Sweeny in Region IV, a threat!

[Old Cardinal]

I watched Sweeny beat an excellent upstart Splendora team last year. Then they took it to Bridge City with a very aggressive attack. Had the BC players not change the play in the huddle and thrown a long end-zone corner pass to Luther Sanders, Sweeny would have upset them. I know that Sinton is loaded; however, Sweeny might well be their best competitor for the Region IV crown. They are a tough bunch of junkyard dogs, when it comes to hardnose football.

[QBKilla]

Well I have't seen them play in a while but I know in 2000 they had a very good team. They shelled us(Barbers Hill) 31-7 in the area game. They certainly have some tremendous athletes out that way. I'm sure they have plenty more coming up through the ranks.

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[Specklebelly]

Whats all this Sweeny support? Sweeny may be down more this year than they have been in the last 10 years. They lost a ton and really dont have much to reload with. If you are looking for a team to come out of their district and make some noise in the playoffs in D2, look to Edna or Rice Cons. Edna returns a truckload of players and Rice lost just as much as Sweeny but had an undefeated JV to pull up new talent from. I believe both of those teams will have the upper hand on Sweeny, not to mention Wharton who should be the D1 representative.

[Old Cardinal]

Dear Mr. Belly----Did you happen to fall on your head off a turnip wagon lately?....Sweeny has an excellent bunch of Juniors returning as Seniors. Your Rice and Edna will not even challenge them! Sweeny will not be down this year, they have a good ongoing building program.

[eye of the tiger]

Sweeny-- 5 offensive and 6 defensive starters and 16 lettermen returning from Div I region finalest. I think the Bulldogs will compete for a nice piece of the pie.

[QBKilla]

I'm pretty sure Rice lost the majority of their players also. Not to say they don't have any new talent.

[Specklebelly]

You are entitled to your opinion Old Cardinal. I really dont know what you mean "ongoing, building program" though. That program is built, rock solid and they have been a steady playoff team for a very long time. Im certainly not going to argue about their talent though considering its June. I do think its funny that last year Im here warning everyone to watch out for Sweeny and everyone argues with me saying they are weak and now its the total opposite. I was right last year about them being very talented and I believe I will be right this year about them being a little down. I will say that Sweeny is a school who just constantly produces athletes and they never believe they shouldnt win. They will definitely have a mental edge over Edna and Wharton in that regard. Im hoping that they finish 3rd ahead of Wharton but I just dont think it will happen this year.

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[bc 76]

SWENNY WILL BE DOWN A BIT THIS YEAR.WHARTON BEAT SWENNY JV & FRESHMAN TEAMS LAST YEAR.SWEENY WILL ALWAYS BE TOUGH AND THEY DO HAVE A GOOD PROGRAM,BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE GUY FROM RICE CONS.THEY WILL BE DOWN THIS YEAR.I KNOW RICE ALSO WILL BE DOWN ABIT TO,BUT I DID SEE THERE JV TEAM LAST YEAR AND THEY WERE VERY GOOD.AS FAR AS EDNA THE WOODS KID FROM BAY CITY WILL HELP THEM A LOT ON DEFENSE STUD LB.

[Crow22]

Old Cardinal,

You being such an expert about our area over here should be enough to make all these people understand that you know exactly what you're talking about. I mean, it's only 2 and a half hours from BC to Rice, right? You should know all about Sweeny, Rice, Wharton, and Edna, right? Geez, man. Give me a break.

Sweeny will be down. Trust me. Yes, they have 5&6 returning but the ones they lost will not be replaced this year. Rice lost alot, true. But they will be able to replace what they lost. Edna will be much improved and Wharton will always have the athletes.

Here's my prediction. (from someone a little more familiar than you.)

Rice
Wharton
Edna
Sweeny
Needville
Palacios

[bc 76]

SORRY CROW BUT RICE WILL BE DOWN MORE THAN SWENNY.THEY HAD A GOOD JV TEAM BUT CANNOT REPLACE THE TALENT THAT THEY LOST.WHARTON ON PAPER LOOK TOUGH BUT THOSE KIDS HAVE TO WIN ON THE PLAYING FIELD FIRST,LACK OF DICIPLINE HAS REALLY HURT THEM.

[Crow22]

No. Rice will not be down as much as Sweeny. Ask any of the Sweeny coaches and they will tell you the same.



Originally posted by bc 76:
SORRY CROW BUT RICE WILL BE DOWN MORE THAN SWENNY.THEY HAD A GOOD JV TEAM BUT CANNOT REPLACE THE TALENT THAT THEY LOST.WHARTON ON PAPER LOOK TOUGH BUT THOSE KIDS HAVE TO WIN ON THE PLAYING FIELD FIRST,LACK OF DICIPLINE HAS REALLY HURT THEM.

[Old Cardinal]

Mr. Crow, I watched Sweeny play two good ballgames last year and was totally impressed with their Juniors that were on the field. I DROVE TO HOUSTON 1 1/2 HALF HOURS. They beat one good Splendora team. Their 16 lettermen are bonafied returnees. Good luck to Rice, they are going to need it! You Rice folks made a lot of noise last year to not get very far, think the same thing will happen this year? As far as the Sweeny Coaches, they think the are going to succeed, just like any Coaches in Texas(or they should be selling life insurance), that's just the nature of the beast! Best of luck, my friend, but Sweeny the new kid on the block in Region IV, can take care of themselves, from the two games that I saw last year. Honestly, how many actual games did you see them play over in Region III last year?

[Crow22]

How many games have I seen them play? I've been coaching against them for the past 4 years.

You drove 1 and 1/2 hours to Houston, right? Well, just like I said you're 2 and 1/2 hours from our district.

Rice made alot of noise to "not get very far?" O.K. We went 11-2.

Look, I call a truce. I'll go back to minding my own business and you go back to your Bridge City Booster Club Meeting.


Originally posted by Old Cardinal:
Mr. Crow, I watched Sweeny play two good ballgames last year and was totally impressed with their Juniors that were on the field. I DROVE TO HOUSTON 1 1/2 HALF HOURS. They beat one good Splendora team. Their 16 lettermen are bonafied returnees. Good luck to Rice, they are going to need it! You Rice folks made a lot of noise last year to not get very far, think the same thing will happen this year? As far as the Sweeny Coaches, they think the are going to succeed, just like any Coaches in Texas(or they should be selling life insurance), that's just the nature of the beast! Best of luck, my friend, but Sweeny the new kid on the block in Region IV, can take care of themselves, from the two games that I saw last year. Honestly, how many actual games did you see them play over in Region III last year?

Crow, while that wasn't a ban-able offense,and it was pretty funny, it was still inapporpriate. So, let's try to keep the controversy to a minimum.
J2K

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[Old Cardinal]

Wow, you told me off didn't you? Bet you have a nervous breakdown before I do! Don't get your shorts in a twist old Feller, its just a forum where folks can express their opinions-none of us need a heart attack. As to the crack about the "klan", I was one of the football players that escorted the first blacks into the College at Lamar in Beaumont. Never know do you? If you can't handle the pressure, get a Degree in Science, you can make twice as much as a Coach!

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[Old Cardinal]

Hey Crow, How's your blood pressure this morning? When I said that Rice didn't get very far last year, I was being facetious! That's F-A-C-E-T-I-O-U-S:might want to look it up in the dictionary. If I were you, I would hire some real smart assistances or Palacious, Sweeny, Edna, Needville, and Wharton might just kick you by two touchdowns each! You remind me of the story about the English Teacher and the History Teacher sitting in the Lounge chatting about American History when the Head Coach walked in. Being polite they tried to engage him in the conversation by asking what he thought of the tactics of Stonewall Jackson? He immediately replied, "I don't know that Coach, but I can beat the bum in the fourth quarter with my running attack." You know, I just might drive TWO & ONE HALF HOURS down to see you play Sweeny-I will be the one behind you saying "I told you so!"

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[BH_146]

Old Cardinal, I don't think he is at Rice this year.

[sinton66]

Old Cardinal, assuming Sinton makes it that far, how do you think Sweeny will match up? They've met at least a couple of times in years past, with Sinton owning the edge. Just curious.

[Matthew328]

Sweeny will only be Division 1 if Wharton misses the playoffs....I think Sweeny will more than likley end up in Division 2...if they did play I think Sinton would have the edge though...

[Old Cardinal]

I have to agree, till someone swamps Sinton, I have to go with Sinton. I was just stating the Sweeny was a threat and not a wash-over. I have been told that Sinton is considered a magnet school with lots of money and that helps contribute to their domination. 66, is that just jealous folks, or what?

[sinton66]

Old Cardinal, Sinton is a Title I school as are most of the systems in South Texas. They have something of a natural draw of folks that don't want to live in Corpus Christi, but I wouldn't call them a "magnet school" in the traditional sense of the word. It's more of a natural migration because Sinton is a nice town with good people and a good school system (not to mention a strong athletic tradition)and only 28 miles from Corpus. They don't have a LOT of money. There are people there that have money, but the vast majority don't. There are some large farms and ranches in the area. Outside that, there isn't much industry or other economy to fall back on. Probably 4/5 of the population work somewhere else and commute back and forth. When they decide to do something with the schools, it's usually by bond issue like everybody else. Sorry for the ramble, hope I answered your question.
And Matthew is probably right, it would depend on what Wharton does. They might get to face Mathis though.Past history, Sweeny prevailed against other 30-3A teams. I know they beat Odem several times in the playoffs.

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[The_Great_One]

I dont think Sweeny will be down as some people think! Just because Rice and Wharton JV beat Sweeny last year doesnt mean anything this year. Because most of the the main characters that are soon to be jrs. were on the Varisty squad. And the Jr class have some pretty good players. Thats just my take!

[S-Town06]

Sweeny will be a little weak but they have a good Jr. QB that will lead them to the playoffs. Rice only beat Sweeny JV. 12-0 last year and that's becuz all there good players were on V-squad...

Look out for Sweeny Freshman squad also....

[Specklebelly]

Yeah S-town06, you have a good point. Im sure Sweeny had all of their good players on varsity while Rice loaded their JV in order to assure an undefeated JV team. That would explain that 12-0 victory for Rice of which you speak. Oh wait, Rice's varsity beat you too. Well, I just dont know what to think now. Please help me understand how that could have happened.

[S-Town06]

They beat our Varsity becuz we had our best player hurt and 5 more starters hurt ... They beat us only by 3points....

[Specklebelly]

Im really beginning to question the value of a Sweeny High School education. First of all, its because, not becuz. Second, you lost 21 to 15. 21 minus 15 is six, not three. Id also like you to identify this best player that was hurt and didnt play against Rice. Higgins, Baca, and Smith all played and they were your best receiver, QB, and RB. I would advise you to quit shooting your mouth off with far fetched, fictional statements. Studying a little Math and English probably wouldn't hurt either.