Title IX

[turbostud]

There is an interesting article over at foxnews.com about the Bush administrations Commission on Oppurtunity in Athletics and proposed changes to Title IX.
Here's a taste of the article "the commisioners also urged schools to stop overspending on sports such as football and mens basketball whose budgets are cited as limiting opportunities in minor sports for both men and women". Any Opinions?

<small>[ January 30, 2003, 09:55 AM: Message edited by: turbostud ]</small>

[BIG19]

I think since Title IX is trying to equalize the sports between males and females, then the powers at be should also extend the same to the Selective Service. Equality for all, right?

[Old Cardinal]

I don't really have a problem with a little balance in HS sports between the programs. I see a dozen so-called football Coaches on the side of the field at a lot of games, half of them just standing around, not making one contribution to the game. I see other sports, getting little support at all. Coaches who could not care less as softball coaches, just trying to garner a little more of the taxpayers money. Don't get me wrong, I love football, but when I see women ex-college softball stars not getting the jobs because of the closed-shop "good ole boy" HS networks in Texas, something is wrong! Title IX was designed to give the girls a sporting chance, it been here for 30 years and largely ignored by many HS athletics departments and school boards. Girls athletics and non-football sports deserve some of the taxpayers money. Some taxpayers(parents and grandparents) have girls and even boys quite skilled in minor sports; fairness will not ruin HS Texas football.

[Matthew328]

It is all about money...Tittle IX is a good thing but football makes things out of wack especially in colleges..BUT lets be honest....football is the bellcow of most schools budgets...when was the last time you saw 10,000 people at a girls volleyball game? Heck the state volleyball tourney in Austin doesn't sell out and that has 20 of the top volleyball teams in the state..so of course people will give football certian favors becuase of the amount of money it brings in..heck in a lot of colleges football is what keeps the other smaller sports afloat..I personally like the idea of football not being counted in Tittle IX first of all because there is no equivalent sport for women AND it should also be considered a coed sport because women are allowed to play..but that is just my opinion..

[Old Cardinal]

Matt, I respectfully disagree, all those Coaches connected to football salaries strip all the "profits" out of football ticketing. It too is a liability to the taxpayer.

[whtfbplaya]

Football costs more to play than vollyball or softball. They should have a much larger budget. Football teams need 10 or 15 coaches. Football also brings in more money than all the other sports conbined. Football teams spend more money on helmets than any other sport spends total. My favorite is when tennis players B**** about how we get so much more money, what do they have to get a racket some balls a net come on.

[Matthew328]

OC come on..look at what you are saying here..you are basically accusing coaches of pocketing profits made at the gate...I agree there may be some money hungry coaches out there but the vast majority of coaches are good people...like I said football should be considered a co-ed sport thus excluding it from Tittle IX

[Old Cardinal]

Matt, Maybe I have been paying taxes longer than you. But the only folks complying to the law are Colleges. In Colleges, womens sports are drawing big crowds and there are now 2.1 million College women athletes, as compared to less than 200,000 when Title IX became the law of the land. It is only HS Athletic Departments that give the choice salaries to the "good ole boys"; in all too many cases.

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[PPHSfan]

Old Cardinal:
.....I see a dozen so-called football Coaches on the side of the field at a lot of games, half of them just standing around, not making one contribution to the game. .
Old Card,
Correct me if I am wrong, but out of the 12-15 "so called" coaches on the sidelines at most highschool football games, don't all but one of them usually teach a class, or principle a school, or clean some commodes for their salary? I was under the impression that with the exception of the AD/HC in most schools, all of the other "so called" coaches were paid in some other capacity.

[Jacket2000]

OC, #1, any coach who is after money is definately in the wrong profession. Maybe you havent looked into coaches' salaries lately, but I assure you, no one's getting rich off of it.
#2, does it not make sense to invest in the sport that will bring the most revenue. Would you rather invest your money in Enron or in Microsoft?
#3,it's no secret that football requires much more money than any other sport. If you funded volleyball with the same amount as football, the girls could charter a bus for every district game.
#4, If football makes more revenue, then why not let them keep it? We dont need two Robin Hood plans.
It's kinda funny, I never figured you to be a Socialist.
J2K

[Matthew328]

I am all for women getting opprotunities in sports..and to be honest Tittle IX has been great for women sports...but like J2K said we don't need another Robin Hood plan..BUT the funding for minor sports shouldn't come at the expense of the revenue sports..and yes women's sports draw good crowds in some cases...but there is no comparison when you compare other sports with football..or mens basketball for that matter..

[Mad Dawg 20/20]

Besides teaching,spending the week-end looking at films and other coaches duties, don't most football coaches coach more than one sport?
And other than the head coach or AD the assistants salaries are from their teaching, not their coaching.

[Mad Dawg 20/20]

Besides teaching,spending the week-end looking at films and other coaches duties, don't most football coaches coach more than one sport?
And other than the head coach or AD the assistants salaries are from their teaching, not their coaching.

[Mad Dawg 20/20]

sorry, I did not mean to post twice.

[Old Cardinal]

Jacket, I might be too conservative, too patriotic, too free-enterprise based, too right wing, too traditional; but I am not a Socialist, a Socialist is a liberal left-winger democrate-that I am not!

[Jacket2000]

Well, Title IX sure sounds like socialism to me.
J2K