School Uniforms

[KingRob]

Cuero recently went to school uniforms. What does everyone think of wearing uniforms to school? I think it's a bad idea. You still have to buy the kids clothes to wear after school. Do you think they are going to wear uniforms to the mall, movies, or the football games. I don't get it.

[kaorder1999]

its a great idea.

[KingRob]

Why do you think so?

[CHS_CG]

Originally posted by KingRob
Cuero recently went to school uniforms. What does everyone think of wearing uniforms to school? I think it's a bad idea. You still have to buy the kids clothes to wear after school. Do you think they are going to wear uniforms to the mall, movies, or the football games. I don't get it.

Caldwell was "uniforms" IMO if a school is goin to make you wear a uniform they should buy and supply the students with it... NOT IN CALDWELL! here is the link to Caldwell's dress code letter on the school website.

http://www.caldwell.k12.tx.us/CHS/Default_CHS.htm

on the left side click where it says "dress code" and it will bring it up.

[HighSchool Fan]

Originally posted by CHS_CG
Caldwell was "uniforms" IMO if a school is goin to make you wear a uniform they should buy and supply the students with it... NOT IN CALDWELL! here is the link to Caldwell's dress code letter on the school website.

http://www.caldwell.k12.tx.us/CHS/Default_CHS.htm

on the left side click where it says "dress code" and it will bring it up.

if they should have to buy the clothes, then why shouldn't they also have to buy all the supplies??

[CHS_CG]

Originally posted by HighSchool Fan
if they should have to buy the clothes, then why shouldn't they also have to buy all the supplies??


im sayin if a school is goin to make you have a uniform it should be a school uniform! With this, and i know for a fact, that our school does not enforce this crap the same for everybody! if everybody had the exact same uniform there would be no problems, but with this there has already been problems!

supplies is a totally different thing IMO

[KingRob]

I have read where some parents said it would save money on buying clothes. How is that? Some say this will keep the rich kids from dressing better than the less rich kids. So much for success and wanting to make money to buy your kids nice things! The students will pay less attention to fashion and more time learning. I was once in high school, ever heard of hormones? :rolleyes:

[Ranger Mom]

All the middle schools in Midland have gone to uniforms....the high school's haven't yet.

The tried to change over to Uniforms in Greenwood a few years ago...there was WAY TOO many people fighting against it, and it was knocked down REAL fast!!

[BullFrog Dad]

Originally posted by KingRob
Cuero recently went to school uniforms. What does everyone think of wearing uniforms to school? I think it's a bad idea. You still have to buy the kids clothes to wear after school. Do you think they are going to wear uniforms to the mall, movies, or the football games. I don't get it. KingRob, Is it policy for the high school also? LW has had a uniform policy for about nine years but only for K-8th. You're right about it costing extra because the kids want as many normal clothes as usual. I can say this that my kids will never wear a tennis style shirt ever again!

[kaorder1999]

there is a difference between a Uniform policy where they are required to wear certain color collared shirts (usually about 4 colors to choose from) and certain color pants or shorts. Where I am they have to be wearing a certain style shirt, shorts, or pants with a belt and shoes. Its not like a private school "uniform" with a shirt and tie and everything. It just makes everyone look nicer and keeps the pants up and in the right place.

You would think that this would cause problems but I'm at a 3A school that has very few probs with it. You have the occasional kid who forgets his belt one day but they get their warning and detention the next time they forget. Makes them be a little more responsible. You don't have to address dress code violations as much as you do without the uniform policy! As an educator it is great!

[HighSchool Fan]

Originally posted by CHS_CG
im sayin if a school is goin to make you have a uniform it should be a school uniform! With this, and i know for a fact, that our school does not enforce this crap the same for everybody! if everybody had the exact same uniform there would be no problems, but with this there has already been problems!

supplies is a totally different thing IMO

why is it different?? the supplies are required by the school just like a dress code is?? i don't see no difference at all

[KingRob]

According to the Cuero Record it includes the high school. They are having problems with it. Some parents wanted western style (??) shirts and the board bent the rules for that. Today I read where Letter jackets can now include Dallas Cowboy jackets. Silly!

[pirate4state]

:nerd: I'm all for uniforms!! If these kids (HS) want clothes for after school activities than they can work for them! We didn't have dress codes, but I worked every summer to buy the clothes that I wanted to wear. Sure my parents helped out w/ a pair of jeans here & there.

I'm sick of the way our youth just expects everything. No one is doing them any favors by catering to their "demands". They will be in for a huge shock once they get out in the real world! Just my 2 cents.

[CHS_CG]

Originally posted by HighSchool Fan
why is it different?? the supplies are required by the school just like a dress code is?? i don't see no difference at all


bc teachers dont really care if everybody in the class has a blue pencil or a yellow or a green but they care if all the students have the same style shirt and pants. Personally, I believe if you are goin to go a put a "uniform" dress code on a school, the school should provide "private school" uniforms.

[KingRob]

Now it's the loose pants falling down. In my days we wore our pants so tight, it left very little to the imagination (for the guys and gals). If I'm correct it's certain colored polo shirts and khaki pants. No skirts or dresses for the young ladies. If anything, I think the seniors should be exempt. I mean they are seniors!

[HighSchool Fan]

Originally posted by CHS_CG
bc teachers dont really care if everybody in the class has a blue pencil or a yellow or a green but they care if all the students have the same style shirt and pants. Personally, I believe if you are goin to go a put a "uniform" dress code on a school, the school should provide "private school" uniforms.

but the school does require you to have pencils, pens, lined paper, map pencils and other things. it's no difference than requiring a uniform. they should pay for everything else that they require if they are to pay for school clothes also.

[CHS_CG]

Originally posted by HighSchool Fan
but the school does require you to have pencils, pens, lined paper, map pencils and other things. it's no difference than requiring a uniform. they should pay for everything else that they require if they are to pay for school clothes also.


If you say so:rolleyes:

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by KingRob
If anything, I think the seniors should be exempt. I mean they are seniors! Why? They are supposed to be the leaders of the school. I'm just gonna drop it. It's not that important to me. ;)

[LeonJr]

Originally posted by pirate4state
Why? They are supposed to be the leaders of the school. I'm just gonna drop it. It's not that important to me. ;)

Leon agrees I am well convinced that this is true!

[AP Panther Fan]

Originally posted by kaorder1999
there is a difference between a Uniform policy where they are required to wear certain color collared shirts (usually about 4 colors to choose from) and certain color pants or shorts. Where I am they have to be wearing a certain style shirt, shorts, or pants with a belt and shoes. Its not like a private school "uniform" with a shirt and tie and everything. It just makes everyone look nicer and keeps the pants up and in the right place.

You would think that this would cause problems but I'm at a 3A school that has very few probs with it. You have the occasional kid who forgets his belt one day but they get their warning and detention the next time they forget. Makes them be a little more responsible. You don't have to address dress code violations as much as you do without the uniform policy! As an educator it is great!

I agree with this wholeheartedly! As a parent it is great as well. We have 5 different colors of polo's, plain 5 pocket jeans (sized appropriately) or khaki's (pants or shorts).

When AP went to standardized dress, my life became much easier. No more arguing or stressing out in the morning before school over what the kids were wearing. I personally also think it costs much less. Polo's at Academy are less than $10.00 apiece....sure they are gonna want a few designer things for weekends and that is fine too, but overall it is still cheaper and you can't even begin to put a price on the mental well-being aspects of it.:)

[Hupernikomen]

Schools do what sometimes schools have to do. Putting into effect a uniform dress code in a location where it isn't needed certainly is a battle. You all should sign up to sub at a high for just a day where they fight the hip hugger pants and short shirts etc. and you find out right quick why so many schools are fed up and going to a uniform policy.

[HighSchool Fan]

well said panther and huper. i'm sure some of the one's here against the dress code don't have children in school yet and are to young to understand the benefits of a uniform code.

[BullFrog Dad]

Originally posted by HighSchool Fan
well said panther and huper. i'm sure some of the one's here against the dress code don't have children in school yet and are to young to understand the benefits of a uniform code. Actually I probably have more experience with uniform codes than anyone on this thread. My son wore them 5th through 8th and my daughter 2nd through 8th. There are a few advantages but not nothing earth-shattering. I say they aren't worth the trouble.

[AP Panther Fan]

Originally posted by HighSchool Fan
well said panther and huper. i'm sure some of the one's here against the dress code don't have children in school yet and are to young to understand the benefits of a uniform code.

I have three kids, ages 17, 12 and 9, and I can't even begin to tell you how much I appreciate standardized dress.

Less stress, lower costs, kids being accountable for their attire, whether or not you did your homework being more important than what brand of jeans you have on ...... it's all good!

I will tell you where some schools have problems though, and that is in enforcement. It has to be implemented district wide, in other words, one campus shouldn't enforce it any differently than the other. That is where the principals and teachers often have to step up their efforts in order to be consistent.

[Hannibal]

Originally posted by KingRob
I have read where some parents said it would save money on buying clothes. How is that? Some say this will keep the rich kids from dressing better than the less rich kids. So much for success and wanting to make money to buy your kids nice things! The students will pay less attention to fashion and more time learning. I was once in high school, ever heard of hormones? :rolleyes:


Yes, I have heard of hormones. And having taught at a school that went from no dress code to a standardized dress code, I think that it is a good thing. When I first started teaching, girls were practically falling out of their clothes. I mean, you would find more cotton in the top of an asprin bottle than on some of those girls. Also, I don't know about some of you, but I definitely don't want to see some guy's boxers as he is walking down the hall.

There hasn't been any direct correlation between dress and learning. That said, the fewer the distractions in the classroom, the better off everyone will be.

[Gobbla2001]

When I was in school at Cuero High we had to tuck in our shirts, wear shoes, belts, hair couldn't below the ear, no ears pierced for the guys, girls shorts had to be longer and yada yada yada... that was fine with me...

Going back to the school paying for uni's etc... and are supplies the same arguement...

The state requires kids to go through school... to go through school, you need to have or borrow school supplies... But you do not 'need' to dress like you work in a high-rise somewhere in the city... until uniforms have been proven to have that great of an effect on learning, having them paid for isn't that bad of an idea...

And also, it will not make the richer kids equal to the poorer... A rich kid will get the best slacks money can buy and the best polo-style shirts that money can buy, while the poorer kids may be sporting wally-world... and everyone will know...

I don't really disagree totally with the dress code, so I won't get bent out of shape over it... but it would be nice if it were more organized than it is... this dress code seemed almost 'spur of the moment' if you will, very unorganized in Cuero...

[AP Panther Fan]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
... but it would be nice if it were more organized than it is... this dress code seemed almost 'spur of the moment' if you will, very unorganized in Cuero...

I know in AP a considerable amount of time went into surveying other schools and parents the year before it was enacted here.

Don't know that it made it an easier transition, but as a parent I was at least glad that they asked for my opinion and input (which I am always more than happy to give).:D :D :D

[HighSchool Fan]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001

The state requires kids to go through school...

not necessarily, kids don't have to go to school. anyone can teach their kids at home. and if it's required, how come there are so many drop outs??

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by Hupernikomen
You all should sign up to sub at a high for just a day where they fight the hip hugger pants and short shirts etc. and you find out right quick why so many schools are fed up and going to a uniform policy. That's the truth if it were ever told.

[Astrosdawg07]

If the school is public I don't think they should decide what you wear.:nerd:

[Highschoolfan78]

I'm just glad im out. Maybe everyone going to school should just say NO

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by HighSchool Fan
not necessarily, kids don't have to go to school. anyone can teach their kids at home. and if it's required, how come there are so many drop outs??

Maybe Cuero and the schools I am thinking about go by a different state's laws, but parents can be arrested/fined if their kids do not go to school until their kids reach a certain age (maybe it is 16) where they can drop out if they like...

I've heard of school officials being able to go into a home and take a child to school because it is the law for them to be there (of course there are all sorts of things that have to happen before they are allowed to do so)

Home-school is an option, but if their parents work and need their job, it isn't an option...

Like I said, I'm not too much against it so I wouldn't know, just saying there's a big difference between school supplies and uniforms...

[NateDawg39]

In Decatur they wanted to go with uniforms but it never went through thank goodness.

[Hupernikomen]

Originally posted by Astrosdawg07
If the school is public I don't think they should decide what you wear.:nerd:


surely you jest.

[AP Panther Fan]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
just saying there's a big difference between school supplies and uniforms...

I tend to agree with you on this, it is pretty much my responsibility to feed, clothe and provide shelter for my kids....and perhaps school supplies to a certain extent, but it does get frustrating having to buy excessive amounts of folders, pencils, paper, kleenax, plastic baggies etc....it seems that the list gets longer and longer each year. :mad: I am not sure if I am buying for my kids or 20 others whose parents won't send supplies. It seems worse in the elementary age levels for some reason and you would think the schools should be able to supply some of this and could purchase it in bulk much cheaper than the typical family can.

[JR2004]

I believe that it should be on a school-by-school basis. Some schools may feel the need to have a uniform policy due to other circumstances at the school while others may not. Believe it or not, Madison instituted a uniform policy this year and the school thus far has been the best behaved that it's been in years. This year was the first that anyone could remember that the first day of school didn't see several fights on campus.

[crabman]

I can't believe none of the Cuero people have jumped on here to talk about this. Cuero does not have school uniforms. They have uniform dress. BIGGGGG Difference. Kids wear polo shirts or button up oxford type shirts in solid colors only. No stripes. No flowers. No plaids. Pants are jeans or blue, black, or khaki pants. Shirts are tucked in and belts are worn. No flip flops. No T-shirts except approved Cuero Gobbler spirit shirts.
I was up at the school today and didn't notice anything unusual about the clothes other than everybody was neat. Hundreds of colors and combinations. They just all looked good.
The teachers seem to like it a lot. Adminstrators love it. Discipline seems to be much better.
I have always felt that the sole purpose of a dress code of any kind was to let the kids know who was boss. I think this one is working.
It doesn't cost any more to buy a solid color shirt than it does stripes or plaids so cost is not a factor. It's here to stay and it works.

[West22]

Think about all the money you save by not having to out style everyone else .With all students all dressed alike there are no gang indenty ,nerds ,cowboys ,etc think about it .

[Bandera YaYa]

I went to bat for my kids when the uniform issue was put to vote here....I am strongly against smashing one's individuality....I think kids can learn no matter what they happen to be wearing.....too much time spent on monitoring what a kid is wearing......Just my opinion, but then I'm sure this comes as no surprise, right?????? :D :D

[Bandera YaYa]

Originally posted by West22
Think about all the money you save by not having to out style everyone else .With all students all dressed alike there are no gang indenty ,nerds ,cowboys ,etc think about it . Ohhhhhhhhh so you want everyone to be alike............to look alike and think alike too????? :rolleyes:

Seriously, people will continue to be nerds and cowboys no matter what they wear.....geezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :rolleyes:

[GreenMonster]

Personally, I think this is just another example of Socialism pervading into our FREE country. It's no better than the seatbelt law. I feel that government (yes school is considered part of the government) has no business sticking it's nose into my business. If I want to buy my kids ratty clothes ( which I don't) then I will. And they said Communism was dead, yeah right! Go read the First Amendment a couple of times and make up your own mind.

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by Bandera YaYa
....too much time spent on monitoring what a kid is wearing..... :D :D I think your missing the point. There's actually less time spent on monitoring what kids wear because there is a standard. Most people have no idea how tough it is to enforce dress code when there is no uniform standard. It's completely ambiguous. It's a constant problem that is solved with a uniform standard.

[neck_94]

Originally posted by CHS_CG
im sayin if a school is goin to make you have a uniform it should be a school uniform! With this, and i know for a fact, that our school does not enforce this crap the same for everybody! if everybody had the exact same uniform there would be no problems, but with this there has already been problems!


thats funny, we have a "dress-code" and same thing happens. It is not enforced the same for everybody .
I think a uniform shirt or vest (like some jobs require in the real world) would be the way to. For a little while at least. I think the school/local businesses should purchase enough for each student to have a couple, charge the kids a deposit, and designate a pant color, and material it must be made of.
Go ahead, lets hear what you think...

[CHS_CG]

Originally posted by neck_94
thats funny, we have a "dress-code" and same thing happens. It is not enforced the same for everybody .
I think a uniform shirt or vest (like some jobs require in the real world) would be the way to. For a little while at least. I think the school/local businesses should purchase enough for each student to have a couple, charge the kids a deposit, and designate a pant color, and material it must be made of.
Go ahead, lets hear what you think...


I agree! if that doesnt work go to a private school uniform or just forget the hell about it! lol i agree with ya ya too! our school (when i was there ) spent WAY to much time with checkin everystudent, they were takin the first 5 minutes of CLASS TIME to check stuff. yes if they all had a school uniform they wouldnt take that long but with the "everybody must wear polo type or polo shirts and jeans that arent wide leg and blah blah blah" they have ppl that get away with things more than others.

[Hannibal]

Do you have a ""dress code" or "uniform" where you work (if you work)?

I do. If I don't abide by it, I won't work very long. Is this a violation of my First Amendment rights?

[kaorder1999]

Originally posted by Hannibal
Do you have a ""dress code" or "uniform" where you work (if you work)?

I do. If I don't abide by it, I won't work very long. Is this a violation of my First Amendment rights?

great point

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Hannibal
Do you have a ""dress code" or "uniform" where you work (if you work)?

I do. If I don't abide by it, I won't work very long. Is this a violation of my First Amendment rights?

Almost every place I have worked has had a fairly strict dress code - ex: no tennis shoes, dress/skirt must have hose, no jeans except on Fridays, etc. When I was in 7th-9th grades, the school I attended had a dress code - females were not allowed to wear pants of any kind except on Friday game days or if the temperature got below a certain amount in the winter. Somehow, I managed to survive.

The company I work for now has a very "relaxed" dress code, to say the least. Supposedly, spagetti straps are not allowed, unless they're covered by another top. We hire many, many recent college graduates, and unfortunately there are quite a few who don't quite understand the concept of no spagetti straps or even feel it's absolutely necessary to wear a brassiere when they show up to work. :rolleyes:

My philosphy for the department I used to supervise was if you were constantly have to pull it down/up, then it didn't belong in the workplace. Every person I interviewed was told that.

[BullFrog Dad]

Originally posted by Hannibal
Do you have a ""dress code" or "uniform" where you work (if you work)?

I do. If I don't abide by it, I won't work very long. Is this a violation of my First Amendment rights? Not at all. It's your right to choose this company to be your employer and source of income. Public school is mandatory with private school/home school/truancy being the only options. I bet if these Pro-Uniform Dress Code posters had to do it when they were in school they would be singing a different tune. You didn't and you all turned out to be fine citizens.

[Rabbit'93]

Personally I would have loved to have "uniform dress" when I was in school. People say the administrators are spending too much time worrying about what the kids are wearing. Well if they're all the same then its not a problem. The whole freedom of expression thing is crap. That's the problem. Kids should be worried about their studies and not trying to put on a fashion show. It all boils down to people do not liked to be told what to do. Just my .02

[BullFrog Dad]

Originally posted by Rabbit'93
Personally I would have loved to have "uniform dress" when I was in school. Not me. I was too concerned about what shirt was going to catch the eye of that cute girl in history class.

[HighSchool Fan]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Almost every place I have worked has had a fairly strict dress code - ex: no tennis shoes, dress/skirt must have hose, no jeans except on Fridays, etc. When I was in 7th-9th grades, the school I attended had a dress code - females were not allowed to wear pants of any kind except on Friday game days or if the temperature got below a certain amount in the winter. Somehow, I managed to survive.

The company I work for now has a very "relaxed" dress code, to say the least. Supposedly, spagetti straps are not allowed, unless they're covered by another top. We hire many, many recent college graduates, and unfortunately there are quite a few who don't quite understand the concept of no spagetti straps or even feel it's absolutely necessary to wear a brassiere when they show up to work. :rolleyes:

My philosphy for the department I used to supervise was if you were constantly have to pull it down/up, then it didn't belong in the workplace. Every person I interviewed was told that.

come on lhpm, you left something out of your current dress code. didn't one of the higher ups mention something else you need to wear :p :D

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by HighSchool Fan
come on lhpm, you left something out of your current dress code. didn't one of the higher ups mention something else you need to wear :p :D

I'm pretty sure that's what he meant. If not, then :eek: :eek: !

[Hannibal]

Originally posted by BullFrog Dad
Not at all. It's your right to choose this company to be your employer and source of income. Public school is mandatory with private school/home school/truancy being the only options. I bet if these Pro-Uniform Dress Code posters had to do it when they were in school they would be singing a different tune. You didn't and you all turned out to be fine citizens.

True, it is my right to choose what employer I work for. It is also your right to choose where to live. If the school madates that there should be a "uniform dress" and you don't like it, you have the right to move your child to another district. Of course, you may have to pay a fee for not living in the district, but your rights won't be "violated".

If your child is a part of an athletic team, does he/she wear the uniform that he/she is told to wear? If not, I bet that he/she is in trouble quite often or not on the team very long.

[raider red 2000]

they are kids...they dont have rights.

my school as a dress code. red, white, blue shirts. tucked in. no sagging. no back packs. no torn or frayed jeans.

not a big deal. most kids dont complain the ones that do lose the arguement.

it isnt that hard to follow the rules.

if you dont like it too bad. is waht the kids are told. those are the rules. when you are in position to change the rules change them. until them follow the rules or accept the consequences.

the ball is in the kid's court.