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Matthew328
01-01-2004, 05:20 PM
Ok people I have been working on this for 2 weeks...my own realignment...and here is how I got the #'s...for the schools that I have ADM numbers from October I used those...other schools I had to be more creative..I went to this site which had enrollment numbers for 2002-2003...

http://www.tea.state.tx.us/perfreport/aeis/2003/campus.srch.html

then for this years numbers I took the 9th, 10th and 11th grade classes...and added those numbers to the 8th grae class (if the school had a set feeder school) most multiple school districts have a variety of feeder schools thus making it difficult..for those schools I took the average of the 3 retruning classes and added it to the sum of the 3 classes to get an enrollment number...confusing? yes..LOL and it isn't an exact science at all but it was fun doing the research and doing the realignment..

Class 5A 1883 and up
Class 4A 854-1882
Class 3A 354-853

Let me tell you...Class 3A was VERY tough to realign...there just aren't enough schools to go around..thus in 3A there are quite a few 5 team districts...so give me some feedback and let me know what you think..and heck try and do a realignment yourself I'd love to see some other ideas tossed around!

jason
01-01-2004, 06:22 PM
where is the actual reallignment with team, districts and regions??? is it in the link? maybe i just dont see it...

kaorder1999
01-01-2004, 06:37 PM
jason:
where is the actual reallignment with team, districts and regions??? is it in the link? maybe i just dont see it...be patient...hehe

VWG
01-01-2004, 09:09 PM
Very sound in your research. Bravo!

I think that you should submit your plan to the UIL. Who knows.. maybe the powers that be might take a look at it, but I still think that there is a lot of behind the scenes politics that we don't see.

vet93
01-01-2004, 10:52 PM
Excellent job Matt...I toyed with the numbers using last realignments figures and came up with similar numbers. I had the same problem that you did. To try and get close to a 2:1 ratio is almost impossible because there are just not enough teams in that enrollment range. I think that your numbers would be just about as fair as you can get. Interestingly...in my area using those numbers both Bangs and Jim Ned would move to 3a and Ballinger would move to 2a.

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therealbulldogs
01-02-2004, 12:03 AM
Matthew328,
How come you still have Bandera in 3A? I used your calculations as I understood it and I came up with an enrollment of 916. I probably did it wrong but I'm just curious.

vet93
01-02-2004, 02:31 PM
Matt...Here is the latest revised set of numbers that I came up with in december using the numbers from last realignment...We were pretty close.

5A: &gt;1845 236 teams
4A: 850 to 1844 222 teams 2.17 ratio
3A: 370 to 849 182 teams 2.29 ratio
2A: 185 to 369 215 teams 1.99 ratio
1A: &lt;185 309 teams

Old Cardinal
01-02-2004, 07:55 PM
It looks to me----
4A 790-1844
3A 320-789
2A 160-319
1A &lt;159
That kind of evens out each Classification with about equal teams....That would reduce the enrollment spread in 3A down to 470, that's a much more acceptable number.

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sahen
01-02-2004, 11:31 PM
these numbers can be effected also cause some teams will play up no matter what their size....for instance some schools play w/ the 5a's even though they r 4a size...that can effect the alignment....just a thought

j_dog
01-03-2004, 01:09 AM
What I don't like about your alignments: You put Jasper back into 4a. I don't mind Jasper PLAYING 4a, but there is no equivalent of 3aDownLow for 4a! :( You all have done such a great job here, that I don't want Jasper to have to leave! :( I hope your parameters are wrong. :)

vet93
01-03-2004, 09:26 AM
Old Card...how many schools does this leave for 1a/6man? I hope that you are slightly wrong on the bottom end of 3a...Ballinger turned in 329 and using your numbers, would end up one of the smallest 3a schools again :(


Old Cardinal:
It looks to me----
4A 790-1844
3A 320-789
2A 160-319
1A &lt;159
That kind of evens out each Classification with about equal teams....That would reduce the enrollment spread in 3A down to 470, that's a much more acceptable number.

VWG
01-03-2004, 10:59 AM
Personally, I would really like to see 3A go from around the 340 range to no more than 825.
This would leave the ratio at just under 2.5, which I think is very manageable, especially with the two tier playoff.
I would think that the most difficult decisions for the UIL staff remains in West Texas. There are too many towns out there that are slowly losing people, whether it be factories closing, or an overall downturn in the cities economy. Be it from the oil/gas or agriculture side.
East Texas and other areas that are densely populated have it easier when it comes to athletic budgets. They can have all of their district games within a 45 to 75 mile bus ride, and that travel cost savings goes right back into the school. On the other hand, in West Texas and the flip flopping of schools and district alignments, you have some schools travelling over 2 hours just to get to a district game. I know when Breckenridge got thrown in with Childress their overall travel budget went through the roof.

Old Cardinal
01-03-2004, 02:24 PM
To Vet 73 That classification would approximate 240 schools in 4A,3A and 2A. That would leave 1A down around 275(schools with football), if my search is close to correct. I certainly understand Ballinger's situation, I have been there and it is no fun to be among the smallest.....That drop down in enrollment would help those rural schools that struggle to keep football. I had a friend that I played football with in HS; for many years he Coached at Chester, a very small school. He said he spend most of his time trying to talk some ole farmer into letting his boys play football in the fall, even though it was harvest time.

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Buffalo
01-03-2004, 03:45 PM
That moves Wylie to 4A

Haunta Yo
01-04-2004, 02:23 AM
2 to 1 ratio isn't the driving force in realignment...

They'll want between 210 and 225 schools in each divison.

Geography is the next biggest concern. Gotta find a way to fix the East Texas mess with the 4 school 5a district.

2 to 1 ratio is just an after thought.

Old Cardinal
01-04-2004, 12:18 PM
To H.Yo: There are more schools than that to consider; if equally divided 4-A,3-A,2-A and 1-A you have approximately 240 schools per classification! That puts 7 schools per District, in all of those classifications. That's assuming some school like Lufkin-Hudson opt to not have football at all...I am sorry but everyone will just have to travel a little more mileage over the course of the year to play District games; if any fairness on District numbers are considered. That's assuming an equal number of schools divided into each classification....It sure proves that Texas small rural towns are losing students at an increasing rate. It also hints that retired folks are moving to the country: while breadwinners are gravitating to the suburbs and cities.

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Haunta Yo
01-04-2004, 11:22 PM
Now OC-
You know there will only be about 140 1A schools playing football.
5A's the biggest with 230+
4A has 220+
3A has around 210
2A has alomst 220

Look for the gap between smallest and largest to get bigger in 3a. New schools are almost always 4A or 5A. The top ADA of 3A will be more than before and so will 4A. Look for 5A to get under 230 schools and for 3A to reach at least 220.