beat Commerce in the finals (21-20). In '96 with possibly the best team they've ever fielded, it was Coldspring (21-14) and Tatum (34-27) that gave them runs. Finally, in '97 they squeaked their way though the playoffs. It was Devine, LaGrange, George West and Commerce giving them trouble, but they pulled it out.

Daingerfield dominated everyone. 3A, 4A, it didn't matter. Nobody came close. SLC '92 dominated almost everyone. Vernon was the only team to push them in the playoffs (39-35), but that Lions team was amazing. They plowed through the rest of the field during what most people described as an "up" year for 3A ball, outscoring their opponents a combined 322-84. That's an AVERAGE score of 54-14.

Oh, and I thought the '01 Everman team was actually better than the '02 team. was it '01 that we watched Everman and Sinton at Kyle field? Sinton had that game won till it started raining and they went to the run instead of keeping it in the air. I think had it not rained, Sinton might of been able to pull out a state champ. that year against them.

[WOS1]

Originally posted by injuredinmelee
83 Daingerfield best ever.
would love to see that team play 02 Everman. 02 Everman would have won 4A that year. I say that everytime the discussion comes up and I stick by it. I saw Everman play twice that year and saw denton Ryan the same amount of times and am convinced that Everman would beat them soundly.

I'm sorry, but I just can't see that happening. I believe that Everman may have appeared better to you, but that has a ton to do with the competition they were playing.

I agree, Daingerfield is the best ever. All we have are numbers and those numbers don't lie. In modern day football, no team can even sniff their accomplishments (and yes, I consider the 80's modern day).

[PPHSfan]

03 Atlanta was a machine.

06 Gilmer is gonna be just like em.

[Buckeye80]

It's a tie between '83 Daingerfield and '06 Gilcuelmero.:D

[tmac]

If 1983 dangerfield only allowed 7

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by tmac
If 1983 dangerfield only allowed 7

Then????

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
Then????

Maybe????

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
Maybe????

We may have to pry it out of him.:D

[District303aPastPlayer]

83 Dangerfield. Period. No discussion

[Paratrooper]

Originally posted by GreenMonster
We settled this a while back. 1983 Daingerfield. Gave up only 7 points in 16 games. If you can find a more dominating team than that let us know.

That is the best team.......bar none

[maestro]

sorry...

but in my opinion....
if there is no state title....

then that school eliminates themselves from any " best ever " talk..

isn't best ever about achievements????

cuero........daingerfield........

[District303aPastPlayer]

Originally posted by maestro
.........cuero........daingerfield........

Gobbla2001 has a sig a while back that said "you wish we were square so we would quit coming around" meaning their 10 state title game appearances

[tmac]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
Maybe???? sorry im at work and had 2 stop a sec but if a team only allows 1 td who can honestly say they didnt dominate with ease!?

[maestro]

i do, however, see the sealy boosters point.

they were dominant for a long stretch.

but that's not so much one team as a program's sustained success.

[WOS87]

Prior to 1951 11-man football was only divided up into 2 classifications but ranking all 64 of the state champions in the 3rd largest classification 1951-2005 unhandicapped... you get the following:

Average pts scored per game
1. 1992 Southlake Carroll (16-0-0) 50.19
2. 2002 Everman (14-1-0) 48.80
3. 1960 Denver City (15-0-0) 47.93
4. 1987 Cuero (16-0-0) 43.44
5.(t) 2001 Everman (15-0-0) 42.67
5.(t)1969 Iowa Park (15-0-0) 42.67
7. 1995 Sealy (16-0-0) 42.38
8. 2004 Gilmer (16-0-0) 41.56
9. 1954 Phillips (15-0-0) 40.47
10. 1962 Jacksboro (15-0-0) 40.13

Average pts allowed per game
1. 1983 Daingerfield (16-0-0) 0.50!!
2. 1980 Pittsburg (15-0-0) 1.53
3. 1962 Jacksboro (15-0-0) 2.80
4. 1966 Sweeny (14-0-0) 3.29
5. 1964 Palacios (14-0-0) 4.64
6. 1973 Friendswood (15-0-0) 4.67
7. 1988 Southlake Carroll (16-0-0) 4.94
8. 1970 Refugio (14-0-1) 5.00
9. 1979 Van (14-0-1) 5.07
10. 1982 Refugio (15-1-0) 5.38

Average Margin of Victory
1. 1992 Southlake Carroll (16-0-0) 42.56
2. 1960 Denver City (15-0-0) 42.07
3. 2002 Everman (14-1-0) 39.93
4. 1983 Daingerfield (16-0-0) 38.94
5. 1962 Jacksboro (15-0-0) 37.33
6. 1995 Sealy (16-0-0) 36.12
7. 1969 Iowa Park (15-0-0) 35.20
8. 1988 Southlake Carroll (16-0-0) 34.88
9. 2001 Everman (15-0-0) 34.47
10. 1970 Refugio (14-0-1) 34.27

I realize this is completely arbitrary but in an attempt to even the field a bit... if you handicap teams by how long ago they won their championship, assuming that more recent teams will be larger on average and use more advanced offensive styles you get the following results:
I adjusted the numbers such that a team from the past playing a team from 2005 would have a margin of victory of 0.5 pts less per game on average for each year that has passed since it actually played. For example, in a matchup of teams 14 years apart, the older team would on average win by a touchdown less, or lose by a touchdown more than if they were playing a team of equivalent quality from the same time period.

Handicapped average margin of victory if the original team were playing against 2005 teams
1. 2002 Everman 38.43
2. 1992 Southlake Carroll 36.06
3. 2001 Everman 32.47
4. 1995 Sealy 31.12
5. 2003 Gainesville 30.07
6. 2005 Wimberley 28.73
7. 1983 Daingerfield 27.94
8. 2004 Gilmer 27.19
9. 1987 Cuero 26.56
10. 1988 Southlake Carroll 26.38

Note: The only teams from more than 20 years ago to make the top 20 are 1983 Daingerfield and 1960 Denver City coming in at #18. That 1960 team scored 719 points and allowed only 88 in 15 games.

[Bearkat]

The '81 Cameron Yoemen.

[Txbroadcaster]

One team always forgotten about is the 86 Jefferson Bulldogs..Had 5 players go D1..many more go to some college or another...One pro player


Had THREE 1,000 yard rushers, two over 2,000..had a 1,000 Wr, and a NASTY defense.

BEat Daingerfield that year in THE best play-off game and atmosphere I have ever seen. Also beat a GREAT pittsburgh team( who BTW the 80 Bucs team was a GREAT team).


Beat Cuero in State Title game by dominating Robert Strait.

Not sayin they were better then 82 D-Field, but need to be in the top

[Crow22]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
Statistically yes. However, could a team from the older style of football and athleticism matchup with many of today's teams which have much better athletes?


Dude, they had 3 or 4 NFL players on that team. "OLDER STYLE"....

LOL....

They gave up 8 total points and won the state title game 42 - 0.

[Texas-Fight]

I don't care what year the games were played if your defense only gives up 7 points all year then you're going to win. That is he plain and simple truth.

[Matthew328]

I am an Everman grad but no one compares to 1983 Daingerfield...

[Highschoolfan78]

dangerfield 83 by far... then you have to look at SLC 92, The gobbler team that messed up in 94,Sealy in the 90's you take pick of the year, Everman 02, Edna of 06 1-0 record so far:)))... well now they wont count with that undefeated record since they are 2a now... darn...:P


another thing.. dont we have this talk every year? I mean i don't mind it but the answer still remains the same, resulting in the final outcome of the 1983 champs

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by GreenMonster
We settled this a while back. 1983 Daingerfield. Gave up only 7 points in 16 games. If you can find a more dominating team than that let us know. without a doubt. followed closely by 1980 pittsburg who gave up 2 points in class 3a all year and that was in the championship game against van vleck. 2 best teams i have ever seen.

[TheDOCTORdre]

question: who was the coach of the '83 dangerfield team?

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
question: who was the coach of the '83 dangerfield team? Dennis Alexander, who is now at 2A Harleton

[icu812]

The state's first team with a 16-0 record. They were the first to go through the playoffs without allowing a point. They allowed eight points all season and shut out 14 opponents, including 13 consecutive, to set a modern-day national record. Their defense scored 76 points and limited opponents, on average, to less than one foot per play. 1983 Daingerfield!!

[BoneyFinger]

How can you talk about the "All Time Best" without mentioning the Brownwood Lions coached by Gordon Wood in the 60’s? I witnessed them beat a very good Bridge City team in 1965 (BC won the 3A State Title in 1966) that had All State running back Steve Wooster. If I am not mistaken, Brownwood won 5 state championships in 3A under Gordon Wood.

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by BoneyFinger
How can you talk about the "All Time Best" without mentioning the Brownwood Lions coached by Gordon Wood in the 60’s? I witnessed them beat a very good Bridge City team in 1965 (BC won the 3A State Title in 1966) that had All State running back Steve Wooster. If I am not mistaken, Brownwood won 5 state championships in 3A under Gordon Wood. But did they allow less than 7 points...???Oh and I think most people are getting at it being the best "season" seeing how we are usually pointing out the certain dates of dominance of each team. Like the 2002 Everman team, or the 83 D-Field squad

[3afan]

Originally posted by GreenMonster
We settled this a while back. 1983 Daingerfield. Gave up only 7 points in 16 games. If you can find a more dominating team than that let us know.


yep - no question about this - no question

[texasjeremy]

1994 Sealy Tigers

[mrescape43]

How could they (whoever) be the best team ever if they didn't win state title?:thinking:

[BTEXDAD]

Originally posted by Adidas410s
Statistically yes. However, could a team from the older style of football and athleticism matchup with many of today's teams which have much better athletes?
you have to compare teams vs their peers of same time period. Athletes are getting progressively bigger and faster and there's no good way to compare a team today to a team 20,30 or more years ago.
From all I've read, mostly in TX Football, I'd go with 1983 Dangerfield. Never saw them play.
The Southlake Carroll team in 92 or 93 was awful dominant. I did see them play.

[vet93]

The answer is YES. Because, it is likely that those Daingerfield players would have been even better had they had some of the "modern" training techniques. Remember this team sent 14 to 16 kids to College Ball, many DI. I think that team had at least 2 that went on to play in the NFL....remember this was a 3a team. Quite honestly, those other teams mentioned are great, but I saw this team in person and no team that I have ever witnessed destroyed their opponents like Daingerfield. Theywere unscored upon in the playoffs....most of these games were complete blowouts and they were still not scored on....even on their second team against many teams first teamers. I was at the State Championship game against Sweeney. They beat Sweeny 42-0 and had two touchdowns called back. By the fourth quarter they were playing some of their LINEMEN at running back. I know that everyone wants to pick a team that they have seen as "The Team" but statistically as well as number of atheltetes from one team that made it to the next level(s), the 1983 Daingerfield team has no equal.


Originally posted by Adidas410s
Statistically yes. However, could a team from the older style of football and athleticism matchup with many of today's teams which have much better athletes?

[g$$]

Daingerfield hands down, folks. And I have played & seen lots of football thru the years, respectfully. Going to playoff games is still a ritual. They gave up 8 points all year (blocked punt recovered in end zone & a safety = 8). Zero in the playoffs, & that was when 1 team per district got in. That's it, & they beat the dog out of a fine Sweeny team in '83 42-0. I was there rooting for the Brazoria County school & it snowed & only got colder the longer the game went on in Waco. A mercy rule should have been in effect that night. They were nasty, on the field & off. They were huge & lightning fast.

I believe 14 players from Daingerfield went to college, including 4 to the NFL years later. The Everett twins (Thomas & Eric), David Whitmore, & one other whose name escapes me. Sweeny had a bunch go to college too, including future NFL linebacker Tracy Simien. Simien now coaches Asst. Defensive Line for the Houston Texans. Don't even try to say "could they match up today". The cream always rises to the top, plus they would have access to modern weight training, etc. too nowadays. The best from any era can play in any era. Could Doak Walker play today, or Nolan Ryan, or Oscar Robertson, or Pele', or any other all-time greats? Of course they could. Tell me someone else from 3A (or any class) that has put 4 guys into the NFL from a single team?

Daingerfield was also reprimanded by the UIL after that season for unsportsmanlike conduct. Head Coach Dennis Alexander was the ringleader & got into some trouble too. Fine coach, GREAT team, & one of the least classy teams I have ever seen. But they were better than any of the quality teams mentioned above. Their starting secondary won the relay gold that year in track. They won state in football & ended up like #6 nationally way before this type of thing became popular. No team from 4A or 5A wanted any part of this group.

On another note, the Sweeny '87 basketball team that won state could match up with anybody statewide that year (Sweeny won 3 state titles in the '80s & also 1954). Won 5A tourneys & coasted to the title. They had size, quickness, depth, & an All American in Benford Williams. He played at Texas & later overseas. LaPorte won 5A that year undefeated & would NOT play Sweeny in a tune-up game - said they had nothing to gain & everything to lose. Don't blame them one bit. People in Austin still refer to that Sweeny team as the standard bearer each year at the tourney when comparing 3A teams.

[District303aPastPlayer]

i still dont think this should even be DEBATED. its very cut and dry :)

[g$$]

Agreed. The numbers don't lie & just ask any long-time follower of Texas HS Football. This group from Daingerfield has been compared to Dallas Carter, Houston Yates, Plano, Odessa Permian, etc. for teams that have passed the test of time. I am glad I saw them play to attest to their on-field greatness. And unfortunately their lack of discipline & conduct that resulted in sanctions / probation from the UIL after the season.

[coachc45]

First off there were no sanctions ever put on Daingerfield that year. They were verbally reprimanded, as was Gladewater.
The reprimand stems from a fight that occured during the quarterfinals that year in which both benches emptied. Not pointing fingers, I was there, but it was as much Gladewater's fault as Daingerfield's.

The kids were classy. Other things not totally accurate. There were no Everette Twins. Thomas was a year older than Eric. Thomas was not on this team, graduated the year before.

They were the best 3A team ever, but do not slander the team with falsehoods.

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by coachc45
First off there were no sanctions ever put on Daingerfield that year. They were verbally reprimanded, as was Gladewater.
The reprimand stems from a fight that occured during the quarterfinals that year in which both benches emptied. Not pointing fingers, I was there, but it was as much Gladewater's fault as Daingerfield's.

The kids were classy. Other things not totally accurate. There were no Everette Twins. Thomas was a year older than Eric. Thomas was not on this team, graduated the year before.

They were the best 3A team ever, but do not slander the team with falsehoods. :clap::clap: That's a fine first post. Welcome aboard:thumbsup:

[spiveyrat]

Jasper had a fine team in 2002. They had so much more potential than they displayed. I think the drop to 3a had many on the team (and fans too) thinking they were going to be handed a ring.

[District303aPastPlayer]

Originally posted by spiveyrat
I think the drop to 3a had many on the team (and fans too) thinking they were going to be handed a ring.

trust me... we knew...

[g$$]

I will try to dig up the players from that Daingerfield team, as I was there & remember the guys I mentioned above (I meant to say brothers not twins, you are correct). If I am wrong, then I stand corrected. But 2 points remain: they were the best 3A team I have ever seen, & also in dire need of discipline & sportsmanship. The fight you mentioned is of no consequence to me - I saw what I saw & yes the UIL did reprimand Daingerfield for more than one incident. They taunted Sweeny that night & were flagged for late hits, etc. all night. I did not see the fight, only the state title game. Dennis Alexander let them run wild a la the Miami teams under Johnson & Erickson. But they could play no doubt.

Who is the other NFL guy from that team: Thomas Everett, Eric Everett, David Whitmore, & ???. There were 4 right? Thanks for the help.

[g$$]

Guess the years run together sometimes. Thomas Everett was at Baylor in '83, while his younger brother Eric was on the Daingerfield team. Thomas is a College Football HOF inductee for 2006, & here is his bio:

Thomas Gregory Everett
Position: S
Height: 5' 9'' Weight: 179
Born: 11/21/1964, in Daingerfield, TX, USA
High School: Daingerfield (TX)
College: Baylor

By Jerry Hill | Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 11:03 AM

Thomas Everett, arguably Baylor’s best defensive back ever, was one of 13 players named Tuesday to the 2006 induction class for the College Football Hall of Fame. Everett, a lightly regarded recruit out of Daingerfield, Texas, earned all-America honors in 1985 and ’86 and was the inaugural winner of the Jim Thorpe Award, given to the nation’s best defensive back. Drafted in the fourth round by the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1987, he had a nine-year NFL career with the Steelers, Dallas Cowboys and Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He played in back-to-back Super Bowls with the Cowboys in 1992-93 and earned a Pro Bowl nod in ‘93. Among the others in the 2006 class are Emmitt Smith, Bruce Smith, Charlie Ward, Chad Hennings, Mike Rozier and legendary coaches Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno. Everett joins former Baylor players Mike Singletary, Lawrence Elkins, Bill Glass, James Ray Smith and Botchey Koch, coaches Morley Jennings and Grant Teaff and former player and assistant coach Hayden Fry, who went in for his coaching accomplishments at SMU, North Texas and Iowa.

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by g$$
I will try to dig up the players from that Daingerfield team, as I was there & remember the guys I mentioned above (I meant to say brothers not twins, you are correct). If I am wrong, then I stand corrected. But 2 points remain: they were the best 3A team I have ever seen, & also in dire need of discipline & sportsmanship. The fight you mentioned is of no consequence to me - I saw what I saw & yes the UIL did reprimand Daingerfield for more than one incident. I did not see the fight, only the state title game. Dennis Alexander let them run wild a la the Miami teams under Johnson & Erickson. But they could play no doubt.

Who is the other NFL guy from that team: Thomas Everett, Eric Everett, David Whitmore, & ???. There were 4 right? Thanks for the help. te Steve Stutsman?

[g$$]

Stutsman was younger than these guys. He was a fine player at Baylor too. Here's his bio from Arena League:

Steve Stutsman


WR/LB
Born: 1969-08-24
6' 4", 230
Baylor

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by g$$
Stutsman was younger than these guys. He was a fine player at Baylor too. Here's his bio from Arena League:

Steve Stutsman


WR/LB
Born: 1969-08-24
6' 4", 230
Baylor i thought he was. i know the QB on one of those championship teams was a guy named Doug Pittman.

[coachc45]

I was a soph. JV/manager at Daingerfield in 83. On the sideline for all 16 games. I have very vivid memories of that season. You are right the 3 NFL players you listed were the only long term NFLers. Willie Everett was a Tackle on a few practice squads and Rodney Mims had a cup of coffee for a couple of teams.

As for the discipline you talk about, I think you mistake swagger for being poor sports. I can only remember 1 incident all year, gladewater, that required any attention. There were no sanctions from the UIL, for anything. I have coached with a couple of guys who played against us, and coach with a guy now who coached against us that year and have never heard anyione say anything remotely derogatory about that team.

[g$$]

Daingerfield was a great team, no doubt. And we can agree to disagree on the issue of UIL involvement. I will ask a guy I know from the UIL what he remembers. I know the difference between swagger & taunting, etc. They had every right to play with swagger & confidence. I, however, do not condone acting unsportsmanlike & getting flagged repeatedly for such actions. I vividly remember an incident near the end of the game where Daingerfield was taunting the Sweeny bench & fans. And a fight almost ensued. Granted, Sweeny was frustrated at the outcome of the game, but there is no place for that stuff. Act like you've been there before right? I was only 13 years old then but I remember it well, & also the talk afterwards & resulting action by the UIL after the season. Maybe it came down the next season - but something happened involving Dennis Alexander & he ended up leaving right (probationary period)? Anyway, I appreciate your 1st hand knowledge & professionalism. That was a special group. Good luck in your coaching career too. Take care.

[coachc45]

Thank you for the compliment and also for not turning this ugly in anyway. I do not remember the taunting but I can not say with any certainty it didn't happen. I'll look at the film.

Dennis Alexander was not sanctioned at all and did not leave Daingerfield until after the 89 season. He was the head coach the next 2 years in which we lost in the championship game to Medina Valley and then beat Cuero in 85. He left on his own after 89 to join his brother(supt) in Henderson.

Thanks again for the good discussion.... it is cool reliving the "Glory Days" of my youth.