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Split Back Veer
06-24-2005, 12:00 AM
22-3a
Silsbee
Jasper
Kirbyville
Shepherd
Cold Springs
Buna


24-3a
West Orange
Bridge City
Hardin Jefferson
Anahuac
Hamshire-Fannett
Orangefield

Thoughts?

Old Tiger
06-24-2005, 12:03 AM
22-3a

AggieJohn
06-24-2005, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by Tiger WR
22-3a
fo sheezy

Astrosdawg07
06-24-2005, 12:19 AM
22

bullfrog_alumni_02
06-24-2005, 12:21 AM
id have to go w/ 22 aswell.

AggieJohn
06-24-2005, 12:28 AM
haha,,,, start a poll someone, haha

bullfrog_alumni_02
06-24-2005, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by AggieJohn
haha,,,, start a poll someone, haha leave the kid alone AJ, hes brand new. he only has 2 posts, he may not know how to do that.

AggieJohn
06-24-2005, 12:31 AM
aw, c'mon, we can't "break him in"

you folks need to know when to have fun, it's summer time

bullfrog_alumni_02
06-24-2005, 12:33 AM
i know how to have fun, but he is new and may not know your only joking w/ him. but while we are in the spirits, would you happen to have a beer handy? i have a few.:D after all it IS summer...:p

AggieJohn
06-24-2005, 12:34 AM
as weird as my posts get, and as mean as they can get sometimes, i don't actually drink

bullfrog_alumni_02
06-24-2005, 12:37 AM
ill havet o remedy that and drink one for me, and another for you. is that by choice or did you have a bad experience when you were younger or what?

AggieJohn
06-24-2005, 12:39 AM
by choice, i say i don't drink, but that's not entirely correct, it's about 96% correct, i have an occasional few, like 2 a year

Old Tiger
06-24-2005, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by AggieJohn
as weird as my posts get, and as mean as they can get sometimes, i don't actually drink Yea right! You have to be an alcoholic! :D

bullfrog_alumni_02
06-24-2005, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by Tiger WR
Yea right! You have to be an alcoholic! :D hes probably a mean drunk, and he lies alot too....:D just messin w/ ya AJ.

bullfrog_alumni_02
06-24-2005, 01:02 AM
oh i forgot too mention about those beers, i will have to drink them tomorrow, its against my personal policy to drink the night before i have to work.

AggieJohn
06-24-2005, 06:38 AM
well glad to see you have morals

GUNHO
06-24-2005, 07:53 AM
Back to the subject.I would say 22 with out a doubt but 24 has the horses.:hand: :D

j_dog
06-24-2005, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by GUNHO
Back to the subject.I would say 22 with out a doubt but 24 has the horses.:hand: :D
do they ever! :D the birds also. ;)

RBARKER
06-24-2005, 09:11 AM
I would say 23-3a :D

GUNHO
06-24-2005, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by j_dog
do they ever! :D the birds also. ;)

Yeah, and we got bobcats,panthers,longhorns,but thank goodness we don't have none of them dogs.;)

j_dog
06-24-2005, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by GUNHO
.....,but thank goodness we don't have none of them dogs.;)
know what you mean. those dogs can be so nasty! :D

BHBrave08
06-24-2005, 12:03 PM
22-3A

West Orange is a harder team than all of the others in both districts but its the only really good team in its district. 22 has 3 good teams.

Split Back Veer
06-24-2005, 12:46 PM
I look for 22-3a to have the same outcome as last year this season considering standings, except i don't think kirbyville will beat jasper this year. However, i do think silsbee will come out on top again.

Tiger90
06-24-2005, 01:13 PM
Silsbee could place third in district and still face Palestine in round one. Kinda uneventful being the big school of the district. :tongue: Looks like a week 10 showdown once again this year. I'll be anxious to see what records the Tigers and Dogs have at that point. Hope Silsbee can replace Doss #3. Kirbyville won't be what they were last season.

JHS_c/o_06'
06-24-2005, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by BHBrave08

West Orange is a harder team than all of the others in both districts

Not to take anything away from west orange, cause we will both come to play on the 28th (i think its the 28th), but you havent had the privilage of playing Jasper yet....

BHBrave08
06-24-2005, 02:00 PM
Your right. I wasn't thinking about West Orange now I was thinking about them when they were good. Jasper is much better than West Orange because West Orange was beat by Huffman last year. lol. Huffman shouldn't even be able to be in the same sentence as the old West Orange, but now they are both terrible. Jasper is much better.

j_dog
06-24-2005, 03:00 PM
There were several of us who thought WOS would be the WOS of old last year because Coach T was back there. But he evidently did not have enough time to whip them into shape. This time around, he has had a year of offseason workouts. Everyone, INCLUDING Jasper, had better step it up several notches if they don't want to be thoroughly beaten by the Mustangs. Anyone who thinks otherwise just does not know about Coach T.

GUNHO
06-24-2005, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by BHBrave08
Your right. I wasn't thinking about West Orange now I was thinking about them when they were good. Jasper is much better than West Orange because West Orange was beat by Huffman last year. lol. Huffman shouldn't even be able to be in the same sentence as the old West Orange, but now they are both terrible. Jasper is much better.

YAWN

GUNHO
06-24-2005, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by JHS_c/o_06'
Not to take anything away from west orange, cause we will both come to play on the 28th (i think its the 28th), but you havent had the privilage of playing Jasper yet....

The 26th.The 28th on Sunday.

JHS_c/o_06'
06-24-2005, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by GUNHO
The 26th.The 28th on Sunday.


My bad....there is a concert im going to on the 28th...

WOS92
06-24-2005, 05:35 PM
LOL!
Yeah we've really gone downhill!! Hope to see ya! :D

wildkat0507
06-24-2005, 11:35 PM
22 all the way baby!!!!!

p.s. bulldogs are my friends........

AggiesAreWe
06-25-2005, 08:24 AM
Top to bottom, 22-3A is better, in just about all sports, but football for sure. Silsbee will win district again, with Jasper second, Kirbyville third.

WOS1
06-25-2005, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by BHBrave08
but now they are both terrible. Jasper is much better.

I sooooooo much hope that BH gets to see how terrible we are....

WOS92
06-25-2005, 09:39 AM
Huh? After one good year, Silsbee is the best team out of both districts? Districts that include WO-S and Jasper? Ummm... No. I know you had a strong year last year in 3A, but that was preceded by years and years of being the absolute doormat of our 4A district - which included Lumberton, Vidor and mlc. Jasper should handle that district this year.

bullfrog_alumni_02
06-25-2005, 03:20 PM
you know its always interesting to see rivalries like this...wo-s and jasper i mean. they hate each other as most rivalries do, but a wo-s poster is defending his rival. i know what he is saying will have a good probability of becoming reality, but for the most part a school only has a rivalry w/ someone on almost the same level as them, but its not limited to that. i guess its wo-s protecting its own so to speak. because if jasper and wo-s play on a round-about the same level, then they dont want silsbee to come in all huffy-puffy and think they can walk on everybody. IMHO of course.

WOS1
06-25-2005, 04:39 PM
You're absolutely correct. You can't go from 0-10 to 10-1 in one season and think you're in a league with Jasper and WO-S. Silsbee still has to prove they can be consistent.

WOS92
06-25-2005, 04:52 PM
Silsbee had a great year last year, but did not compete on a high level for several years in their 4A district. They finished at or near the bottom of an eight-team district until dropping. During that same period in the same district, WO-S went 8-2, 8-2 5-5 and 15-1. Jasper obviously was prospering in 3A.

Silsbee was 0-10 in 2003, 1-9 in 2002, 6-5 in 2001 and 4-6 in 2000. That's a total of 11-30 over four years. Jasper's last year in 4a (2001), they were 12-2.

This has nothing to do with keeping anyone from matching WO-S and Jasper. I just think one year is not enough to crown a team "the best" out of two districts - each with a traditional powerhouse.

AggiesAreWe
06-25-2005, 04:55 PM
Years and years of being the doormat????? The last 2 years in that 4A district we were at the bottom, but that's it. If you check the records, Silsbee made the playoffs 3 of the last 6 years they were in 4A. They made the regional finals, losing to eventual state runner-up LaMarque 20-17, in 1998( that year beating then #1 ranked WOS in the first round). In '99, lost to eventual state runner-up PNG in first round 17-14, and in 2001, lost in first round to Lincoln, 28-18. Those last 2 years in 4A was tough because of a combination of loss of enrollment and participation. Silsbee's numbers dropped dramatically those last 3 years because of the closing of our hospital and a mill. We now feel like we are on equal ground, if not more on our side. You are right about the one year, but I know what we have coming up, and it's a good start. Winning breeds confidence and that's what the Tigers are building, confidence.

WOS1
06-25-2005, 05:00 PM
That's true, it's definitely a start.

I'll give you some more food for thought as well, I've got a nasty feeling that the next go around the UIL is going to put all three in the same district.

AggiesAreWe
06-25-2005, 05:04 PM
By the way, I don't see any post stating that Silsbee is the best team in both districts. I posted that Silsbee would win district 22-3A based on what I know what teams have coming back. By winning district doesn't mean that Silsbee would beat WOS. Me saying that 22-3A was better was taking in consideration of every team in each district, that simple.

SilsbeeD
06-25-2005, 05:05 PM
Since the McGallion brothers have been at silsbee, they have completely turned that program around going to the playoffs 4 out of 7 years there, of course they had a couple of bad seasons in 02 and 03 but every team goes through a phase, especially if you don't have the athletes which they didn't in those seasons, i assure you silsbee will have another GREAT season with the athletes they have coming back.

WOS92
06-25-2005, 05:36 PM
Silsbee has been very inconsistent, but I agree that last year was outstanding. Two of those playoff years, though, were with regular season records of .500 or lower, weren't they?

I have nothing against Silsbee, but in assessing that district, I'd have to go with the team that has won consistently - Jasper. Clearly, trends can be turned around, but I'm not sold yet - not with Jasper in that district.

WOS1
06-25-2005, 06:01 PM
Back to the original topic, I must agree, from top to bottom it's 22. You can't really argue with 10 total playoff games vs 3.

Tiger90
06-26-2005, 12:10 AM
Since we are talking these 2 districts. Predict the team records after week 10 for the power teams of each district.

AggiesAreWe
06-26-2005, 05:32 PM
Predictions??? Okay, after regular season is over, these are the records for Silsbee, Jasper, and WOS.


Silsbee 10-0
Jasper 8-2
WOS 9-1

JHS_c/o_06'
06-26-2005, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by AggiesAreWe
Years and years of being the doormat????? The last 2 years in that 4A district we were at the bottom, but that's it. If you check the records, Silsbee made the playoffs 3 of the last 6 years they were in 4A. They made the regional finals, losing to eventual state runner-up LaMarque 20-17, in 1998( that year beating then #1 ranked WOS in the first round). In '99, lost to eventual state runner-up PNG in first round 17-14, and in 2001, lost in first round to Lincoln, 28-18. Those last 2 years in 4A was tough because of a combination of loss of enrollment and participation.

if you INSIST...on bringing up the past.....allow me to do the same.....your first and second round playoff seasons dont compare to our 1 4a quarterfinal and 3 consecutive 3a semifinal appearances...one of those advancing to state. Your one dominant year in 3a doesnt count (yet...see how this season unfolds).....however....our last 4 dominant years do.

lepfan
06-26-2005, 05:56 PM
JHS '06 --- Do you all have a new coach that came from LG?

Tiger90
06-26-2005, 06:01 PM
Word is Silsbee may be trying a freshman at rb. He is supposed to be the fastest athlete in the system. Last year's starter is still available as well. Biggest hole has to be at wr. Doss was a freak and would just spiderman balls out of the air. We're gonna miss his big play ability.

WOS92
06-26-2005, 06:08 PM
WO-S 9-1
Jasper 9-1
Who does Silsbee play in pre-district? If there are no heavy hitters, I'll go 8-2.

Cat22
06-26-2005, 07:16 PM
You heard it here first. Orangefield will walk through 24-3A this year and will start their playoff run 10-0. I would be surprised if anyone in district scores on them. Be afraid of the Bobcats. :D

AggieJohn
06-26-2005, 07:57 PM
i remember going 10-0 one year

bullfrog_alumni_02
06-26-2005, 08:25 PM
yea, me too. its such a wonderful feeling and even greater accomplishment. as for orangefield going 10-0 throughout the regular season, i dont know. i can assure you that you will be scored on during district play though. good luck anyway.

WOS92
06-26-2005, 08:33 PM
I'm from WO-S, so any talk of 10-0 would be cockiness. Orangefield has a shot this year.

Bobkat
06-26-2005, 10:12 PM
Cat22 said it all...we're for real this year. He's going to far about not being scored on though...we'll probably give up 10 or 12 points in district play but that's it. Rumor is the kids have really worked hard this summer and it's paying off. Our tailback has been clocked @ 5.20 in the forty this summer and that's not all. Our line will average 5'8" and 170 pounds, but don't let that size fool ya there buddy. They're gonna be pretty darn quick too. I don't want to give to much away on here so that's all I'll talk about. But everyone should be ware of the Bobcats this season...they're on the PROWL!!!

WOS92
06-26-2005, 10:20 PM
Should be a fun year! Of course, WO-S will struggle to even win a game or, for that matter, gain a yard or stop a team from scoring on any given play.

Is that better? :D

LH Panther Mom
06-26-2005, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by WOS92
Should be a fun year! Of course, WO-S will struggle to even win a game or, for that matter, gain a yard or stop a team from scoring on any given play.

Is that better? :D

LOL! Not better, but funnier. :D ;)

Hupernikomen
06-26-2005, 10:21 PM
Jasper will start off the year struggling with a few spots to fill but by the time district rolls around we will be were we need to be. Everyone in recent years talks about how big a rivlary Jasper/WO-S is, but let's not forget that the Jasper/Silsbee rivalry goes way back. Just not near as noteworthy because it hasn't always pitted two state contenders against each other the way WO-S and Jasper has. Honestly Jasper and WO-S has been a threat to win it all nearly every year for the last 15 plus years (Jasper and WO-S both having a few bad years in there) while Silsbee really hasn't been given the recognition that Jasper and WO-S gets they always play Jasper very tough. I really think Silsbee is on the up swing now that they are playing people their own size and smaller instead of twice as large. It is so hard to compete year in and year out against the likes of Nederland, PNG and Ozen (not to mention WO-S).

And I sure hope Silsbee, WO-S and Jasper are put in the same district again.

WOS92
06-26-2005, 10:27 PM
You're talking about a lot of driving... :eek:

WOS1
06-26-2005, 10:28 PM
Don't forget that Silsbee Sophomore class that has been undefeated since they were in the 7th grade but lost to WO-S their 8th and 9th grade years.:thinking:

AggieJohn
06-26-2005, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by WOS1
Don't forget that Silsbee Sophomore class that has been undefeated since they were in the 7th grade but lost to WO-S their 8th and 9th grade years.:thinking:

for classy posts please do a search for WOS1

WOS92
06-26-2005, 11:38 PM
Nothin' classier than sayin' someone ain't got no class!

God forgive me for my grammar in that sentence. It was parody.

AggieJohn
06-26-2005, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by WOS92
Nothin' classier than sayin' someone ain't got no class!

God forgive me for my grammar in that sentence. It was parody.

forgiven

Tiger90
06-26-2005, 11:41 PM
Silsbee's weak points will be this past years 9th and 8th grade. There are a few great kids but as a whole they are average. I honestly think Silsbee could start a little slow with having to get a new qb going. They should finish 8-2 if they struggle a bit. Confidence is key. Winning last year was a major uplift after 2 down years although in those down years they always seemed to be there till the last 5 minutes. WOS has always had the Tiger's number till the playoffs then it became a good game. I was always against the dogs as well till this last year. I really began to like them. To me it all changed with Kirbyville. They had a very arrogant and obnoxious flair about them. To the point where some (note- not all) fans constantly mouthed about their victory over Jasper. Their entrance to Tiger stadium as well as their coach's behavior left a very bad impression on most fans. It is amazing how one game between these 2 teams in probably decades and all of a sudden Kirbyville is a hot rivalry to a degree. Week 10 should decide the district championship as it should.

WOS1
06-26-2005, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by AggieJohn
for classy posts please do a search for WOS1

... for related links see "AggieJohn".

LH Panther Mom
06-26-2005, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by WOS1
... for related links see "AggieJohn".

:eek: :eek:

WOS92
06-26-2005, 11:58 PM
Ouch!

j_dog
06-27-2005, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by Tiger90
.... To the point where some (note- not all) fans constantly mouthed about their victory over Jasper. ....
I don't know why they got so excited about that! Lots of teams have beaten Jasper over the years! Including Silsbee and WOS and Newton and .....(fill in the blanks)............. :D

Heck, they may even do it again this year! :eek: Winning a football game is NOT the most important thing in the world. It just ALMOST is. :D

WOS92
06-27-2005, 12:06 AM
God yeah... Beating Jasper is old hat around here...



Kidding, of course. I'll be happy to escape "the Alamo" this year. ;)

AggiesAreWe
06-27-2005, 06:56 PM
I checked out the all district teams for 22-3A from last season and this is what returns. For Jasper, 3 all district players return, Kirbyville 4, and Silsbee 8. Silsbee's JV defeated Jasper's JV by 2 td's, and beat Kirbyville's JV by 4 td's. With that said, I like Silsbee's chances this year to repeat as champs.

WOS92
06-27-2005, 07:04 PM
Sounds like a lot of talent coming back. I still have to pick Jasper.

exbccards76'smom
06-27-2005, 08:49 PM
bridge city will be breaking in one offensive lineman for sure. We need a little weight on the front lline

West22
06-27-2005, 09:07 PM
I think West Orange is ready for title run .

JHS_c/o_06'
06-27-2005, 10:23 PM
some of this stuff i see on here.....i start to write a reply....then i realize....whats the point in arguing.....its really pointless.

SilsbeeD
06-28-2005, 05:24 AM
duh^ lol :)

j_dog
06-28-2005, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by JHS_c/o_06'
some of this stuff i see on here.....i start to write a reply....then i realize....whats the point in arguing.....its really pointless.
So very true! The best way is to settle it on the playing field. :) Even then, some will still argue about wuda, cuda, shuda. :rolleyes:

AggiesAreWe
06-28-2005, 07:30 PM
I couldn't agree with you more, j dog. All of this is just mere talk, including what I post on here. When you're talking about 16, 17, and 18 year old kids, it's just down right hard to predict anything. That's why they play the games, but it's still fun to talk about it.

Tiger90
06-28-2005, 11:29 PM
Heard Silsbee may not have last year's rb on the squad this year.